• 01-27-2010
    Nick_M2R
    The Complete Fox DHX 3/4/5 Service Thread
    Hi all :thumbsup:

    Here is the 4th Version of my Fox DHX 3/4/5 Service Guide

    It shows you how to completely service (about 98%) your DHX, including the rebound and propedal assemblies. Servicing the rebound assembly will require careful use of a propane torch, so before commencing work on your shock, be sure you uderstand what you are doing by first reading the method in which to use the propane torch.

    Make sure you download and read through the tutorial carefully before commencing work on your shock

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    Shock Models Supported;
    2005 - 2009 Fox DHX 3/4/5 Coils
    2010 Fox DHX 3/4

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    NOTE: CERTAIN DHX 5 THAT CAME STOCK ON SPECIALIZED SX TRAILS HAVE UNADJUSTABLE BOOST VALVES, MEANING THERE IS NO AIR VALVE FOR YOU TO ADJUST, INSTEAD THEY ARE FACTORY CHARGED WITH NITROGEN

    DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SERVICE THESE SHOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Download Links:
    ( I know the hosting sites arnt liked by many people, but sorry it will have to do for now :D )

    Guide:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?lotejczmzz0

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    Enjoy boys and girls

    Also if you use this guide please report your success, also CONSTRUCTIVE critisim is welcomed, oh, and do not ***** about how i used a shifting wrench, its all i had, use a spanner if you wish

    Cheers!
  • 02-01-2010
    tuumbaq
    Thanks for the guide Nick, It really helped me figuring out what was wrong with my shock !
  • 03-15-2010
    croft92
    For start I would like to thank you for the guide NICK...I`ve got a problem with my shock FOX DHX 5.0 2008 and i can`t figure out what`s wrong..I hear a sound like a knock inside the shock ....I always ride with 125 psi in the air chamber so the air its not the problem .. For example my shock become very strong at compression when i rotate the rebound knob clockwise (10-15 click) and the sound is very strong and afect the performance of the shock ....The same thing happen when i am activating the propedal , but the sound seems to double (2 knocks at one time )....I am waitng an answer from you NICK ....THX ..great job
  • 03-15-2010
    Wil109
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by croft92
    The same thing happen when i am activating the propedal , but the sound seems to double (2 knocks at one time )....I am waitng an answer from you NICK ....THX ..great job

    You might have suffered the same issue as me, see this link, http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/fox-dhx-3-4-5-coil-rebuild-thread-538515.html. I don't think that I snugged the shim stack assembly on tight enough.

    Don't ride it, open the shock back up and check it out.

    Wil
  • 03-15-2010
    Bikinfoolferlife
    Thanks for the guide! Haven't used it yet, but plan to soon...

    No way to actually get the o-ring sizes from you, is there? Would be great to be able to order them and have them on hand at the start. Don't know of any place I could go to get them sized exactly either. Anyone have a good spot in the San Francisco area? Peninsula preferably...

    PS Just saw cowpat's list in the thread wil109 posted...
  • 03-15-2010
    croft92
    its not the piston bolt :( i am very sad ..dont know what to do ....help me guys with some ideas
  • 03-24-2010
    FreeRideABullit
    Hey Nick, Thanks for all the research and development on this very comprehensive guide!

    I ran into a bit of a snag with my rebuild,

    When I go to take the lockring off of the piston assembly the entire cylinder starts to loosen from the black carriage instead of the lockring itself. I've tried putting it very tightly in a vice among other more barbaric things and was wondering if you had any advice for this scenario.

    Thanks,

    Dave
  • 03-24-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by croft92
    its not the piston bolt :( i am very sad ..dont know what to do ....help me guys with some ideas

    Ok sorry guys for leaving this thread dead for awhile, have been mega busy starting my new life at college and Uni

    EDIT: ok just checked and read that you dont got a 05 model DHX
    Ill be honest, im quite stumped at what could be causing this :???:

    Hmm...:idea:

    Well make sure you double check that you havent overtightened the piston bolt, as this is the cause of the problem 85% of the time. Failing that, did you remove the PP assembly? If you did are you sure that you put all the springs and such back together properly?, and also check to make sure the snap ring is resting in its groove properly

    Hope this helps, let us know how it goes!
  • 03-24-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FreeRideABullit
    Hey Nick, Thanks for all the research and development on this very comprehensive guide!

    I ran into a bit of a snag with my rebuild,

    When I go to take the lockring off of the piston assembly the entire cylinder starts to loosen from the black carriage instead of the lockring itself. I've tried putting it very tightly in a vice among other more barbaric things and was wondering if you had any advice for this scenario.

    Thanks,

    Dave

    Hi Dave

    Now when you say lockring, do you mean the snap ring inside the Resi that holds the PP assembly in, or are we talking about the piston bolt? the thing that holds the piston and shims on?

    If its the piston bolt thats stuck and causing the shaft to unthread from the rebound housing eyelet (the black thing at the bottom of the shaft in which the red rebound adjust resides) then to get in undone, first clamp the shaft as tight (being careful not to damage the shaft finish) as you can into wooden clamps as is shown in my guide, then use a propane torch to GENTLY heat the top of the shaft underneath the piston (where the tiny hole is) make sure you heat it evenly, and only until its hot to touch. Now the bolt should come of much easier now, if not, make sure its firmly clamped and give it a tiny bit more heat.

    Hope this helps, let us know how it goes! :thumbsup:
  • 03-24-2010
    FreeRideABullit
    to clarify i'm talking about step 4. in the guide. the entire cylinder is coming unthreaded from the black turn around instead of just the piston cap. so in short i can't get the piston out the cylinder. hopefully you know a trick for me!
  • 03-24-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Ahh.. righto im with ya now!

    Righto, so the entire cylinder is unwinding?

    Well in that case, my fix would be the same as what i said above.
    Make some shaft clamps outta some hardwood off cuts and clamp the entire cylinder firmly into the vice (with the clamps of course). Just be careful not to crush it.

    Then again, using a propane torch, heat up the cylinder where the shaft housing (the black thing in which the shaft goes into) screws into it, heat around that area evenly until it is hot to touch, then making sure the cylinder is firmly clamped, undo the shaft housing. This should get it undone, Fox dont loctite it, but it gets torqued fairly high, mine was tight to undo the first time as well, but the propane torch fixed that.

    One more thing, seeing as you said that the cylinder was unscrewing from the main body, make sure that when you have removed the piston and the shaft that you flip the thing around, again clamp it, and tighten the main housing (the black bridge that connects the main cylinder to the resi. You will have to use a breaker bar and insert it through the mount hardware to get enough leverage to tighten it , as hand tight wont be enough.

    Hope this helps, let us know how it goes and if you got anymore questions, dont hesitate to ask!
  • 03-24-2010
    AaronJG
    this guide is wicked, its in my book of what can i try not to screw up on my bike lol, thanks 4 putting ur time into this and hope u make other guides foe all of us eager learners.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
  • 03-25-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronJG
    this guide is wicked, its in my book of what can i try not to screw up on my bike lol, thanks 4 putting ur time into this and hope u make other guides foe all of us eager learners.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D

    No probs mate! :thumbsup:
    Sharing info like this is what makes it all worth while!

    Dont worry, got a few more guide up my sleeve, just been mega slack about em lately because ive just started adapting to my new life at uni and college, fun times!

    But for now, if you wanna see some of my other guides, check my signature for links on how to service the Marzocchi ATA cart amd how to tune the Mission Control Shimstack!:thumbsup:
  • 03-26-2010
    Nick_M2R
    A little update guys, have been poking round through the files of the fox service site that used to be uploaded here, and have stumbled across this IFP Depth chart

    As you can see, the depths differ for the DHX 3/4 compared to the 5, which makes sense because the increased IFP depth figures for the 5 are compensating for the bottom out adjuster (which is simply a screwable plug that increases or decrease the volume of the boost valve chamber.)

    Here it is, will update the one in the guide soon....
    ------------------------------------------------
    DHX 5.0 Coil IFP Depth:
    ------------------------------------------------

    I2I - Stroke: Depth (inches):

    7.50 X 2.00 1.250
    7.875 X 2.00 1.250
    7.875 X 2.25 1.300
    8.500 X 2.500 1.350
    8.750 X 2.500 1.350
    9.500 X 3.00 1.480

    ------------------------------------------------
    DHX 3.0/4.0 IFP Depth:
    ------------------------------------------------

    I2I - Stroke: Depth (inches):

    7.50 X 2.00 1.150
    7.875 X 2.00 1.150
    7.875 X 2.25 1.200
    8.50 X 2.500 1.250
    8.75 X 2.500 1.250
    8.75 X 2.750 1.250
    9.00 X 2.500 1.250
    9.00 X 2.750 1.375
  • 03-26-2010
    ramonet
    Hello someone make a service change oils in a fox float air shock? Is it necessary to add nitrogen later or only refill even above(up) without air bubbles?
    thanks a lot, excuse for my english.
  • 03-29-2010
    Blofeld
    IFP Tuning?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nick_M2R
    DHX 3.0/4.0 IFP Depth:
    ------------------------------------------------

    I2I - Stroke: Depth (inches):

    7.50 X 2.00 1.150
    7.875 X 2.00 1.150
    7.875 X 2.25 1.200
    8.50 X 2.500 1.250
    8.75 X 2.500 1.250
    8.75 X 2.750 1.250
    9.00 X 2.500 1.250
    9.00 X 2.750 1.375

    Is it possible to tune the bottom out response of a DHX 3.0/4.0 by adjusting the IFP depth? If so, what sort of changes will result from raising or lowering the piston?

    Thanks for creating a very useful guide! :thumbsup:
  • 03-29-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Increasing the depth will increase the volume of the boost valve, making the shock more linear.
    Decreasing the depth will decrease the volume of the boost valve, making the shock more progressive

    But be warned, you have to make sure you dont push it to deep (causing it to hit the top of the resi, or to shallow (will knock on the boost valve cap)
  • 04-07-2010
    cesalec
    It is a great guide, though I have a completely newbie, mechanical retarded ingenieur, a term glosary could be great , even a graphic glossary of all the parts, so we all know (those who we have no idea) understand also completely. =):thumbsup:
  • 04-07-2010
    cesalec
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cesalec
    ... I have a completely newbie

    I meant: though I as a complete newbie....
  • 04-07-2010
    Nick_M2R
    hi mate
    what are the terms you'd like to know, ill probably work on a glossary i my spare time

    For know, the terms that i can think of are

    IFP = Internal floating piston
    BO = Bottom out adjust
    PP = Propedal
  • 04-07-2010
    Blofeld
    A list of the small parts could be useful, especially if they could be cross referenced with Fox part numbers to make replacing things easier. If anything, a list of the o-ring sizes would be great to have in the guide to avoid having to run to the hardware store midway through the job.

    In terms of the major components, I thought the photos did a good job showing what was what. It might be interesting to know what is interchangeable between different shock models and sizes, but that's more of a personal curiosity.
  • 04-07-2010
    cesalec
    maybe guides for complete dummys who have absolutely no idea.. would actually be great, lets say, in the engineering world, most of the procurement specifications are done in a way a kid could understand them. At least thats they it should be to avoid daylong meetings with a bunch of engineers who cannot read engineering specifications :P

    I was trying to set my Fox DHX 4.0 on my 2008 Reign 0, Fox manulas were brief, confusing and useless...
  • 04-12-2010
    kman07
    Does anybody know the o-rings sizes on a DHX 5.0 and the stock shim stack?
  • 04-12-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Stock shim stack differs from year to year, i only know the stock shim stack for a 09 DHX 5

    With the o-rings, its best to take the old ones to a supply store and have them sized for new ones, ensures you get the correct size ones

    Main reason i dont bother with measuring and posting the sizes is because i dont got a good set calipers, and the conversion between metric and imperial is annoying (when are you americans gonna see the light and swap to metric!!!!)
  • 04-12-2010
    kman07
    I found the o-ring sizes, I have already bought them but I just wanted to doubt check that they weren't metric. I have a 2009 DHX 5.0 so I would love it if you could post up the shim stack.
  • 04-13-2010
    Wil109
    Does anyone have a piccie of a 2008 DHX 4.0 Coil Shocks stock shim stack (say that quickly after 5 beers).

    I goosed my shock and the shim stack came apart. Since putting in back together several different ways I can't seem to get the rebound quite right...... anyone any tips.... at all..... please.....

    All the best and thanks for any replies (helpful or constructive ones tho :thumbsup:)
  • 04-13-2010
    Nick_M2R
    1 Attachment(s)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kman07
    I found the o-ring sizes, I have already bought them but I just wanted to doubt check that they weren't metric. I have a 2009 DHX 5.0 so I would love it if you could post up the shim stack.

    Righto, here is a pic of the stock shim stack on my 09 DHX, the far left washer is the black steel back plate, between that and the piston is the compression stack, then on the right of the piston is the rebound stack, followed by the piston bolt, make sure that when reassemble the stack, that the flat side of the piston faces down

    Hope it helps!
  • 04-13-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wil109
    Does anyone have a piccie of a 2008 DHX 4.0 Coil Shocks stock shim stack (say that quickly after 5 beers).

    I goosed my shock and the shim stack came apart. Since putting in back together several different ways I can't seem to get the rebound quite right...... anyone any tips.... at all..... please.....

    All the best and thanks for any replies (helpful or constructive ones tho :thumbsup:)

    Wont be able to give you any promises, but ill have a poke around and see if i can come up with anything :thumbsup:
  • 04-13-2010
    kman07
    Well, There must be different tunes of the DHX... This site is different than yours http://ukmb.net/forum/index.php?topic=37675.0;wap2

    And mine is different than both.

    Mine goes

    Washer

    10.30x0.38mm
    15.25x0.25mm
    22.85x0.38mm
    22.85x0.38mm
    22.85x0.38mm COMPRESSION
    12.70x0.25mm
    20.25x0.25mm
    22.85x0.25mm

    Piston


    17.85x0.38mm
    17.85x0.38mm
    17.85x0.38mm
    15.25x0.25mm
    15.25x0.25mm REBOUND
    12.70x0.25mm
    12.70x0.25mm
    10.30x0.38mm

    Small Washer
  • 04-13-2010
    kman07
    Nick_M2R What are the dimensions of your shock?
  • 04-13-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Mine is 8.5 x 2.5, i purchased mine on ebay from a guy who got them direct from fox, and i believe it may have been tuned for the leverage ratio of my stinky, 2.8:1, this may explain the difference from yours, i have heard of the stack differing across the board for the shock
  • 04-13-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Also, i wouldnt trust some parts of the repair instructions on that site, threadlocking the piston bolt is a bad idea, if you get threadlock on the shims, which is quite easy to do, you will threadlock your shims together, which will damage you shock....
  • 04-13-2010
    kman07
    It may just have to do with length too, mine is a 9.5x3.0 I might shoot push and fox an email.

    Yeah im not using those instructions I was just referring to the shim stack.
  • 04-13-2010
    Nick_M2R
    No probs mate, sorry i couldnt be of more help, let us know how it goes!
  • 04-14-2010
    kman07
    Turns out there are multiple tunes and they vary with length. I've contacted a local suspension tuner for a quick recommendation and I'm about to try it out.

    One more thing, the IFP depth.. Is it measured from the flat part of the piston or the little nipple thing?
  • 04-14-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kman07
    Turns out there are multiple tunes and they vary with length. I've contacted a local suspension tuner for a quick recommendation and I'm about to try it out.

    One more thing, the IFP depth.. Is it measured from the flat part of the piston or the little nipple thing?

    Flats of the IFP
  • 04-22-2010
    arekieh
    k quick question,
    How can i tell if my shock needs a rebuild? I just bought my bike from a guy in the states and its in much worse condition than he said it was :( (he still hasnt replied to my emails).

    Anyways, the shock feels fine but the propedal adjustment and all the nobs feel super gritty. I thought rebuilding would be pretty easy but from the looks of it its a pretty big job. Im fine with doing it but i dont want to do it needlessly.
  • 04-22-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by arekieh
    k quick question,
    How can i tell if my shock needs a rebuild? I just bought my bike from a guy in the states and its in much worse condition than he said it was :( (he still hasnt replied to my emails).

    Anyways, the shock feels fine but the propedal adjustment and all the nobs feel super gritty. I thought rebuilding would be pretty easy but from the looks of it its a pretty big job. Im fine with doing it but i dont want to do it needlessly.

    If only the adjustment knobs are gritty, then simple (for the propedal) remove the screw that is onto of the propedal knob, remove the adjuster (watch out for the detent balls) clean all the dirt out, regrease the balls and their races, then reassemble, same goes for the Bottom out adjuster. Loosen the grub screws on the side of the adjuster, remove it, clean, lightly grease, then reassemble.

    A shock generally needs to be rebuilt or rebleed when you hear alot of squelching when cycling the shock, which means air has mixed itself with the oil
  • 04-22-2010
    arekieh
    ahh ok makes sense. thanks alot.

    Your guide is awesome btw. definitely saving it
  • 04-22-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by arekieh
    ahh ok makes sense. thanks alot.

    Your guide is awesome btw. definitely saving it

    Cheers mate!
    Glad you find it helpful :thumbsup:
  • 06-08-2010
    lukesheffield
    Hi

    The guide is really really good and have dissasembled the shock and rebuilt it due to an ongoing leak behind the pro pedal adjuster, I thought all was sorted..... but unfortuntely the pro pedal is back to leaking again......

    On dissasembling the pro-pedal, I found some more bits than were not in the photo from enemy1 (I should have taken photos.... doh)....anyway there was a hex shaft that comes in from the adjuster, then there was a small piece threaded on the outside with a hex cut out in the middle where the shaft of the adjuster fits, this then fitted in via a left hand thread, into a slightly larger piece which had threads both inside and outside..... I replaced an additional o-ring where the adjuster hex shaft part comes into the housing..... but its still leaking..... I tried getting the reservior off but its on bloody tight and I didnt want to damage it...... will dissasemble the whole thing and try more heating!! my wooden blocks have cracked so probably need to get some better wood......

    Do you have any more propedal diagrams / photos...... I put these things back in the order 'I thought' they came out ..... just hope they are in right!! Any tips on getting reservoir housing off.

    Ps is there any way of working out the year of the shock

    Thanks
  • 06-09-2010
    lukesheffield
  • 06-09-2010
    Nick_M2R
    No probs luke
    Glad to hear you like the guide
    With regards to the extra propedal bits, i assume your talking about the internals of the DHX adjuster? For my next update, i plan to simply drill out a hex key so that i can remove the adjuster and get to that propedal o-ring

    With regards to removing the chamber, all i can recommend is that you use a high quality hardwood for the clamps (I used some of cuts of Australian river redgum) Softwood wont do it. Then just try giving it some more heat, but be careful!

    Let us know how it goes, and if you find any other things inside the DHX let us know!
    Cheers!
  • 06-10-2010
    lukesheffield
    Right its stopped leaking from the pro-pedal..... The pro pedal adjuster holder that is tightnened down using the custom 8mm allen key thing had come loose and wasnt sitting against the o ring, which was slightly damaged.

    I tried drilling and dremeling an 8mm allen key but its way too hard (need a crap soft poundland set). So instead I got a M10 bolt and ground the threads down to 8mm hex then drilled that out, much easier but its a bit soft. Did the job tho. Found after first fitting the pro pedal needs to be full in as otherwise when doing up the holding piece the adjsuter locks out on the adjuster shaft.

    Thanks again for the guide.
  • 06-10-2010
    PissedOffCil
    Hey, I used your guide to maintain my DHX3 and all went good (apart from having a hard time unscrewing the main body) so thanks a lot for putting this together!
  • 07-07-2010
    dukenz
    N2 charged DHX - convert to air charged?
    Nick,

    Great step by step guide, thanks. My DHX 5 stripped is down apart from rebound and shaft - more heating and hardwood block I suspect. :madmax:

    A question, you mentioned some DHX (4?) that were fitted to Spec'd that didnt have the air valve for bottom out adjustment - these were nitrogen charged and blank grub screwed off.

    My question is, if you take the nylon blank out of the allen key hitting in the grub screw, is it not simply a matter of gently unscrewing this to release the nitrogen charge behind it ie before it flies out the charge will release? Then you can service as normal? If you then replace the grub screw with the normal air valve, that effectively makes it a DHX 4.

    Just a thought.

    Also more than happy to help you with glossary project if you want. How about an exploded diagram with labels (DHX5 coil) with O ring sizes?

    Cheers
    Duncan
  • 07-21-2010
    mtnbikinggolfer
    i was just wondering if i can still use this on my '10 totem solo air. my problem isnt bottoming out too much, its that the last inch of my rebound hardly ever is used. it doesn't have a floodgate so i believe its the DH one. sorry i dont completely understand this yet but could i just put on some slightly smaller shims?
  • 07-21-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtnbikinggolfer
    i was just wondering if i can still use this on my '10 totem solo air. my problem isnt bottoming out too much, its that the last inch of my rebound hardly ever is used. it doesn't have a floodgate so i believe its the DH one. sorry i dont completely understand this yet but could i just put on some slightly smaller shims?

    Um i think you placed this in the wrong thread, this is for the DHX rebuild, not the mission control tuning
  • 07-25-2010
    mtnbikinggolfer
    ugh lol fail
  • 09-02-2010
    jvaughn75
    FOX DHX 4.0 Shims
    I've read this post and it is absolutely fantastic! One question though; there is mention of the shim stack being in a different order for different years and bikes and such. How can I determine the year my shock was made?

    I rebuilt my shock this past spring, and during the ride after, the piston bolt came loose and the shims fell off. So I disassembled it again and reassembled it, but now I have no rebound. From what I've read so far here and other forums, the shims being in the wrong order can cause rebound issues. I bought my bike off ebay and I believe the frame is 2002 0r 2003, and I am only assuming that the shock is stock. Any help is greatly appreciated! :D
  • 09-06-2010
    Wil109
    Hi jvaughn75,

    Like you I screwed up my shim stack by not having it tight enough. Even lost one of the medium sized shims due to damage.

    Check this link out, I tried to follow the stack setup as closely as possible and find that I get decent rebound damping, I know its a different shock size and a dhx 5.0 but you gotta start somewhere.

    http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=132295

    I don't think its quite the same as the stock setup but I quite like it. I'm due to service my shock in a few weeks and will post my shim stack on a separate thread in this forum. I think it would be interesting to catalogue the different setups.

    Would be super handy to have others post to it.

    Good luck,

    Wil
  • 09-06-2010
    jvaughn75
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wil109
    Hi jvaughn75,

    Like you I screwed up my shim stack by not having it tight enough. Even lost one of the medium sized shims due to damage.

    Check this link out, I tried to follow the stack setup as closely as possible and find that I get decent rebound damping, I know its a different shock size and a dhx 5.0 but you gotta start somewhere.

    http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=132295

    I don't think its quite the same as the stock setup but I quite like it. I'm due to service my shock in a few weeks and will post my shim stack on a separate thread in this forum. I think it would be interesting to catalogue the different setups.

    Would be super handy to have others post to it.

    Good luck,

    Wil

    Thanks for the info. I re-did my shim stack yesterday, following the picture in this post as best as I could (some of the shims are different sizes). Rebound is pretty slow, even on the fastest rebound setting, but it will work for now. However, my compression is like the guy's the forum you posted, soft over small bumps and stiff for the big hits. It might just take a little getting used to, but I think I will like this way. The only thing I would change now is the make the rebound more adjustable, but that will wait for the next rebuild.

    I would post the dimensions of my shims and the order, but I do not have a dial caliper (yet). I will pick one up someday and measure them and post back here. Thanks again for the tip!
    :thumbsup:
  • 09-24-2010
    adamantane
    how about the vanilla RC...can you show me the rebuild on that bad boy...thanks
  • 09-24-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamantane
    how about the vanilla RC...can you show me the rebuild on that bad boy...thanks

    Are you referring to the old van RC's from the early 2000's or the new 2011 VAN RC?

    If your referring to the new one, the rebuild should be almost identical to the DHX, as they are built off of the same chassis.

    HOWEVER

    the thing stopping me from recommending you do it is that the VAN RC has no air valve, it has a nitro charge in it, and to refill this, you need a special adaptor to fill the gas through a rubber plug
  • 09-27-2010
    adamantane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nick_M2R
    Are you referring to the old van RC's from the early 2000's or the new 2011 VAN RC?

    If your referring to the new one, the rebuild should be almost identical to the DHX, as they are built off of the same chassis.

    HOWEVER

    the thing stopping me from recommending you do it is that the VAN RC has no air valve, it has a nitro charge in it, and to refill this, you need a special adaptor to fill the gas through a rubber plug

    yeah, i'm talking the older vanilla rc's...i bet you have a special tool built for the N2 charge, a pic of that would be nice...some kind of syringe needle i bet...oh and what do you use for the rubber plug
  • 09-28-2010
    dfrazm
    1 Attachment(s)
    DHX Convert 2.0 to 2.25
    So I have a 2008 DHX 5.0 that is 7.875 X 2.0. I just bought a 2008 DHX 3.0 that is 7.875 X 2.25 (yes, this will work with my frame) My question is this:

    I am going to remove the body and piston shaft from the 3.0 and put it onto the piggyback reservoir of the 5.0 so that I still have PP and bottom out. Your guide shows great detail about opening up the bottom out chamber so that I can bleed at the end, and removing the main piston, but does not state how to remove the shock body (from the end of the shock body where it transfers from "silver threading" of the shock body to black housing of the piggyback). Do I just need to clamp the eyelets into a vice and unscrew the body with a strap wrench? What I am trying to achieve is shown below (shock body that houses the piston removed from the black piggyback chamber:Attachment 571209
  • 09-28-2010
    d-dsn
    Pushed DHX 5.0
    Does anybody know if Pushed DHX 5.0 needs special o-rings or special service? I've scheduled to complete the rebuild during next month or so, but first I need to obtain all the needed o-rings.
    My shock hasn't been leaking, but I've been running it for 3 years with no service. I guess there's no option to rebuild it without replacing the o-rings?

    Thanks!
  • 10-01-2010
    d-dsn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by d-dsn
    Does anybody know if Pushed DHX 5.0 needs special o-rings or special service? I've scheduled to complete the rebuild during next month or so, but first I need to obtain all the needed o-rings.
    My shock hasn't been leaking, but I've been running it for 3 years with no service. I guess there's no option to rebuild it without replacing the o-rings?

    Thanks!

    Quoting myself,
    I emailed TFTuned and asked about differences in o-rings between Fox and Push. Dimensions are identical, but Push uses o-rings with higher quality material and they should give better sealing.
    Long story short, Pushed DHX CAN be rebuild with standard Fox-sized o-rings.

    Does anyone have a slightest idea about the "standard" or "better" rubber materials used in o-rings? If I'd just go to a o-ring retailer and ask seals for suspension, which type (material) of seals are they offering me?
  • 10-01-2010
    dukenz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by d-dsn
    Quoting myself,
    I emailed TFTuned and asked about differences in o-rings between Fox and Push. Dimensions are identical, but Push uses o-rings with higher quality material and they should give better sealing.
    Long story short, Pushed DHX CAN be rebuild with standard Fox-sized o-rings.

    Does anyone have a slightest idea about the "standard" or "better" rubber materials used in o-rings? If I'd just go to a o-ring retailer and ask seals for suspension, which type (material) of seals are they offering me?

    FWIW: Standard and better are relative terms given the application. Tables of materials and applications are all over the internet (for example: http://www.marcorubber.com/material_chart.htm)


    You could take the rings from the TFTuned shock into the o ring shop (find a good quality industrial supply shop) when you service it. They should be able to tell the material type.

    Otherwise suggest calling TFTuned and asking the oring material types. They may not tell you as I suspect what materials they use and where, is proprietary (ie from their lots of research they may have determined which oring material works best in which location). Do TFTuned sell a service kit?
  • 10-01-2010
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dfrazm
    So I have a 2008 DHX 5.0 that is 7.875 X 2.0. I just bought a 2008 DHX 3.0 that is 7.875 X 2.25 (yes, this will work with my frame) My question is this:

    I am going to remove the body and piston shaft from the 3.0 and put it onto the piggyback reservoir of the 5.0 so that I still have PP and bottom out. Your guide shows great detail about opening up the bottom out chamber so that I can bleed at the end, and removing the main piston, but does not state how to remove the shock body (from the end of the shock body where it transfers from "silver threading" of the shock body to black housing of the piggyback). Do I just need to clamp the eyelets into a vice and unscrew the body with a strap wrench? What I am trying to achieve is shown below (shock body that houses the piston removed from the black piggyback chamber:Attachment 571209

    Hi mate
    Sorry for the late reply

    With regards to removing the the body, first i would check to see it the body is the same length, because i have a suspicion that the body of the 2 shocks will be the same, but the shafts will be different (one will be slightly long)

    I had the same issue as you, the i have a 8.5/2.5 DHX 5 but the new bighit 2 frame i got came with a 8.75/2.75 shock, but i found the body was the same on the two, and only the shafts differed, so its a simple matter of just removing the shock from the old one, swapping the piston and shims over, the reinstalling it into the new one

    Otherwise to remove it, you would need to make some shaft clamps out of some hardwood, tighten her up good, heat the area were the bridge and body join (and when i say heat, i mean GENTLY heat) then use a breaker bar through the top eyelet and unscrew it

    Hope this helps!
    :thumbsup:
  • 10-04-2010
    CrustyOne
    Great Job on the guide Nick


    MODS!!!........................why the hell isnt this a sticky????????
  • 10-04-2010
    dfrazm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nick_M2R
    Hi mate
    Sorry for the late reply

    With regards to removing the the body, first i would check to see it the body is the same length, because i have a suspicion that the body of the 2 shocks will be the same, but the shafts will be different (one will be slightly long)

    I had the same issue as you, the i have a 8.5/2.5 DHX 5 but the new bighit 2 frame i got came with a 8.75/2.75 shock, but i found the body was the same on the two, and only the shafts differed, so its a simple matter of just removing the shock from the old one, swapping the piston and shims over, the reinstalling it into the new one

    Otherwise to remove it, you would need to make some shaft clamps out of some hardwood, tighten her up good, heat the area were the bridge and body join (and when i say heat, i mean GENTLY heat) then use a breaker bar through the top eyelet and unscrew it

    Hope this helps!
    :thumbsup:

    Right on! Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately they DO have different lengths in the shaft and the body. They are the same i2i length, so with the different travel the 7.875 X 2.25 stroke has a shorter body and longer shaft than the 7.875 X 2.0 stroke. I rode the 7.875 X 2.25 stroke this weekend (the 3.0) and I think I am only going to steal the bottom out adjuster from the 5.0 and add it to the 3.0 (thus making it a 4.0, but with bottom out instead of the propedal). Changing over the bottom out adjuster will be a piece of cake as I will not have to bleed the thing (I don't have to remove the IFP). Thanks again for all your help and an incredible tutorial!
  • 10-04-2010
    peterpiper
    Not sure if this is the correct place to ask? I've a DHX 3 and it seems to be losing air. I've stuck in a bucket of water and there is a very small re occurring bubble around the bottom of the valve where it screws into the piggy back body. It's not in the PDF as far as I can see. Would there be a seal in there to replace or could I use something to put on the theads to seal the leak? I don't think loctite is a good idea? or plumbers tape for that matter? I presume there is no harm in remvoing the valve once de pressurised either?
  • 11-07-2010
    chandhole
    Hey everyone,

    Just completed the DHX 5.0 rebuild for my 2006 model. It went reasonably well. The shock is performing like new again. I wanted to share some info.

    1) I used 10w Motul(medium) Motorcycle Suspension Oil and it seems to be working well.
    2) The hydraulics industrial supply store I sourced the o-rings from gave me a pretty detailed invoice so I'm providing the size of o-ring and step it is from. I didn't replace every o-ring because I didn't take the two tubes off of the black top bit and I wasn't able to source two that I did have access to; a) the o-ring on the back side of the Propedal piece held in by the snap ring and b) the little o-ring on the end of the main shaft on the rebound adjuster end.

    All o-rings are imperial sizes and made of 70 durometer nitrile rubber. ID = inner diameter, OD = outer diameter

    Step 8:
    Main Shaft O-ring: ID. 1/2 OD. 3/4 (industry ID code 2-206)
    Shaft housing O-ring: ID. 1 OD. 1-1/8 (industry ID code 2-022)

    Step 10 -70/71:
    Black bottom-out plunger O-ring: ID.7/8 OD. 1-1/6 (industry ID code 2-118)
    Grey bottom-out housing inner O-ring: ID. 11/16 OD. 13/16 (industry ID code 2-017)

    Step 11:
    IFP O-ring: ID. 13/16 OD. 1-1/16 (industry ID code 2-211)
    Grey bottom-out housing O-ring: ID. 1 OD. 1-1/8 (industry ID code 2-022)

    I bought 5 of each and it cost me $9 with tax. Lucky for me the orange/yellow dust seal is in good shape as I was not able to find a replacement.

    Hope you find this helpful.

    p.s. don't mess up that shim stack order! :)
  • 01-16-2011
    ehrhard
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nick_M2R
    Increasing the depth will increase the volume of the boost valve, making the shock more linear.
    Decreasing the depth will decrease the volume of the boost valve, making the shock more progressive

    But be warned, you have to make sure you dont push it to deep (causing it to hit the top of the resi, or to shallow (will knock on the boost valve cap)

    hello Nick
    first, thanks a lot for these guide and updates !!!!
    my question is about IFP depth
    I put the right deph you're advising, pump my dhx 4.0 at 140psi and mount it without spring on my bike: OK the shock goes on the max of it's travel
    but when I'm riding and tacking big hits (like big freeride landings) I can see that the shock stops everytime on around 1.5" from the max travel
    do you think that with high speed compressions, there is a larger volume of oil that push the IFP and then it hits the top of the boost valve cap?

    Secondly how did you separate the boost valve carboy from the main shock body?

    sorry for my bad english cause I'm french haha
    thanks again !
    Adrien
  • 01-16-2011
    ehrhard
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nick_M2R
    Hi mate
    Sorry for the late reply

    With regards to removing the the body, first i would check to see it the body is the same length, because i have a suspicion that the body of the 2 shocks will be the same, but the shafts will be different (one will be slightly long)

    I had the same issue as you, the i have a 8.5/2.5 DHX 5 but the new bighit 2 frame i got came with a 8.75/2.75 shock, but i found the body was the same on the two, and only the shafts differed, so its a simple matter of just removing the shock from the old one, swapping the piston and shims over, the reinstalling it into the new one

    Otherwise to remove it, you would need to make some shaft clamps out of some hardwood, tighten her up good, heat the area were the bridge and body join (and when i say heat, i mean GENTLY heat) then use a breaker bar through the top eyelet and unscrew it

    Hope this helps!
    :thumbsup:


    Hello Nick
    in the IFP body (excepted IFP travel adjustment), is there something to tune by ourself to improving high speed compression resistance and lowering slow speed resistance (propedal)?
    because I'm looking for better sensitivity and a better high speed braking at the same time... but I've never separated the IFP body from the main shock body, so I don't know what's inside and what's possible to customize !

    thanks a lot
    Adrien
  • 01-16-2011
    Nick_M2R
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ehrhard
    Hello Nick
    in the IFP body (excepted IFP travel adjustment), is there something to tune by ourself to improving high speed compression resistance and lowering slow speed resistance (propedal)?
    because I'm looking for better sensitivity and a better high speed braking at the same time... but I've never separated the IFP body from the main shock body, so I don't know what's inside and what's possible to customize !

    thanks a lot
    Adrien

    Hi Adrien!

    One thing ive heard of doing is removing the propedal spring, which turns it into a platformless style shock, which will drastically increase its sensitivity, however i have never performed nor know the complete procedure on how to do it properly.

    Other than that you will probably have to start mucking with the shim stack, which im in the process of learning how to do, but until ive cracked it, im not gonna give much advce on it because i dont wanna risk giving the wrong advice and damaging your shock

    Your only 100% reliable option is to send it to PUSH industries, hope this helps
  • 01-17-2011
    ehrhard
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nick_M2R
    Hi Adrien!

    One thing ive heard of doing is removing the propedal spring, which turns it into a platformless style shock, which will drastically increase its sensitivity, however i have never performed nor know the complete procedure on how to do it properly.

    Other than that you will probably have to start mucking with the shim stack, which im in the process of learning how to do, but until ive cracked it, im not gonna give much advce on it because i dont wanna risk giving the wrong advice and damaging your shock

    Your only 100% reliable option is to send it to PUSH industries, hope this helps

    Thanks Nick
    i'm going to see it, can you explain me a bit more how access to the propedal spring? do we have to unmount the reservoir from the main shock body (in that case how)?

    I've read again your dhx servicing manual, you talked about that, but I'm sorry I didn't understand quite well (I'm french) sorry haha

    thanks a lot
  • 03-21-2011
    Carraig042
    Great How-To! I will have to do this before long.

    One thing though, you said to "Reinflate the boost valve to a minimum of 125PSI." Is that correct? The manual that came with my 2006 DHX 5.0 says a Maximum of 125 PSI.

    -Brett
  • 03-25-2011
    gusvar
    I can supply a set of shore A 70 Buna (AKA; oil resistent o-rings, the type you want) for 08 or later not sure if set will work with older. PM if interested. Same disclaimers apply of course

    order here on MTBR
    http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showprod...?product=62674
  • 03-25-2011
    Dougal
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamantane
    how about the vanilla RC...can you show me the rebuild on that bad boy...thanks

    They're not as user-friendly to rebuild as the DHX. Not only due to the missing schrader valve but also there's no bleed screw in the middle of the floating piston. I also had problems with the shock body and reservoir body unscrewing instead of the caps unscrewing. I had to make some collet-clamps to hold them tightly without damage.

    But otherwise all the same methods apply, if you can rebuild one you can rebuild the other. You can make an air needle from a syringe needle, a ball needle and some epoxy. But you need to crimp the ends otherwise they simply take a core-sample from the rubber plug and block themselves up.
  • 03-25-2011
    Dougal
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jvaughn75
    Thanks for the info. I re-did my shim stack yesterday, following the picture in this post as best as I could (some of the shims are different sizes). Rebound is pretty slow, even on the fastest rebound setting, but it will work for now. However, my compression is like the guy's the forum you posted, soft over small bumps and stiff for the big hits. It might just take a little getting used to, but I think I will like this way. The only thing I would change now is the make the rebound more adjustable, but that will wait for the next rebuild.

    I would post the dimensions of my shims and the order, but I do not have a dial caliper (yet). I will pick one up someday and measure them and post back here. Thanks again for the tip!
    :thumbsup:

    Turning the single stage stack into a dual stage. It can have some benefits but also some big downsides. It greatly reduces low speed compression damping (i.e. more wallow) but keeps most of your high speed compression damping. The result works best for a shock that deals with the extremes, light damping at low shaft speeds (follows small rolling bumps okay) but still takes a lot of energy out of fast hits.

    But there are a lot of situations it doesn't work well in, like those with a lot of short sharp impacts. In those it ends up wallowing due to the riders body movements and then spiking over all the bumps. You can find it wasting a lot of the travel due to undulations rather than bumps.

    Just remember low speed damping does not equal small bumps only and high speed damping does not equal big hits only. We're dealing with a whole spectrum of terrain where small high speed impacts and large low speed impacts both exist. It's about tuning the shock to fit where and how you ride.

    For where and how I like to ride a digressive shim stack on both compression and rebound works best. I tried multi-stage shim-stacks a few years ago and found the wallow-spike-wallow-wallow-spike didn't do it for me.
    The digressive stacks give lots of stability due to the higher low speed compression and let the suspension react a lot quicker than stock in both compression and rebound. It works for me.
  • 04-09-2011
    Nick_M2R
    OK guys, have got a few emails regarding people having issues with the original link

    I have uploaded the file to my own website which i am in the process of creating
    MTBMechanics.webs.com which has all of my guides in one place, plus reviews of various products. Please note it is not fully finished yet, but i hope to have it all done soon

    LINK

    http://mtbmechanics.webs.com/foxdhxcoilrebuild.htm
  • 05-03-2011
    Turtle01
    Hello,

    I saw a DHX rebuild kit on eBay. Does anybody know if that kit is complete or any good? Has anybody here actually used that kit?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Fox-DHX-3-4-5-co...#ht_770wt_1139

    I'm contemplating doing the rebuild myself since the cost to send it out seems quite absorbent.

    Thanks.
  • 06-08-2011
    null
    i have bought a fox dhx 5.0 pushed for 180 lbs rider. i am 210-220. do you think i will have problems?
  • 09-01-2011
    darkzeon
    Hey Nick,

    Just changed oil on 3, yes three, DHX yesterday using your guide, I'm banging my head why I have not done it sooner!

    The oil on those were muck filthy! All 3 were 8.5x2.5 from a Quake, Bighit (2010), and a Demo 7.

    The IFP depths from the Quake and Bighit measured at 35mm. Mine (Demo7) was only 26mm!, I was a bit surprised, was it intentional i.e. the shock tune for the demo? I understand that this would make the shock more linear?
  • 01-01-2012
    alifrayza
    thank a lot...
  • 01-01-2012
    tacubaya
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkzeon View Post
    Hey Nick,

    Just changed oil on 3, yes three, DHX yesterday using your guide, I'm banging my head why I have not done it sooner!

    The oil on those were muck filthy! All 3 were 8.5x2.5 from a Quake, Bighit (2010), and a Demo 7.

    The IFP depths from the Quake and Bighit measured at 35mm. Mine (Demo7) was only 26mm!, I was a bit surprised, was it intentional i.e. the shock tune for the demo? I understand that this would make the shock more linear?

    That would make the shock more progressive.
  • 01-01-2012
    staikeinthahood
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tacubaya View Post
    That would make the shock more progressive.

    Why? In my understanding a bigger air volume means that the shock will be more linear. Same thing as turning the 'bottom out' knob in theory. Right?
  • 01-01-2012
    tacubaya
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by staikeinthahood View Post
    Why? In my understanding a bigger air volume means that the shock will be more linear. Same thing as turning the 'bottom out' knob in theory. Right?

    Yes, more air volume = more linear. You said your Demo shock came with a shallow IFP depth, that means less air volume = progressive.
  • 01-02-2012
    staikeinthahood
    Oops, I was sure I read 56 mm. My bad. :)

    I rebuilt my DHX 4.0 today, worked great. Now I have a spare shock. The shock came stock on a Trek Session, which is "custom "DH race tuned" according to Trek. But what is custom? The shimstack? IFP depth was the normal one, 38 mm.
  • 01-02-2012
    tacubaya
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by staikeinthahood View Post
    Oops, I was sure I read 56 mm. My bad. :)

    I rebuilt my DHX 4.0 today, worked great. Now I have a spare shock. The shock came stock on a Trek Session, which is "custom "DH race tuned" according to Trek. But what is custom? The shimstack? IFP depth was the normal one, 38 mm.

    Yeah, the valving.
  • 04-17-2012
    maximek77
    Hey

    Does any one have Default SHIMS setup for DHX 3.0 241mm ? I messed up during reassemblly and wondering does i did that in the wrong way.

    Also maybe someone will be ale to tell me what's going wrong if the piston screw is screwed too tighten.

    Thanks
  • 04-18-2012
    staikeinthahood
    If you tighten it too much the shims won't flex when they are supposed to and the shock will spike.
  • 04-18-2012
    maximek77
    Thanks for an explanation.

    I'm going to check it today. Have to remove damper from the bike and de-asemblly and check shims configuration and during re-assemblly check piston screw tension.
  • 04-18-2012
    maximek77
    I did that.
    I'll post details with pictures shortly (now is working almost perfect) with one question mark... But i'll tell you later today what i was discovered :)
  • 07-23-2012
    juanpkumicho
    no air pressure
    Hi guys,

    First, want to thank Nick for a GREAT write up.

    Then, my doubt. I have a Pushed DHX 5.0 that came in my used Ironhorse Sunday Team 2008 that I bought on ebay in 2010.

    I don't know anything about the bike before me owning it. I know the shock was Pushed because it has the sticker.

    Now, I understand that if the shock came OEM in a Sunday, it has a special tuning (or so says Dave Weagle), particular for the Sunday, that Fox did. I don't think this is the OEM shock, so I GUESS that is why the previous owner had it Pushed. Anyhow, whether it is the OEM or not, I suppose it was Pushed for the Sunday. Recently I spent a lot of time without riding (because I moved to another country and had snapped my Boxxer in half and bla bla bla) and after almost a year, I finnally got a chance to ride, boosted the shock up to my usual setup and went for a ride.
    A week after, I noticed the bike had a little "play" in the shock area but all the links were fine so I thought it may be the airpressure and indeed there was no pressure at all.
    So I have a leak. The next 3 days it has been losing like 30 psi overnight (consistently, 3 days in a row). I haven't tested (will do it this night afterwork) how much psi does my pump sucks in when connected, but from what I read it shouldn't be more than 15 or maybe 20.
    I am pretty sure I may have ridden the bike without air pressure in the shock at the end of the day that time I rode, maybe, of this I am not sure. But I am sure I cycled the shock many times while on the bike because I was searching for this "play".

    So all I find is that, if you ride it like that (without air pressure), you need to re bleed the shock and stuff. Is that really true? Because if oil cavitates (which is just a change of phase due to pressure) it should go back to the liquid phase after cooling down and the bike laying there for days. Now, if it sucked air in (is this possible as a consequence of no pressure?), that is a problem.

    Let me know what you guys think. Another option is send it back to Push, but I really like doing this things and don't fear them at all. I also wouldn't like to spend the money Push charges for it, and even more important if I don't have to do any rebuild I rather just boost it up (maybe solve the shcradder valve leak by itself) and go just go ride.

    Thanks in advance to you all and keep a good post like this up.
  • 07-30-2012
    juanpkumicho
    air leak
    OK, so I tested two things:

    1. The shock pump takes about 20 to 25 psi when I connect it. This number may seem a little high, but I am not surprised since I did these tests with the bottom out all the way in, so the volume in the boost chamber is smaller than with the bottom out completely open.

    2. I sumerged the shock in water and indeed there is a very small air leak in the Schrader valve. The air does not seem to come out of the Schrader but from its outside diameter, suggesting that the leak is between the valve and the boost chamber body.

    I still have the question about the re bleeding if the shock is cycled without air pressure.
  • 08-20-2012
    stamatis
    Hello , any service guide for Fox DHX 5 Air?
  • 08-21-2012
    tune
    I have done DHX Air service like this: http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspen...ed-491668.html

    Works nicely and quite easy to bleed that shock properly.
  • 09-29-2012
    LowLow
    I'm not able to unscrew the cap to get inside the shock body (step 4 in the manual) using an adjustable wrench. Its torqued very tightly. I tried torching it a bit but still haven't any success. Does anyone have a solution to this? Would getting a 25mm cone wrench help? It was pushed 4 years ago but hasn't had any maintenance since.

    I don't really want to pay to have this rebuilt. Assuming i cant get the cap off, if I fill the piggyback with new oil, will it make it's way back into the body? Or am I stuck having to get it rebuilt now that there's no oil in the shock?
  • 10-01-2012
    null
    no, you cannot fill the piggy.that will not get oil in main chamber or at least will have some air left in the oil,wich is not good.:nono:
  • 10-01-2012
    J:
    where the heck is the rc4 version on this service?
  • 10-01-2012
    LowLow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by null View Post
    no, you cannot fill the piggy.that will not get oil in main chamber or at least will have some air left in the oil,wich is not good.:nono:

    Thanks for the info.

    Here's a tip to make it a bit easier to deal with rebuilding a shock. Put the shock body in a 31.8mm stem and put the stem in the vice. Works great. I managed to get the shaft cap off with this method using a dedicated 25 mm wrench. :thumbsup:

    Now, hopefully I'll be able to do the oil change without screwing anything up.
  • 11-25-2012
    johnsamsung10
    Hi there. I have a fox dhx rc4 and was wanting to just change the oil, which steps should I follow as I don't want to do a complete rebuild
    Thanks
  • 11-29-2012
    juanpkumicho
    Hey LowLow did you succeed in changing the oil there?
  • 11-29-2012
    LowLow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by juanpkumicho View Post
    Hey LowLow did you succeed in changing the oil there?

    I did! I opened the piggyback and got the shaft cap open using the method I posted above, dumped out all of the oil, and just filled it back up again based on the method described in the Nick's tutorial and using some Golden Spectro fork oil. Other than getting the shaft cap open, it was pretty straightforward. But I basically skipped steps 5-11, which means that I didn't replace any of the o-rings or take apart the rebound or propedal assembly. The shock seems to work fine though.

    The only odd thing I noticed when taking apart the shock is that the IFP was set to 15/16" instead of 1.3", which is the default setting for my shock. I had my shock pushed 4 years ago so I thought that maybe that's why it's different. I called Push to confirm, but I guess the way they work on the suspension, the IFP may or may not move from its original position. I'm considering opening the piggyback again and moving the IFP to 1.3" to see how it feels.

    Also, I don't know if the RC4 has the same internal parts as my shock, so I'm not sure if you'll run into issues if you decide to open up your shock.
  • 12-06-2012
    mullen119
    I assume you would bleed a Vanilla RC in the same manor as a DHX since they use the same body?
  • 01-22-2013
    raph11
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nick_M2R View Post
    A little update guys, have been poking round through the files of the fox service site that used to be uploaded here, and have stumbled across this IFP Depth chart

    As you can see, the depths differ for the DHX 3/4 compared to the 5, which makes sense because the increased IFP depth figures for the 5 are compensating for the bottom out adjuster (which is simply a screwable plug that increases or decrease the volume of the boost valve chamber.)

    Here it is, will update the one in the guide soon....
    ------------------------------------------------
    DHX 5.0 Coil IFP Depth:
    ------------------------------------------------

    I2I - Stroke: Depth (inches):

    7.50 X 2.00 1.250
    7.875 X 2.00 1.250
    7.875 X 2.25 1.300
    8.500 X 2.500 1.350
    8.750 X 2.500 1.350
    9.500 X 3.00 1.480

    ------------------------------------------------
    DHX 3.0/4.0 IFP Depth:
    ------------------------------------------------

    I2I - Stroke: Depth (inches):

    7.50 X 2.00 1.150
    7.875 X 2.00 1.150
    7.875 X 2.25 1.200
    8.50 X 2.500 1.250
    8.75 X 2.500 1.250
    8.75 X 2.750 1.250
    9.00 X 2.500 1.250
    9.00 X 2.750 1.375

    Hello, I saw this interesting post but I'd like to know the IFP depth for a DHX RC4 in 9.5 X 3.00 (241mm X 76mm) anyone could give me that please ?
  • 03-17-2013
    raph11
    Just for info, I found some info from suspension tuning companies, they said place the IFP at 3mm from bottom position, some said also not more than 5mm.