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    2015 Fox 36

    Has anyone got any info on the new 2015 Fox 36?

    From what I have seen it looks like they have moved away from using a spring on the air side to using air.

    I think I will have to get one for my new bike when they come out.

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    I would love to see a ride report from anyone. Rumor is that this is the best fork they have released in years. I know they were benchmarking the Pike for ride quality and think they have it beat. The 20 mm through axle is very appealing along with the stouter chassis.

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    It's dropped a lot of weight and it's now lighter than a 34!

    Vital had this interesting feature on it:

    What's Inside The New 2015 FOX 36 Float RC2 Fork? - What's Inside The New 2015 FOX 36 Float RC2 Fork? - Mountain Biking Pictures - Vital MTB

    As you can see no negative spring.

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    With the Pike not having a 170mm 20mm option I am eagerly waiting for the Fox 36 but I am afraid that it will be crazy expensive as usual.

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    I think it looks cool, like the 20mm option and independent hi/lo adjustments, but will reserve judgment until it's been beat on for awhile. Fox's annual marketing schpiel of "last year's forks had lots of issues, but this year's are awesome!" has become a farce (same goes for the annual "first look" reviews that regurgitate the ad copy). The Pike is obviously the fork to beat, if Fox hasn't been benchmarking against it for ride quality for the last several years, what on earth have they been doing?? it'd be great if they hit the mark with this one but frankly I'm surprised people are so optimistic given the recent track record. I'd be much more excited about a new Lyrik that shed some weight and sported the Charger damper, can't imagine it is far off.

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    Leg spacing the same? only want the lowers for the extra arch clearance
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    I agree about the new Lyrik (if and when it will available). I am looking really forward to it and i can't understand why they don't announce it yet. As for Fox I had a 2013 Fox Float that was terrible so I am not getting too excited yet.

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    Hopefully today more information will come out about them.

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    Pinkbike and Bike Rumor have quite a bit of info on the 36 RC2. Sounds like the PinkBike reviewer thinks it matches the Pike when looking at performance.

    Riding FOX's New 36 - First Ride - Pinkbike

    2015 Fox 36 FLOAT Tech Unveiled ? All New, All Air System

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    Honestly I was expecting more. The reviews don't seem to be too enthusiastic.

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    I'm excited about it. The only thing I don't like is the lack of tool less front wheel removal.



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    Fox 36 will for sure be more expensive than Pike that you can now buy around 650 euros so I would expect it to be much better than it instead of just equal in performance as the reviews mention. There are for sure some positive points about the 36 but it seems that the reviewers were not blown away by it.

    Since I am looking for a new 170mm fork and I am willing to spend around 1.000 euros I was eagerly waiting for the 36 but it seems that I need to wait a little bit more for some user reviews as well.

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    Seem pretty positive here. Sounds like the kind of ride I'm looking for. Firm but don't spike.

    2015 Fox Forks, and the new Fox 36 - BikeRadar

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    For sure it sounds better than the previous versions. Also they have more size and axle options than Pike especially for someone like me who wants a 170-180 fork that is not included in the Pike line. Yes there is Lyrik but this is another discussion.

    All good but given the fact that this is a 2015 fork and will cost much more than a Pike I would expect it to outperform it to justify the cost. Anyway I hope that I am wrong and it is a great fork but I won't make any move until I see more reviews. And of course I still wait and hope for a lighter charger damped Lyrik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvs_nz View Post
    Seem pretty positive here. Sounds like the kind of ride I'm looking for. Firm but don't spike.

    2015 Fox Forks, and the new Fox 36 - BikeRadar
    I don't trust them for reviews tbh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    I don't trust them for reviews tbh!
    damn, that is the most in-depth review ive seen on their site. theyre usually super vague and dont really go into details.

    their reviews do suck.

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    Couple of pretty good reviews here:

    Review: New 2015 Fox 36 FLOAT and TALAS fork | Mountain Bike Review

    Testbericht: Fox 36 Float Factory RC2 2015 | Enduro Mountainbike Magazine


    Sounds like a lot of the complaints of earlier 36's have been addressed...

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    Do we have any actual users' reviews?

    To be honest I was expecting some more hype since this is supposed to be a game changer for Fox. Anyway even though I am not so crazy about Fox I am still considering the 36 as an option for my Reign SX especially since Pike doesn't have a 170mm option.

    The positives about Fox 36 is that with the same a2c height I get 180mm instead of 170mm, it can be lowered if I change my bike, it is almost the same weight as a Pike but takes a 20mm axle and the reviews are positive enough.

    My other choice is the Lyrik RC2DH which is much cheaper but also a bit outdated (I think).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    Couple of pretty good reviews here:

    Review: New 2015 Fox 36 FLOAT and TALAS fork | Mountain Bike Review

    Testbericht: Fox 36 Float Factory RC2 2015 | Enduro Mountainbike Magazine


    Sounds like a lot of the complaints of earlier 36's have been addressed...
    From Enduro mag
    "My basic set-up for a rider weight of 70 kg: 78 PSI,"

    That's very linear, even compared to the 2013 RC2.

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    Paris, if you are willing to drop some serious cash, have you ever thought Bos deville as an option?

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    Hi. I have thought about it and I know a guy who has one and is really happy but unfortunately where I come from (Greece) we don't have easy access to official service etc.

    To be honest 1.000 euros are a lot of money for a fork and this is why I would rather prefer a Pike that I can find for only 650 euros but unfortunately there is no 170mm option and Rockshox replied to my question in Facebook that they don't have any immediate plans for a charger damped Lyrik, at least yet.

    So I can keep my Domain RC which is a good enough but really heavy fork or buy the Lyrik RC2DH or spend the extra cash for Fox 36 or keep waiting since I have this feeling that I haven't find yet my dream fork.

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    Just a question, do you need this fork for your Trek Fuel? Looking for freeride/Enduro forks on XC /cross bikes it's not the best solution.

    In other case, Pike is a great fork, in case you need a taller one for a correct/steeper angle get the 27.5 one, it only adds 10mm. Or if you really want to bomb hard get a 170 Lyrik Rc2c or RcDh, my brother has one in 180 mm and works almost similar with the Pike, maybe it lacks just a little small bump compliance.

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    I have sold the Fuel. I need the fork for this. Giant Reign SX with many upgrades.

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    I plan to upgrade my 2012 Trek Slash 9's Talas 36 160 with this new Float 36's.
    But can't decide travel , 160 or 180?
    As a2c is 9mm lower, 180 will only increase fronted 11mm, which can be tolerated.
    But my issue is, if front is 180 than rear travel will stay 160mm (maybe max 167-168mm if I change shock too.) will it disturb Slash's lovely balance?

    Which one would you pick for 160mm travel bike?160mm or 180mm ?

    Reducing 180 to 170 , I also don't like the idea as fox says, all initial setups like progressive settings etc is either made for 160 or 180.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaRaBeeN View Post
    I plan to upgrade my 2012 Trek Slash 9's Talas 36 160 with this new Float 36's.
    But can't decide travel , 160 or 180?
    As a2c is 9mm lower, 180 will only increase fronted 11mm, which can be tolerated.
    But my issue is, if front is 180 than rear travel will stay 160mm (maybe max 167-168mm if I change shock too.) will it disturb Slash's lovely balance?

    Which one would you pick for 160mm travel bike?160mm or 180mm ?

    Reducing 180 to 170 , I also don't like the idea as fox says, all initial setups like progressive settings etc is either made for 160 or 180.
    If it helps I have also been thinking about this. I've got a 2nd gen nomad and was thinking about the 180 vs 160, and decided when available I would buy the 160 mm version to keep things balanced, as you said, and also don't feel I need that aggressive of a fork. More people I have read reviewing a 180 mm on a 160 mm bike don't like it vs. like it.

    The bit about it being tuned for that length from the factory also made my mind up that at 160 I want best performance rather than shortening a 180 and losing some of the factory performance.

    But it also depends on your riding, if you pedal a lot or have a dedicated longer travel DH bike I would think 160 mm, if you mainly like to do DH with your bike and don't mind a slightly harder climb get the 180 mm.

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    I was also thinking the same. My Domain has 555mm a2c and 170mm travel and the new Fox 36 with 180mm travel has 555 a2c so if I didn't want to change the geometry and keel the same a2c I would have to unbalance the bike.

    Amyway I finally decided to buy the Lyrik RC2DH that has the same a2c and travel with my Domain and is almost half the price of the Fox 36.

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    Hoping the new air spring will be a drop replacement for the older 160 forks, i have a 2012 and no desire to buy another new fork at this point. Though I wouldn't mind having the newer air spring design if it is as good as initial reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris Galanis View Post
    I was also thinking the same. My Domain has 555mm a2c and 170mm travel and the new Fox 36 with 180mm travel has 555 a2c so if I didn't want to change the geometry and keel the same a2c I would have to unbalance the bike.

    Amyway I finally decided to buy the Lyrik RC2DH that has the same a2c and travel with my Domain and is almost half the price of the Fox 36.
    55CR at 170 could also have been an option. Run mine at 150 and i prefer to ride it over my 2013 F160 rc2, It's a very good fork for the price.

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    Has anyone got some miles on one of these yet? I'm picking mine up at the end of the week, I hope its been worth the wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Has anyone got some miles on one of these yet? I'm picking mine up at the end of the week, I hope its been worth the wait.

    Me. 20-25 miles so far, 2 rides in 3 days since I installed it. Feels great and still need to tune it a bit.

    And yes, worth the wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkrupp View Post
    Me. 20-25 miles so far, 2 rides in 3 days since I installed it. Feels great and still need to tune it a bit.

    And yes, worth the wait.
    What was your previous fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris Galanis View Post
    What was your previous fork?
    2009/10 Rockshox Lyrik Solo Air. I had it serviced not too long ago, and it didn't feel any better than before. I always noticed that I had to ride with way too much pressure in order for it not to dive under braking, which made it very harsh.

    The 36 feels very supportive in the same situations and it has more features I can use to tune it how I want. I haven't dialed in the correct pressure yet, and will probably add a volume spacer then run a little more sag and see how it feels.

    The way the 36 fork rides reminded me right away of my Float 40, which was great and just how I wanted it to feel.

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    Just got my 36, cannot wait to get it on my Nomad.

    Looks very good, it will be interesting to crack it open and see if Fox have started building forks better and not just assembled with pot luck as to if it has lube in the lowers or not!

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    2015 Fox 36

    Will you put the 36 on your Solo or Nomad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randan View Post
    Will you put the 36 on your Solo or Nomad?
    36 Is for the Nomad, Pike is now going on the Solo.

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    Correct, no shock pump.

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    This is my first Fox fork, so just verifying. These do not come with a pump like RS forks do, correct?
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    Cool, thanks.
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    Stoked to try a 180mm -> 150mm 2015 Talas on my Nomad2.

    20mm more travel for the bike park, but only 11mm more axle to crown over my Lyrik. Probably a decent amount of weightloss as well. Waiting to see what people think of the new damper...

    Tempted to go with a closeout 2014 Talas, but the weight loss and lower axle to crown really has me leaning towards the 2015. The convertible axle system would be a bonus too (can share wheelsets with my trailbike's Pike - wish they had made a 20mm though).

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    Once you do please compare it vs the Lyrik.

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    So if Pike made a 20mm, how many riders would not even look at the Fox?
    Is the 2015 36 as easy to service as the Pike?
    We need more 36 reviews....or is it want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riding4fun View Post
    So if Pike made a 20mm, how many riders would not even look at the Fox?
    Is the 2015 36 as easy to service as the Pike?
    We need more 36 reviews....or is it want?
    I've been in the market for a new fork for a while. If the Pike had come in 20mm, I would've bought it by now without hesitation. I'm not saying the 15mm axle alone prevents me from buying a particular fork, but it is definitely one of the biggest factors for me. The service interval of Fox products doesn't appeal to me, however the 36mm stanchions and 20mm axle design have made me delay buying any of the forks currently on the market. I would like to see real world feedback on the DVO Diamond before I make a decision also. So far, the 2015 Fox Float looks the best on paper, and hopefully it rides well because I'm strongly considering it still. Oh yeah, the MRP Stage looks good too and I hope to see more real world feedback on that too.

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    My Nomad with the new 36

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    Looks sweet, how does it feel. Did you dial it in yet?

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    2015 Fox 36

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    My Nomad with the new 36

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    nice blue little touch

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    Big question, have a MY 11-14 vanilla that I want to use (limit travel).. did the stanchion spacing change, would the new lowers bolt on? ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkrupp View Post
    My Nomad with the new 36

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    Where did you pick the fork up from.

    thx

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    Thanks for the comments.

    Picked it up from competitivecyclist.com, they had preordered some and I made sure I got it first thing. I got the blue retro decal kit from them at the same time and it is way better of a look than the stock orange decals.

    I haven't dialed it in, I know I need to, but it feels really, really good without much adjusting. All I have done is air pressure setup before each ride, and only a little bit of knob turning 2-5 clicks back and forth to see what difference it makes. Couldn't really tell much because each ride has been different terrain. But still feels great and I am starting to notice a slight decrease in front end weight from my lyrik.


    I don't think that the new lower can just bolt on to the old uppers, since they changed a lot on this fork.

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    I just whipped the lowers off mine to check pool volumes as Fox is notoriously bad in this area. My forks seemingly had the correct oil volumes in them, foam rings soaked in 20wt gold as well. The wiper seals were bone dry though so I've given them a lick of shock honey and the fork feels even plusher. Cannot believe on a $1k fork you need to do this though but I guess thats mass manufacturing for you.

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    2015 Fox 36

    Got mine today! Waiting on a crown race so I install it on my 575. Already swapped the decals for white/grey retro ones.

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