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    So no, the seller says there is no adapter included. Any tips where I could find one? I order everything at bike-components.de, if I look here: Adapter | Fahrrad Bremsen Zubehr - bike-components, I don't see any PM7 adapters.

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    Thanks, but that one is only for 160/180 discs, I need one for 203mm.
    Will this work? Shimano Scheibenbremsadapter fr 203mm Scheibe gnstig online kaufen - bike-components
    The PM-PM VR (front) one.

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    nope, that one is PM +40

    check these

    Formula HR 7" Postmount 203mm: FD40154-10

    oder von BFO - PM7-Gabel/Rahmen für Scheibe 203

    but the aformentioned Trickstuff adapter will probably work as well. the difference in radius between 200 and 203 is just 1.5mm, in the worst case you would have to put a standard washer under the caliper. in my case it worked fine with a standard +20 adapter with my Formula the one.

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    I don't understand anything about this stuff
    How do you know that the Shimano one is PM +40? What does that even mean!?
    And how do you know the Metric needs the PM +20 adapter?
    The little I can find on the internet is that PM is always 73mm between the two holes, so I don't understand why there are different kinds of PM adapters needed?
    The trickstuff adapter is for 160/180, not for 200, wouldn't that be too big a jump for 203?

    Anyways, I'll probably buy one of the two you now mentioned

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    if the fork has a PM mount for a 180mm rotor and you want an adapter for a 200mm you need a PM +20... it's the same adapter you can use for a 180mm rotor in a PM 160mm mount.

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    A-ha, I found this somewhere on the net:
    PM7 is post mount 7". This means the fork/frame will have the caliper fitted directly for 180mm rotor. It requires an adaptor for 203, but cannot fit a 160 or 140mm rotor.
    Now I understand why I would need a PM +20 mount. But still, I think it's very confusing that the fork manufacter doesn't list this anywhere. Couldn't find it at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfuse View Post
    So no, the seller says there is no adapter included. ...
    Interesting. Got mine through a local shop, pretty sure RCS in B.C. was the distributor (SSteel who posted in the thread earlier.) Got additional guard stickers, star nut, brake adapter, and an X-fusion branded shock pump.

    Edit: All of that was hidden in the box under the cardboard the fork sits on, so maybe they didn't see it, who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfuse View Post
    A-ha, I found this somewhere on the net:


    Now I understand why I would need a PM +20 mount. But still, I think it's very confusing that the fork manufacter doesn't list this anywhere. Couldn't find it at least.
    not confusing at all...

    if you have a fork with PM6 mounts and want to fit a 8" disc you go +40, if the fork has PM7 mounts and you want to fit a 8" disc you go +20, fork with PM8 needs no adapter for 8" disc (as Totem or new Suntour Rux)

    PM6 = 160mm disc
    PM7 = 180mm disc
    PM8 = 200/203mm disc

    @cerebroside

    seeing that dfuse is posting links to a german shop I figure he is in Germany (as I am ^^). The Metric is not to be had here officially and I got mine via "dark channels" there were no accessories whatsoever in the box (except for the stickers...) probably they spec them differently for europe?

    dfuse, where are you buying your Metric?

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    Anyone else had trouble with the brake hose clamp on their Metric? Smashed mine into three pieces on my first ride/crash on them.



    Had a minor crash, bars spun, pulled on the brake hose, and snapped it. It was a bit of a pain to install too, would be easier if the plastic was softer.
    Tried to epoxy it back together, but no go. Hose position puts too much force on it. Guess I'll have to see if they stock replacements.

    Really like the forks otherwise.
    Last edited by cerebroside; 05-06-2014 at 10:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raschaa View Post
    not confusing at all...

    if you have a fork with PM6 mounts and want to fit a 8" disc you go +40, if the fork has PM7 mounts and you want to fit a 8" disc you go +20, fork with PM8 needs no adapter for 8" disc (as Totem or new Suntour Rux)

    PM6 = 160mm disc
    PM7 = 180mm disc
    PM8 = 200/203mm disc

    @cerebroside

    seeing that dfuse is posting links to a german shop I figure he is in Germany (as I am ^^). The Metric is not to be had here officially and I got mine via "dark channels" there were no accessories whatsoever in the box (except for the stickers...) probably they spec them differently for europe?

    dfuse, where are you buying your Metric?
    I rather meant it is annoying that the manufacturer doesn't specify that the fork is PM7. It's by accident that I read it here in this thread.

    I don't live in Germany, but in Belgium bike-components.de is the cheapest store that I know so that's why I order there I'm ordering my Metric with bikesuspension.nl, in the Netherlands. They are exclusive dealer for the Benelux (Belgium-Netherlands-Luxemburg) region. Indeed they also say that only the stickers are included. But I also get a 10% discount so hey

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    The clamp is a POS... I couldn't even fit it with the Formula hose so I just cut off the rear part with some cutters. will probably just make one out of aluminum sooner or later...

    OK, dfuse, so we're neighbors
    I order a lot at bike-components as well, good shop, good prices. does bikesuspension already have Metrics in stock? German distributor has none... but they have excellent prices on the x-fusion stuff they do have in stock, on the average 100 euros below everybody else... (reset-racing.de)

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    The Metrics just came in again they told me, but only the chrome ones. I wanted a black one but wait time was a few months!! They aren't listed on the webshop either, I had to mail them for it. They ask 1075€ for it, but during the month May they give 10% discount on all forks in stock, so I waited a few days before ordering
    Thanks for the tip on reset-racing, I always prefer shopping on German shops as tax is lower than in Belgium

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    I've seen both in person- the chrome ones look really good in real life. I ended up choosing chrome even though I initially thought it'd look tacky just based on the word and internet photos.
    Since when did the phrase "invest in" come to mean the same as "buy"?

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    I really prefered the black to go with my orange Darkside (which I also prefered black but couldn't get either), but hey, maybe I'll like it better once I see it. Most important thing is it performs good.

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    So, turns out there was a brake adapter included after all:
    X-Fusion Metric-imag0427.jpg

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    I emailed Xfusion today asking about availability of the 27.5 metric, this is the response I got:

    We have’t produced any yet and I can’t speculate when we will. At this point we will likely have them for next season.

    Demand has been low so we have’t pulled the trigger on that crown yet.

    Clarke


    So the metrics that are out there have the crown for the 26" with a 42mm offset. I don't know how much difference the 46mm offset makes with the 27.5 wheels but I'm surprised they aren't making them yet.

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    I guess people don't care about 4 mm? That or everyone is putting theirs on park/freeride bikes.

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    Well, I am in the market for a non-Marz 180mm (just to try something different). This has me interested. Found some Metrics at Universal Cycles for 949-15%. Seems they have quite a few.

    Still a bit high for me--I usually get items for much, much less than MSRP. May have to wait for a few years until they are on sale or on ebay. They certainly look tasty.

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    X-Fusion just isn't in the market enough (especially oem) to make aftermarket prices drop to RS levels. There is just so much oem stuff being thrown on the aftermarket (especially RS here in europe) that it is nigh impossible for other manufacturers to compete price wise. By MSRP alone they are competitive, but the big names seem to have no interest in not having oem-parts flooding the aftermarket. Why should they? The sales numbers seem to justify that approach...

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    I contacted 2 x-fusion distributors with regards to the 27.5" version and both errrred on giving me the response you received. They did however say that the current Metric model they had would fit a 27.5" wheel. I replied to each quoting the offset crown discrepancies, neither has chosen to followup with a reply. Quite disappointed that they weren't forthcoming with the info from the start.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottW View Post
    I emailed Xfusion today asking about availability of the 27.5 metric, this is the response I got:

    We have’t produced any yet and I can’t speculate when we will. At this point we will likely have them for next season.

    Demand has been low so we have’t pulled the trigger on that crown yet.

    Clarke


    So the metrics that are out there have the crown for the 26" with a 42mm offset. I don't know how much difference the 46mm offset makes with the 27.5 wheels but I'm surprised they aren't making them yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachem6 View Post
    Does anybody know where to get the Metric? I've looked online to see if any of the online bike shops have them, but haven't seen any yet. And, how much $ are they going for? I would really like one for my 2011 Kona Coilair. I just converted it to 27.5, but it's a little tight in the Lyric.
    are you sold on a metric?

    you can probably find a vengeance for a good deal if you know where to look.. i bought mine for under 300 bones a month ago and my buddy bought his 2-3 months ago for 220. i believe aside from the lowers, there is very little difference.

    still has the same damper/cart as the new forks, which is really good. i am not a fan of the new lowers.

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    As I can't see it in person before buying: how would the Smoked Chrome color match with the common silver ano (say the Thomson silver ano)? If it's a good match i could go with the chrome, but I'm thinking the black matte would be better (I've a black ano frame with silver ano links and components). Thanks

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    X-Fusion Metric

    I say black as its a matt finish and will go well with your frame , heres mine

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    Looks nice! Unfortunately the black seems hard to get

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