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    Quote Originally Posted by Andythemtbking View Post
    My Rockshox Recon SL Solo Air Gold has oil coming up on the bit that goes into the shock. does this mean they need a service cause i have had them for a year? Or has a seal broke or something? Thanks
    Probably need to be serviced and maybe new seals, but definitively you need to change the oil, clean the seals and the internals. The "bit that goes into the shock" is called stanchion.
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    Thanks, Is there a certain oil i need to get and a certain grease for the seals? And any good links to a good video to show how to do it would be helpful! I've never serviced shocks before. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andythemtbking View Post
    Thanks, Is there a certain oil i need to get and a certain grease for the seals? And any good links to a good video to show how to do it would be helpful! I've never serviced shocks before. Thanks
    No expert here, but I managed to service with success all my suspension components. Key is to get as much info, tips and all the tools you need before you start.

    RS forks are very easy to service. Like very easy. You can get the manual for your fork on Rock Shox (SRAM) website. Assuming it's a 2011 model fork, here's the link for the service manual pdf : http://www.sram.com/sites/default/fi...cal-manual.pdf

    This manual have instructions for different variations of the Recon, so you need to jump to the pages where your fork is detailed.

    For oil, you'll need Rock Shox 5wt and some 15wt, but you can easily use motorcycle fork oil, such as Bel-Ray high performance fork oil, the 5w is correct and you can also get some 7.5w or 10w since you'll also need some 15wt oil for the top of the damper. Bel-Ray oil is just a bit more dense than RS one, but you should be alright. Please feel free to correct me on this.

    For grease, some Judy Butter is perfect, you'll usually have to grease the seals, bushings, dust wiper lips (seals and dust wipers have a small lip inside where you can stick some grease and it will stay there to help lube the stanchions), also grease any o-rings and moving parts, internals threads, etc. You can order the Judy Butter online if your LBS don't have it. Should be about $10 max for 1oz. You don't need a lot of it btw. Slick Honey (paint ball product) or Silkolene (motorcycle) are also similar greases. Those are formulated not to be dissolved by oil over time and stay put.

    Screw the vids, you're not servicing a Fox, you'll only need a wrench and flat blade screwdriver (well and a few more standard tools, but nothing special beside o-clip pliers)

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    Thank you, that's a great help!

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    Where do you guys usually buy/get o-rings or seals for servicing forks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cageman View Post
    Where do you guys usually buy/get o-rings or seals for servicing forks?
    I buy my o-rings at the hardware store, plumber's section. Never had to buy seals yet, but I think enduroforkseals.com is a good place to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David C View Post
    I buy my o-rings at the hardware store, plumber's section. Never had to buy seals yet, but I think enduroforkseals.com is a good place to start.
    I tried enduroforkselas.com, but the particular seal I'm looking for was not available.

    RE: o-rings. I was looking for metric o-rings, but only a few nearby stores had limited selections of metric o-rings. Do you have any recommendation on hardware stores?

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    Well I have a very nice specialized hardware store that got tons of metric bolts and stuff. You can sometime find some in the plumber section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David C View Post
    Well I have a very nice specialized hardware store that got tons of metric bolts and stuff. You can sometime find some in the plumber section.
    I will check out plumber sections. Typical hardware stores, like ACE, Lowes, or Home Depot, are ones I can find near my place. I'm in Seattle area.

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    Thanks, very helpful

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    What does it mean if your FLOAT R shock(which is only a year old and it the 2011 version) is beginning to squeak a little as when it is contracting when riding? Repair? Seal Replacement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TranceTrailRoamer View Post
    What does it mean if your FLOAT R shock(which is only a year old and it the 2011 version) is beginning to squeak a little as when it is contracting when riding? Repair? Seal Replacement?
    Service at the very least.
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    hey guys new here....

    just wondering does anyone know where i might find a guide for stripping and rebuilding my fox van-r rear shock (coil) some of these guides look great considering getting a fox dhx just cause that guide is here lol

    thanks

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    Hi all another newbie.

    I need info on replacing my seals on my Fox 32 Float RL w/lockout.
    I have been studying this and article on Bike Radar about how to service your seals and it shows you how to remove your lowers. But it doesnt say anything about lock out.

    I would like to give it a go my self rather than paying shop to do it.I was just want to now if the lock out will change anything ? does the lockout need to be removed etc??? Any help would be fantastic!

    Thanks Mike

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    Anyone have anly idea where I can get a setup or tuning guide fo a Rock Shox Monarch RT, rear suspension shock?

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    Hi, does anyone know how to tighten the right side of a 2011 Fox Float 36 ?

    The thin metal or plastic that you can see under the Compression/Lockout Dial is loose and oil is slowly leaking out when i rest my bike on its side.

    It doesn't leak much if i dont rest my bike on the side so i assume it's a small problem?

    been googling alot but i cant find any site that teaches you step by step so i can see how to tighten that part.

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    If anyone wants to adjust the performance of their fox float for free,check this out.You tube,fox float volume reducer.

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    thanks....very informative

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    2008 Rockshox Recon bottoming out

    It appears that my Recon is in need of a rebuild. I noted oil leaking from the rebound damper adjuster and on my last ride I felt the shock just stop working at all. I think the oil from the upper has slowly leaked to the bottom so I figure it is time for some maintenance to be done before damaging the fork. Can any one recommend a good place to purchase the kit to do this job? I will need the kit as well as 5 & 15 wt oil. My local bike shop was not very helpfull with info or ability to get the parts and being a do it yourselfer on everything else mechanical I figure I can give it a go. I have nothing to lose as the warranty is long past. Thanks in advance for any help.

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    First find the service guide online for your fork, see how much oil you need and head to your local motorcycle dealer to buy it. Bel-Ray fork oil is pretty decent. Then online you can order exactly what you need plus some Judy Butter for the seals and o-rings (an once will be plenty for a single rebuild) and get busy.

    Best will be to first open and see what needs to be replaced before you order parts. But you probably don't have a week to leave the bike in, waiting for parts.

    Don't forget the beer and the music and have fun !
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    I have the service guide and have read it several times. I did see the volumes specs you mentioned as well. I basically need a good on line source to order the kit from. Most sites I looked at thus far are quite vague on what is included. I figure you guys have done this several times each so you may have a favorite dealer.

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    PS,
    I grow my hops and make my own beer so no shortage on refreshments in my shop

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    Well I'm not a suspension expert, just like to fool around and read a lot. And so far I never had to buy any parts for my forks/shocks beside oil and Judy Butter... Guess I'm lucky coz I have 2 forks and shocks from 2000, a Dart 2 from 2010 and '06 Marz and they are still doing good with regular service (oil change and cleaning).

    Btw most online site like JensonUSA have live chat feature where you can actually ask them what is exactly into the kit or what would fit your needs. As far as seals and such, they are pretty common standards across the same brand, so do your research.

    Btw I hear a lot about enduro fork seals, but never tried them. Take a look on their site you might find more info on what you're looking for too.
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    I tend to agree with your position on cleaning and re-lubing the unit. I am hardly a an aggressive rider and do not beat up my bike at all so there has been no damage to the fork in that respect. As a matter of fact the dust wipers are dry on both sides of the fork. The only oil I saw leaking was from the little red rebound controller on the damper side. I am going to get the oil and give it a go with a good cleaning fill it back up per specks and ride. Worse thing to happen is I find a bad oring or do a rebuild over the winter. Thanks for your input tonight David.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruNut View Post
    I tend to agree with your position on cleaning and re-lubing the unit. I am hardly a an aggressive rider and do not beat up my bike at all so there has been no damage to the fork in that respect. As a matter of fact the dust wipers are dry on both sides of the fork. The only oil I saw leaking was from the little red rebound controller on the damper side. I am going to get the oil and give it a go with a good cleaning fill it back up per specks and ride. Worse thing to happen is I find a bad oring or do a rebuild over the winter. Thanks for your input tonight David.
    Worst case you can always get a replacement o-ring at the hardware store... And Judy Butter on all friction parts and o-rings, glide rings and seals and into the dust wipers lips.

    You're welcome
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    O-ring chart

    Just came across a thread on O-ring sizes David! Looks promising.
    forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/o-ring-sizes-rs-revelation-reba-pike-inside-579868.html

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    Look interesting... Should spend more time there soon

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    Hi,
    I have rebuilt my son's Specialized hotrock 20".
    I put the front forks through the powder coating oven before realising that there are plastic guides in the forks that the tubes run inside. These have now melted.
    Does anyone know where to get replacement?

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    The job went well. Had a couple "crap now what" moments and replaced one o-ring. Refilled the oil to specs and everything works like new again. Thanks to all who care enough to share their experiences with all. This is a great resource and sharing center for all things mountainbike!!

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    marzocchi ata with coil

    hi there,
    i recently purchased a fork with ata,,when i went to service the cartridge i found it had a coil installed,,is there any info on this anywhere ?

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    Can see this took a lot of effort so thanks

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    Also any tips for servicing the fork on a 2012 hardrock

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    Quote Originally Posted by AIDONN View Post
    Also any tips for servicing the fork on a 2012 hardrock
    Yeah, find out what fork you have. Which manufacturer and model.
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    2012 Reba 29er RLT (15mm Maxle version) service question

    I have bought a 29er Reba with 15mm thru-axle lowers and I surprised how should I loose the nut at the air side. It's soo deep inside the legs! I have just found SRAM's service manual .pdf but there is only a note to this question: "For hollow bottom fork legs you will need to use a deep 10 mm socket to loosen and unthread the air shaft nut."
    Which socket tool should I search for (especially if I would like to use a torque wrench for proper tightening)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by semmiho View Post
    I have bought a 29er Reba with 15mm thru-axle lowers and I surprised how should I loose the nut at the air side. It's soo deep inside the legs! I have just found SRAM's service manual .pdf but there is only a note to this question: "For hollow bottom fork legs you will need to use a deep 10 mm socket to loosen and unthread the air shaft nut."
    Which socket tool should I search for (especially if I would like to use a torque wrench for proper tightening)?
    Well you can get a simple deep 10mm socket of the right size for your torque wrench (like 1/2 or 3/8).

    A deep socket is like a regular one, but taller/longer. Any one that fit is gonna do the job.

    I usually have to use a few main tools for fork servicing. A long sturdy flat blade screwdriver, one smaller/thinner, a few metric hex wrenches and 21mm/24mm, etc wrenches or 6-point socket for the top caps depending what's best. Then a regular 3/8 or 1/2 wrench with short, medium and long extensions, and a few sets of metric sockets to find the right fit for every fork. It also helps if you have a pretty complete tool collection in your shop (not bike-related tools, but general tools). Also a few lint-free rags, a nice wide and large container to drain the oil, many paper rolls and isopropyl alcohol bottle for accidental spills and stains, a little flashlight is also useful, and then cir-clip pliers and rubber mallet too.

    Supplies would include new oil, Judy Butter or similar (oil friendly grease), isopropyl alcohol to clean up the old oil, thick grease for the coil springs (if not immersed in oil bath) and music+beer.

    I would also print out tech data and instructions you could need, but them in a binder inside plastic protectors and usually have at least oil volumes and exploded view of the fork, and also a few blank sheets to take notes if needed. This will be your workbook for bike stuff in the future.

    So here ya go


    This is what you need here :

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    Great, great thread!

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    the links to SRAMS rock shox service manual pages under the TORA ...

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    Thanks

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    2008 Pike U Turn issue

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    I have a 2008 Rockshox Pike 409 U-Turn Coil that I just bought used. When i twist the U-Turn knob to raise the suspension noting happens. It clicks a few times then clunks and the suspension travel stays the same. Any help is appreciated.

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    Hello.
    Anyone know outside diameter of RockShox Vivid 2008-2011 ifp (maximum OD the aluminum body ifp) and ID of expansion tank.

    I want install Vivd IFP in DHX.

    DHX IFP have 26,8mm OD

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    Perfect, thank you

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    nope

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    Hi! I have Recon Silver (2011) with turnkey damper. Turnkey damper have a code 43-4015-016-010, but in RS spare parts catalog I can`t find the item with that number. Can I use another turnkey damper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arevuar View Post
    Hi! I have Recon Silver (2011) with turnkey damper. Turnkey damper have a code 43-4015-016-010, but in RS spare parts catalog I can`t find the item with that number. Can I use another turnkey damper?
    Where did you get that code from, it isn't listed for any of the 2011 Recon Silver's dampers.

    Look on pages 17, 18 and 19 of the 2012 Rockshox Spare Parts Catalog:
    http://www.sportimport.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2012_rockshox_spc_rev_c.pdf

    Standard Turnkey: Part # 11.4015.306.000

    http://www.petracycles.co.uk/rockshox-compression-damper-assy-tora-sl-turnkey-crown-adj-p-69109.html

    http://www.bicyclehero.com/us/rockshox-turnkey-compression-damper-tora-sl-11-recon-silver.html

    http://www.bikeman.com/FK7160.html

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=30476

    Remote Turnkey: Part # 11.4015.306.020 seems to be out of stock everywhere.
    Remote Motion Control: Part # 11.4015.306.030 seems to be out of stock everywhere too.

    There is other dampers that would probably work work with your fork too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobba View Post
    Where did you get that code from, it isn't listed for any of the 2011 Recon Silver's dampers.
    This code is written on the damper

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    Oils: Can we get OEM to Motorcycle Charts?

    I have read on a few locations that the older Fox forks use a Torco RSF Medium oil (see pictures). Name:  Fox 7wt.jpg
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    The newer Fox oils are apparently made by someone else, and they are not the same (weight, color combination) as any they sell to the public. There seem to be 'red' and 'green' versions.

    Green:

    Has a cST of 47, but called 10wt.

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    I read Rockshox don't use Torco, but have yet to work out more about what they might use.

    NOTE: I am working under the assumption that if the bottle is the same as a motorcycle brand, then it's almost certainly made by them, but may be a grade/mixture that isn't sold direct.

    My Torco RSF Medium is widely claimed to be exactly what Fox use. I have bought a bottle (1/3 the price of Fox fluid) and have used it successfully (although I don't know if I could tell if it was not exactly the same). The Torco/old Fox is only specified for a few forks, most use the newer bottles.

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    How much would it cost to upgrade the damping on a Rockshox Sektor R to motion control? What parts do I need and how do i get them? Universalcycles.com seems to have the right part listed for $61 but it's out of stock. (can't post links, sorry!) I haven't found the same part anywhere else.

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    Hello- looking for a service manual for my wife's RST Gila T4 fork on her 2004 Specialized Hardrock. The links at the top of this thread appear broken, and I got no reply from the email listed on the RST site. Any tips? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stillkeen View Post
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    The newer Fox oils are apparently made by someone else, and they are not the same (weight, color combination) as any they sell to the public. There seem to be 'red' and 'green' versions.

    Green:

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    I read Rockshox don't use Torco, but have yet to work out more about what they might use.

    NOTE: I am working under the assumption that if the bottle is the same as a motorcycle brand, then it's almost certainly made by them, but may be a grade/mixture that isn't sold direct.

    My Torco RSF Medium is widely claimed to be exactly what Fox use. I have bought a bottle (1/3 the price of Fox fluid) and have used it successfully (although I don't know if I could tell if it was not exactly the same). The Torco/old Fox is only specified for a few forks, most use the newer bottles.
    Hi, take a look at this chart here :

    Suspension Fluid - Pvdwiki

    And in particular this exact file :



    But yes, you could try to find the equivalent in motorcycle world. Many of us here uses Bel-Ray Motorcycle fork oil, I've been using it to replace 5w to 15w RS and Marzzochi oil (Marzzochi is Golden Spectro) and it's all good. Honestly if you take the time to do your maths, you may end up with a way cheapest oil cost than that uberly expensive Fox stuff.

    Good luck
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