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    Nashbar 650 B Single Speed

    I bought a Nashbar Bees Knees 650B XL. I'm thrilled!

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    Since Christmas is here soon, and upgrades are probably needed initially, what would you guys recommend?

    I was thinking the BB5's had to go first for a set of bb7s or hydros. I've never had hydros and was thinking about which ones I would get.

    The other thing would be going Stan's kit for tubeless...also Carbon fork? Can you all spend my Christmas $$ for me?
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    16 Tooth in the back...

    I'm thinking this might be a little too intense for a SS newbie. I won't let it discourage me initially but I may be looking at a different cog.

    Posting pics when it arrives!

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    Cool looking bike, here's what I see as immediate upgrades
    -replace the front chainring with a 32t
    -replace the rear cog with a 20t (or 18t if your ride flatter terrain)
    -replace brakes with BB7's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Whisperer View Post
    Cool looking bike, here's what I see as immediate upgrades
    -replace the front chainring with a 32t
    -replace the rear cog with a 20t (or 18t if your ride flatter terrain)
    -replace brakes with BB7's
    x2.....and some faster rolling tires depending on where you ride. Saddle after you try it....maybe great saddle maybe not for your butt.

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    Upgrades

    The Bike is set to arrive tomorrow. I purchased a 32t chainring and a 20t cog so far...
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    Aside from changing the gearing to match your fitness, personal preference, or whatever....just ride it as is for a while. BB5 brakes really aren't that terrible. Not worth replacing those right away.
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    here she be

    Added bottle cage and cb egg beaters.
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    What's up (no pun intended) with bars? You running risers upside down on purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryantreams View Post
    What's up (no pun intended) with bars? You running risers upside down on purpose?
    No pun taken.

    I actually had a debate about whether to run them this way, which is more of a backsweep, and the way they came, instead of running them up, like I used to. I may be adjusting after some riding, but I also like the back sweep.

    Handlebars, saddle and seatpost will probably all be upgrades this Christmas.

    I'm not sure how I feel about the egg beaters. I had a difficult time disengaging compared to my SPD pedals.
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    Smile First time SS and First ride on the Bees Knees



    First Impressions:

    It was awesome. No, literally, so fun. Everyone talks about the solitude or quiet nature of the single speed and I realized that today. If there weren't 1,000 leaves, I would have been silent.

    This is a very unique ride for my area. Rigid: I love it. I can climb without worry whether I remembered to lock out and I can just crank on and on. Single Speed: I rocked the original setup on the bike 38x16. Now, I live in the foothills of the WNC & SC mountains, but I was able to climb everything because I did a short ride and stopped to adjust different things. I flipped the Handlebars to their correct position mid-ride (I don't know why I set them up that way) and I am still messing with Saddle positioning. I'm also riding CB egg-beaters and that has been a learning curve I haven't mastered. I may go back to the SPD system, but only time will tell. The 27.5 wheels: It feels like a 26" ride beneath me. I really enjoyed the snappy nature and the ease of bunny hopping after being on a 29" bike exclusively for 9 months. The Nevegals 2.1" really, really hook up. I was rocking WTB Exiwolfs 2.35" on the last ride and they rolled great, but sliding on leaves and in sand was the main cause of my wrecking.

    I like the bike. Weakness: BB5's, oh well. I'm excited to take it out with some buddies to see how my skills really match up.I'm going to change to the raceface 32T chainring I ordered and take it on some more climbing sections for the next ride. I have a 20T cog I can throw on for the excursions to Dupont and Pisgah, but in my life, those are rare ocassions.

    Weight came in at 27.2 lbs with pedals. Not terrible, not great. It is all stock with Nevegals. I'm 190 lbs so...who cares!

    I'd like some wider handlebars (maybe a different material) and possibly a new seatpost. Any recommendations would be helpful!

    Some dustier pictures to come!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCkikapuD View Post



    I'd like some wider handlebars (maybe a different material) and possibly a new seatpost. Any recommendations would be helpful!
    What kind of sweep do you like in the handlebars?

    Are you looking for light weight or compliance in the handlebars and seatpost?

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    Awesome initial review. Glad you like it. Give the BB5 pads some time to break in before passing judgement. You may need to adjust them as well.
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    I wish that I knew what sweep I liked. I have used easton monkey lites that were ok, i have used the stock FSA that were on my c-dale and I didn't like them much.

    I really am looking for handling and compliance with the handle bars, and compliance with the seatpost. Weight is secondary for me. I'm not racing (yet!)

    Thanks!
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    Go with it. Pretend it's a 20. And, just
    "Pedal Damn it".

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    Moar pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCkikapuD View Post
    I wish that I knew what sweep I liked. I have used easton monkey lites that were ok, i have used the stock FSA that were on my c-dale and I didn't like them much.

    I really am looking for handling and compliance with the handle bars, and compliance with the seatpost. Weight is secondary for me. I'm not racing (yet!)

    Thanks!
    Well Ti bars and seatposts give great compliance but are $$expensive$$ and not really light.

    Carbon bars are pretty good for compliance and not as expensive as Ti along with being quite light. I have not had luck with Carbon seatposts on hardtails, I've cracked two of them, one a 27.2 and one a 31.6 so it's not just the diameter. Both broke after a couple years so replacing annually would be a solution if it weren't for the expense.

    On a full rigid I've found the Alt Bars with greater sweep to help as much as anything. Not compliant but they put your hands, wrists, and elbows in a more comfortable position that causes less fatigue IME.

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    three rides now



    Definite change will be bars.

    OK so I've put the 32T ring on and I didn't walk anything at south side I croft state park with 16 cog. I think I may have removed too many links to switch and rock the 18 to 20T for Dupont or Pisgah. Can I add links back to the chain? It is a kmc z410. Anyway, here are some post ride pics at the house and trail head.

    I'm rough on equipment so we shall see how she holds up.

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    Should be fine adding links to a KMC Z410, it uses thick side plates and non-mushroomed pins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Whisperer View Post
    Should be fine adding links to a KMC Z410, it uses thick side plates and non-mushroomed pins
    Buy KMC K810SL-CP, very nice chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCkikapuD View Post


    Definite change will be bars.

    OK so I've put the 32T ring on and I didn't walk anything at south side I croft state park with 16 cog. I think I may have removed too many links to switch and rock the 18 to 20T for Dupont or Pisgah. Can I add links back to the chain? It is a kmc z410. Anyway, here are some post ride pics at the house and trail head.

    I'm rough on equipment so we shall see how she holds up.

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    As said, yes on chain. Looks like fun trail and nice bike thanks for the pics and keep us updated.
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    Nice looking bike! I see you got the XL frame size..how tall are you? Inseam? I'm 6-2 and wondering if L or XL would work. I had a Dawes Deadeye in 19", but sold it as I felt just too cramped and prefer to be stretched out more. Thanks and post how you like it so far.
    I like big bars and I cannot lie

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    Can you post a good closeup of the drive side dropout?
    Does the disc brake have to be adjusted every time you swap gears? While the inside chainstay location is usually nice for a caliper (9 o'clock) it looks like this may be positioned so that the disc moves farther away or closer depending on gear used. When the caliper is positioned at 12 o'clock this difference is less drastic.

    What is the axle to crown length on that fork? I'd think a CF fork would be a nice upgrade to drop a few lb and gain some flex.

    I'm seriously thinking of this bike, not sure how it stacks up against others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimx200 View Post
    Nice looking bike! I see you got the XL frame size..how tall are you? Inseam? I'm 6-2 and wondering if L or XL would work. I had a Dawes Deadeye in 19", but sold it as I felt just too cramped and prefer to be stretched out more. Thanks and post how you like it so far.
    I still like it. Shoud say, love it. I'm much faster than I anticipated being on a SS Rigid. I'm a hair under 6'2" and it fits nicely. I'm a stretched out rider, and this is close. I'm probably going to some wide flat handlebars soon to stretch it even more. I'm headed out today after a little time off due to weather and schedule. We'll see if I'm POOT (passed out on trail) or still in shape. Probably former...
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    Quote Originally Posted by theNomad View Post
    Can you post a good closeup of the drive side dropout?
    Does the disc brake have to be adjusted every time you swap gears? While the inside chainstay location is usually nice for a caliper (9 o'clock) it looks like this may be positioned so that the disc moves farther away or closer depending on gear used. When the caliper is positioned at 12 o'clock this difference is less drastic.

    What is the axle to crown length on that fork? I'd think a CF fork would be a nice upgrade to drop a few lb and gain some flex.

    I'm seriously thinking of this bike, not sure how it stacks up against others.
    I'm sure that it has to be adjusted. I can take a pic and post it up later, but it is a straight back horizontal DO. I've adjusted the brake and even spaced it differently to get it set right because I dropped to the 32T in the front. I don't know the axle to crown length...but I will try to find out when I get back home too. CF fork would do the trick I'm sure, I don't have the coin.
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    Interesting. I'd love to see closeup pics as I'm near pulling the trigger. The dropouts looks HUGE, like there's a ton of metal that isn't necessary or something.

    (flamesuit on) I'd wager a little garage welding could add a RD hanger to that dropout to add 1x9 versatility. (which I can get on many 29er options easily)

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    whats the geo on this bike?

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    Sorry it took so long.

    Quote Originally Posted by theNomad View Post
    Can you post a good closeup of the drive side dropout?
    Does the disc brake have to be adjusted every time you swap gears? While the inside chainstay location is usually nice for a caliper (9 o'clock) it looks like this may be positioned so that the disc moves farther away or closer depending on gear used. When the caliper is positioned at 12 o'clock this difference is less drastic.

    What is the axle to crown length on that fork? I'd think a CF fork would be a nice upgrade to drop a few lb and gain some flex.

    I'm seriously thinking of this bike, not sure how it stacks up against others.
    can you check my gallery? I cant' seem to bring the photo into the thread...sorry.

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    thanks! That's what i was wanting to see.

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    I have the Nashbar 29er ss and love it! Ridgeline is awesome on a rigid! The stock wheels are cheap and I have entertained 650b's as a replacement...... Nice bike!

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    SCkikapuD, can you check the A to C measurement?

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    My modified Nashbar 650B

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    One Year

    We are coming up on one year together...the relationship is strong.

    I broke the left egg beater yesterday...I'm overdue for an upgrade.

    BB7s still rockin'

    It needs new grips like 50 rides ago...

    I'm 25 lbs heavier (thanks Starting Strength) and it seems like I am a little slower than when I started. I still love the climbing.
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    Great to hear! Don't know about that seat angle though

    Quote Originally Posted by SCkikapuD View Post
    We are coming up on one year together...the relationship is strong.

    I broke the left egg beater yesterday...I'm overdue for an upgrade.

    BB7s still rockin'

    It needs new grips like 50 rides ago...

    I'm 25 lbs heavier (thanks Starting Strength) and it seems like I am a little slower than when I started. I still love the climbing.

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    Bee's Knees Indeed

    This bike rides like it was custom made for my body type and the local trails. I'm just under 6' and got the large. I have 32/20 gearing, a Thompson post, Terry Buzz Off, front hydro Deore, and a slightly wider bar. Almost perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinsir View Post
    This bike rides like it was custom made for my body type and the local trails. I'm just under 6' and got the large. I have 32/20 gearing, a Thompson post, Terry Buzz Off, front hydro Deore, and a slightly wider bar. Almost perfect.

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