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    SR Suntour Epicon a good shock for $200?

    I've got an Airborne SkyHawk and love it. I'm wanting to in-expensively reduce weight and make it an even better bike. I'm wanting to upgrade the wheels and fork as this is the best place to reduce weight. Is this SR Suntour Epicon a good deal or can I get a better/lighter fork for the same amount of money? I'm not really wanting to spend more than $250 as I don't need much of a shock in Florida. But this one should cut my weight in half compared to the stock XCM.
    2013 SR Suntour Epicon X2 MTB Fork 100mm Remote Lockout White Mountain Bike : Amazon.com : Sports & Outdoors

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    Manitou Match is a much better fork that weights about 1lb less then your current fork but about 1lb more than the Epicon.

    But honestly, you're upgrading a $350 bike. What you should do is sell that bike on craigslist. Then take the money you get from that along with what you were going to spend on a fork and wheels then buy a better used bike. You can get a drastically better bike for less than $1000 shipped to your door.

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    The Epicon is a good fork, much better than the entry level Manitou suggested above. I have a 2011 model (basically the 2012 13 X2) on my Diamondback Recoil. Is it the best fork out there probably not, my other 2 bikes have a 2011 Fox Talas RLC FIT and 2012 RS Revelation Dual air RLT with motion control DNA, but the Epicon can hold its own against those 2 at third of the cost.

    If you like your Skyhawk go for it you wont regret it, though I would also look on Ebay for the Epicon X1 for about the same price this model comes with a hollow crown (weight reduction) and a newer damping cartridge (better bump sensitivity and adjust-ability)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra8d View Post
    The Epicon is a good fork, much better than the entry level Manitou suggested above. I have a 2011 model (basically the 2012 13 X2) on my Diamondback Recoil. Is it the best fork out there probably not, my other 2 bikes have a 2011 Fox Talas RLC FIT and 2012 RS Revelation Dual air RLT with motion control DNA, but the Epicon can hold its own against those 2 at third of the cost.
    I completely disagree with this. I've owned a 2011 Epicon and currently own a '11 Reba and a '11 Rev. My friend has a 100mm match that I'm quite familiar with. The Epicon has no true comp damper, no ability to add platform and uses a basic rebound damper. Not only that but the damper comes sealed from the factory so forget oil changes for normal user. The advantage that Epicon holds over the match is that it's air, lighter and has a wider travel adjustment range because it's air.

    I honestly can't believe you even suggested that the epicon is a better fork unless the person absolutely needs air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra8d View Post
    The Epicon is a good fork, much better than the entry level Manitou suggested above. I have a 2011 model (basically the 2012 13 X2) on my Diamondback Recoil. Is it the best fork out there probably not, my other 2 bikes have a 2011 Fox Talas RLC FIT and 2012 RS Revelation Dual air RLT with motion control DNA, but the Epicon can hold its own against those 2 at third of the cost.

    If you like your Skyhawk go for it you wont regret it, though I would also look on Ebay for the Epicon X1 for about the same price this model comes with a hollow crown (weight reduction) and a newer damping cartridge (better bump sensitivity and adjust-ability)

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    This is a ridiculous statement. A Manitou Match has one of the best dampers made(and is fully tuneable). Better then you will find in most forks that cost double to triple the price. It is also backed by a company with some of the best customer service in the industry. It going to perform much better than the an Epicon which has one of the simplest dampers available with average performance at best.

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    Thanks for the replies. That Manitou Match is not going to save me too much in weight. Since I don't need much of a fork for the Florida XC I ride would the lighter Epicon be ok? Any others around this price range that are lighter?

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    Rockshox sektor solo air tk off eBay for $230. Right around 4.0lbs before cutting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kan3 View Post
    But honestly, you're upgrading a $350 bike. What you should do is sell that bike on craigslist. Then take the money you get from that along with what you were going to spend on a fork and wheels then buy a better used bike. You can get a drastically better bike for less than $1000 shipped to your door.
    Kan3, can you please comment on this more and provide a link to a used bike you have in mind? I haven't been able to find a used or new bike that could come close to touching the price/quality of an Airborne. I would have gotten a goblin but I am new to this sport and wanted to make sure I was going to stick with before spending too much up front. Well I fell in love with the sport and don't regret the SkyHawk. I want to get to know the 26" before upgrading to 29". I also want to use this bike to continue teaching myself bike mechanics. But if you can show me how to get a better bike for less than upgrading this one i would appreciate seeing one/some. I've looked but haven't found any that were not way over priced. Now that Airborne doesn't sell this SkyHawk anymore I've been offered $400 for mine but I love it so much I turned that down.

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    SR Suntour Epicon a good shock for $200?

    I think it will be a good upgrade. The raidon is a step down and I like it a lot, plus I've seen good reviews on the epicon. So honestly it's up to you if you want to buy it or choose something else
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    If you haven't seen this already.. here's a review of the Epicon - If you want to upgrade your Suntour fork

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    Thanks... I actually ordered it last night. It was on sale for $190
    2013 SR Suntour Epicon X2 MTB Fork 100mm Remote Lockout White Mountain Bike New | eBay

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    Now I need a shock pump and star nut. Any recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    Thanks... I actually ordered it last night. It was on sale for $190
    2013 SR Suntour Epicon X2 MTB Fork 100mm Remote Lockout White Mountain Bike New | eBay
    Wow. I should have checked eBay. I got the same fork from Amazon (same seller) but his Amazon price is $30 higher.

    SR Suntour Epicon a good shock for 0?-njveb7fn2pzsj9o75rdgcjdfz26mzqdfinbvueb0qeu.jpg

    More pix of my bike here - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s50oztmw4nzejsr/RuejsLm3BO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    Now I need a shock pump and star nut. Any recommendations?
    I bought this..

    Amazon.com: Topeak Pocket Shock DXG Bike Pump: Sports & Outdoors

    I like the fact that there is a "bleeder" valve so you don't loose any air when unscrewing the pump. Check YouTube for reviews/how-to. So far I like it.

    As for the star nut.. any LBS should be able to sell you one.

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    Thanks.. I'll have to get that ordered next.

    PS that shock looks good on your bike. It will be half the weight of the one on mine now. I saw it on Amazon too. I have been emailing them through eBay with questions and they have been very helpful. When I got all my questions answered and went to order it was 5% off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    Kan3, can you please comment on this more and provide a link to a used bike you have in mind? I haven't been able to find a used or new bike that could come close to touching the price/quality of an Airborne. I would have gotten a goblin but I am new to this sport and wanted to make sure I was going to stick with before spending too much up front. Well I fell in love with the sport and don't regret the SkyHawk. I want to get to know the 26" before upgrading to 29". I also want to use this bike to continue teaching myself bike mechanics. But if you can show me how to get a better bike for less than upgrading this one i would appreciate seeing one/some. I've looked but haven't found any that were not way over priced. Now that Airborne doesn't sell this SkyHawk anymore I've been offered $400 for mine but I love it so much I turned that down.
    Sorry, didn't see your post. What state do you live in?

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    Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    Thanks... I actually ordered it last night. It was on sale for $190
    2013 SR Suntour Epicon X2 MTB Fork 100mm Remote Lockout White Mountain Bike New | eBay
    Wow, I ordered this last Friday and it was at my house on Tuesday from Taiwan. I didn't
    Get it until today because I had to sign for it. Still haven't opened the box but it looks to be packaged well and in great shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    It will be half the weight of the one on mine now.
    Yes, you will notice the weight difference right away. But it also performs and transforms the bike for the better.

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    Looking forward to that. I'll post a pic and review when I get a chance to try them. Took them out of the box last night. Looked perfect. If they work when I get them on I will be most impressed with this ebay/internet company. I'm still waiting on a Star Nut before I can put them on.

    Eric, I'm going to send you a PM about your 1x9 conversion. I'm getting ready to do that too. Your's looks nice.

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    Wow! I put this fork on today and what a difference. I can't even explain it. This is an amazing improvement and for only $189 for the Fork and $30 for a shock pump and $3 for a star nut. All other parts of the bike transferred perfectly. I've never done this before and couldn't believe how easy it was to install. I used a flat blade screw driver to gently remove the crown race from the old fork. Suntour puts a slot at the bottom of the Race so a screw driver can be slipped in. I bought a $3 piece of 1 1/4" Thick Walled PVC pipe to knock the race onto the new fork. Worked perfectly... glad I didn't buy an expensive tool for this. I used Zinn's ghetto method of using the Headset end cap and screw to knock the star nut into the fork. The front of the bike is so light and nimble. Going to build lighter, better wheels next.

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    SR Suntour Epicon a good shock for $200?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    Wow! I put this fork on today and what a difference. I can't even explain it. This is an amazing improvement and for only $189 for the Fork and $30 for a shock pump and $3 for a star nut. All other parts of the bike transferred perfectly. I've never done this before and couldn't believe how easy it was to install. I used a flat blade screw driver to gently remove the crown race from the old fork. Suntour puts a slot at the bottom of the Race so a screw driver can be slipped in. I bought a $3 piece of 1 1/4" Thick Walled PVC pipe to knock the race onto the new fork. Worked perfectly... glad I didn't buy an expensive tool for this. I used Zinn's ghetto method of using the Headset end cap and screw to knock the star nut into the fork. The front of the bike is so light and nimble. Going to build lighter, better wheels next.
    That's looking great man, glad to hear how good that fork is too. Anyways keep riding It hard .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    Wow! I put this fork on today and what a difference. I can't even explain it. This is an amazing improvement and for only $189 for the Fork and $30 for a shock pump and $3 for a star nut. All other parts of the bike transferred perfectly. I've never done this before and couldn't believe how easy it was to install. I used a flat blade screw driver to gently remove the crown race from the old fork. Suntour puts a slot at the bottom of the Race so a screw driver can be slipped in. I bought a $3 piece of 1 1/4" Thick Walled PVC pipe to knock the race onto the new fork. Worked perfectly... glad I didn't buy an expensive tool for this. I used Zinn's ghetto method of using the Headset end cap and screw to knock the star nut into the fork. The front of the bike is so light and nimble. Going to build lighter, better wheels next.
    Looks good! Nice job with the install tool. I tackled most of the install/upgrades on the bike myself except for the fork install. I chickened out when it was time to cut it.. so I took it to the LBS. LOL.

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    Thanks SBF12!

    Eric, I forgot to mention tha I bought this tool:
    MAGBIT 801.114C MAG801 Tube Cutter Copper/EMT 1/8-Inch - 1-1/4-Inch Cut - Amazon.com
    It made quick, easy and accurate work out of cutting the steerer tube.

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    Hey what's your fork air pressure set at? I noticed we are around the same weight.

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    It came to me at 100psi. When I did the SAG test I had to lower it to around 70psi. That felt very good to me on my 5 mile ride yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    It came to me at 100psi. When I did the SAG test I had to lower it to around 70psi. That felt very good to me on my 5 mile ride yesterday.
    Thanks! That's actually the psi that I'm too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Thanks! That's actually the psi that I'm too.
    You're welcome... Is that what you were at before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    You're welcome... Is that what you were at before?
    From factory, it had more psi. I started at 80psi at first, then dropped it to 70.

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    Hey guys! I'm considering ordering this fork.

    I was wondering if you all can confirm that this fork has 9mm QR dropouts? Suntour's site has all 2013 Epicons with 15mm thru axles. I think this is actually a 2011 model year fork.

    Thanks!

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    Mine was.. It looks like this one is too.

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    yeah i agree with Jem7sk.. looks like 9mm qr.

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    Thanks, guys!!!

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    Hi, sorry for posting on an old post. I'm looking at getting the Epicon X2's for my old Revel2. Reading the feedback on these forks they seem like a good upgrade. I'm currently running some well used Suntour XCRs. Ride the local trails in South Wales, UK.

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    @eric, I don't own one (I have a Suntour Durolux) but the epicon is probably the most common upgrade choice for bikers in my country (Philippines) because of its affordability and performance. I say go for it.

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    I purchased the X2 fork but never got a chance to install and use it ..I sold a lot of the parts I purchased for my Project but I searched around a lot to find this fork before choosing to purchase it...The 2 main reasons I did buy it was the weight and price.

    Any bike that uses a spring fork will greatly benefit from this shock as an upgrade...No its not top of the line technology but considering how most spring shocks perform it may as well be..Super light..under 4lbs..An easy 1.5lbs off of the front end.

    I most certainly will be purchasing another one as I regret selling the one I had; as I now have the time to build my bike and ride it...The remote lock out was a nice touch as well with it...I paid $209 shipped from overseas.

    Another fork that caught my eye is the RST "FIRST 30"..Under 4lbs with compression AND rebound dampening adjustment...saw this for $189 out of California on ebay

    Model: First 30 Air-SRL
    Steerer: 28.6 mm 7050 Aluminum 1 1/8"
    Steerer length to Crown: 255mm
    Blade Length to Crown: 485mm
    Crown Pitch: 130mm
    Crown: Aluminum Black Coating
    Stanchion: 30mm 7050 Aluminum Hard Anodize
    Casting MAGNESIUM 9MM Open Dropout
    Adjustment: Air, Rebound, Compression, Remote Lock-out
    Features: Air Spring, Hydraulic Rebound-adjust, Remote Lock-out
    System: Oil, Air
    System Travel: 100mm
    Brake Type: Post Mount Disc Brake
    Weight: 1.80kg=3.96 lbs
    Made in Taiwan
    Warranty: One year


    Definitely 2 low cost alternatives to much better performance over entry level spring forks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricPilot View Post
    Hi, sorry for posting on an old post. I'm looking at getting the Epicon X2's for my old Revel2. Reading the feedback on these forks they seem like a good upgrade. I'm currently running some well used Suntour XCRs. Ride the local trails in South Wales, UK.
    Thanks for reviving my old post. I am the guy who started this and I am still loving the Epicon. It took 3lbs off my front end which was half of what my stock fork weighed.

    As far as performance it works perfectly every time I ride. My conditions In florida are probably slightly different from yours in Wales but I've never had a single complaint from this upgrade.




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    Hi Jem7sk. Thanks for the pics and info. I've found these newer versions of the Epicon on Ebay.

    2014-15 SR SUNTOUR EPICON X2 LO-R lite 26” MTB Lockout Suspension Fork | eBay

    I'm gonna go ahead and order these today. Dont know how much more my XCRs can take, got slight movement in the stansions now. I'll post pics of my bike with the new forks when fitted.

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    Ok so I found some almost new epicons on ebay tonight for 105
    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...497074&alt=web

    Will arrive Friday

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricPilot View Post
    Hi, sorry for posting on an old post. I'm looking at getting the Epicon X2's for my old Revel2. Reading the feedback on these forks they seem like a good upgrade. I'm currently running some well used Suntour XCRs. Ride the local trails in South Wales, UK.
    Hello all,
    I've been riding a Raleigh Talus for the last 4 months. Came with a Suntour XCT fork. i been trying to decide if to get the EPICON-RL-R Lite or the RockShox XC32TK Crown Adjust Solo. The XC32TK seems heavier. What do you think?

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    Yes, the Epicons are lighter. I was looking at Rockshox 30 air's (not XC) as they are lighter, but they are more expensive about 170. For me the price I paid for the Epicons was what made my mind up, 105 on ebay. Think you can get the newer Epicons on ebay for 135 at the moment.

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    Fitted my new forks last night. Look and feel nice. Did SAG test and PSi is around 70 now.

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    I'm needing to replace the RockShox Dart 2 that came on my Airborne Spectre Sport. I didn't expect it to last much longer than it has. I was thinking of going with a RockShox XC30, but this thread is making me lean towards the Epicon..

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    SR Suntour Epicon a good shock for 0?-20140702_215351.jpg
    You should consider the Epicons, they are good for the money. They are quite lightwieght, and handle the local red technical trails I do in my area. Perfect for the money for my pimped Giant Revel Hardtail.
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    I upped the PSi to 100, after the last couple rides all the fork travel was being used. I'm only 73Kgs but I manage some air and hit the downhill sections as fast as I can.
    Last edited by EricPilot; 07-22-2014 at 11:59 PM.

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    Getting my new Epicon Next week

    SR Suntour Epicon a good shock for 0?-epicon_29r.jpgSR Suntour Epicon a good shock for 0?-epicon_29r_2.jpg

    I am replacing my Suntour XCT with a Suntour Epicon. It should arrve next week. I way about 150lbs, any suggestion on how to set the sag?
    I ride XC and a bit of urban with steps and 1-2 foot drops.

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    You should be between 70 and 80lbs of pressure. Go ride and make sure you are not bottoming out. At the end of the ride check the travel and see if you used all your travel (you'll be able to tell by the oil/dust marks) or not and adjust accordingly. I'd start with 75lbs if I were you.

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    Hi, i would tie a zip tie around the left stansion, and put abiut 95psi in the fork. Go out for a ride and check how far up the ziptie is up the stansion after the ride. I weigh about 160lbs and have mine set at 95-100psi. I ride the local red trails. Typically you should sit on the bike in normal position and check how far the stansion compresses. Plenty of info on Youtube for setting sag with air forks.

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    My Epicon Has Arrived

    I collected my SR Suntour Epicon and a XCR I bought for a friend today.
    Epicon is so light in comparison to th XCR.
    Planning to make the switch out from my stock XCT fork to the Epicon this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricPilot View Post
    I upped the PSi to 100, after the last couple rides all the fork travel was being used. I'm only 73Kgs but I manage some air and hit the downhill sections as fast as I can.
    How is your Epicon's performance holding up?
    I've mine tiwice so far and its performed alot better than the XCT.
    Having said that I was on another forum here where a poster got Epicon, he considered to be fake. It looked similar to mine more so than yours. Had me a little unsettled as he said the lock portion appeared to be from a XCR fork.

    Wondering what anyone here has to say about their experince and the build quality and use overtime.

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    I bought one of these forks about 2 years ago. I have been very impressed. Mine is a tapered fork with 9mm dropouts. I use the DTswiss 9mm RWS thru axle on a Hope Pro 2 evo. The axle found here DT Swiss - RWS Thru bolt It improves stiffness considerably over a skewer. IMO for the money you can't beat this fork.

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    hi i have got the sr saunter epicon and the suspension lock lever has stopped working it just spins forever and if i pull the lever off and the plastic gear off then grab the metal bit underneath it just spins around forever and goes up and down

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbuk View Post
    hi i have got the sr saunter epicon and the suspension lock lever has stopped working it just spins forever and if i pull the lever off and the plastic gear off then grab the metal bit underneath it just spins around forever and goes up and down
    Most likely your rebound cartridge leaked, and damping oil seeped through down to the lower leg. Remove air first, and then try to remove lower legs. OEM lower leg should only filled with grease in it (rebound side). If you see oil there, then that's the problem why you lost lockout.

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    thank you very much i will have a strip them apart and have a look and see if i can fix it cheers

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