After about six weeks of exclusive SS riding, I finally got around to riding the Box again today.
This thing stinks. Total crap. When I ride, I want to suffer.
I want to work for it, you know?
Stupid short stays let you float the front over anything essentially effortlessly. What crap! For some reason they also seem to make it pump the trail better and bunny hop easier?
The slack angles cover huge holes in my game. Descending requires no thought. It's like buying skills! This is essentially the same thing as doping in my book.
The uber-stiff frame and wheel always go where pointed, and when it slides, it slide as one big block, no squirreliness at all. Where is the challenge!!
You'd think that at least you would suffer on the climbs, but noooooo. Stupid fancy gears. Rediculous controlled suspension motion. Climbs through rock gardens and technical steeps with minimal pilot interaction required. Is this a bike or some kind of robot that reads my mind. It is spooky.
There was a time when mountain biking was a hard sport for hard men. This thing has totally sissified the experience. When we look back in history, the turning point, mark my words, towards the sissification of mountain biking will be when it was introduced.
There is only one answer: Ban this bike and any others who would try to imitate it's performance. Luckily, Devin is only one guy so there are not a lot out there. The threat is still manageable. If folks like Specialized, or especially Turner figure this geometry out, these sort of frames will soon be as common as mosquitos. The manliness of the entire 29" movement will be in question. (As if it wasn't already!)
I would dump this thing right now, really, but the mods would be on my back about buying an ad, and honestly, I have to tell you...it's too dangerous to let it fall into the wrong hands. I couldn't live with myself if I knowingly let someone else fall into this. Better to let them ride their Sultans, RIP's, and El Rey's in ignorant, manly bliss.
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And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.
The slack angles cover huge holes in my game. Descending requires no thought. It's like buying skills!
You'd think that at least you would suffer on the climbs, but noooooo.
Yawn. No one here is listening. They're too busy arguing fork/seatpost offset or trying to decide on the color scheme for their Fly9 wheels. Or panicking if they can't get the right tiluminum bolt kit. People here don't actually ride bikes, at least not most of them. Stop messing with their heads--it'll only confuse 'em...
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Nice crutchpost on your crutchframe. I installed some crutchrings and a crutchcog on mine (to go with my crutchpost and crutchtires). And then I rode it. And the whole time, even when it hurt like hell climbing or when I was scared pantsless descending, I was grinning.
Tee hee.
A good friend and longtime riding/racing partner just scored a sweet deal on a Behemoth. Throughout the first ride he had this constant look of surprise/disbelief/delight on his face. And he kept uttering things (usually after executing a move or cleaning a trap that he didn't believe was cleanable) like, "That's just wrong!". But it was rare for him to actually say anything intelligible. Most of the time he was in various states of giggling.
Of course I can't help but add to this tread with the other Orange Lenzsport in Arizona...
"It's like buying skills!"
I can attest to this. My Behemoth has changed my riding. I can ride drops and steeps now that I never used to even consider. It likes to climb. I am in love.
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Mike you are a very horrible man. I could have died! My HR was at it's normal just got out of bed 50bpm and then all of a sudden i see that picture and BAM... my head is spinning, i can't catch my breath...
I hate you for always having everything first!!!!!!
what is the travel on that thing?!?!?!?!?! (please say 140 or 145mm)
Last thing I remember, I was strolling aimlessly through the Veloswap in Denver when some shady-looking character grabbed my attention. "Psst, buddy, wanna try some of this....:
Look familiar, MC? I thought I could take a little taste and move along. I was wrong. I had to buy it. And now after riding the 'Box for the past 6 months I had to part ways with my Yeti 575 - I couldn't bear to see it collecting dust in the garage. And what would any sane individual do with the cash raised by selling the Yeti? Like any good junkie, I'm getting the wife hooked on the poison as well. Her work-in-progress...
I'll have the Levi built up as soon as I can sort out what color Fly9 hubs will look the fly-est.
On the subject of the 'Box, I took it home and hung it on the scale on my garage cuz that's the kinda XC geek I was. Scale said 32 lbs. My jaw dropped - how the hell would I climb anything on a 32 lb bike? I promptly cut the rope that suspended said scale from the ceiling and threw it in the trash and haven't looked back. Yeah, this thing is a serious crutch.
29ers shouldn't have long travel. they are really just glorified road bikes! 29" wheels are weak and should only be used by weight weenie cross country racers and people who ride bike paths. i don't know why anyone would ever own a 29er with more than 100mm of travel. it is really just stupidity!!!
Look at you, you lycra-wearing, XC-weenie poseur....
That bike looks great for fireroads....but it'll never catch on.
At least you have the decency to not post pics of yourself using ultra secret, way new, unobtanium-for-mere-mortal forks without even commenting on it. 'preciate that.
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[quote=mechmann_mtb]i disagree with you guys though...
29ers shouldn't have long travel. they are really just glorified road bikes! 29" wheels are weak and should only be used by weight weenie cross country racers and people who ride bike paths. i don't know why anyone would ever own a 29er with more than 100mm of travel. it is really just stupidity!!!
Mike you are a very horrible man. I could have died! My HR was at it's normal just got out of bed 50bpm and then all of a sudden i see that picture and BAM... my head is spinning, i can't catch my breath...
I hate you for always having everything first!!!!!!
what is the travel on that thing?!?!?!?!?! (please say 140 or 145mm)
+1, please elaborate on that purty fork! (since finding a Manitou with T/A is like trying to find a unicorn...)
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Keep in mind that this guy is a born-and-bred xc racer-geek. Note the shoes and shorts. All he's ever known (when cycling) is putting a hurt on those behind and catching anyone with the audacity to move ahead. And for years he was very, very good at it.
But life changes. He's got a more-than-full-time job and simply doesn't have much time to ride. 4 hours on the weekend and *maybe* 2 hours during the week is about as good as it gets for him (<-- ). He realized that going fast wasn't nearly as desirable as having fun.
So he got a Behemoth. And these vids show that, on his first ride since last July, and first one on this bike, he's adapting kinda, sorta OK to it.
His style points are medium/low and he got much smoother throughout the day. But still... To pull these moves, on a new bike, first ride in 9 months, NEVER having done this 'style' of riding or even seen these trails before, says a lot about the capability and adaptibility of both rider and bike.
Re: Fork. Sorry, I signed and need to honor the NDA...
I had the early train on this one...
November of 2005 I was testing my Behemoth...none of that fancy technical rock dancing....just high speed grinning....
At least you have the decency to not post pics of yourself using ultra secret, way new, unobtanium-for-mere-mortal forks without even commenting on it. 'preciate that.
yeah, the fork i have on that bike was the old unobtanium fork that mike helped out with, a fork that wasn't at all available to anyone back when he first started riding it like... what almost 2 years ago now? LOL
so after doing some photo scaling, i have determined that the fork pictured on the pink bike is no more than 5" travel, which sucks major bunghole. i know, i know, the frame is only 5" travel, but my lunchbox works AWESOME with 150mm which is almost 6". the WFO is 6". the only other frame, the Spider 29er, should be 5.5". there are lots of 4" forks, and manipoo has a 5" fork...
PLEASE LET SOMEONE AT ROCKSHOX KNOW THAT WE NEED A 6" FORK, NOT A "ME TOO" 5" FORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A little further south another AZ Behemoth roams the trails...
I've had mine for, what, more than 2 years now? Wow. The above shot is its current setup, and as so many have chimed in above, it's changed so much about the way I approach the local trails.
All for the better, IMO. It's the bike of choice for anything less than 4 hours, and sometimes more than that.
During idle moments I have thoughts of multi-day tours on the 'moth, and I get the feeling it may become more than a daydream sometime. It's just so much more fun to ride, either down or up.
Especially up these days, now that I've got the aforementioned crutchring and crutchcog.
PLEASE LET SOMEONE AT ROCKSHOX KNOW THAT WE NEED A 6" FORK, NOT A "ME TOO" 5" FORK!!!!!!
Gotta walk before you can run. A good 5" fork from Rockshox would be a great thing. I'd love a 5" fork that's not Manitou or WB- preferably 130mm not 120mm...
Gotta walk before you can run. A good 5" fork from Rockshox would be a great thing. I'd love a 5" fork that's not Manitou or WB- preferably 130mm not 120mm...
NO!!!! aim high! 6" is the only thing i won't be disappointed with. 150mm of plush trail love. oh man how sweet it would be...
if you want 5" go buy a manipoo! i want more, i want big, i have the bike for it!!!!!!
btw (you could probably limit travel on a 6" fork to get 5" if you just can't handle the extra travel... but this whole walk before run thing sound lame. i need to FLY!)
NO!!!! aim high! 6" is the only thing i won't be disappointed with. 150mm of plush trail love. oh man how sweet it would be...
if you want 5" go buy a manipoo! i want more, i want big, i have the bike for it!!!!!!
btw (you could probably limit travel on a 6" fork to get 5" if you just can't handle the extra travel... but this whole walk before run thing sound lame. i need to FLY!)
clearly you are an amazing rider as certainly only a fool who was not an amazing rider would speak as such. We are not all blessed to have your skills such that we could handle that much travel, let alone on a 29er. We also dont all race all the time like you so we wont be able to overcome the extra slugishness that would come with such a fork on the climbs. If I ever get into racing and get even into half as good of shape as you and obtain half the skills you have I suppose then I would have to agree, but until then...
The important thing is it looks about 5" in the pick, nothing's to say it doesn't have travel adjust AND the key thing - IT HAS A MAXEL
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so after doing some photo scaling, i have determined that the fork pictured on the pink bike is no more than 5" travel, which sucks major bunghole. i know, i know, the frame is only 5" travel, but my lunchbox works AWESOME with 150mm which is almost 6". the WFO is 6". the only other frame, the Spider 29er, should be 5.5". there are lots of 4" forks, and manipoo has a 5" fork...
PLEASE LET SOMEONE AT ROCKSHOX KNOW THAT WE NEED A 6" FORK, NOT A "ME TOO" 5" FORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yuppers, wouldn't expect anything else of you. We're all just jealous you get to play with and help develop all the cool toys
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Re: Fork. Sorry, I signed and need to honor the NDA...
clearly you are an amazing rider as certainly only a fool who was not an amazing rider would speak as such. We are not all blessed to have your skills such that we could handle that much travel, let alone on a 29er. We also dont all race all the time like you so we wont be able to overcome the extra slugishness that would come with such a fork on the climbs. If I ever get into racing and get even into half as good of shape as you and obtain half the skills you have I suppose then I would have to agree, but until then...
lol... i have never ridden with you, but thanks for the compliment...
i don't really want a 6" fork for a "race bike", i want it for a FUN bike!
don't speak of this "extra sluggishness" on the climbs. we are talking LONG TRAVEL forks here. Fox makes a 3-4" travel fork, the Reba is a 3-4" travel fork, the Manipoo is a 5" travel fork. i don't want some uber ghey "brain" type terralogic 6" fork that would convert itself to a carbon rigid fork for when you want to go all "goater". i want the 29er equivalent to the Lyric, or the 36. those are the forks that made AM 26" bikes worth owning, something stiff that you can get very aggressive on yet still have great small bump compliance.
I have a 6" travel fork but am not getting the right performance from it (i am still working with it and trying different fixes because it is the only one of it's kind!), but buying a 6" fork that works perfect right out of the box is what will make bikes like my 'Box more commonplace. then you can order a copy of my 'Box from Ventana and bling it out!
Now when I go out riding, they will all attribute my speed, goat like climbing, DH Steve Peat prowess and major air-time to my EMD....and I need them to all think I am a demi-god of biking...
*checks piggy bank pennies for FS 29er*
*the above statement may or may not exaggerate my biking skills...
yeah whatever nat, you're one to talk. I've seen u in speedos and the only thing more disgusting than your muffin top hanging over them was the amount of back hair going on
yeah whatever nat, you're one to talk. I've seen u in speedos and the only thing more disgusting than your muffin top hanging over them was the amount of back hair going on
Midwest - is a 5in bike really necessary? Heck, I'm running loads of platform on my El Rey. Now the Appalachian range where I grew my big ones riding 26 and rigid - that's where real men mountain bike; in my old age I would go with a Box.
Midwest - is a 5in bike really necessary? Heck, I'm running loads of platform on my El Rey. Now the Appalachian range where I grew my big ones riding 26 and rigid - that's where real men mountain bike; in my old age I would go with a Box.
Midwest - is a 5in bike really necessary? Heck, I'm running loads of platform on my El Rey. Now the Appalachian range where I grew my big ones riding 26 and rigid - that's where real men mountain bike; in my old age I would go with a Box.
5" bikes aren't necessary. then again, neither is mountain biking...
(wife on today's road ride)
but i do love having 6" of travel when we go out to play! (especially when something doesn't go as planned.. )
and having full custody of a 12 year girl is why I'm old Please kill me now. Yes, the constant drama is rubbing off on me.
In all seriousness if I get some additional time to travel to the mountains and some play money, a Box is in my future. Hardtails and XC FS with skinny tires are the norm here and now my El Rey feels like my old Klein Adept complete with the pain from lack of plush travel and it begging me to ride harder. One of the most fun bikes I ever had was my old Weyless XP designed by I believe, the Niner folks. The Lenz is looking a lot like that bike in my eyes.
I see OLD 40+ year olds every day because of obesity and lack of exercise. If all Americans would just exercise a little and drop 10 to 20lbs I honestly believe I would be out of a job.
If folks like Specialized, or especially Turner figure this geometry out, these sort of frames will soon be as common as mosquitos. The manliness of the entire 29" movement will be in question. (As if it wasn't already!)
Thank fortune I have my Sultan to keep me manly!
Not to mention my boxers under lycra, as recommended by Cutthroat.
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After about six weeks of exclusive SS riding, I finally got around to riding the Box again today.
This thing stinks. Total crap. When I ride, I want to suffer.
I want to work for it, you know?
Stupid short stays let you float the front over anything essentially effortlessly. What crap! For some reason they also seem to make it pump the trail better and bunny hop easier?
The slack angles cover huge holes in my game. Descending requires no thought. It's like buying skills! This is essentially the same thing as doping in my book.
The uber-stiff frame and wheel always go where pointed, and when it slides, it slide as one big block, no squirreliness at all. Where is the challenge!!
You'd think that at least you would suffer on the climbs, but noooooo. Stupid fancy gears. Rediculous controlled suspension motion. Climbs through rock gardens and technical steeps with minimal pilot interaction required. Is this a bike or some kind of robot that reads my mind. It is spooky.
There was a time when mountain biking was a hard sport for hard men. This thing has totally sissified the experience. When we look back in history, the turning point, mark my words, towards the sissification of mountain biking will be when it was introduced.
There is only one answer: Ban this bike and any others who would try to imitate it's performance. Luckily, Devin is only one guy so there are not a lot out there. The threat is still manageable. If folks like Specialized, or especially Turner figure this geometry out, these sort of frames will soon be as common as mosquitos. The manliness of the entire 29" movement will be in question. (As if it wasn't already!)
I would dump this thing right now, really, but the mods would be on my back about buying an ad, and honestly, I have to tell you...it's too dangerous to let it fall into the wrong hands. I couldn't live with myself if I knowingly let someone else fall into this. Better to let them ride their Sultans, RIP's, and El Rey's in ignorant, manly bliss.
Seriously, do you work? I am living vicariously through you, I sit at work and look at pictures of you riding! Better that than pictures of you doing something else...
Seriously, do you work? I am living vicariously through you, I sit at work and look at pictures of you riding! Better that than pictures of you doing something else...
LOL...
that is Daley Ranch in Escondildo, CA. yes i do work, but my weekends are MINE! thanks for the compliments on the pics. the wife and i take quite a few. if you like, she posts tons of ride reports on www.socaltrailriders.org (username = allison). she used to post 'em on mtbr (username = aword4you) but she likes the "Thanks" button on STR, lets her know that all the hard work to take, edit, and post pictures is worth it. we also post most of our rides on the calendar on STR, if you are in socal you are welcome to join us!
So I took the Crutchbox out again today, since I didn't really trust my impressions from just one ride. I needed to prove it to myself so to speak.
This time I went on smoother cross country trails where you climb two hours to descend one.
last time I rode these particular trails was 3 weeks ago full rigid SS, and I was worked over. Wanted to simply crawl into bed and be done with the day after the ride. A truly manly ride that beat the crap out of me.
Today: BOOOORRRRRRING. I should have brought a book.
I was so bored watching the scenery and puttering along, I forgot to set a stopwatch time the climb. (It's sort of the thing out here for ya know bragging rights)
I had to pass the time taking photos of scenery since I don't have a photo posse like Mechman and Aqua.
Got to the top and I hardly felt worked over. What a rip off. I started from the flat area photo center.
Descended fast and comfortably in control as opposed to the usual and preferred white knuckle, bone jarring edge of control experience rigid.
Finished the ride and felt...mildly fatigued. Hardly any post ride buzz at all.
The ultimate problem I think is that I am simply riding too much bike for the terrain.
Motorcycles and Quads aren't the only machines that should be banned!
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And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.
Today: BOOOORRRRRRING. I should have brought a book...
I was so bored watching the scenery and puttering along...
Got to the top and I hardly felt worked over. What a rip off...
Motorcycles and Quads aren't the only machines that should be banned!
Wow, sounds like these bikes are really becoming a nuisance on the trail. But there is light at the end of the tunnel my friend... for I just started up a Lunchbox relocation program!!
Here's how it works:
You bring me your boring crutch-of-a-bike, and I'll trade you straight up for one of my more "exciting" offerings. If you act now, I'll even throw in a second one, absolutely free!! But wait, there's more... The first five callers will receive 10lbs of miscellaneous retired parts for no additional charge!!
Isn't it time you give up that buttery smooth monster and come back to a life of white knuckles, compressed spines and missing kneecaps? Don't let this opportunity pass you by. Hurry! This is a limited time offer, so call NOW! Operators are standing by.
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Thread thread has a strong quasi-Craig's List Casual Encounters Man on Man vibe. I digress. As you were.
Awe really, get those eyes checked, I count at least 7
edit added a few loops around the possible candidates just for clarification
[playground taunt song] I didn't get a circle, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah! [/taunt]
Of course, now with my 29er, my belly looks even smaller by comparison. Yet another unheralded 29er advantage
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Awesome pics mechmann, it just so happens i ride alot at Daley w/ my Soma 29er as well. I don't see a whole lot of 29ers riding around Penasquitos Canyon or Mission Trails, maybe I'm in the wrong crowd or something? I heard you have a Lenz, I'd be awesome to see it in person!
[playground taunt song] I didn't get a circle, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah! [/taunt]
Good job, Bob. But then again, neither did LycraFR (far left) and he probably deserved one. No offense Kurt.... just sayin'.
In defense of the Turner boys I've ridden with... most of them still hammer up the hills pretty well despite their,.... ehem, girth. Especially the ones with those Highlines. Cheater bikes I say. They climb almost as good as 29ers .
Hey Enel. Sorry to hear about your disappointment with the 'box. Must be the color. Send it over to me if it's made riding too boring for you. My life has way too much excitement as it is, so that'll be perfect.
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Awesome pics mechmann, it just so happens i ride alot at Daley w/ my Soma 29er as well. I don't see a whole lot of 29ers riding around Penasquitos Canyon or Mission Trails, maybe I'm in the wrong crowd or something? I heard you have a Lenz, I'd be awesome to see it in person!
Good job mech, I was pretty beefy myself, a year ago i weighed max 249 now down to 197. My formula was pretty simple: mtb bike, eggs, fish, chicken, and oatmeal (NO soda, only H2O) from April-Aug 2007 4 days/week. I even have pics but Im afraid to show them. Why can't they have the "The Biggest Loser" show for mtb??? :P
Good job mech, I was pretty beefy myself, a year ago i weighed max 249 now down to 197. My formula was pretty simple: mtb bike, eggs, fish, chicken, and oatmeal (NO soda, only H2O) from April-Aug 2007 4 days/week. I even have pics but Im afraid to show them. Why can't they have the "The Biggest Loser" show for mtb??? :P
losing weight doesn't mean much (although going from 235 to 175 requires all new clothes and stuff). all those miles on the trail with my wife and friends, that is what is cool for me!
losing weight doesn't mean much (although going from 235 to 175 requires all new clothes and stuff). all those miles on the trail with my wife and friends, that is what is cool for me!
Did you do any low-carb diets or anything like that, or was the weight loss purely from riding a bunch?
Did you do any low-carb diets or anything like that, or was the weight loss purely from riding a bunch?
Sorry for the threadjack... NO diets; they fail. We changed our eating habits a lot. Went from eating lunch out 2-3 times a week to eating out maybe once every 2 weeks at most.
Basically healthy cereal breakfast, morning snack of yogurt/fruit, lunch is turkey sandwich and VEGGIES. Snack of fruit. Healthy dinner usually chicken/salad or similar.
We really upped our intake of fruits and veggies and cut out chips, crackers, low-fat cookies, etc. Riding hasn't changed significantly in the past year, it was mostly just diet.
We're gonna be upping the amount of time we spend every week riding hopefully starting after Sea Otter and won't be adding much food to the diets I don't think (maybe a protein shake in the afternoons as fuel for evening rides) so hopefully we can cut a bit more before winter.
I still get an exorbitant amount of carb calories in my diet, but I can't figure out what specifically to cut out:
Apples?
Bananas?
Yogurt?
Whole grain -ish bread?
Pasta plus?
I put honey in my tea, but I am trying to cut down on that. If I was *really* carb conscious I guess I'd also cut out the bread and pasta entirely, but even whole grain/wheat bread and pasta has carbs (nearly the same amount as regular white/enriched).
Yogurt has fruit so that is where most of those carbs are coming from.
Sorry for the threadjack... NO diets; they fail. We changed our eating habits a lot. Went from eating lunch out 2-3 times a week to eating out maybe once every 2 weeks at most.
Basically healthy cereal breakfast, morning snack of yogurt/fruit, lunch is turkey sandwich and VEGGIES. Snack of fruit. Healthy dinner usually chicken/salad or similar.
We really upped our intake of fruits and veggies and cut out chips, crackers, low-fat cookies, etc. Riding hasn't changed significantly in the past year, it was mostly just diet.
We're gonna be upping the amount of time we spend every week riding hopefully starting after Sea Otter and won't be adding much food to the diets I don't think (maybe a protein shake in the afternoons as fuel for evening rides) so hopefully we can cut a bit more before winter.
I still get an exorbitant amount of carb calories in my diet, but I can't figure out what specifically to cut out:
Apples?
Bananas?
Yogurt?
Whole grain -ish bread?
Pasta plus?
I put honey in my tea, but I am trying to cut down on that. If I was *really* carb conscious I guess I'd also cut out the bread and pasta entirely, but even whole grain/wheat bread and pasta has carbs (nearly the same amount as regular white/enriched).
Yogurt has fruit so that is where most of those carbs are coming from.
You may now continue discussing your crutch-bikes
Whoa, so it was mostly from changing the composition of your diet, and not even an increase in exercise. That is so awesome. Well done!
Whoa, so it was mostly from changing the composition of your diet, and not even an increase in exercise. That is so awesome. Well done!
Nat, give it up. She and her husband are seriously pretty elite level both in terms of riding, racing, and general nutrition...something you will never understand. My advice to you is to accept you fat azz and resolve yourself to accepting your many (physical) faults. You are married so frankly why do you even give an F how you look? I guarantee your dimestore hooker cares not what you look like when granting you your weekly golden shower
aword4you's synopsis of success with respect to nutrition requires serious dedication. I would honestly be surprised if most pro athletes are even that regimented. while i am not over weight i have no false perceptions about being able to ride at their level. i am happy that i have any time to ride (though i sure would like to have a taste of their sweet success and just once stand on a podium)
Nat, give it up. She and her husband are seriously pretty elite level both in terms of riding, racing, and general nutrition...something you will never understand. My advice to you is to accept you fat azz and resolve yourself to accepting your many (physical) faults. You are married so frankly why do you even give an F how you look? I guarantee your dimestore hooker cares not what you look like when granting you your weekly golden shower
aword4you's synopsis of success with respect to nutrition requires serious dedication. I would honestly be surprised if most pro athletes are even that regimented. while i am not over weight i have no false perceptions about being able to ride at their level. i am happy that i have any time to ride (though i sure would like to have a taste of their sweet success and just once stand on a podium)
LOL... i think you have to show up to a race to stand on the podium... could be wrong. i wouldn't call either of us elite. maybe my big head has given you the wrong impression? the nutrition things do require some level of dedication, but so do most things that are worth doing! we really need to ride together some time. maybe burner can talk you into dusting off your bike and hitting the trails with us?
LOL... i think you have to show up to a race to stand on the podium... could be wrong. i wouldn't call either of us elite. maybe my big head has given you the wrong impression? the nutrition things do require some level of dedication, but so do most things that are worth doing! we really need to ride together some time. maybe burner can talk you into dusting off your bike and hitting the trails with us?
i am just hitting the trails after 2 months with zero so in a few weeks i may tag a long indeed
Nat, give it up. She and her husband are seriously pretty elite level both in terms of riding, racing, and general nutrition...something you will never understand. My advice to you is to accept you fat azz and resolve yourself to accepting your many (physical) faults. You are married so frankly why do you even give an F how you look? I guarantee your dimestore hooker cares not what you look like when granting you your weekly golden shower
aword4you's synopsis of success with respect to nutrition requires serious dedication. I would honestly be surprised if most pro athletes are even that regimented. while i am not over weight i have no false perceptions about being able to ride at their level. i am happy that i have any time to ride (though i sure would like to have a taste of their sweet success and just once stand on a podium)
Quote"Yawn. No one here is listening. They're too busy arguing fork/seatpost offset or trying to decide on the color scheme for their Fly9 wheels. Or panicking if they can't get the right tiluminum bolt kit. People here don't actually ride bikes, at least not most of them. Stop messing with their heads--it'll only confuse 'em..."
Maybe no one is listening because it gets old, to see clips of riders doing 2 feet drops on 5K bikes , while youtube is full of guys doing 6- or 10 ft drops on BMX bikes.
Maybe no one is listening because it gets old, to see clips of riders doing 2 feet drops on 5K bikes , while youtube is full of guys doing 6- or 10 ft drops on BMX bikes.
that's where Aqua hangs out and trolls with statements like that 
Wb
). He realized that going fast wasn't nearly as desirable as having fun.
)
Please kill me now. Yes, the constant drama is rubbing off on me. 
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