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    Remote Lockout Fox RL

    Hello,
    I`ve made a remote lockout kit for Fox forks, type RL.

    http://lockoutdeef.googlepages.com/Default.htm

    There are 5 lockouts made for some people,
    in 1 or 2 months I`ve another 30.

    Deef (Holland)
    Last edited by deef; 02-12-2008 at 12:58 PM.

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    Adaptable to the Fox RLC or RLT forks?

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    For the RLT,
    not for the RLC, the problem is the red ring. There is no space for springs etc.

    a few pictures from a 2008 RL


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    very cool

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    It's good to know that it's possible to modify the Fox to go remote. I bought a RS Reba instead of a Fox RL precisely because Fox didn't have the remote lockout. Too bad for them but they lost a customer.
    Check out my SportTracks plugins for some training aid software.

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    If you have questions,
    you can send an email to: lockoutdeef@live.nl

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    talas remote

    I'm your customer if you figure out the remote for the talas II lever

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    Good job! Make one for Talas and RP23 and I'll absolutely buy.

    Quote Originally Posted by krolik
    I'm your customer if you figure out the remote for the talas II lever
    Me too. If you figure out one for the Talas RLC I'll definetly by one.
    I used the remote poploc all the time on my reba. I needed a longer travel 3 stage fork that did not take forever to change stages via u-turn technology so I went with the Fox Talas RLC.
    I use the rlc in 3 ways. You can turn the lock supposedly just (on/off) about 3 millimeters from the locked position and it goes from fully locked to partial dampening. Then, of course further clockwise turn completely unlocks it.
    So, I need a lockout lever that is similar to the old friction shift levers so I can get that level of 3 settings control.
    Another remote lever I need is for the rp23.
    The other nice thing about using these shocks is the are the most tunable I have found by sending them for re-valving at push industries.

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    Hey Deef,
    Again, let us know if you ever figure out the RLC I could sure use a remote lockout. As a 3 stage 100/120/140 It is a great fork for a remote cause super finicky people like it. I use at least 100 and 140 all the time and really could use a remote. I have a bike coming that has a remote for the back shock (DT Swiss XR). But, it really doesn't matter much if I have to reach down anyway for the Talas.
    Would it be possible to remove the compression adjuster ring to do the mod ?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghawk
    Hey Deef,
    ....Would it be possible to remove the compression adjuster ring to do the mod ?
    Thanks
    Hmm....
    correct me if I'm wrong but compression/lockout/rebound is on top of the right leg, whereas talasII lever is on top of the left....
    What one has to do with the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krolik
    Hmm....
    correct me if I'm wrong but compression/lockout/rebound is on top of the right leg, whereas talasII lever is on top of the left....
    What one has to do with the other?
    I thought the problem was that the extra low-speed compression bezel on top of the right leg did not allow him to engineer the lockout lever. I guess I'm not really understanding what the problem is.
    (Of course that is a blue ring not a red one.)
    I could not really find a red ring.
    http://service.foxracingshox.com/con.../TALAS_RLC.htm
    I wonder if he would just sell kit for the rlt and I have a guy in the states that might be able to adapt it. I sent a couple of emails to address above to no avail.
    Sure is a cool product !
    Edit more info. Seems I could be right, it is the compression knob that is the issue. Here is another thread with someone else doing the same thing only in carbon.
    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...c.php?p=383471
    I sure hope one of these really gets off the ground. I've tried to get Fox to step up before but it is such a small market compared to r&d and manufacturing cost of it they really don't seem to give a %^^&* about the extra finicky riders that look for absolute control and performance. Remember the old remote fox made for the rl ? There are some still around. Also, Jagwire made a remote for some rock shoxs and rear floats for awhile in 2005 but required allot of retro hacking to get to work and was d/ced.
    Last edited by ghawk; 03-29-2008 at 05:50 PM.

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    Deef i've emailed you....

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    Deef - that looks better than most of the stuff you get Stock! Well done!

    Again - i think you could REALLY make it big by making kits for rearshocks...

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    God this is so bad, profile wise, glad it's a prototype (i hope.) They should have just copied the poploc.
    http://www.velonews.com/photo/74736

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    Afraid not:



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    Supposedly it is backwardly compatible with other 32 mm platforms (Hopefully the Talas. I'm getting tired of waiting and may rent some shop time to do it myself.)
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...Remote_top_cap
    Probably the slickest solution for non-talas users would buy Deets remote system and use a poploc.
    (Deef's non-talas version sure is alot cleaner looking. )
    Who cares if the warranty is voided sending it for push valving does that anyway.

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    The 2009 lockout from fox don`t work with the older forks.
    I think you can buy a new cardridge, if you have a lot monney!

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    Even with a new damper assembly I don't beleive it. I emailed Fox and will see if I actually get a response.

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    @ Deef

    Any developments in making lockout kits for Rear shocks? I have two designs one of which is a retrofit and works but another one which would be far better however i lack the equipment to machine the bits....

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    how much for the lockout system, and what all does it come with?

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    Update from fox, it will be a retro on SOME models. They had no more details at this time, so I would not hold my breath waiting on them.

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    The lockout systems are ready,
    After you send an email to lockoutdeef@live.nl with your adres and type/year fork,
    I give you the information for the payment and more.

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    So nothin for the RLC huh- Got a F100 and thats the only thing that sucks- reachin down to open that thing back up- If theres anything you come up with to get around the compression knob Ill pick one of those up in a heartbeat- Gotta say too your setup looks really sweet- I know 3 or 4 other guys who have the same complaint on the same fork...I know theyd sink your praises also- Im patient
    Appreciated-
    "The work stinks but the fringe benefits are great"

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    Interesting mod, seems like it would be very useful not having to take a hand of a grip. How much is it?

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    What does the actuation lever look like ?

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    Did you look at his site that he posted in the first thread? http://lockoutdeef.googlepages.com/Default.htm

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    So nothin for the RLC huh- Got a F100 and thats the only thing that sucks- reachin down to open that thing back up- If theres anything you come up with to get around the compression knob Ill pick one of those up in a heartbeat- Gotta say too your setup looks really sweet- I know 3 or 4 other guys who have the same complaint on the same fork...I know theyd sink your praises also- Im patient
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    Me too. Another vote for Talas. It is a pain in a fast siduation to have to reach down. But, I am reaching down on the left to set travel back to 140mm and to right to unlock. Then under to unlock rear. Whew, fine for rides but not for racing.

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    Hey guys!

    I'm gonna try to modify my Vanilla RLC for remote lockout.OFC I wont be able to utilize the hex nut (because of compression adjustment ring), so the cable stop will be fixed to the crown, I guess.

    I dunno if that will be a removable or premanent attachment, we'll see how it goes. Also, I'd try to make an electrical actuator, kinda like the on Lefty fork is using, but with external motor and battery.

    Will get back to you with pictures, when thats done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saietor
    Hey guys!

    I'm gonna try to modify my Vanilla RLC for remote lockout.OFC I wont be able to utilize the hex nut (because of compression adjustment ring), so the cable stop will be fixed to the crown, I guess.

    I dunno if that will be a removable or premanent attachment, we'll see how it goes. Also, I'd try to make an electrical actuator, kinda like the on Lefty fork is using, but with external motor and battery.

    Will get back to you with pictures, when thats done.
    Forget the electric, it is a waste of time, you have to do the spring load anyway. Just get the top cap done and I will buy it if it works with the Talas.
    Last edited by ghawk; 10-02-2008 at 06:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deef
    Noticed the beads you have...aren't those around $80 retail or so? You seem to be someone who doesn't sacrifice on looks or performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deef
    Hello,
    I`ve made a remote lockout kit for Fox forks, type RL.

    http://lockoutdeef.googlepages.com/Default.htm

    There are 5 lockouts made for some people,
    in 1 or 2 months I`ve another 30.

    Deef (Holland)

    If you can provide me with a write-up about your product I'd be happy to publish it on our site to try to get you some added exposure. Contact me through our site, www.mtobikes.com

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    I like nice parts!!

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    Pulled this from his website. Very expensive for a lockout.

    --> Price: 150,- Euro (shipping excluded).
    http://lockoutdeef.googlepages.com/Default_en.htm

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    I think it's a decent price actually

    When you look at the cost of a Pushloc - and a new damper to use a remote lockout thats REAL expensive.

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    It's more than a third of what my fork cost. For that much, just buy a different fork. Besides, the materials cost isn't much for what he's done. Don't get me wrong though, it looks VERY well made. I've thought about doing this myself (I have the RLC) but I don't have the equipment to machine it.

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    Deef, sounds like you have a market for RLC Forks (me included). I have some inexpensive ideas of how you could adapt your current design to work. PM me if you want to discuss.

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    Hi.

    I just get a FOX RLC 2008 soon. So there is another one in the RLC Interest Pool :-)

    greetings

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    a while ago a friend and i started to make our own lockout for fox forks. he made the cable stop from carbon, it just slides onto the hex shape top cap. its very secure, no need for a bolt. but then we got stuck, you need a spring in the lockout lever. how do you do that?

    we have also various designs for a handlebar lever. i tried to incorporate it with the bolts on an avid juicy lever.

    here is a picture of the fork part.

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    The old SID lever is spring loaded

    Quote Originally Posted by danlate
    a while ago a friend and i started to make our own lockout for fox forks. he made the cable stop from carbon, it just slides onto the hex shape top cap. its very secure, no need for a bolt. but then we got stuck, you need a spring in the lockout lever. how do you do that?

    we have also various designs for a handlebar lever. i tried to incorporate it with the bolts on an avid juicy lever.

    here is a picture of the fork part.

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    I just got off the phone with Fox and they ARE selling the Remote Kit now to the tune of $150 (if it fits your fork- I have an F90 RL and it will work). If you could develop this thing a little, and sell it for cheap ($50-75?), you would make a killing. If you have any of those carbon cable-stops sitting around, I would be happy to play with it and see if we could develop a spring-load system of some sort. Let me know.

    If anyone wants to contact Fox for the kit, you can call 1-800-369-7469 xt 4801.

    I think $150 is too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead
    I just got off the phone with Fox and they ARE selling the Remote Kit now to the tune of $150 (if it fits your fork- I have an F90 RL and it will work). If you could develop this thing a little, and sell it for cheap ($50-75?), you would make a killing. If you have any of those carbon cable-stops sitting around, I would be happy to play with it and see if we could develop a spring-load system of some sort. Let me know.

    If anyone wants to contact Fox for the kit, you can call 1-800-369-7469 xt 4801.

    I think $150 is too much.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead
    I just got off the phone with Fox and they ARE selling the Remote Kit now to the tune of $150 (if it fits your fork- I have an F90 RL and it will work). If you could develop this thing a little, and sell it for cheap ($50-75?), you would make a killing. If you have any of those carbon cable-stops sitting around, I would be happy to play with it and see if we could develop a spring-load system of some sort. Let me know.

    If anyone wants to contact Fox for the kit, you can call 1-800-369-7469 xt 4801.

    I think $150 is too much.
    I was told you have to change the dampener cartridge also?

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    The guy at Fox told me the "kit" consisted of a new cap, the cable and the handlebar lever. I think changing the cartridge might depend on the fork, but he said that's all I would need (basically just replaces the blue knob/ dial/ switch on the top of the fork for lockout, so I'm not sure why you'd need to replace the cartridge). Again, I have the F90 RL, so this might be different for other forks. And I still think it's too much- as someone else said, that's a third of the price of the whole fork (of course the new fork with lockout is like $750).

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    Quote Originally Posted by danlate
    a while ago a friend and i started to make our own lockout for fox forks. he made the cable stop from carbon, it just slides onto the hex shape top cap. its very secure, no need for a bolt. but then we got stuck, you need a spring in the lockout lever. how do you do that?

    we have also various designs for a handlebar lever. i tried to incorporate it with the bolts on an avid juicy lever.

    here is a picture of the fork part.

    I would like to see someone pursue this...all you need is to secure the cable on both sides of the tab on the blue ring. The cable can push as well as pull. (depending on the cable deployment, the cable may also need to be secured in a groove around the blue ring.)

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    Oh really, this is awesome news for me and I very excited to know about this remote kit. Thanks for sharing this great information as well as picks.

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    Fox Float RP2 remote kit

    Hi all,

    I have a remote kit available for the Fox Float RP2 rear shock. See the link below for more info:

    http://www.precisionkinetic.com/imag...hockremote.jpg

    Cheers,
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    Need Remote Lockout Kit for 09 Talas RL

    Deef, are you still creating the remote lockout kit for Talas RL (2009). Interested in buying a kit. Henry

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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead
    The guy at Fox told me the "kit" consisted of a new cap, the cable and the handlebar lever. I think changing the cartridge might depend on the fork, but he said that's all I would need (basically just replaces the blue knob/ dial/ switch on the top of the fork for lockout, so I'm not sure why you'd need to replace the cartridge). Again, I have the F90 RL, so this might be different for other forks. And I still think it's too much- as someone else said, that's a third of the price of the whole fork (of course the new fork with lockout is like $750).
    I and my local LBS have been back and forth with FOX for several months. NO remote lockout kit available for Talas. Fox believes that only XC riders will want to dial in their ride via handle bars. They believe that Trail, Freeride, and All Mountain riders don't care. Fox yearly manufacture a short run of Talas shocks for Scott Genius bikes with remote lockout but don't carry spares. Great shock but lousy customer support.

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