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    MVB - January 2009 - Ritchey 1986-1990

    Here it is - and sorry for the delay. I am in the land of the Rising Sun (and land of little internet access). This is the first of the MVB contests. The category is very tight to focus your minds. I know that there are still a lot of neat bikes in the range and can't wait to see what shakes out. Voting will start after the 20th. So, let's see those Ritcheys. One bike limit per poster!

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    1990 Ritchey P-23

    I think I'll get blown out of the water, but here we go.

    1990 Ritchey P-23.

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    And it is on...!

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    At this rate I'm a shoe in to win.
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    well, this isn't my bike (it's kb11's 1990 P-23), but I've always taken a shining to it, so thought I'd nominate it nonetheless. something about the tig welded P-23s that strike my fancy.


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    '86 timberwolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollister
    '86 timberwolf
    it needs a better picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    it needs a better picture.
    I'm out


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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    it needs a better picture.
    LOL!

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    1987 SuperComp

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    '86?!?!

    That keeps a good amount of prized Ritcheys out of the running...

    Oh well.

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    Rumpfy. What kind of dropouts does this frameset have?

    [QUOTE=Rumpfy]I think I'll get blown out of the water, but here we go.

    1990 Ritchey P-23.

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    [QUOTE=ckevlar]Rumpfy. What kind of dropouts does this frameset have?


    My '90 P-23 has Suntour dropouts Ritchey Logic dropouts became available in '91
    Last edited by kb11; 01-07-2009 at 01:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdangerpants
    well, this isn't my bike (it's kb11's 1990 P-23), but I've always taken a shining to it, so thought I'd nominate it nonetheless. something about the tig welded P-23s that strike my fancy.


    Nice bike Actually this is my #1 rider, it will be at Keysville this year. Does this mean I can enter another Ritchey?
    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckevlar
    Rumpfy. What kind of dropouts does this frameset have?
    I'll have to check, but I would guess the same as KB11's.
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    Well, I would think he should be able to choose which of his bikes to submit. Otherwise, a person could just nominate somebody's lower end bike to preclude him from submitting his nice one....which would be evil and also very clever. Mwah ha ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgirlonbike
    Well, I would think he should be able to choose which of his bikes to submit. Otherwise, a person could just nominate somebody's lower end bike to preclude him from submitting his nice one....which would be evil and also very clever. Mwah ha ha!
    So in other words, no nominations, only owners can submit. Makes sense to to me but where is it written in the rules???? BP ?
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    Well, I would think somebody could nominate but the owner should be able to chose if that is the bike he or she would like entered.

    Are there rules? He'll be back to the grind soon.... poor guy.

    Hey, Stuart, do you want me to break into your house with my camera and submit something for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgirlonbike
    Well, I would think somebody could nominate but the owner should be able to chose if that is the bike he or she would like entered.

    Are there rules? He'll be back to the grind soon.... poor guy.

    Hey, Stuart, do you want me to break into your house with my camera and submit something for you?

    LOL!


    And yeah, NG will be back to clarify a bit I'm sure.
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    1988 TimberComp. I know she doesn't rank with the rest posted here, but at least she's clean and fits in the category.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I think I'll get blown out of the water, but here we go.

    1990 Ritchey P-23.

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    The black XT hubs should count for something?! Sweets rides so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I think I'll get blown out of the water, but here we go.

    1990 Ritchey P-23.

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    We weighed this bike at Keyesville and it's actually a P-25 by weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    We weighed this bike at Keyesville and it's actually a P-25 by weight.
    it's a fake.
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    you forget

    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    it's a fake.
    it's from Marin the 90s

    guy doing the decals was prolly high

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    We weighed this bike at Keyesville and it's actually a P-25 by weight.

    Oof. Ya. I could shave weight with a saddle swap and ditch the thick tubes and those heavy ass 2.35 tires. A few other smart changes and I'd be back in the 23lb range.

    And also its a Trek Antelope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Oof. Ya. I could shave weight with a saddle swap and ditch the thick tubes and those heavy ass 2.35 tires. A few other smart changes and I'd be back in the 23lb range.
    Isn't that pretty much what Tom did to make the P-23?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upchuck
    1988 TimberComp. I know she doesn't rank with the rest posted here, but at least she's clean and fits in the category.





    I will vote for it based on name alone unless Jeff posts his purple one beacause it is just amazing...then agian if I was him I would post his Annapurna

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    i will vote for a ritchey w/ spinnergies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I think I'll get blown out of the water
    Deservidly so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'll have to check, but I would guess the same as KB11's.
    For being a VRC God you shouldn't have to look... you must be paying other people to work on your bikes?
    Needed: 26.8mm XTR seatpost, blue GT/Grundig Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    For being a VRC God you shouldn't have to look... you must be paying other people to work on your bikes?
    paid?!
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    Some nice entries but let's see some more. I have one coming this weekend. And yea, if you don't own the bike, it won't get voted on

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    For being a VRC God you shouldn't have to look... you must be paying other people to work on your bikes?

    I have my own personal mechanic. He's my b!tch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I have my own personal mechanic. He's my b!tch.

    "Bring out the Gimp"

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    [QUOTE=kb11]
    Quote Originally Posted by ckevlar
    Rumpfy. What kind of dropouts does this frameset have?


    My '90 P-23 has Suntour dropouts Ritchey Logic dropouts became available in '91
    Your Ritchey P-23 doesn't appear to have been in any mountain bike races or anything mountain biking? Or, are you wanting to keep that bike in mint condition? It looks mint for sure!

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    Here's my '86 Team Comp. It was build for Blackburn to use at a trade show in NYC, and was used to display their racks. I picked it up because it (a) it was cool, and (b) I wanted a bike for touring, and the full set of rack braze-ons made this frame perfect. Supposedly it was the only Team Comp frame ever painted white (red was standard, and there are a few pink ones), and was one of the very last Team Comps made.

    Best pic that I have:

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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux

    <img src="http://www.oldmountainbikes.com/bikes/pics/1C85/123_2334.JPG" height="768" width="1024">

    Very pretty bike.

    CRC, yours has always been a favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    Very pretty bike.

    CRC, yours has always been a favorite.
    it looks RIGHT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    it looks RIGHT.

    Thats because I'm an Artist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    CRC, yours has always been a favorite.
    Thanks, that's quite a compliment....



    When I look thru all these bikes I see LOTS and LOTS of bikes that are just outstanding. To be honest, the build and quality of detail on ALL these bikes is impressive. I would have a hard time picking a bike above all the others......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upchuck
    1988 TimberComp. I know she doesn't rank with the rest posted here,
    I think it ranks right up there , that bike is perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    When I look thru all these bikes I see LOTS and LOTS of bikes that are just outstanding. To be honest, the build and quality of detail on ALL these bikes is impressive. I would have a hard time picking a bike above all the others......
    I agree. Just cuz a bike is mint doesn't make it a winner in my book. It needs to have soul. (And for fuc k's sake, take it out on the dirt once in while. )

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    TimberComp for sure.

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    I guess we'll go with the 1988 Annapurna since there hasn't been one posted yet (and it is one of my favorites).



    fillet brazed stem


    bilaminate lugs with fillet brazing......nice


    and for you WTB fans, 'cams front and rear


    cool seat "lug" area

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    nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    I guess we'll go with the 1988 Annapurna since there hasn't been one posted yet (and it is one of my favorites).

    One of my favorite Ritcheys too.. Super nice. I'm a little on the fence about the crank selection for an Annapurna, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    I'm a little on the fence about the crank selection for an Annapurna, though.
    But you're OK with the tire selection.

    Fantastic bike; I'm not sure there is much point in posting my Team or Super Comps now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgirlonbike
    I agree. Just cuz a bike is mint doesn't make it a winner in my book. It needs to have soul. (And for fuc k's sake, take it out on the dirt once in while. )
    In my defense, the pic of my TimberComp was taken right after I finished the build. Since then, it's seen plenty o' trail time. I'd race it at Keyesville but I have my heart set on something else this year.
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    I love those paintjobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    I guess we'll go with the 1988 Annapurna since there hasn't been
    OK, I think we can just end this now ............

    WOW!

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    Annapurna's are just amazing Nice job Jeff/Wes No way to compete with the Annapurna's / Team Comp's and all the other filletbrazed Ritcheys so I'll be posting something alittle different as soon as I get some recent photos, its FB's favorite
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    I guess we'll go with the 1988 Annapurna since there hasn't been one posted yet (and it is one of my favorites).
    Jeff, even though the pics are nice, they do not compare to seeing that bike in person. I think that bike is the nicest one that you guys have in your collection. The White JPW snow bike is a close second, but not quite as cool as this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgirlonbike

    Hey, Stuart, do you want me to break into your house with my camera and submit something for you?
    The Ritchey is not at my premises at the moment, so it would be for not. It's at Skunkwerks gett'n some stuff done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    The Ritchey is not at my premises at the moment, so it would be for not. It's at Skunkwerks gett'n some stuff done.
    Ya, I hear it getting Lockheed's special "INVISIBLE" paint job

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    [QUOTE=First Flight]I guess we'll go with the 1988 Annapurna since there hasn't been one posted yet (and it is one of my favorites).

    All I can saw is WOW! I hope I can sell a lot of cabinets this year, because my "wanted" bike list is getting longer everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    One of my favorite Ritcheys too.. Super nice. I'm a little on the fence about the crank selection for an Annapurna, though.
    Not my favorite part either. I think it is too bulky looking for the rest of the bike (especially being black) but it is what was on it from day 1 so I hesitate to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    Ya, I hear it getting Lockheed's special "INVISIBLE" paint job
    heh!

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    Canadian Annapurna

    Seeing as how FFB's Annapurna is gonna win this one I thought I'd post a Canadian Annapurna
    At least thats what FB calls it. Basically like the '86 Ascent
    with lugs. see: http://www.oldmountainbikes.com/cgi-...i?bike=6D00168
    Here's some info on the lugged bikes from "Oldmountainbikes.com"

    "Ritchey frames that are built using lugged construction were built in Japan
    by Toyo and imported into Canada by Rocky Mountain Bicycles. These frame were
    produced in the time period just after Tom Ritchey and Gary Fisher ended their
    working relationship with each other. Tom, in search of a new distributor for
    his bikes, contacted Rocky Mountain who offered to sell whatever he could produce.
    Tube sets went to Toyo, who only built lugged frames, and completed Ritchey
    bikes were sent to Canada. At roughly this same time other Japanese-made Ritchey
    frames were being imported into the US, however these were TIG-welded."



    No fake lugs here, its the real deal



    These bikes had a RockyMountain decal added and a peaked seat tube

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    how about a clean P-23? this is not restored condition, this is original condition.

    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vdubbusrider/Ritchey%20P23/1.jpg">
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    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vdubbusrider/Ritchey%20P23/5.jpg">
    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vdubbusrider/Ritchey%20P23/8.jpg">
    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vdubbusrider/Ritchey%20P23/7.jpg">
    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vdubbusrider/Ritchey%20P23/12.jpg">
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    1989 SuperComp

    Really nice bikes...all of them. They are nice to see.

    Here is another one to look at.

    Its history; I have owned it since new, unrestored, nearly 100% original (the tyres were changed and shark fin added, both in 1989)...but I have original tyres. Serial number 9C155

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    Some nice contenders!

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    Guess I'll have to save my '90 P-23 Team for another month

    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    make me want

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    to go Salmon Fishing

    de_lovely

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    Guess I'll have to save my '90 P-23 Team for another month

    I still look up at the empty hook where that bike was supposed to hang sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    I still look up at the empty hook where that bike was supposed to hang sometimes.
    And it rides as nice as it looks
    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    [QUOTE=laffeaux]Here's my '86 Team Comp. It was build for Blackburn to use at a trade show in NYC, and was used to display their racks. I picked it up because it (a) it was cool, and (b) I wanted a bike for touring, and the full set of rack braze-ons made this frame perfect. Supposedly it was the only Team Comp frame ever painted white (red was standard, and there are a few pink ones), and was one of the very last Team Comps made.

    The White Team Comp's were possibly reserved for friends of Tom's(Eric Heiden, Dave Maclaughlin, Rod (?) Sterling Mcbride, had white team comp's) I also had one for racing and it's the one I'm pictured with on the cover of 89 Ritchey catalog.
    I'm just guessing on the reasoning behind the rarity of the white bikes....
    We referred to the white bikes as Moby's, (Melville), cause there weren't too many of e'm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crconsulting
    1987 SuperComp
    I love this bike.

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    here's my Super Comp

    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vdubbusrider/Ritchey%20SC/RitcheySuperComp001.jpg">
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    [QUOTE=Veloculture]here's my Super Comp

    Sweet Have you riden this one Sky? Are you entering this or the P-23?
    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloculture
    how about a clean P-23? this is not restored condition, this is original condition.

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    Sky, please oil that chain!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    Sky, please oil that chain!

    Well, he did say " this is not restored condition, this is original condition" But alittle oil would be nice
    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    Well, he did say " this is not restored condition, this is original condition" But alittle oil would be nice
    everythings OK now guys. don't fret. those photos were taken to show you guys the condition before i went wild on it.

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    im entering both dammit! although that P23 is more special to me because it's SOOO hard finding P series bikes in stellar condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro MB
    Sky, please oil that chain!
    ..or replace it...one can read a newspaper through the teeth on the big ring

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    I'm ready for the official list of competitors and for the voting to begin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    I'm ready for the official list of competitors and for the voting to begin.
    And what about some official rules? , like how many bikes you can enter and how many votes you get
    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    And what about some official rules? , like how many bikes you can enter and how many votes you get
    Thats because Sky is a cheater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    And what about some official rules? , like how many bikes you can enter and how many votes you get
    One bike. I'm not treating the Team Comp as an entry. Three more days left for submissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb11
    And what about some official rules? , like how many bikes you can enter and how many votes you get
    Any kb11, what are you worried about? If your Ascent wins this is the last of these contests!

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    This thread needs a page break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy
    Thats because Sky is a cheater.
    haha, no not cheating. just throwing out more cool Ritcheys for people to see. vote on the P23. just ignore the chain. i just did not take photos since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    Any kb11, what are you worried about? If your Ascent wins this is the last of these contests!
    As there is no model name for this bike, I prefer "Canadian Annapurna"
    "I think it is heavy and often stupid and doesn't work as well as Shimano, but I keep using it. -- NG

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    Quote Originally Posted by pint
    The black XT hubs should count for something?! Sweets rides so far.
    Who needs black hubs for crying out loud I've got six pairs, all in wheels, just sitting here not on bikes. I can't figure out why so many of you think they are so rare.
    Needed: 26.8mm XTR seatpost, blue GT/Grundig Jersey.

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    86? Ultra

    Although this doesn't even begin to compete with some (any ) of the bikes posted here, I'm posting it anyhooo. I'm calling it an '86 because no-one here knew for sure but the evidence pointed that way. XT drivetrain, Matrix Single Track rims with Ritchey Z-Max rubber on Suntour hubs, Avocet seat on a Sakae SuperHard post. I added newer contoured grips just for comfort. Repainted long ago with no decals but I pretty much know the history of the bike and it was/is used for what it was built for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da'HOOV
    Although this doesn't even begin to compete with some (any ) of the bikes posted here, I'm posting it anyhooo. I'm calling it an '86 because no-one here knew for sure but the evidence pointed that way. XT drivetrain, Matrix Single Track rims with Ritchey Z-Max rubber on Suntour hubs, Avocet seat on a Sakae SuperHard post. I added newer contoured grips just for comfort. Repainted long ago with no decals but I pretty much know the history of the bike and it was/is used for what it was built for.

    No Garage Queen here

    Not an Ultra, but which part on there points toward 1986?

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    headset?

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    headset?

    Quote Originally Posted by nipsey
    headset?
    It's an old Shimano 600 with the "scalloped nuts" that nobody has the proper wrenches for

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    Quote Originally Posted by da'HOOV
    It's an old Shimano 600 with the "scalloped nuts" that nobody has the proper wrenches for
    They're actually called keys and I have mine. It's a bummer when I find a bike with a nice 600EX headset and someone's used a pipe or other type of wrench to adjust them and they've ruined it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    They're actually called keys and I have mine. It's a bummer when I find a bike with a nice 600EX headset and someone's used a pipe or other type of wrench to adjust them and they've ruined it.
    And the headset has flats on it so it can be adjusted with a 32mm. Any shop that takes a pipe wrench to one should ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by da'HOOV
    It's an old Shimano 600 with the "scalloped nuts" that nobody has the proper wrenches for
    a standard 32mm headset wrench will work fine.

    Looks like a parts bin build on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fillet-brazed
    a standard 32mm headset wrench will work fine.
    It hurts my feelings that you don't read my posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushpig
    And the headset has flats on it so it can be adjusted with a 32mm. Any shop that takes a pipe wrench to one should ...
    Thanks for the knowledge bp. I just tried a Park 32mm on one of mine and I can still see if someone uses to much force they can still damage it. I've always used the keys.
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    [QUOTE=bushpig]It hurts my feelings that you don't read my posts [/QUOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    Thanks for the knowledge bp. I just tried a Park 32mm on one of mine and I can still see if someone uses to much force they can still damage it. I've always used the keys.

    sorry bp, I guess I'll take you off my ignore list on a trial basis.

    I think you get as much contact with the standard 32mm wrenches on the scalloped headset as you do with a standard headset (you just get the corners anyway), but if you have the shimano scalloped wrenches you can get some serious wrench to nut contact. That's probably why they designed it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YETIFIED
    Thanks for the knowledge bp. I just tried a Park 32mm on one of mine and I can still see if someone uses to much force they can still damage it. I've always used the keys.
    Yeah you need to be careful if you use a standard wrench. Using the "right" tool is a better option, but if you don't own the right tool, use what you've got. (but never a pipe wrench)
    Each bicycle owned exponentially increases the probability that none is working correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da'HOOV
    It's an old Shimano 600 with the "scalloped nuts" that nobody has the proper wrenches for
    Yes, I meant it was maybe the only 1986ish thing on your bike.

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    I didn't say it was an original parts build. I believe the frame is an '86 from what info I've been able to source including the '86 Ritchey catalog scan, info from this site and the second owner (who was friends with the first owner) who sold it to me.

    FB, why are you so sure it's not an Ultra? If you say the peaked seat-tube, look at the '86 catalog photos, it looks peaked there. I haven't been able to verify that but I've seen several angles and I think it is. If you know more, please share as I certainly wouldn't want to misrepresent a bike here.

    Thanx Yetified and laffeaux, the proper wrench IS the right way , FB's "a standard 32mm headset wrench will work fine" is NOT the right answer , it will work but only if you don't care about part damage. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by da'HOOV
    I didn't say it was an original parts build. I believe the frame is an '86 from what info I've been able to source including the '86 Ritchey catalog scan, info from this site and the second owner (who was friends with the first owner) who sold it to me.

    FB, why are you so sure it's not an Ultra? If you say the peaked seat-tube, look at the '86 catalog photos, it looks peaked there. I haven't been able to verify that but I've seen several angles and I think it is. If you know more, please share as I certainly wouldn't want to misrepresent a bike here.
    What is the serial number?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux
    What is the serial number?
    A6B0032...I posted a thread a while back and there was quite a discussion about it...

    '88 Ritchey Ultra or '86 Fat Chance ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by da'HOOV
    A6B0032...I posted a thread a while back and there was quite a discussion about it...

    '88 Ritchey Ultra or '86 Fat Chance ?
    That's right, I remember that bike. My guess is that it's an '86 Ritchey Aspen. The color would be correct for that model, and the serial number points that direction.
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