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    Answer Carbon Rigid Fork - 26" production

    I've seen a lot of interest in the Pace Carbon rigid fork. There is a few manufacturers like Marzocchi, Answer (Manitou), and Bomshell than make pretty sweet carbon and aluminum for the BMX 20" and 24" crowd.

    I've emailed them all, with no reply, and don't understand why they wouldn't make a 26" version with disc mounts.

    How sweet would it be to have one of these with a 425-430mm axel crown length?
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    Agreed... that would rock

    I have a friend who works at Manitou. I'll talk to him about it if we can drum up enough support here on the boards (This should be cross posted to the 29er board, as well)
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    corrected for...

    100mm and I would be in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAnMan
    . . .don't understand why they wouldn't make a 26" version with disc mounts.
    I suspect that there is a long way to go from a BMX race fork (seemingly designed for no brakes) to an off-road MTB fork with disc mounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czardonic
    I suspect that there is a long way to go from a BMX race fork (seemingly designed for no brakes) to an off-road MTB fork with disc mounts.
    I dunno the leg on the Scythe fork looks like it has enough torsional strength for a disc brake.



    Then there is the Bombshell fork that already has a CNC aluminum dropout. It should not be hard for their in house machineist to create a drop out with a disc brake tab.




    But what do I know. I am just speculating.

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    Carbon is baad...... hmmkay?

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    light but not super light

    Quote Originally Posted by mordecai
    Carbon is baad...... hmmkay?
    They may look nice, but in the dans catalog, they show the answer fork weight at 26oz for the 20" pro scyhe, the new bombshell is even lighter at 22oz for a 20"pro model. But for comparasion a DK RT race truetemper steel fork (made by brew) weights 27oz for a pro 20" model. And at a cost of $99 bucks it is less then half the price of the answer $229 or the bombshell $239, with a lot more piece of mind included with the steel fork. Is 5oz worth $140 dollars for a fork that won't be as strong, I don't think so

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    PACE does pretty good....

    I have not heard of any problems with the PACE carbon fork (other than it's from England and not easy to get here) and it has disc mounts. If Pace can do it, surely our fellow countrymen engineers at Marzocchi and Answer could figure it out.
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    Not as strong??

    Quote Originally Posted by single1x1
    They may look nice, but in the dans catalog, they show the answer fork weight at 26oz for the 20" pro scyhe, the new bombshell is even lighter at 22oz for a 20"pro model. But for comparasion a DK RT race truetemper steel fork (made by brew) weights 27oz for a pro 20" model. And at a cost of $99 bucks it is less then half the price of the answer $229 or the bombshell $239, with a lot more piece of mind included with the steel fork. Is 5oz worth $140 dollars for a fork that won't be as strong, I don't think so
    You may want to check your metalurgical and materials fact sheet. Carbon can be the strongest tube out there- heck, it is bulletproof in some applications. It is possible to manipulate and lay up carbon in an almost infinite array of arrangements.
    I don't see the problem in creating a 26" and 29" fork (don't forget us bigwheel riders!) with a disc tab. Add material where needed, and as Pace has proven, you can have a bomber, light, great riding fork.
    It will prolly lighten up your wallet as well, but hey... as Keith Bontrager says; "Light, Strong, Cheap... pick any TWO"

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    Maybe I'm just paranoid, but the carbon fork on my Bianchi roadbike scares the sh*t out of me (I can't help but visualize myself lying toothless, bloody and unconcious on the road when I get on the bike - to the point that I am considering springing for a steel fork), I don't think I could ever get past my mental hurdles enough to consider running one on the MTB.

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    You are indeed paranoid.

    Quote Originally Posted by s1ngletrack
    Maybe I'm just paranoid, but the carbon fork on my Bianchi roadbike scares the sh*t out of me (I can't help but visualize myself lying toothless, bloody and unconcious on the road when I get on the bike - to the point that I am considering springing for a steel fork), I don't think I could ever get past my mental hurdles enough to consider running one on the MTB.
    You may as well be worrying about the Bogeyman and Sasquatch hiding under your bed and in your closet, lol!

    You just need to think about this, and your mind should be put at ease; every one of the classics specialists in Europe who rode the Tour of Flanders and Paris-Roubaix were on carbon forks. Do you know what Paris-Roubaix does to equipment (and your body)?!
    Many were on carbon bars, seatposts and also wheels. I have a Bianchi road bike with a carbon fork and seatpost, and regularly descend mountain roads at over 40mph. No worries my friend. I have been riding carbon forks since 1996 with nary a problem and even use a carbon post on one of my hardtail MTBs.
    There's gotta be some proof in the pudding- after all, every mid to high end bike comes with a carbon fork nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGearGuy
    You may as well be worrying about the Bogeyman and Sasquatch hiding under your bed and in your closet, lol!

    You just need to think about this, and your mind should be put at ease; every one of the classics specialists in Europe who rode the Tour of Flanders and Paris-Roubaix were on carbon forks. Do you know what Paris-Roubaix does to equipment (and your body)?!
    Many were on carbon bars, seatposts and also wheels. I have a Bianchi road bike with a carbon fork and seatpost, and regularly descend mountain roads at over 40mph. No worries my friend. I have been riding carbon forks since 1996 with nary a problem and even use a carbon post on one of my hardtail MTBs.
    There's gotta be some proof in the pudding- after all, every mid to high end bike comes with a carbon fork nowadays.

    OGG
    That makes sense - I have thought about these things and they help, but I'm still having trust issues, it'd probably help to put my mind at ease if I removed the fork and inspected it myself, since I bought the bike used.

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    I'm sure it can be done.

    All I am saying is that it would likely require a significant redesign of the fork crown & legs as well as the bonds. At the end of the day it might not be that light and might not sell much at the price it would have to be sold at. So it may not be an obvious choice for Answer to come out with a MTB disc fork just because they already have 20" and 24" BMX race forks.

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    There are already carbon tandem forks with v-brake and disc mounts on them in 700C size and clearance for 45mm width tires.
    I don't post to generate business for myself or make like I'm better than sliced bread

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAnMan
    I've seen a lot of interest in the Pace Carbon rigid fork. There is a few manufacturers like Marzocchi, Answer (Manitou), and Bomshell than make pretty sweet carbon and aluminum for the BMX 20" and 24" crowd.

    I've emailed them all, with no reply, and don't understand why they wouldn't make a 26" version with disc mounts.

    How sweet would it be to have one of these with a 425-430mm axel crown length?


    If those were available in a 26" size with a crown to axel of at least 420mm, I'd be all over it like a fat kid on a bag of smarties. I'd love a Pace fork, but being here in Canada it would set me back at least $600-700 CAD. Way too much for my budget i'm afraid.

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    Might not be...

    ...a big enough market for something like this. Those of us who'd be interested in a rigid carbon fork probably don't represent a large enough return for the investment Answer would have to make for it to become a reality.

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