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Old 06-28-2006   #1
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Jamis 29er revealed!!

Jamis Bicycles will be unviling the entire 2007 product line on August 7th. Rumor has it there will be 29er/s introduced as well as new carbon fiber bikes.
Stay tuned.
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Old 06-28-2006   #2
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Dude, please post more info as soon as you have it! I'm not sure if I can wait until August. Thoughts of 853 or 631 steel in a complete package...mmmmm! OK, I need to settle down.
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Old 06-28-2006   #3
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Jamis 29er

I can tell you there will be more than one. Details on material or prices have not been released yet. Will keep posting as info becomes available.
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Old 06-29-2006   #4
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Old 08-09-2006   #5
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631 steel:

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Old 08-09-2006   #6
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Old 08-09-2006   #7
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Yes! Now for more info about them?
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It appears that you could go gearie on the SS

Looks like cable stops and derailluer hangar are there, along with the track ends. Must be a slotted caliper mount like a Karate Monkey?
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Old 08-09-2006   #9
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Gears

Looks like the geared bike is built around the Tora fork. Price point should be close to the GF Cobia?
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Old 08-09-2006   #10
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I was just thinking that we don't have enough choices for rigid singlespeed 29ers. They're so soulful!

YES WE ALL HAVE ONE ALREADY, SOMEBODY MAKE A DAMN ALL-MOUNTAIN BIKE! Sheesh.
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Old 08-09-2006   #11
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My goodness is that a long AC. Is the pic a little compressed L-R?
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Old 08-10-2006   #12
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For all of you that have had doubts about whether or not the NJ could ever, ever be cool, the fact that both major bike manufactures in NJ (Jamis & Van Dessel) both make a variety of 29er models should change some opinions. We might be a geologically and topigraphically challenged people as mountain biking goes, but at least we're on the forefront of the 29er movement.
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Old 08-10-2006   #13
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For all of you that have had doubts about whether or not the NJ could ever, ever be cool, the fact that both major bike manufactures in NJ (Jamis & Van Dessel) both make a variety of 29er models. We might be a geologically and topigraphically challenged people as mountain biking goes, but at least we're on the forefront of the 29er movement.

I think what Jamis did was great by building a mid level geared bike. Hopefully it will appeal to more riders on a budget that do not want to build their own bikes. I am curious on how they will market it.
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Old 08-10-2006   #14
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FWIW- in the Jamis forum, rvandevur (sp?) is the company rep that replies when necessary- so this is a real post.
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Old 08-10-2006   #15
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For all of you that have had doubts about whether or not the NJ could ever, ever be cool, the fact that both major bike manufactures in NJ (Jamis & Van Dessel) both make a variety of 29er models. We might be a geologically and topigraphically challenged people as mountain biking goes, but at least we're on the forefront of the 29er movement.

You've also got Diablo for the DH/FR crowd.
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Old 08-10-2006   #16
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Interesting. I had some early teaser info from my rep that the steel would be 953 for both, as in Stainless, mmmmmm= This may have changed, and it looks like the geary is alloy, so, any info on material? Nice looking bikes, looking forward to moving a few!!
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Old 08-10-2006   #17
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Oh, how I loved my old Dakota. Please tell me they are not going to spec it with a POS Tora.

Just get a Reba Race on there and represent as the top notch value brand Jamis is por favor!
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Old 08-10-2006   #18
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Reports on the Tora contradict your POS label. I understood it rides like a heavier, stiffer Reba.
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Old 08-10-2006   #19
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I just busted my tora......... Its at Sram now getting fixed.. I wouldn't buy another one. I didnt even have it that long. Hopefully it will get fixed fast I mis my bike.
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Old 08-11-2006   #20
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I'm diggin' the steel ss, but I kinda wish the geared model had the same frame.
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Old 08-14-2006   #21
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i agree, geared model should be steel as well.
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Old 08-14-2006   #22
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Actually....

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Reports on the Tora contradict your POS label. I understood it rides like a heavier, stiffer Reba.

That's exactly what it is. The TORA is a REBA with steel upper tubes. Same internals, lowers, etc.

It's 1/2 lb heavier, but with stiffer, smoother feeling travel. Everyone I've known riding them, loves them.

Jeez...One thread we have people begging for cheaper stuff, another thread we have people calling good stuff crap just because it's cheaper.
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Old 08-14-2006   #23
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Jeez...One thread we have people begging for cheaper stuff, another thread we have people calling good stuff crap just because it's cheaper.
Welcome to the 29er board! Where folks ask for stuff, finally get it, then nitpick it to death.
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Old 08-14-2006   #24
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that ss frame and fork is hott. anyone hear prices?

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I don't care if jesus juice is made in New Jersey ........ place still sucks !
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Old 08-15-2006   #26
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Just received word from a buddy who works at a shop that sells Jamis. The Steel bike is the 2007 Exile and it will be able to be run as a SS or geared - for those wondering. I guess it is a pretty cool dropout system to allow the conversion from one to the other too.
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Just received word from a buddy who works at a shop that sells Jamis. The Steel bike is the 2007 Exile and it will be able to be run as a SS or geared - for those wondering. I guess it is a pretty cool dropout system to allow the conversion from one to the other too.
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Just received word from a buddy who works at a shop that sells Jamis. The Steel bike is the 2007 Exile and it will be able to be run as a SS or geared - for those wondering. I guess it is a pretty cool dropout system to allow the conversion from one to the other too.


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Old 08-15-2006   #29
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He's checking into that for me today. I'd say around a grand though as my best guess.
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Old 08-15-2006   #30
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is it going to be available in a frame and fork setup or only complete bike?
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Old 08-25-2006   #31
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Prices

Local shop has a Product Manual for Jamis 2007 bikes:

SS will be $1000

Geared will be $1700

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Old 08-25-2006   #32
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$1700 for that Dakota? Wow that seems overpriced.
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Old 08-26-2006   #33
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Agreed. If they had a "Dragon" model with a Reba Race, maybe, but you can get the Fisher with better parts for the same or less.

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Old 08-26-2006   #34
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If they had a "Dragon" 29" model, my search for a new ride would be over. Until then, the search continues...
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Agreed. If they had a "Dragon" model with a Reba Race, maybe, but you can get the Fisher with better parts for the same or less.


which seems odd since Jamis bikes are usually a pretty darn good deal compared to most other manufacturers.
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Exactly, they've always been at the top of the value chain. The Tora is just such a POS. If not a Race, at least spec a SL on there.

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Local shop has a Product Manual for Jamis 2007 bikes:

SS will be $1000

Geared will be $1700

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With pricing like that, it's almost like someone at Jamis wants the 29"ers to not sell and fail in the marketplace.
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Exactly, they've always been at the top of the value chain. The Tora is just such a POS. If not a Race, at least spec a SL on there.

Soupboy, why do you keep saying that the Tora is such a POS? Have you ridden one? Are you familiar with the actual differences between the Tora and Reba?
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Soupboy, why do you keep saying that the Tora is such a POS? Have you ridden one? Are you familiar with the actual differences between the Tora and Reba?

I've wondered myself what the difference is. I thought the only difference was the Tora has steel stantion and steerer tubes, while the Reba has aluminum, but I'm not sure.

Does anyone know for sure what the differences are?
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anyone have a parts list for the jamis SS yet? $1000 might not be so bad with better parts...
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Old 08-28-2006   #41
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found it myself

$1280 CAD retail

mostly easton 30, WTB saddle, hayes sole, not 100% sure on the wheels, and claimed weight is #25.
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Old 09-07-2006   #42
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and have started to get parts to make it lighter, a LOT lighter

I've started with AC classic 29 disc wheels at 1600g and a AM headset at 69g.

will be ordering a syntace force 99 stem and flat bar with 9' sweep at 119g.

light post and saddle are next, then crank and BB.

wonder what the bike will go down to on a diet?
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Local shop has a Product Manual for Jamis 2007 bikes:

SS will be $1000

Geared will be $1700

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That pricing seems very un-Jamis.

There are more differences than just the steel stanchions inregards to the Tora versus Reba. The Tora is solo air, the Reba is dual air with separate inflation valves for tuning. The Tora does not have adjustable Floodgate, it's factory preset, where as the Reba is adjustable (controls how locked the lockout feels).
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Soupboy, why do you keep saying that the Tora is such a POS? Have you ridden one? Are you familiar with the actual differences between the Tora and Reba?

I have a Tora Solo air SL and it has an Alum. Steerer with Cromo stanchions. No ext. flood gate control...just internal.
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The Tora is not a terrible fork.

Motion Control rocks.

True it's not as adjustable as the Reba, but it has everything a rider needs for daily fun. A racer it is not, but a good fork it is.
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I agree. For the price, it can't be beat. Granted it's not my Vanilla, but what fork in that range is, and who really expects it to be anyway?

Good entry level fork. I say entry level because I don't even consider the Judy or Dart and entry level fork...I consider them on par with WalMart.
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So... anybody got the specs on the 29er singlespeed Exile? I'm looking at this and a Kona Unit 29er. When will the Jamis become available?
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