X-Fusion Metric

[Deerhill]

4 lbs 14 oz is 2.21 kg

Have any wrench time with RV1 or Metric yet?

[tacubaya]

Have any wrench time with RV1 or Metric yet?

I stopped distributing X-Fusion so my wrench time on newer stuff have decreased dramatically. Anything you are interested in specifically?

[Deerhill]

I stopped distributing X-Fusion so my wrench time on newer stuff have decreased dramatically. Anything you are interested in specifically?

RV1 guts + Metric CSU= Coil Metric?

[seanpatrickb]

Can these be adjusted to 170mm? Looks like you can just use the 170 pin hole for the stock vengeance travel setting.

[Renegade]

I stopped distributing X-Fusion so my wrench time on newer stuff have decreased dramatically. Anything you are interested in specifically?

Does this mean you won`t be posting how great x-fusion products are whenever someone starts an X-fusion thread?
You stopped distributing them? Don`t you mean the shop you worked for stopped distributing them?

[womble]

Have you ever ridden a vengeance? This fork is a couple hundred grams lighter, has 10mm more travel, the same damper and a slightly improved air spring. It should ride almost identical to a vengeance. It even has a shorter a2c than the vengeance in 26". Did you have some concerns about it?

I've never ridden a Vengeance, the only X Fusion product is a shock which I like.

Besides how it rides (the critical factor), I'm curious as to how the hub release mechanism works in practice as I frequently mount and dismount the front wheel. I'm used to the Maxle DH (secure but a bit of a faff) and the dual flip levers found on the Fox 36s (very convenient, secure and pretty much impossible to get wrong, plus you can visually tell that the axle is locked). The pinch bolt thing doesn't look particularly elegant or fast.

[tacubaya]

Does this mean you won`t be posting how great x-fusion products are whenever someone starts an X-fusion thread?
You stopped distributing them? Don`t you mean the shop you worked for stopped distributing them?

It means the company I own stopped distributing them. We now import, distribute and service Cane Creek suspension in Mexico.

Even if I'm not a X-Fusion distributor anymore, I can say they make some solid forks. I still have a Vengeance HLR coil on my bike and I love it.

[tacubaya]

RV1 guts + Metric CSU= Coil Metric?

No idea, but I think you would at least need the Metric CSU to have a threaded end for the RV1 base plate (I haven't seen one from inside TBH), a spring that fits the RV1 spring guide (and delivers 180mm of travel) and also cut and re-tap the RV1 spring rod to proper size (assuming it is straight wall). Sounds like a lot of hassle.

[womble]

taikuri, toothless or anyone else with a Metric:

How are you finding the red rebound knobs? My rebound (new Metric, not yet ridden) seems a bit odd:

Slowest setting is dead slow
Second click is slower than I'd use
Third click is a usable speed
Clicks 5-17 (or however many clicks there are) are well into pogo territory.

My Vector shock rebound is much more sensibly balanced. Neither are usable at the extremes of rebound, but there is a good middle ground of settings that I can use.

Basically with the Metric there are only one or two clicks before rebound gets silly-fast.

[Ramjm_2000]

It means the company I own stopped distributing them. We now import, distribute and service Cane Creek suspension in Mexico.

Even if I'm not a X-Fusion distributor anymore, I can say they make some solid forks. I still have a Vengeance HLR coil on my bike and I love it.

Tacu

Given you have extensive XF service knowledge would you know how to read an XF serial number? I have a few other questions if you don't mind a PM ? Thanks
JR

[savo]

Did someone get the 650b already?

[savo]

And why are people claiming a 200g weight saving over a Vengeance when a Vengeance air HLR weights at 2254g vs the 2268g of the Metric (both listed weights, but seems to be close to real)?

I was leaning toward a Metric 650b but lack of info about availability and high price are not encouraging.
A Vengeance would be same weight, same damper, 300 euro less expensive, and readily available.
650b offset is actually the only plus of the Metric, isn't it?

[dzdale]

Does the offset honestly make that much difference ? what about other possible mitigating factors such as slack head tube angle etc ?

[savo]

Does the offset honestly make that much difference ? what about other possible mitigating factors such as slack head tube angle etc ?

I like slack angle and the frame I'm going to build is slack indeed (Canfield One), but a mitigation factor for the lower offset would actually be a steeper angle.

[Ramjm_2000]

IMO it might be a very marginal difference. Ive got a Velvet 650b now, should have my Sweep this week if customs cooperates. I'll have a better feel after I have a few rides in.

[cerebroside]

And why are people claiming a 200g weight saving over a Vengeance when a Vengeance air HLR weights at 2254g vs the 2268g of the Metric (both listed weights, but seems to be close to real)?
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Not sure about 200g, but the X-Fusion website lists the Metric (air HLR) as lighter than the Vengeance (air HLR). It's just over 200g lighter than the Vengeance coil HLR (all claimed weights).

Vengeance HLR - 2404g
Vengeance Coil HLR - 2494g
Metric HLR - 2268g

The US/CAD price difference is only $100. How is the availability on the 26" version?

[savo]

Not sure about 200g, but the X-Fusion website lists the Metric (air HLR) as lighter than the Vengeance (air HLR). It's just over 200g lighter than the Vengeance coil HLR (all claimed weights).

Vengeance HLR - 2404g
Vengeance Coil HLR - 2494g
Metric HLR - 2268g

The US/CAD price difference is only $100. How is the availability on the 26" version?

Right, but why compare the Metric (Air) with the Vengeance coil and ignore the Vengeance Air? It doesn't make sense.

European RRP difference is circa 200 euro, but some slightly lower price can be find for a Vengeance.
I don't know about the 26" Metric, never investigated.

[cerebroside]

Right, but why compare the Metric (Air) with the Vengeance coil and ignore the Vengeance Air? It doesn't make sense.

European RRP difference is circa 200 euro, but some slightly lower price can be find for a Vengeance.
I don't know about the 26" Metric, never investigated.

I think people are just exaggerating the ~150g difference in the air vs air claimed weights, rather than comparing to the coil. It's still a decent weight saving if you're counting grams; I'd love to be able to drop that much on other components.

[savo]

I think people are just exaggerating the ~150g difference in the air vs air claimed weights, rather than comparing to the coil. It's still a decent weight saving if you're counting grams; I'd love to be able to drop that much on other components.

That's a good point, most european sites (X-Fusion german one included) list a 2254g weight for the Vengeance air HLR, while others (X-Fusion english one included) list them at 2404g as you quoted...

[savo]

As for the offset:
Vengeance: 41mm
Metric 26": 42mm
Metric 27.5: 46mm

[mountainbiker9109]

Have had mine sitting around for a month now. Between weather here in New England and work I haven't had a chance to take it out for a ride.

Weighed 5lb 1oz out of the box according to my scale.

Also picked up a hilo sl dropper from them. Wish they stayed consistent with the stanchion colors. Did match fox kashima perfectly.

Teaser shot:

[cerebroside]

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Weighed 5lb 1oz out of the box according to my scale.
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Looks great! Love the Rune V2's, I wouldn't mind a Darkside as my next bike...

Even with the full steerer that is damn close to listed weight (at 2296g after conversion).

[kneecap]

Did you weigh that hilo sl, I'm interested in one since I'm way pleased with my slant 160mm.

[dzdale]

Have had mine sitting around for a month now. Between weather here in New England and work I haven't had a chance to take it out for a ride.

Weighed 5lb 1oz out of the box according to my scale.

Also picked up a hilo sl dropper from them. Wish they stayed consistent with the stanchion colors. Did match fox kashima perfectly.

Teaser shot:

Love the magnesium colour with the Raw 👍, so you must be the first owner of the magnesium ones in the UK, I had the first black ones , really nice forks . Had mine adjusted to 160 for the Rune, so would be interested in your opinion on the handling at 180 as i might want to try that confuguration

[savo]

Love the magnesium colour with the Raw 👍, so you must be the first owner of the magnesium ones in the UK, I had the first black ones , really nice forks . Had mine adjusted to 160 for the Rune, so would be interested in your opinion on the handling at 180 as i might want to try that confuguration

Where did you buy it in the UK? online or lbs?
And is yours a 26er or a 650b one?