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    Good job! best medicine for your knees????

    yo fellas,

    after a long and hard single speed ride, and your knees are burning with pain, what do you do to either prevent or heal that pain?

    i either drink, or take asprin. if i had a girlfriend, she could probably take my mind off of my knees.

    serious and retarted replies are encouraged!

    geof

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    Personal time with Mr. Pepee and Mr. Hand.
    Dude, where's my gears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS-Phil
    Personal time with Mr. Pepee and Mr. Hand.
    LMAO.
    I used too have trouble with my knees and left hip. Sometimes after a ride a could hardly walk. I heard about Glucosamine and decided to give it a try. Went down to the health food store and they recomended Glucosamine with MSM (a fruit base that helps absorbtion). 3 months later and my pain is greatly diminished. I still get stiff and sore sometimes but nothing like I used too. This stuff is great.

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    Idea!

    I have not had much knee pain from SS'n (fixed and free). I do make an attempt to spin more than mash (even up hills). But all that aside, and talk to your doctor first, but I have heard that chondroitin and glucosamine supplements help strengthen connective tissue which include tendons, ligaments, and cartilage of the knee.

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    Smile what about before the ride knee creams?

    do you fellas use knee rubs or lotions before the ride? i use a lanolin rub stuff that looks like vasoline to keep the knees warm during the ride. the only drawback is that it collects dead bugs and dirt. kinda gross.

    i just hate having sore knees after long strenuous rides. i like to climb steep stuff. mashing one gear is a way of life.

    i dont know how rubbing one out will make my knees feel better, hmmn.

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    Try popping a few ibuprofen before and after the ride. I have some minor pain/clicking in my left knee and this helps a lot. I just started taking glucosamine, so I'm hoping that helps a little.

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    your riding career is doomed

    Man if you have that kind of knee pain after riding and you're still in your 20s, I would say that your riding career will be short-lived. Knee pain isn't the normal condition for cyclists.
    One thing anyone can do to extend their riding career is to keep their knees covered when the temperature is below about 60 degrees F. Roadies mostly all know this and the smart ones do. But you see dumbass MTBers all the time riding in the 40s even 30s with windbreakers and long finger gloves, wearing shorts. Ask them and they'll say the cold doesn't bother them, etc.
    Well, it's not about how low a temperature you can stand on your legs. It's about keeping the knee joints warm so they work smoothly. Kinda like how you don't start your car that was parked outside overnight when it's zero degrees and then floor it before the oil warms up. Same principle.
    Riding with cold knees won't hurt you right away, it takes time, kinda like cigarette smoking. But if you don't care for your knees in your 20s and 30s, by the time you're 50 or so your riding will likely be limited by your messed up knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffss
    yo fellas,

    after a long and hard single speed ride, and your knees are burning with pain, what do you do to either prevent or heal that pain?

    i either drink, or take asprin. if i had a girlfriend, she could probably take my mind off of my knees.

    serious and retarted replies are encouraged!

    geof
    my dad swears by the glucosamine supplements as helpers for his knees, but he is in his late 60s. not a SSers. cant hurt.

    i have heard many times: DO NOT take advil before/during excersize as its bad for your kidneys. its OK once in a while, but not all the time. ask your doctor.

    as for your knees hurting, check the fit of your bike. try sliding your saddle either forwards or backwards just a bit before a ride and see if that does something. try raising your seat a tiny bit. little adjustments sometimes make a huge difference.

    also, use a lower gear. swallow your pride and speed on the flats. it could save your knees.

    and to prevent rugburn on the knees, i have heard of porn stars using contractors knee pads from home depot during a long day on the job.
    Only boring people get bored.

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    Bike fit

    That could be one problem, or check your crank lenth, maybe it's too long. I mean maybe they are too long. Check these out, they are called Hindu Squats and people swear by them.

    http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/153combat.html

    Maybe a few days rest are in order.

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    not necessarily

    Quote Originally Posted by bulC
    Man if you have that kind of knee pain after riding and you're still in your 20s, I would say that your riding career will be short-lived. Knee pain isn't the normal condition for cyclists.
    i used to have knee pain when i was in my early 20's after hard rides, but now that i'm an old fart (30) i never have knee pain after riding, only after hiking (go figure). back in the day i probably used to sit and push too high of a gear (on a geared bike) but now i probably stand sooner than i used to (thanks to SS) and my knees are always happy.

    i agree that knee pain isn't normal, though. something about his bike fit or the way he's pushing his gear must be wrong. maybe gearing down a tooth ot two would help.
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    keep em warm! I was told this by a physical therpapist. the reason was that knees work better when warm, and are therefore less sucepatble to injury. so, on all but the warmest rides im wearing my knee warmers. why? BAD tendonitis in BOTH knees fromyesrs of swimming and running.

    on topic, but not: anyone had more knee pain after going back to the gearie foe a while or am I just nuts as usual?

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well ahhhh! you make it sound so bad!


    its really not that bad. i get sore from ss riding only when its a 4-5 hour epic and i climb steep hills with geared fools. i guess its just on days where i push myself too much and its cold outside. its not very often that they are sore. i guess i made it sound like i was sore after every ride. i run a 34-18 so that i can climb the steeper bay area trails and push the bike less. ive got 175 xtrs with perfect q-factor. saddle height is fine, i stand up when it gets steep anyway. i make sure not to muscle it too often, spin to win brah. i stretch mucho. i agree with most people to keep knees warm, i use Born protect oil #3 before rides on nasty days. i have only been feeling the pain recently with the cold nor-cal weather. when it warms up (like today and this weekend up to 80 degrees) i dont think i will have to worry so much, my knees will be plenty warm.

    i agree with not taking aspirin before rides, thats just not good. dont do it before giving blood either. it will leave a GIANT painful bruise. not cool.

    i gots me a geared road bike (yeti) so that i can spin to win when i dont feel like ssing.

    its not like i am a 26 year old cripple, please dont make me feel that way

    geoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffss

    its really not that bad. i get sore from ss riding only when its a 4-5 hour epic and i climb )

    its not like i am a 26 year old cripple, please dont make me feel that way

    geoff
    its ok- im a 27 year old cripple wth knee issues, so take that as you want it (ok- histry- been a competitive swimmer for 21 years- yes, that long- so you might be able to see where the tendonitis in the knees comes from)

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    No help here on how to cure knee pain, but I've been there as a teen/twenty-something cross-country runner. I turned down knee surgery and turned on to cycling and have had no knee pain since. I did spend a lot of years riding, spinning etc before I took up single speeds. Some things to consider:

    Keep them knees warm. At temps from the low 60's on down, use some kind of knee warmer/tight

    Flexibility - stretch, stretch, stretch

    If you are young and just took up cycling fairly recently and jumped right into single speeding, you might want to alternate rides with a geared bike and spin in some low gears. That will help with flexibility and strenghth in the knees.

    If there is pain, don't think you can grunt it out and ride through it. Pain is your body telling you something's wrong. Listen to your bod.

    I'm now 40 something and have had 20+ years of pain free knees through cycling.

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    i got me a friend at last...

    he don't drink or steal or cheat or lie / his name is codeine, and he's the nicest thing i've seen / and together we're gonna wait around to die...
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    Brrrrrr.

    Ice fo' me!

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    Serious reply..

    ...ice your knees. I use ice after almost every ride (have issue w/left one). If the knees feel warm or irritated, ice will quell that irritation. HOWEVER, keeping the knees warm is crucial while riding, and I've got warmers on until it hits the mid 70's at least. I also use some sort of warming potion almost always.

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    Potions

    I definitely have knee issues. Had surgery a year ago and didn't really do the rehab work at the level I needed to. Since i started SSing I've had pain just bellow (not underneath) my patella in both knees.

    Anyway, what warming potions do people recommend?

    I've been riding my road bike on flats more so I can spin at a high cadence. Ice after rides too. I have only been wearing warmers on cold days but will start wearing them more now. Trying to stand on almost all inclines on my SS. A guy at the LBS suggested staying off my SS until I get me knees in shape.

    I'm starting an exercise program from the book The Knee Crisis Handbook. It's got some good programs that can target specific knee problems such as IT band and patellafemoral pain.

    surfpriest

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    Used Freddy's Choice Start Oil formula from excelsports.com. If you try it, DO NOT wash your warmers w/anything light colored, b/c the potion is oil based and has an orangeish tint to it that will stain light colored clothing.

    Flexall and stuff of the same ilk available at any drug store has worked just as well. I typically put the stuff on at least 15 minutes before going out the door.

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    Stretch!!!

    I had knee issues when I started SSing. I have since gotten on a very strict pre & post ride stretching routine. It has made ALL the difference in the world.

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    Stretch?

    So what kind of stretching do you do that has helped with the knees? Anything knee specific would be great to know.

    I didn't know about potential issues with ibuprofen before exercise. I'll be sure to ask the doc about that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47
    So what kind of stretching do you do that has helped with the knees? Anything knee specific would be great to know.

    I didn't know about potential issues with ibuprofen before exercise. I'll be sure to ask the doc about that...

    Yes - anyone who has a knee specific stretch, please describe. I to all the typical major muscle stretches, but would like to know if y'all have a specific knee stretch.

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