29er tire weight list

Sweeney · 06-28-2009

I admit that I'm a WW when it comes to tires and some of these 29er tires are scary in the weight department. There is lots of tire talk but weight is usually left out. I think it would be helpfully if we had a listing of 29er tire weights.

Here's two that I just bought:

Kenda Karma 1.95; 525 grams
Kenda Klaw 1.95 front; 665 grams

slocaus · 06-30-2009

Lots of info here:
http://mtbtires.com/specs/700.html

Outdated, but someday, he might get caught up.

J Ro · 06-30-2009

my WTB Stout 2.3 came in right at 900 grams (minus the packaging)

The WTB Nano I took off the front was 687 grams, I just needed more grip in the front.

Silentfoe · 06-30-2009

I am also a WW when it comes to tires. I just put on a set of 2.4 Racing Ralphs. They weighed 600 and 606 grams each. MUCH lower than published. They were 25 grams heavier that the 2.1 Kenda SB8's. The difference in width and grip offered was more than enough convincing to gain around 50 grams

NS2000X · 06-30-2009

Continental Race King's 2.2 - 695g (average 690g & 700g)

I am debating switching to:
Fr: Racing Ralph 2.4"
Rr: Racing Ralph 2.25"

I use RR's on my 26er, and get on well with the tread pattern.

BruceBrown · 06-30-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweeney

I admit that I'm a WW when it comes to tires and some of these 29er tires are scary in the weight department. There is lots of tire talk but weight is usually left out. I think it would be helpfully if we had a listing of 29er tire weights.

Here's two that I just bought:

Kenda Karma 1.95; 525 grams
Kenda Klaw 1.95 front; 665 grams

What weight weenie 29"er tires in specific are you interested in knowing the weights of for your list?

As we all know, each tire model has a range of weights and one may luck out with a lighter weight tire of that model and another may get a heavier weight.

I have one Crow 2.0 that is 460g and one that is 480g.
I have one Raven 2.2 that is 528g and one that is 548g.
I have one Nanoraptor that is 566g and one that is 606g.
I have 4 Karma 1.9's that are all 510g.
I have 2 Racing Ralph 2.25's that are both 580g.
I have one Maxxis Aspen 2.1 that is 480g and one that is 500g.

I don't have them, but the Schwalbe Furious Fred's are 335g per tire. That should be WW enough for most.

And I could go on and on, but outside of the various Bontrager XR skinny and light versions things start to get up in the 600g+ range from there....

conde · 07-01-2009

bontrager XR1 29" x 1,9 team issue , 496 gr whit packaging.

JeroenK · 07-01-2009

Here is my measurements list:

Notubes Crow: 439 / 478
Bontrager XR1: 484 / 489
Kenda Karma 1.9": 521 / 498
Notubes Raven: 513 / 517
Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.25": 563 / 547
Continental Race King 2.2": 647 / 659
Bontrager ACX 2.2" TLR: 656

From 550gr upwards, I have a hard time to consider tires to be race-worthy. That's a very personal limit, very much influenced by the terrain I race on: Mostly forest conditions with little rocks thrown in. I find, there is very little choice under 550gr. It seems some tire manufacturers just do not push to low weight in the 29" department as they do with 26" tires. There are masses of 29" tires above 600gr because of that and I think they do not need to be.

The ACX kind of proves that. Full knob, pretty wide and TLR beads at a pretty good weight. Conti achieves the same weight with their Race Kings (and my pair is light!), but with only a semi knob tread. If Conti would use their "supersonic" casing, the Race King would be on par with the Racing Ralph, possibly even lighter. Now THAT would make a racing tire. We're only at the beginning of 29er specific development, I guess.

Now if we just could persuade the Germans to go and race 29ers...

eliflap · 07-01-2009

weighted 4 tyres

Kenda Karma 1,9

518 and 520 g

Kenda Karma 2,2

784 and 814 g

eliflap · 07-01-2009

please , DO NOT post weight including packaging ....

orrible

The Squeaky Wheel · 07-01-2009

Weighed this week:

Specialized Captain Control 2.2 750gm
Geax Saguaro TNT 2.2 800gm

BruceBrown · 07-01-2009

I don't have them, but the Schwalbe Furious Fred's are 335g per tire. That should be WW enough for most.

The Squeaky Wheel · 07-01-2009

Weighed this week without packaging:

Specialized Captain Control 2.2 750gm
Geax Saguaro TNT 2.2 800gm

The Squeaky Wheel · 07-01-2009

Weighed this week without packaging:

Specialized Captain Control 2.2 750gm
Geax Saguaro TNT 2.2 800gm

1-bar · 07-01-2009

Maxxis 2.1 Ignitor 575 and 580
Maxxis 2.1 Crossmark 610
Schwable Little Albert 580

F5000sl · 07-01-2009

Not to be a downer, but how can NoTubes tires even be considered mtb tires? It's easy to be light when you don't have any rubber knobs.

The Squeaky Wheel · 07-01-2009

Weighed this week without packaging:

Specialized Captain Control 2.2 750gm
Geax Saguaro TNT 2.2 800gm

BruceBrown · 07-01-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by F5000sl

Not to be a downer, but how can NoTubes tires even be considered mtb tires? It's easy to be light when you don't have any rubber knobs.

Not to be a downer back at you, but this question is getting about as tiresome as is possible on every thread that the Raven or Crow is mentioned. All I can say is go buy a Crow, a Raven, a Vulpine, a Furious Fred or any other semi-slick XC race tire and give 'em a go. Then get back to us on what you discovered and found by running them. By the way, there are more tires in this category for 29"ers coming.

Plenty of guys riding and racing semi-slick tires in the 26" and the 29" platforms who would beg to differ with your opinion as to how they could be considered a mountain bike tire.

Toss a leg over a pair, take 'em out on your trails and get back to us.

That's really the only way to answer the question.

BB

RandyBoy · 07-01-2009

Squeaky... quit getting the sticky stuff in your keyboard. You sound like a broken record. 4X the same post that's not even relevant? Don't you preview your posts? Go do that crap on Foes Blaugh.

JeroenK · 07-01-2009

I'm with you Bruce.

F5000SL should have taken a trip to Houffalize this spring to tell the Fisher world cup team that what they were doing with those tires on that course should not be considered MTB.

On an XC specific course, more riding skills equals less traction needed.

Back to tire weights: I have some Intense's lying around that I should weigh to add some to the 'boat anchor' category, but where...

The Squeaky Wheel · 07-01-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyBoy

Squeaky... quit getting the sticky stuff in your keyboard. You sound like a broken record. 4X the same post that's not even relevant? Don't you preview your posts? Go do that crap on Foes Blaugh.

do I know you?

G-Live · 07-01-2009

IRC Mythos 2.1 Front 590/610.
IRC Notos 2.1 650/660

G

RandyBoy · 07-01-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel

do I know you?

Oops, sorry, seems the database is corrupted, according to Francois. Could be the cause of your multiple posts.

bikenut316 · 07-01-2009

Are they similar?

jmilliron · 07-01-2009

What are people getting for the Hutchinson Python 29er 2.1? 560g? I'm running them F & R right now but didn't have a scale when I bought them.

Coach417 · 07-01-2009

Set of Rampages: 1) 712 grams 2) 718 grams

WindWithMe · 07-01-2009

Slightly used Racing Ralph 2.25 = 541.6

Bontrager Jones ACX 2.2 = 711.7 & 661.9

Continental Mountain Kings 2.2 = 611.1 & 633

Kenda Small Block 2.2 = 581

WTB Nano Raptors 2.2 = 578.8 & 612.7 & 611.8

mtbnutty · 07-01-2009

Minutes ago, UPS just delivered (2) Rampages: 780 & 795 grams.

IvanMTB · 07-01-2009

IRD Fire XC Pro foldind 2.1" - 700g

Cheers!
I.

the mayor · 07-01-2009

Kenda Karma1.9= I have 2 from early last year that weighed 498/510....got a pair late last summer that weighed 514/ 569....yes, 569!

Silentfoe · 07-01-2009

Ouch!!!

mtbnutty · 07-01-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silentfoe

Ouch!!!

Yea, they came in heavy, but recently I've been slicing casings left and right. Bontragers, Speciliazed and WTB have been recent victims. The Nevegals are the only ones that have held up, but talk about heavy and sloow! Hopefully the Rampages are all that everyone says they are.

Silentfoe · 07-01-2009

That makes enough sense. Better to be heavy than walking. Lets us know if they hold up. (in another thread though, no hijacking here.)

Sweeney · 07-01-2009

I had Python's on the bike this winter. I liked them but not enough to keep them. The front was OK but the rear would slide around the corners like a flat track motorcycle. They weighed in at 630 & 635.

newmarketrog · 07-01-2009

michelin xc at 2.0. 650, 660. after 6 years of just riding/racing/commuting on my 29er. i haven't ridden a tire that is more durable, sheds mud and just plain works better than all other tires that i've tried. i usually get 1500+ road commuting miles at 55 psi and another 500 + offroad at 32 psi including racing out of a pair. buy em, they are less expensive than most as well. where i live it's all rocks and the side walls hold up incredibly well on em.

rog

Coach417 · 07-01-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtbnutty

Yea, they came in heavy, but recently I've been slicing casings left and right. Bontragers, Speciliazed and WTB have been recent victims. The Nevegals are the only ones that have held up, but talk about heavy and sloow! Hopefully the Rampages are all that everyone says they are.

Depending on where you ride, the Rampages are an excellent all around tire. I have been running them exclusively for about two years in rooty, rocky terrain and love them. They are a bit heavy (didn't weigh my 1st set, 2nd was as listed above). I need a new set and was going to try something with a little less resistance and a bit lighter. Traction is great though.

Tasselhof · 07-02-2009

WTB Weirwolf - 786gr
WTB Vulpine - 556gr

ubermach429 · 07-02-2009

just got some Geax Barro Race 2.0's
467gr and 468gr

Vortechcoupe · 07-02-2009

geax seguaro folding, 714 grams.

JeroenK · 07-02-2009

Keep 'em coming!

If we keep this on the top page long enough, someone will eventually make a database of it that we can access trough a website, right?

Coach417 · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by newmarketrog

michelin xc at 2.0. 650, 660. after 6 years of just riding/racing/commuting on my 29er. i haven't ridden a tire that is more durable, sheds mud and just plain works better than all other tires that i've tried. i usually get 1500+ road commuting miles at 55 psi and another 500 + offroad at 32 psi including racing out of a pair. buy em, they are less expensive than most as well. where i live it's all rocks and the side walls hold up incredibly well on em.

rog

WOW, that's 60-75 grams less than listed on Bike29. If that's accurate, it is a huge (albeit positive) discrepancy. Are those weights consistent with other sets you've had, or are they the only ones you've weighed?

meltingfeather · 07-02-2009

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...WotQ nc&hl=en
will try to keep up...

NS2000X · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltingfeather

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...WotQ nc&hl=en
will try to keep up...

That's an awesome spreadsheet! Good show.
Just a note on Averaging. I posted my Race King's at 695g average (690 & 700), so it is like counting 695 twice in your average.

mtbnutty · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltingfeather

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...WotQ nc&hl=en
will try to keep up...

Thanks for the spreadsheet but can you add the Rampages.

JeroenK · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltingfeather

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...WotQ nc&hl=en
will try to keep up...

that's great!

Can you make separate colums for advertised and real weights?

meltingfeather · 07-02-2009

done, done and done. i whipped through the posts pretty quickly, so i'm not promising that everything is perfect. i do however, understand averaging.

NS2000X · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltingfeather

done, done and done. i whipped through the posts pretty quickly, so i'm not promising that everything is perfect. i do however, understand averaging.

Wasn't trying to explain _your_ average.
Just how mine was interpreted
(i.e. that I had two weights one for my Front and one for the Back tire, rather than I weighed the same tire twice with two close results that I averaged).

Again, jolly good show on the spreadsheet!

briscoelab · 07-02-2009

Specialized Fast Trak S-works LK 530 and 535 grams. 2.0"

Maxxis Crossmark 2.1" 640 grams.

meltingfeather · 07-02-2009

if anyone wants to help out with legwork for filling in the advertised column, just post up here and specify that the weight is 'advertised'.

JeroenK · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceBrown

I don't have them, but the Schwalbe Furious Fred's are 335g per tire. That should be WW enough for most.

That's the advertised weight, according to the Schwalbe site. Or have you seen real weights like that, Bruce?