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    2013 Kona Unit


    Sick raw finish! 180 degrees from the crappy 2012 Duke boys orange.....
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    Looks a bit wonky with the oversized head tube, but I guess that's to help accommodate suspension forks right?

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    Is that zerostack headset really an improvement? What replacement headsets will fit?

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    The only good reason for that headtube is so people can use forks with tapered steerer tubes that they already have. There isn't an actual need for it and all forks are still offered with 1 1/8" steerers anyway. EDIT: I'm not sure about what the actual headtube dia is.

    I agree, it does look silly, and I like my 1 1/8" headtube on my 2012. And I love the orange too, but that raw is equally good looking IMO.

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    I just sent an email to kona asking about the headtube. Is it 1.5, or just zero stack? Can't tell from the site...

    Personally, I think that it is a glaring oversight NOT to have a tapered compatible headtube on any bike these days. All their aluminum bikes have it, why not the steel?

    The raw finish is so badass though....wow.

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    Mmmm, me likey.
    The 70 degree H/A too is quite the change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jave-mtr View Post
    Is that zerostack headset really an improvement? What replacement headsets will fit?
    I would imagine something like this Chris King InSet 1 GripLock Headset 2012 100061762 at CambriaBike.com would work.

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    It will be interesting to see what El Train finds out. Since no actual measurements are given regarding head tube inner diameters, right now it's hard to tell what would fit!

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    i really like the old school decal but the headtube killed it. the frame would be nicer in black, general lee look.
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    Here is what I got: I asked about the headtube, and about the Honzo 142x12 dropouts:

    Hi Lincoln,
    The 142x12 dropouts will be available sometime in the late fall for aftermarket sales. Same setup as the 11-12 Unit/Big Unit. Well have geared and single speed options.

    The Unit headtube is 44mm zero stack. You can purchase an alternative lower cup (which is external, same as the Honzo) to run a tapered fork.
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    This is great! Of course I just yesterday went and bought a 2012 Unit on closeout at my local shop because I am cheap and impatient....but having the tapered fork capability on the '13 frame is so awesome!!! And now that you can get the 142x12 dropouts, you could actually have a bike with modern components. These things just add to the versatility of this bike and put it ahead of other frames in the category (like the Karate Monkey). Kona Unit FTW!

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    44mm head tube gives you the most options.

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    Really, really like the 90's logos on the steel bikes!

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    I assume the Honzo will have the 142x12 rear and not the Unit? Also, any word as to whether the Unit will be sold as a frame-only option? The Kona site shows the Big Unit as frame-only and the Unit as complete. Maybe I just answered my own question.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanik View Post
    There isn't an actual need for it and all forks are still offered with 1 1/8" steerers anyway.
    Um... no. Even if you can find a nice 29er fork now with a straight steerer, good luck finding one in a few years. The world has moved on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansel12 View Post
    I assume the Honzo will have the 142x12 rear and not the Unit? Also, any word as to whether the Unit will be sold as a frame-only option? The Kona site shows the Big Unit as frame-only and the Unit as complete. Maybe I just answered my own question.......
    yeah, the unit has standard qr axle. I just wanted to see for future possibilities. I think 142x12 will become the new standard at some point....I think you can get frame only if you want to. Just ask your dealer. Or go to Bikeman.com. they have 2012s now and will probably have 2013s soon.

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    Pictures of Unit showing off its raw finish (it was posted on Facebook by Kona)






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    She look awesome! I actually prefer my 2012 in duke boys orange over that finish, but to each their own!

    I don't see many "improvements" so to speak, rather just variations - but hell, it's a damn good bike in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy again View Post
    Um... no. Even if you can find a nice 29er fork now with a straight steerer, good luck finding one in a few years. The world has moved on.

    The manufacturers and forums buzz have moved on, I'm still not convinced I *need* a tapered steerer....but that's another argument.


    Hopefully this Unit will successfully answer a lot of the "I want a hardtail 29er and have $1000 to spend" threads...

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Train View Post
    yeah, the unit has standard qr axle. I just wanted to see for future possibilities. I think 142x12 will become the new standard at some point....I think you can get frame only if you want to. Just ask your dealer. Or go to Bikeman.com. they have 2012s now and will probably have 2013s soon.
    Excellent, thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1035 View Post
    I'm still not convinced I *need* a tapered steerer
    Yeah, but you might need it in the future (i.e., it's future proof) - especially considering steel's durability. Besides, 1.125" forks can be retrofitted, so there's no significant downside. I'm happy to keep riding my '11 Unit with 9mm hubs but, if buying from scratch, I'd prefer the '13 for more fork/hub options. I hoped and fully expected Kona to do this for '13.

    Otherwise, I applaud the raw/paint even if I'm not sure it's "me". And I like that Kona replaced the Ignitors with Ikons - besides performance, it should sell more bikes based on parking lot test rides (Ikons are lighter, smoother, and more plush).

    I'm not sure I approve of the slacker headtube angle on what is a rigid bike. One could easily make the argument that Kona is "chasing" the industry this year with 1) the raw finish, 2) oversized headtube, and 3) slacker headtube angle. Personally, I couldn't be happier with the 2011-2012 geometry.

    All that aside, aesthetically I prefer the skinny tubes and traditional headset.
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    Anyone know what the Unit weighs? And has anyone put a carbon fork on one?
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    Anyone know what the Unit weighs? And has anyone put a carbon fork on one?
    Think mine was 27 1/2 lbs bone stock...2011. I had some mad money and ordered a niner carbon fork and bar for it, and eventually a wheelset, and it's down around 23 1/2 now...it does feel more lively slimmed a little, but it rides just fine stock

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    I think that's a kick azz bike! only concern is how the steel will hold up. is it really a raw fame? maybe not a good idea for humid places - like here in the middle of Dixie.

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    I'd imagine it's got a clear powdercoat finish
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Downtube is also slightly bent. More space for crowns of various suspension forks? Stronger bond between downtube and headtube? 120mm forks, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevob View Post
    I'd imagine it's got a clear powdercoat finish
    Ya, it's got clear coat.
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    Has anybody heard some reliable information when we will be seeing these bikes shipped to dealers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I.V.A. View Post
    Downtube is also slightly bent. More space for crowns of various suspension forks? Stronger bond between downtube and headtube? 120mm forks, maybe?
    For '13, the Unit's headtube is shorter and selling with a zero stack headset. Perhaps gives the frame some panache, too, although the bend makes the frame weaker (all things unchanged) as I understand.

    The whole bike costs what a Niner steel frame costs - it's a bargain.
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    have no clue trying to post 5 so I can start a thread sorry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jave-mtr View Post
    Has anybody heard some reliable information when we will be seeing these bikes shipped to dealers?
    My LBS said they get new Units in Sept/Oct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_ben View Post
    Think mine was 27 1/2 lbs bone stock...2011. I had some mad money and ordered a niner carbon fork and bar for it, and eventually a wheelset, and it's down around 23 1/2 now...it does feel more lively slimmed a little, but it rides just fine stock
    I just put on some Stans Archs on mine and am running tubeless Schwalbes. Figure I've dropped at least a pound and a quarter of rotational weight, and it has made a big difference on the climbs. I agree it rode fine stock, but now that I have the new hoops on I'd never go back. They should do a cheapo and a less cheapo set up. Tubeless tires and decent rims kill it.

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    Price?

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    Got the arch rims from Stans direct. They are onsale for 40 bucks now, get it while you can!
    Built them around some fire-eye hubs that my friend is starting distribute in Canada in exchange for some design work. Build was 160 with decent spokes, so in total the wheels cost about 250, and they are great.
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    nice look

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    Quote Originally Posted by I.V.A. View Post
    Downtube is also slightly bent. More space for crowns of various suspension forks? Stronger bond between downtube and headtube? 120mm forks, maybe?
    I thought the bent down tube was there to give you more clearance to jam your foot in there so you can do freestyle tricks!???

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    Bought one, should arrive next week. Will post pics.

    Thinking of WI ENO cranks.

    Thoughts? Better options? Has to be 44t minimum.

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    Head tube angle

    Does anyone know if the head tube angle measurement on Kona's website is for the frame with the P2 fork on it, or with a suspension fork? Kona e-mailed me and said that the frame was designed to run a 100mm fork, but it doesn't make sense to list the HTA for a susp. fork when the frame comes with a lower axle-to-crown rigid fork. ???

    I just ordered one of these (frame only), but now I'm concerned that the already slack HTA on the small (listed as 68.5) will get even more slack when I throw my 100mm fork on it.

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    a question of units

    Quote Originally Posted by cackalacky View Post
    Does anyone know if the head tube angle measurement on Kona's website is for the frame with the P2 fork on it, or with a suspension fork? Kona e-mailed me and said that the frame was designed to run a 100mm fork, but it doesn't make sense to list the HTA for a susp. fork when the frame comes with a lower axle-to-crown rigid fork. ???

    I just ordered one of these (frame only), but now I'm concerned that the already slack HTA on the small (listed as 68.5) will get even more slack when I throw my 100mm fork on it.
    You're right, it doesn't make sense. Kona's website only references the complete bike with P2 fork, so its hard to imagine the geo numbers actually match up to some undisclosed suspension fork of different dimensions, right?

    Kona's website list the 2013 fork's axel-to-crown length as 18.5" (470mm) and NOT ~505mm for a 100mm fork. The 2012 Unit's fork is listed as 19.9" (505mm). And the 2011 is listed as 18.2" (462mm). So who friggin' knows!

    For strict geo numbers, I'd be more likely to trust the website and guess the e-mail was just saying a 100mm "works fine" with the frame (it won't break, geo is in the ball park, etc).
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    Yeah, I think I'm overthinking this. I just sent my question above to Kona support and this is what they e-mailed me:

    Hi, when you get the 100mm fork on and set it up with normal sag you'll get
    pretty well the same geometry as with the stock P2.

    No one's come back and said too slow or floppy yet.

    Happy Trails!


    So I'd say the website references the geo with the rigid fork.
    Going to stop obsessing about this. The Kona I rode yesterday, while it had the rigid fork on it, rode just fine...

    BTW, Ryder1, where do you see the axle to crown length?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cackalacky View Post
    Ryder1, where do you see the axle to crown length?
    The "FL" (fork length) number on the Detailed Specs page is the a-to-c.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jave-mtr View Post
    Has anybody heard some reliable information when we will be seeing these bikes shipped to dealers?
    From my understanding the things are selling out before they've even arrived, which is creating a backlog.

    I'm in Australia and the shop postponed delivery by another week because they're cramming them on crates as fast as possible and still haven't shipped mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cackalacky View Post

    I just ordered one of these (frame only),
    2013 frame? Where did you buy it from? My LBS only sells as complete bike, and only frames I could find online were 2012 frames.
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    I ordered mine from Bikeman.com. Super good service. Came a couple days ago. I upgraded the BB and Crankset and kept everything else except the wheels.

    It looks even better in person.

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    I run a 100mm fork on mine and didn't find any noticeable change to the geo. So much more fun to ride with a little squish up front, just don't buy a Rekon.

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    I've got a 2011 Unit and run a 80mm WB Magic29 fork and didn't notice any difference in handling except for the squish. I enjoyed riding rigid but as my skills progressed I was trying knarlier trials and the rigid was beginning to beat me up pretty bad! Still, the Unit is an excellent bike, so I'm set for a good while! And I appreciate the upgrades for 2013, so any of you on the fence should at least sip the kool-aid since the new bike "conforms" with the new component designs that are offered now.

    And while I also appreciate the different finishes offered each year, I'm glad I was able to get the white version late last year since I like that color combo the best! But to be fair I haven't seen a 2013 in person yet, so WTF am I babbling about anyway...

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    What's comparable to the Unit in the price range? I'd love to have it, but if the supplier delays me for another week I reckon I'll pick up something else instead, since I want to go on a group ride some friends have planned soon.

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    How much does the Large 2013 frame weigh?

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    Is it available as frame only?

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    I believe only the "Big Unit" is for sale as a frame only... Thats the Scandium version...

    On another note, I love the hardware for the rear sliders.... I've seen them in person and would love a set for my monocog flight.....

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    Yes you can

    You can buy the regular Unit as frame only. I believe the cost is around $500 or a bit more. Here's mine built up as a 2x9:
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    Just picked up my 2013 in 18". Bit heavier than I thought it'd be. 27.4lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerbat View Post
    Just picked up my 2013 in 18". Bit heavier than I thought it'd be. 27.4lbs
    Stock wheelset is heavy. Not bad to start with I guess, but the upgrade to tubeless etc. makes a huge difference. Dropped a pound or so outta my wheels/tires without spending too much dough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
    Stock wheelset is heavy. Not bad to start with I guess, but the upgrade to tubeless etc. makes a huge difference. Dropped a pound or so outta my wheels/tires without spending too much dough.
    I lost more weight than the bike weighs recently.. cheaper and more fun to lose weight on me.

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    How much does 2013 frame only weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    How much does 2013 frame only weigh?
    no idea, but i'm sure it's a pig. thick tubes are thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerbat View Post
    no idea, but i'm sure it's a pig. thick tubes are thick.
    The reason I'm asking is I have the white 2011 version. I read somewhere the 2013 weight is considerably lighter than the older models. Doesn't matter much to me, just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    The reason I'm asking is I have the white 2011 version. I read somewhere the 2013 weight is considerably lighter than the older models. Doesn't matter much to me, just curious.
    I dunno.. my flatmate has a 2006 20" unit 2-9 and it weighs .4 lbs more only than my 18.
    I should also add, he's put a heavier DH bar on it, bigger chainring, heavy ass steel pedals, and is running much heavier wheels. (he's a biiiiiig dood)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    How much does 2013 frame only weigh?
    5.5 lbs. We stripped one down at work the other day to compare it with the 2011 frame. No real weight difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
    Stock wheelset is heavy. Not bad to start with I guess, but the upgrade to tubeless etc. makes a huge difference. Dropped a pound or so outta my wheels/tires without spending too much dough.
    I have the 2012 Unit and had it down to 26 pounds just by switching the bar, grips and putting kenda karma's on it. That stock wheelset is like 2100 grams or so. 550 gram rims and a 470 gram rear hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeRey521 View Post
    I believe only the "Big Unit" is for sale as a frame only... Thats the Scandium version...

    On another note, I love the hardware for the rear sliders.... I've seen them in person and would love a set for my monocog flight.....
    Kona sliders are rock solid. They're so easy to use too. So far they've been really good at locating my wheel for good chain tension and no brake rub. This is with 10mm QR. Clearly the 12x142 is much better for that.

    I took the annoying nuts off my set screws. They're unnecessary. Just tighten the set screws against the sliders after you tighten the main screws, and they won't move. The sliders are Al so it bites in well enough and holds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wate0rman View Post
    I think that it is a glaring oversight NOT to have a tapered compatible headtube on any bike these days.
    The tapered headtube needed to be done. Even the Shimano pro fork is not offered with an 1 1/8" steerer tube next year. There are still plenty of 1 1/8" options out there but a lot of suspension and carbon forks are going to a tapered head tube. Even some carbon forks are coming with a 15mm thru axle. There maybe 1 1/8" forks available now but lets face it in 2-3 years that number will drop.

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    just ordered '13 unit...cannot wiat!

    am planning to convert to 1x9 or 10...

    Will I need to get anything else than the pats below to complete the conversion?
    -rear wheel stans flow w/x9 hub
    -shifter/derailleur sram x9 type 2 short cage 10 speed

    still don't know about the cassette, any recc's?

    [and i'm one of the wankers trying to reach 5 posts, apologies if I is in the wrong thread]

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    Why not try it as a single speed for a month or two, you might enjoy it! I bought a 2012 Kona Unit just to see what all the single speed fuss was all about and now I don't ride my geared bike anymore, the Unit is just a lot more fun.

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    not a bad idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilonidal View Post
    just ordered '13 unit...cannot wiat!

    am planning to convert to 1x9 or 10...

    Will I need to get anything else than the pats below to complete the conversion?
    -rear wheel stans flow w/x9 hub
    -shifter/derailleur sram x9 type 2 short cage 10 speed

    still don't know about the cassette, any recc's?

    [and i'm one of the wankers trying to reach 5 posts, apologies if I is in the wrong thread]
    Why didn't you buy a honzo then? 1x10 with sliding drop outs, Only real difference between the frames is the geometry.

    But you will need a chain guide and the CC-G hanger from Kona, they don't come with the bike. New chain and I would recommend a 11-36 cassette for that. I have a Unit and thought about doing the 1x9 conversion for some gravel road riding but its like a minimum of a $500 conversion. Plus the single speed is so much fun.

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    I'm looking to place an order for a Unit here in the next few weeks. I have been torn over building or buying complete. I've been offloading extra stuff from other hobbies to help funds, but I feel that buying complete will be the best option for me at this time. I will sell some more stuff to put towards a better wheel set though.

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    buy a used wheel set...i mean i think that's a cheaper option...
    or just get strong pulling the stock load...

    and @NrsRider, honzo is too squishy up front for me, though i loved the olde blue...

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    Im most likely going to order a Unit in the near future. Unfortunately I wont be able to test bike sizes before i pull the trigger on one. Im 62 33 inseam.What size units are you guys riding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgroberts View Post
    Im most likely going to order a Unit in the near future. Unfortunately I wont be able to test bike sizes before i pull the trigger on one. Im 62 33 inseam.What size units are you guys riding?
    6'3" with a 34" inseam riding a 20". Fits me well. I do have the post on the high side but I was scared to order a 22" with out seeing one in person.

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    Ordered a 19" unit two days ago. Hopefully getting it next week. Looking forward to playing on it.

    Purchased as a second 'play' bike but curious about the whole single speed thing.

    Does anyone know if the orange stickers are easy to remove? Do the sit on top of the steel lacquer? Thinking about 'personalising' with something daft.

    Also, whats the clearance like front and rear? Anyone tried a 2.3 gato or similar on theirs?

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    @octaviuos I checked today at work and there are a few layers of clear coat on top of the stickers.

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    Thanks for the info. Any idea about clearance on bigger tyres?

    Anybody running a 2.4 ardent up front?

    Final question, ive tried and failed with google - what size is the rear cog?
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    What a great looking frame, love the raw finish and old school decals.

    I have an '07 Unit 2-9 that I love and am curious how the updated geometry compares to the '07. The 2013 has a slacker headtube angle, higher bottom bracket, and slightly longer top tube. Has anyone ridden both variations?

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    Re: 2013 Kona Unit

    Is there a difference between the '12 and '13 model?
    I'm looking for my first singlespeed and can get a '12 model for a very nice price

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    Quote Originally Posted by octavius View Post
    Nrs1rider

    Final question, ive tried and failed with google - what size is the rear cog?
    18t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cif View Post
    Is there a difference between the '12 and '13 model?
    I'm looking for my first singlespeed and can get a '12 model for a very nice price

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    I'd say the only real difference is the internal headset on the '13 that lets you run a big external on the bottom. You can't run a tapered steerer fork on a '12.

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    Re: 2013 Kona Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by crackerbat View Post
    I'd say the only real difference is the internal headset on the '13 that lets you run a big external on the bottom. You can't run a tapered steerer fork on a '12.
    The only thing I might "upgrade" is a suapension fork but there are plenty 1 1/8 forks around.

    So the only really difference is the orange color? That I like enough for 300 euro difference in price

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cif View Post
    The only thing I might "upgrade" is a suapension fork but there are plenty 1 1/8 forks around.

    So the only really difference is the orange color? That I like enough for 300 euro difference in price

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    Prettymuch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cif View Post
    The only thing I might "upgrade" is a suapension fork but there are plenty 1 1/8 forks around.

    So the only really difference is the orange color? That I like enough for 300 euro difference in price
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    If your looking into size 20or 22 you might want to note . .
    2013 in sizes 20and 22have got slightly slacker head tube angles - now 70 and 71.
    The 2012 in the same sizes was/is 71 and 72 . . .

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    What are people paying for the frame/fork combo? Thinking about ordering one in the near future.

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    Picking mine up tomorrow, sticking on some xo brakes and new grips straight away.
    Heading out on Sunday hopefully if I can shake this flu.
    Ill get back with my initial thoughts, really looking forward to it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by octavius View Post
    Picking mine up tomorrow, sticking on some xo brakes and new grips straight away.
    Heading out on Sunday hopefully if I can shake this flu.
    Ill get back with my initial thoughts, really looking forward to it...
    Nice upgrade.. I'm finding the the BB7s to be plenty, and they are barely broken in. The stock grips are pretty crap.

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    Does anyone have any info on tire clearance of this frame?
    Will Panaracer Rampage 2.35, or the Ardent 2.4s fit well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chongoman View Post
    Does anyone have any info on tire clearance of this frame?
    Will Panaracer Rampage 2.35, or the Ardent 2.4s fit well?
    The tire clearance increases as you move the wheel back in the sliders but I have 2.1's on mine right now and would have no problem fitting a wider tire on there in the 2.3-2.4 range.

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    picked up my 19" unit on saturday. bike looks beautiful, has to be seen in the flesh and in daylight - lovely. no photo's yet, sorry. set it up on saturday night with xo brakes from my other bike. also fitted my favourite tyres - 2.3 geax gato's front and rear (same width as ardent 2.4 - trust me). my sliders are in as short as they can on the rear and clearance is fine at both ends.

    managed out yesterday for a few hours, i should add it my first time since i was about 5 , ive been on a single speed. it was cold, rainy and windy (it is scotland in february after all) but i was eager to hit the mud opting for a fairly flat loop to try everything out.

    i absolutely loved it, had a laugh at my 3 or 4 attempts to shift up and down... the best part of the loop was along a very slippy muddy river bank and gearing required a bit more effort than what im use to but love the black/white nature of it - your either riding or walking. loads of teeth gnashing as well.

    noticed that the chainstays behind the bb shell is a bit a shelf for mud but everything kept rolling just fine despite the dollop of muck catching a ride.

    ill trim the bars down to 680mm but other than than, id say its just about spot on for me. ill plan to head into the hills properly next weekend for a more major ride.

    very early days on a single speed but i reckon this will really help both my riding and fitness. i also note that there is a lot less to 'think' about, gears dont exactly tax your brain but its another aspect that you can forget about and just ride. its quiet as well other than the heavy breathing...

    its a bit heavier as well but im certainly no weight weenie. it will be interesting to compare the kona to my other bike (a 20 speed ti jones) after ive exclusively ridden one gear over everything i normally ride over the next few week. who knows? that might just lose 19 gears as well?

    overall, a fantastic bike for the money and throughly recommended in my very limited experience so far. cannot wait to get out again. work really gets in the way sometimes...

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    Take her out for a few more rides before cutting the bars.
    Find the x-width real helpful when grinding, or mashing away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyin_W View Post
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    Take her out for a few more rides before cutting the bars.
    Find the x-width real helpful when grinding, or mashing away.
    Speaking of bars - what is the actual width of the bars and what sort of length is the stem on the stock build?

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    Re: 2013 Kona Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by dgroberts View Post
    Speaking of bars - what is the actual width of the bars and what sort of length is the stem on the stock build?
    My 2012 has 710mm wide bar and a 80 mm stem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cif View Post
    My 2012 has 710mm wide bar and a 80 mm stem

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    Ok, thanks. I guess the 13 has the same setup.

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    Re: 2013 Kona Unit

    By the way, my '12 is size 19".
    Maybe there s a difference in sizes

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    Could be, im going for a 13 size 20"

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    Got my 2013 unit yesterday!! Threw some parts on it that I had at the house....looks great, and having the first ride saturday! Weighing in at 22 # 4oz. Pretty dang light, and there really isnt anything weight weenie about it other than the fork!

    I will post pics and some parts that I weighed individually while I had it apart. But, i probably won't post until Sunday.
    -It's time to shred some mild to moderate gnar!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnavy05 View Post
    Got my 2013 unit yesterday!! Threw some parts on it that I had at the house....looks great, and having the first ride saturday! Weighing in at 22 # 4oz. Pretty dang light, and there really isnt anything weight weenie about it other than the fork!

    I will post pics and some parts that I weighed individually while I had it apart. But, i probably won't post until Sunday.
    must have had some good stuff sitting at home to lose 5 and a half pounds with just left overs :0

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    any ideal of the frame weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersquad3 View Post
    any ideal of the frame weight?
    Someone stripped one down, 5.5lbs not sure what size it was.

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    I'd really like to build up a 650b explosif, but heard its close to six pounds. Hate buying hardtail frame that weights more than my full squish frame.

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    Here's my new Unit!

    Finally got around to putting up some pics.

    Final weight was 22lbs 4 oz with another 300 grams to be shaved when my post/stem/bar get here. So, mid 21lb range. Not bad at all!!

    Here is a list of a few things that I weighed from the stock build as I was swapping things out.

    -Kona p2 29er fork-1158 g
    stem-128g
    bar 286 g
    grips 93g
    pedals 528 g
    tires-712/708 g
    tubes 182/ 191
    reflectors 117 g
    front qr 57 g
    front wheel (with tape, no valves, no qr) 1071
    front rotor 151
    rear qr 66 g
    rear rotor 119
    I didnt have the tool to remove the cog, so i weighed the rear wheel with it, but i suspect the cog only added about 35-50g rear wheel was 1381 g
    bashguard with bolts 118 g
    32t chainring 40 g
    post 337 g
    wtb volt saddle 287

    I swapped out the wheels, fork, saddle, cog, tires, pedals, rotors, grips, and removed the bash.
    2013 Kona Unit-imag0189.jpg2013 Kona Unit-imag0187.jpg
    -It's time to shred some mild to moderate gnar!!

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    thanks for posting the pics. Gives me a idea that they can be built up light. What size frame is that?
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersquad3 View Post
    What size frame is that?
    19 inch frame

    also, ive heard alot of good stuff about the bb7's but i honestly feel like they aren't very powerful at all. I'm thinking about getting some organic pads to try and help, but I may just get some slx and be done with it. ideas?
    -It's time to shred some mild to moderate gnar!!

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    I just placed my order for an 18" Unit!

    Also use the directions in this link to set up your BB7s and they will through you over the bars.

    Avid BB7 mini resource - How to set up the Avid BB7

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