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03-25-2008
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2009 Moment?
Anyone know what will be different on the next generation Moment?
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03-25-2008
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I don't know, but I'd like to speculate.
Hopefully a 1.5 HT.
Larger Seat tube.
More travel (6.5")
Lower leverage ratio
More color options
More shock options
Room for 650B tires.
Anything else?
Oh ya and make it cheaper.
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03-25-2008
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Dang Timberrr.... have you ever drawn anything? You might have a future in design...
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03-25-2008
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Use to be quite the artist back in the day. It would be a dream come true to design bikes.
Any insider news for us Rogue RDR?
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03-25-2008
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uhhmm hummmm ((uncomfortable throat clear)). errrrr, well, um, I have no idea what you are talking about...
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03-25-2008
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I am sure that Ellsworth is going to release totally new frame.Hopefully it does not remind Nomad....
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03-26-2008
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Originally Posted by Rogue Rider x
uhhmm hummmm ((uncomfortable throat clear)). errrrr, well, um, I have no idea what you are talking about...
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You SOOOOOOO know something!!! Hints?!?!? Can you address my list (see above)?
We'll be your best friends 
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03-26-2008
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Timberrr, are you in Holand? If you were in Cali for Sea Otter I would certainly be able to schedule you in for a test ride of the new Moment ...
.... did I just really write that??
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03-26-2008
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Originally Posted by Rogue Rider x
Timberrr, are you in Holand? If you were in Cali for Sea Otter I would certainly be able to schedule you in for a test ride of the new Moment ...
.... did I just really write that??
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Holand? Like Amsterdam. That would be sweet.
When is the Otter? When will the new moments be available. I know I'm asking too much. Doesn't hurt to try.
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03-26-2008
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Timberrrrr, I read your profile and it listed Nederland as your home town. I thought that was the Netherlands, but then again I am pretty geographically challenged...
The Sea Otter Classic is Apr 17 - 20 in Monterey, CA. http://www.seaotterclassic.com/
We will have a batch of the New Moments there, then all we have to do is reduce lead times so all are happy. Easy, right?
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03-26-2008
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New one ? I have an 08 that am waiting for , should I hold out for a newer one ?  |
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03-26-2008
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Nederland colorado. West of Boulder in the mountains. Lot's of great ridin in the area.
Drop a line if you are ever in the area. I can show you some of the stash rides. Popular ones too.
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03-26-2008
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Jaydg, we have been out of stock for a while now on '07 Moments. All the backordered Moments will receive the '08 Moment. What IBD are you working with?
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03-26-2008
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RRX. Do you mean that all recently and backordered moments will be the new generation (2009)?
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03-26-2008
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I KNEW you were gonna get me in trouble, Timberrr. OK, remember, the sales geeks have all the answers, not me. They leave me out of the loop all the time. A little buz about a new generation is fun, and all consumers deserve to make a well informed decision.
If you are in the market for a MTB in the Moment class [which I personally believe is one of the most versatile, efficient and sexy machines around], you may want to consider waiting and seeing what gets launched at Sea Otter. If you already have a Moment order pending [which typically involves a deposit], I would contact your IBD for an update.
Please dont flame me too soon with all the tech stuff -- I only started this MTBR thing a couple of weeks ago!
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03-26-2008
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Sorry to put you on the spot RRX. I'll give your sales guys a ring for more info.
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03-27-2008
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Originally Posted by Rogue Rider x
Jaydg, we have been out of stock for a while now on '07 Moments. All the backordered Moments will receive the '08 Moment. What IBD are you working with?
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I deal with the Philippine Distributor , SABAK . Supposedly a large smoke one is on its way . |
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03-27-2008
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Originally Posted by Rogue Rider x
I KNEW you were gonna get me in trouble, Timberrr. OK, remember, the sales geeks have all the answers, not me. They leave me out of the loop all the time. A little buz about a new generation is fun, and all consumers deserve to make a well informed decision.
If you are in the market for a MTB in the Moment class [which I personally belive is one of the most versatile, efficient and sexy machines around], you may want to consider waiting and seeing what gets launched at Sea Otter. If you already have a Moment order pending [which typically involves a deposit], I would contact your IBD for an update.
Please dont flame me too soon with all the tech stuff -- I only started this MTBR thing a couple of weeks ago!
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Does that mean all Moments that are out now are going to be different after the sea otter launch ? |
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04-04-2008
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Originally Posted by Rogue Rider x
Jaydg, we have been out of stock for a while now on '07 Moments. All the backordered Moments will receive the '08 Moment. What IBD are you working with?
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i have an '08 on order, and the shop guys told me this was the first '08 to be shipped. dont know how that can be true, seeing that it is april, but maybe they mean the '09? i will need to verify. las vegas cyclery. |
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04-04-2008
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Originally Posted by RosedaleReaper
i have an '08 on order, and the shop guys told me this was the first '08 to be shipped. dont know how that can be true, seeing that it is april, but maybe they mean the '09? i will need to verify. las vegas cyclery.
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Hi,
I got my 08 Moment end of February.... so it is sure that yours is not the first to be shipped.... maybe 09? but it is too early for 09 release?!?
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04-04-2008
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Hi,
I got my 08 Moment end of February.... so it is sure that yours is not the first to be shipped.... maybe 09? but it is too early for 09 release?!?
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I don't know that Ellsworth is actually labeling the new model an '09. I was told it is the Generation III.
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04-05-2008
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Ells does not have model years, but rather just models. The year it was manufactured is tracked for reference and warranty purposes. Some models have running versions or revisions, such as is the case with the Moment. The current Moment is "Rev 2" - a reference that is used internally.
Soooo.... "Rev 3"...... ???
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04-05-2008
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When is the new Epiphany due??
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04-06-2008
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When is the new Epiphany due??
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I'd rathe see the Rogue get some updates. 1.5 HT to start.
Realistically though I think the EPI will get it before the Rogue. Soon after the Moment.
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04-06-2008
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Perhaps Ellsworth will go Faux Bar? Seems to be a superior design now suddenly??? 
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04-06-2008
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Hi,
I got my 08 Moment end of February.... so it is sure that yours is not the first to be shipped.... maybe 09? but it is too early for 09 release?!?
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makes sense. doubt they are giving up the horst link, but the rocker arms? i know they work well, the "true four bar", but i have never been a fan of the visual impact of that design. i would gladly give up my idea of ugly for an enhanced riding experience; how long does one have to wait to find out? if it is a new generation, "radical" new design, i may not have access to one for god knows when....
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04-07-2008
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04-07-2008
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Originally Posted by Zakster
Perhaps Ellsworth will go Faux Bar? Seems to be a superior design now suddenly???
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Turners TNT is one hell of a nice ride. Don't knock it till you've tryed it.
I grabbed a good handful of brake on a rocky DH and if there was any brake jack I couldn't feel or notice it.
Ells and Turner both make fantastic bikes IMO.
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04-08-2008
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rogue, you can be as vague as you need to be. i just want one little tidbit; what is the general feeling for the "rev3" moment? the prototypes have seen a lot of dirt.
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04-08-2008
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2009? Its April  its April 2008. Whats wrong with you people, go ride 
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04-08-2008
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Hey Zeb,
I hope this attached image isn't in any way related to the fabled '09 Moment!?...it's a bit fugly
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04-08-2008
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rogue, you can be as vague as you need to be. i just want one little tidbit; what is the general feeling for the "rev3" moment? the prototypes have seen a lot of dirt.
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Testing was done overseas. Europe I think.
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04-11-2008
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I got your testing right here...
.... notice anything? The Moment Rev2 is black...
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04-11-2008
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Lets see the rest RRX. Don't be such a tease.
I was told the rockers are new and mount to the inside of the seatstay.
Lets see it all DEWD!!!
PLEASE!
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.... or how 'bout this one ...
... notice anything here????
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04-11-2008
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More!!!!!!!!!!
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04-11-2008
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wha?...
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Lets see the rest RRX. Don't be such a tease.
I was told the rockers are new and mount to the inside of the seatstay.
Lets see it all DEWD!!!
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... thats crazy talk....
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04-11-2008
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... unless you meant...
... this...
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Thats what I'm talking about!!!
How about a whole side shot.
Moment is looking good!!!
(is the seat tube the same size as previous versions? 27.2 seatpost? Also what kind of tire clearance out back? )
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ignore
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Last edited by Rogue Rider x : 04-11-2008 at 10:08 PM.
Reason: .. one step too far...
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04-11-2008
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soft porn tease.....
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RRX-
Crankbros has the rights to Maverick posts now.. Are we gonna be able to use one or what??
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04-11-2008
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Crankbros has the rights to Maverick posts now.. Are we gonna be able to use one or what??
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Kinda hard to tell but in the first photo it looks like the seat tube still uses the 27.2 post. If memory serves the speedbal/crankbros doesn't make them that small. 
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Kinda hard to tell but in the first photo it looks like the seat tube still uses the 27.2 post. If thats the case I don't think so. If memory serves the speedbal/crankbros doesn't make them that small. |
The Crankbros new 'Joplin' comes in 30.9 and 31.6 w/lever or a remote.
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The Crankbros new 'Joplin' comes in 30.9 and 31.6 w/lever or a remote.
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Yeah I feel your pain. I was tryin to get a Rase seatpost, but, uh, they dont make the 27.2 either. I think they have on on the drawing board tho.
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04-12-2008
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 WOW!
So RRX, since you're let'n the cat outa the bag here, do you mind letting us know rear travel, frame weight, and head angle??
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MORE RRX!!!!
Pretty please w/sugar on top.
More info/pics.
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WOW!
So RRX, since you're let'n the cat outa the bag here, do you mind letting us know rear travel, frame weight, and head angle?? |
Let the cat out of the bag.
This is torture. 
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Timberrrr youre too funny. As far as any specs go, Im the wrong guy. I just know what looks sexy, so I had to smuggle those pics. I'm pretty sure there is a press party at the Sea Otter Classic on Fri 4/18 after noon sometime.
Did you see all the curves? Not a round or straight tube to be found. The downtube is unbelievable, and the toptube...
How in the heck the aluminum bending / welding / skulpting Shamen at the Ells skunkworks in Washington did this is beyond me...
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04-12-2008
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Wonder how will the bearings last inside of seatstay?
Damned, the front reminds me of Nomad,wish i can get over it.
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