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12-22-2006
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the lighter the better;)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,163
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TOKEN Carbon Fork: 447g
i also got some sweet TOKEN carbon forks today. just last week i presented the Ritchey Carbon fork in detail:
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=252695
now it's the almost identical Token. "almost" because the Token i have here is Disc-only and the Ritchey was Disc/V-brake. other than that the forks are 100% identical. but the Token is lighter 
weight of the disc-only version with uncut 300mm steerer: 447g
shortened to 175mm: 407,7g
lenght: 41cm
max. tire width: 60mm
original Expander: 25g
i already did a 1,5 hour ride today but a comparison to the other "Pace-like" carbon fork i used before is difficult: just over the last 2 days the trails got completely frozen over here in Switzerland! 2 days ago everything was still soft and pretty muddy, but now it's all bonehard and frozen. so a direct comparison is really difficult. only in the few leftover parts where trails weren't completely frozen yet i could compare it and it felt almost similar to the other fork. also having a bit of comfort. but now a meaty front tire would help big time since all irregularities get transerred unfiltered directly into the hands...the 1,8" Nobby Nics don't help much  but i really like the shorter lenght and little weight. this was felt immediately. the steering became alive! what a difference to the 440mm long fork it replaced. the bike now feels nimble and reacts very instantly to every input. it almost feels as light as my Scale which i also ride with a shortish 63mm SID. i really like "nervous", lively steering bikes. i also liked the lower handlebar position and will have to correct the saddle position as well since seat angle was changed as well.
anyway - i finally bought a lighter fork as well so once again i should have followed my rule: always invest in the best possible right away rather than spend twice the money when you have to upgrade later...
my winterbike now sits at 7,68 kilo / 15,4 lbs - not bad considering the many used taiwan parts 
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12-22-2006
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mtbr member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 159
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Nice
Nice forks, look a bit like my winwoods, but much cleaner without the crappy v-brake mounts.
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12-22-2006
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mtbr member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 781
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How much do you weigh?
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12-22-2006
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the lighter the better;)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,163
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Originally Posted by fanghasyou
How much do you weigh?
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i'm 155 lbs.
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12-23-2006
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mtbr member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 508
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Do you know if they might be making a longer one?
It would be pretty on the front of my 29er single. I need at least 460mm
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12-23-2006
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mtbr member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 802
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Yeah, it would be awesome if Token / Ritchey would do a 29er version. 29ers are where you can actually use rigid forks for racing.
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12-23-2006
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#7
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Time to go farther
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,279
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Token/Trigon
Are they the same? Who sells the Token in the US and how much?
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12-24-2006
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Recovering couch patato
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,868
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That's scary light...and I thought 600g was light for a cyclo-cross fork...
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12-24-2006
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the lighter the better;)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,163
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scary indeed...
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Originally Posted by Cloxxki
That's scary light...and I thought 600g was light for a cyclo-cross fork...
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not too many years ago 400g was considered light for a road-fork. i remember my Scott carbon fork of 2003 which weighed 350g...
but riding the Token i have to say it feels pretty solid. maybe also because of the shorter legs there seems to be less flex in it than the "pace look-a-like" fork it replaced.
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12-24-2006
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Time to go farther
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,279
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nino
I asked you a question here and sent a PM. Did it go through?
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01-14-2007
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mtbr member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 22
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I just installed one of nino's Token forks. The cut weight is 411 grams (18.5" frame); 419 with Chris King ti base plate. The Wound-up fork previously on the bike weighs 624 grams (with a stainless steel ck base plate).
I like it .
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01-14-2007
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the lighter the better;)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,163
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what a nice bike!!!
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Originally Posted by ☻☻☻
I just installed one of nino's Token forks. The cut weight is 411 grams (18.5" frame); 419 with Chris King ti base plate. The Wound-up fork previously on the bike weighs 624 grams (with a stainless steel ck base plate).
I like it .
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David,
your bike looks awesome. congratulations!!!
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