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    Bash Guard or No Bash Guard

    Just wondering how many run a bash guard compared to those that do not, and the reason why? As for me, I do, seen the scars on a few legs from chainrings

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    I don't run one. There aren't many obstacles around here that create an issue with a little 32t up front.
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    I have a 34T ring with a bash guard for now. When I jump up to a 36T next mid summer, the cranks I'm getting wont be able to accept one. I'm probably not going to miss it here in S.E. Michigan.

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    Too many rocks while running 4-bolt. I run one so I don't have to walk back to the car.

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    Lots of log crossings where I ride that would contact chain, to reduce the risk of damage I run a bash.

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    Run over a lot of logs and no bash guard on 34t... no issues.

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    I run one and on top of everything already said, I like the clean look it gives my bike, honestly.

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    That's funny jm, I have one and aesthetically I like it more without but practically I like having it because of all the rocks and log-overs in my area. I don't often hit my bash guard on stuff but the few times I have I was glad it was there.
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    with proper technique you don't need one.

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    i always at least try to use proper technique i haven't had one in years. even with some infrequent contact between my rings and various logs and rocks i have never knocked a ring out of round.

    unless you ride some freaky gnar gnar i see them as a fashion accessory. run one if you want but if your using it all the time and really slamming it into stuff i'd bet your technique could use some improving.

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    Don't run one......don't like the way they look. The teeth don't protrude through the ring, so it's not s safety issue. Don't need it for getting up and over obstacles.
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    My chainline is better without one. Plus the mounting bolts that came with the new ring I got wouldn't accommodate, and the crank I was moving the old ring onto needed longer bolts.

    Currently have one sitting in my garage, not sure if I'll be putting it on or not now.

    I ride over quite a few logs, and I mash the ring on some of the bigger ones occasionally but never had a problem resulting from it (knock on wood)
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    We have a lot of rocks and logs here in New England. I know a lot SS riders and the ones who don't run them eventually walk there bike out of the woods at some point. I've seen quite a few bent chainrings. I have been riding SS for 6 years and wouldn't run w/o a bashguard. Spot brand makes a nice, lightweight one for cheap $$ that works great.

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    I use a Rotor Q-Ring, I think I'd have to make it myself if I wanted one to work..and it would inevitably look really clunky with the shape. Unless I just ran one that was a bit bigger than the chainring. Not a lot of log rollovers where I live, but with higher BB, and smaller chainring on my SS..its never really a problem and I usually pop my back end over stuff anyways. I don't think its really needed for that application.

    My Tallboy is a different story with a 38T chainring and low BB, but again I use a Rotor ring...so not really something that's available.
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    I don't run one and we have tons of large rocks and downed trees.

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    I run a BBG bash just because it's cheaper than a chain ring if I ever do slam one into something. FWIW I bent a cheap Spot bash at one time here on something. I got home, and there it was. Apparently it was just part of riding, not a huge hit or anything. The BBG would never bend like that thing did.

    As for seeing scars on a few legs from chainrings, if you think that's bad try some flat pedals. Or for that matter, whack your shinbone on a SPD just right. I don't see the chainring being the major risk down in that area of the bike.
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    I run a bash as well. Mine's heavy. Anyone got a good suggestion on a lightweight model?

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    I run a bash because it came with the crankset. It also looks better. Yeah, vanity...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    As for seeing scars on a few legs from chainrings, if you think that's bad try some flat pedals. Or for that matter, whack your shinbone on a SPD just right. I don't see the chainring being the major risk down in that area of the bike.
    The bad scars are generally from an incident in which you're riding in the small/middle ring and your leg gets intimate with the teeth of the big ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stremf View Post
    I run a bash as well. Mine's heavy. Anyone got a good suggestion on a lightweight model?
    http://bbgbashguard.com

    They're light enough, they're strong enough, and doggone it, I just like them!

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    Years ago, everyone used a "Rockring". Now most logs seem to have twigs ect,, in front and on back side of them. Not really needed anymore. Maybe i need to find some rougher trails. I'm better now and I also place front wheel on top of log and then push front/lift rear over. Smaller logs, get hooped over. I only have one on to keep my Chain from dropping off that side. In any event, enjoy your next ride.

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    My SS came with a flimsy, plastic bash guard that will probably break first time it hits anything. I keep it on because I'm too lazy to remove it.

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    I run one because it looks good on my cranks. It's also usefull for getting over downed trees and such without unclipping.
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    Have always had one but no more.

    Modified xtr 960 on my ss = nobody makes one, and I have been fine. I'm a bit more careful about stuff, as the bashguard on my other bikes have definitely taken some hits.

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    SlowPoke, wondering if that's something you can do yourself. Not sure if places like BBG in the link above would send you just a blank guard with no holes. Then you can drill it out to 102bcd. Shouldn't make a difference if you're not 100% centered as its just the bash guard.

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    i like the clean aesthetic of no bash ring (chain guard). pure simplicity.

    you may need shorter (bmx) chainring bolts without a chain guard..

    and without a chain guard, you have the option of mounting your chainring inboard or outboard..

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    My bike came with one when I bought it. I'm not a weight fanatic, like the way it looks, and have bashed it a few times, so I won't be taking it off.

    If I was building a bike I would get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokePete View Post
    Have always had one but no more.

    Modified xtr 960 on my ss = nobody makes one, and I have been fine. I'm a bit more careful about stuff, as the bashguard on my other bikes have definitely taken some hits.

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    I don't use a bashguard on my singlespeeds (or my IGH bike either) as around here it's more trouble than its worth because the gap between the bash and the chainring gets quickly filled up with pine needles and assorted other crap and it's a pain to clean out. Anyway, I've never had any chainring damage from the odd log or rock contact. Mind you, Middleburn Uno chainrings (and the HBC versions too) aren't easily bent nor can you run a bashring anyway.

    I do use a bashring on my 2x9 FS bike though, as there are times when the chain is on the granny ring with nothing to protect the 32T chainring. Still gets jammed full of trail debris though....

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    I have one on all my bikes. I would not ride without it, but I do like to see how big of a tree I can ride over. There is a nice 3 1/2 footer right now I have been playing on and a 4 ft rock I have found to ride up like a ledge. All the technique in the world will not let you make this stuff without hitting the bash for the most part.

    Anything under 2 ft normally I do not hit it unless I make a mistake, then I am glad it is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Whisperer View Post
    Blackspire makes a M960 guard

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    Yeah, but my cranks are mnodified and don't have that third position.



    Not sure I would want to lose the clearance with a bash in the big ring position anyway. Before getting these cranks, I always ran shimano cranks with the bash just covering the middle ring.

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    IMO,
    If you are slamming your BB/chain ring area into obstacles, you are not doing it right.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Hp_jDNN6XfQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Im surprised more people dont use the first two techniques. They are easy as heck and you can clear almost anything up to 2 feet.

    The bunnyhop is nice too, but can only be done at speed. These first two can be done really slow while climbing or riding technical stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinning Lizard View Post
    I have one on all my bikes.
    I like the look, it protects, chain, chainring, my leg....blah blah blah...I like it and endorse it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubdryver View Post
    I use a Rotor Q-Ring, I think I'd have to make it myself if I wanted one to work..and it would inevitably look really clunky with the shape. Unless I just ran one that was a bit bigger than the chainring. Not a lot of log rollovers where I live, but with higher BB, and smaller chainring on my SS..its never really a problem and I usually pop my back end over stuff anyways. I don't think its really needed for that application.

    My Tallboy is a different story with a 38T chainring and low BB, but again I use a Rotor ring...so not really something that's available.
    I used at 36t BBG with my Rotor Ring and it covered it quite well. Doesn't sound like you need one at all though.

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    I run bbg and it's been fine. I do like the looks without it better but then again, it has taken a few good hits by now. More or less makes me more relaxed not having to think about it while going over logs and rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    i like the clean aesthetic of no bash ring (chain guard). pure simplicity.
    That's funny, I feel the complete opposite. I tried no bash guard on my SS for a while and I thought it looked silly. I'll take the added weight of my Salsa Toothfairy over the lighter no-bashguard bike any day. FWIW I rarely hit it because with good technique you should always miss your chainrings (as max-a-mil pointed out); this is especially true on a SS where I'm on a 36t ring.
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    if you're not hitting rocks and logs, we're mainly talking aesthetics.

    historically, some bikes had a chain guard to keep your pants out of the moving parts.

    silly? some people think a bike looks silly without a derailleur, but it never occurred to me to put one on my SS for appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    http://bbgbashguard.com

    They're light enough, they're strong enough, and doggone it, I just like them!

    Just ordered two BBG. Thanks for the link, Stuart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    IMO,
    If you are slamming your BB/chain ring area into obstacles, you are not doing it right.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Hp_jDNN6XfQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Im surprised more people dont use the first two techniques. They are easy as heck and you can clear almost anything up to 2 feet.

    The bunnyhop is nice too, but can only be done at speed. These first two can be done really slow while climbing or riding technical stuff.
    Good video. I think it just depends on your terrain. There are some trails here that are too rocky/gnarly to be hopping over anything. Unless you start doing some trials stuff, which I'm incapable of doing.

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    Sounds everybody is in complete agreement:
    If you like the way it looks, run one.
    If you don't, don't.

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    double post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by miwuksurfer View Post
    Sounds everybody is in complete agreement:
    If you like the way it looks, run one.
    If you don't, don't.
    oddly, you're right.

    form over function on the SS board.

    who would have guessed?

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    I have one on my current bike. I don't want to run it but I am too cheap to go buy the shorter chainring bolts and take it off. That money can be spent on a sixer!
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    No bash guard as of now. I do have one to put on should I decide to. Not sure if I like the look better with or without one.

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