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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    Got mine today! Waiting on a crown race so I install it on my 575. Already swapped the decals for white/grey retro ones.
    Nice, well post some pics of the bike and fork up close.

    Did you take the original decals off? Or just overlay the new white/grey ones on top?

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    2015 Fox 36

    I'll post some pics when I have it put together. I took the original decals off. I guess I should have tried to overlay them but oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    I'll post some pics when I have it put together. I took the original decals off. I guess I should have tried to overlay them but oh well.
    Three reasons why I overlayed and didn't take off the originals. First, which is minor, is I got to save the inner "36" orange and white decal segment. Second, I was lazy and didn't want to clean off any potential adhesive. Third, I wanted them EXACTLY how Fox had them, which combined with the laziness makes it difficult to do without any guide or placeholder.

    But we (I assume the viewers of this thread) are looking forward to the picks and ride report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    l. The wiper seals were bone dry though so I've given them a lick of shock honey and the fork feels even plusher. Cannot believe on a $1k fork you need to do this though but I guess thats mass manufacturing for you.
    That's because they don't need or use grease in the wiper cavity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvs_nz View Post
    That's because they don't need or use grease in the wiper cavity.
    My new 34 had a healthy wiping of grease in it I'd go against that. I guess it depends who builds it, certainly lower leg lube seems very dependant on that.

    Also I'd draw your attention to the fox guidelines of whatever bath oil is used in the lowers be smeared in the cavity of the SKF seal.

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    2015 Fox 36

    No ride report yet - the new 36 doesn't use the front caliper adapter for 180mm rotors like on the old fork so I need to get some shorter bolts.

    Here are a couple pics though. I still wish they had a white version, but I swapped to decals to white ones to compensate. The orange "rainbow" decals just didn't jive.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    No ride report yet - the new 36 doesn't use the front caliper adapter for 180mm rotors like on the old fork so I need to get some shorter bolts.

    Here are a couple pics though. I still wish they had a white version, but I swapped to decals to white ones to compensate. The orange "rainbow" decals just didn't jive.



    Sick... mine arrives tomorrow .. can't wait .. New Bronson and Fox 36

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    2015 Fox 36

    Quick ride report from a burn down my street at lunch... PLUSH!! Small bump compliance I can already feel will be phenomenal! Yet good mid stroke support. This is just set to the same settings as my 2013 36 was so haven't played with it yet. This fork is going to be badass!!!






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    Your bike is one sweet ride! How you feel about the frt axle remove process?

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    2015 Fox 36

    Quote Originally Posted by riding4fun View Post
    Your bike is one sweet ride! How you feel about the frt axle remove process?
    Definitely not as quick & convenient as the old dual QR flip levers.

    I'm sure Fox did it for weight but it's a step backwards IMO. But I'll live with it. No different than a Fox 40 or dirt bike forks. Just not convenient if you typically take the front wheel off to transport.

    Dropped the weight of my bike by 0.6 lbs, so that's a bonus.

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    They went back to the pinch bolts of 2005... too funny. Looks like a sweet fork though. So how does it differ in feel to your 2013 36 ?. More active, Less stiction ?, no problem getting full travel ?.

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    Haven't ridden it on trails yet to answer the full travel, but I got full travel on my 2013 so not worried about this one. 2013 was the 1st year for Fox going with a more linear air spring.

    Definitely better small bump compliance on the 2015 - less stiction - very easy to get the fork to move over small bumps. Plus the weight drop of the fork (0.6 lbs) isn't a bad thing.

    Besides less weight, I've heard that another reason for going back to pinch bolts was that they now have a floating axle, so combination of that and pinch bolts has less propensity to deflect the lowers when tightened, like it can with the old axle and QR levers, helping in reducing stiction. Also heard the QR's lead to cracked lowers when the small adjuster bolt was overtightened. You'd think pinch bolts would be worse for customers overtightening, but it's what I read somewhere (one of the articles when the new 36 came out).

    Apparently some upgrades to the Fit damper on the 2015, but honestly I think one of the bigger benefits besides the weight loss is the air spring - having an air negative spring, that self adjusts based on air pressure, vs the old coil negative spring. Seems to have a good effect for the small bump stuff.

    My 2013 seemed to have issues returning to full travel. I'd have to often physically pull down the stanchions to get it back to full travel (a few mm's, but still). The 2015 is so buttery smooth.

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    I'm looking at getting a set of 160 mm Fox 36 forks for my Bronson. I currently have the stock 150 mm Fox 34 forks which I'm not really happy with.

    I'm finding conflicting information regarding axle to crown height. Is it true that the 160 mm 36 fork has the same axle to crown has a 150 mm 34 fork?

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    2015 Fox 36

    2015 36 160 has 536 a-to-c (old ones were 545)... These as #'s from Fox... Go to Fox help section on their site and navigate to the bike section

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    I went from stock 34 to 2015 36 160mm talas on my Bronson. I don't remember the exact figures but I think it was only 5mm taller. I measured with a ruler and it's barely noticeable. If you have a bronson and upgrade to 36 be prepared to want a CCDB shock. There is a reason Santa Cruz speced the 2015 with either a pike or 36 and ccdb option.

    The 36 is night and day better than the 34. Smooth as silk no more high speed chatter. With one hand on stem I can compress the fork. With the 34 I could barely move the fork without using all my weight, it was hard to set sag correctly because it was so sticky.

    I only have one ride and fork isn't completely dialed but it just handles everything smoothly. I have it setup according to fox settings. You can carry more speed without getting bounced around. The wheel just stays planted to the ground way more. So far the 36 gets two thumbs up.

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    If anyone is looking to fit a 203mm front rotor on the fork then you need to get a Hope 160-183mm post to post front mount adapter. It is mount H you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    If anyone is looking to fit a 203mm front rotor on the fork then you need to get a Hope 160-183mm post to post front mount adapter. It is mount H you need.
    FYI if you want to fit a 183 rotor you will have to get inventive. I spoke with Hope and they said they didn't have a solution for that yet.
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    Scootdogss - Where did you source the fork and what did it cost? Inquiring minds want to know.

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    Price point 4th of july sale $250 off.

    Universal cycles always has 15% off over $300 free shipping no sales tax.

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    A-C height is the distance from the axle to where the top of the crown where it sits against the bike frame???

    So you guys are saying that even though the fork has 160mm travel (in reference to a 150mm Bronson) the A-C is 536mm, that is basically the same as my my Bronson's 34mm 2014 fork? I have concerns about negatively effecting the geometry of my bike and was just assuming that I'd need to lower the new 2015 Fox 36mm to a 150mm travel just to keep everything in spec?

    Also, are you guys all running 30% sag front and rear?

    Please advise me cause frankly it's like reading a different language around here for a newbie such as myself.

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    The axle to crown of the 26" 2015 fox 160mm is 536. The axle to crown of the 27.5 is 549. Whatever you run your fox 34 at is the same travel you'd want to run the fox 36 at.

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    That's just to cryptic for a newbie like me to understand.

    You are saying that my current stock Bronson fork, the 2014 Fox 34mm set at 150mm of travel has a A - C of 539mm? Because at 160mm it has an A -C of 549mm?

    So the 2015 Fox 36mm for a 27.5" bike is a 536mm set at a 160mm? Meaning my old fork at 150mm is only 3mm shorter than the 2015 Fox 36 set at 160mm?

    If I am reading this all correctly running the NEW Fox 36mm at 160mm will have almost identical geometry (height of front end, etc..) to my old fork at 150mm.

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    Suns. You are correct 14 34 150mm same as 15 36 160 mm. Technically the 36 is 5 mm taller. But riding you will not notice a difference.

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    I put some miles on the fork over the weekend... I gotta say, the 2015 is BUTTER!!!! Small bump compliance is insane. Normal pressures, soaks up little bumps and chatter, yet great mid stroke support. Amazing fork! Can't wait to take it on some gravity runs.

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    First ride on the 2015 on Saturday on my pretty rough "DH" trails. Absolutely awesome. Hit the first jump and got a bit spooked as it felt super soft...decided to hit the second jump but took control and pushed the fork into the lip and it felt sweet and from there on I guess i had adapted to the 'feel'. Hit all the steeps and drops and felt totally butter.

    I am riding it on a Knolly Chilcotin with a Avy Woody on the back and only now do I realize how overwhelmed my old 2008 36 actually felt. The new 2015 matches the rear end so much better.

    I was more impressed by this first ride than i was when i replaced my RS Rev on the Endorphin with the Pike. That was more a case of superior stiffness that i really appreciated. The Fox is more subtle and smooth through the mid stroke (compared to the pike) and feels like it ramps up nicely towards the end.

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    2015 Fox 36

    Rode mine at the nearby DH park and just WOW!!. As Muttonchops describes, it's weird at first because the new 36 has such smooth small bump compliance and just feels buttery smooth. But the mid stroke support is awesome and ramps up so nice and predictably. SOAKS up the small chatter, yet doesn't dive deep into the stroke when you hit large square edge rocks. You learn quickly that it just increases the confidence level due to its capability in the chunk, without beating you up in the chattery stuff.

    The next day I then dialed back the LSC and HSC, dropped 2-3 psi and rode some single track trails and it was just as much at home on single track as it was on a gravity trail.

    Fox has NAILED it with the new 36!! I loved my 2013 36 but the 2015 takes it to a whole new level. Plush, controlled, stiff (chassis), and relatively light (vs the old one).

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    Hey, any chance you guys who are already running this fork can post up your:

    - Fork length (26, 27.5, 29) and travel:
    - Your weight and the psi you're running:
    - You HSC/LSC and LSR:
    - And, if you've added or pulled any of those tokens.

    BTW, was there a break-in run or 1/2 dzn before the fork bedded in and smoothed out?

    Thanks.

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    I need a 150mm replacement for a 13 Fox Evo 32, the Pike seems to have a larger A2C than I would want and the 15 Fox 36 is roughly 6mm greater. So with that can you change the actual height of the 36 to 150mm in the Talas version? Is this a big job?

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    anyone running a 26" Talas yet?

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    What are you guys running for settings, psi, and your weight? Mine feels good, handles stuff well, but is not great yet. I have owned a number of Fox Floats and can normally dial them relatively quick, but this one is taken more time.

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    Fox 36 talas 29

    Amazing fork. Direct swap from Pike 160 single air and better in every way(ride) out of the box. On Carbine, 67 degree HA. 160 fork measured same as Pike AC. TALAS great on long climbs and still supple for the techy sections. Rider 200# RTR.
    Air - 131#
    HSC - 5 clicks
    LSC - 7 clicks
    Reb - 9 clicks
    All settings from full open. 4 rides, 50 miles and very close to dialed.
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    The retro decals go really nicely with your bike!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    Amazing fork. Direct swap from Pike 160 single air and better in every way(ride) out of the box. On Carbine, 67 degree HA. 160 fork measured same as Pike AC. TALAS great on long climbs and still supple for the techy sections. Rider 200# RTR.
    Air - 131#
    HSC - 5 clicks
    LSC - 7 clicks
    Reb - 9 clicks
    All settings from full open. 4 rides, 50 miles and very close to dialed.

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    Re: 2015 Fox 36

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    Rider 200# RTR.
    Air - 131#
    Holy cow that is high! And you're getting most of your travel with good small bump compliance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmckechnie View Post
    The retro decals go really nicely with your bike!
    Main reason to upgrade!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Holy cow that is high! And you're getting most of your travel with good small bump compliance?
    TALAS airspring runs about twice the pressure as the float - small bump is amazing, even when set for short travel. My buddy Loving the new Float 36 on his Nomad is running about 58# for the same weight - sag.
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    I've been running about 80 psi in my Float 160 for DH duty and jumping and 75 for trail riding. Between 10-14 LSC depending on conditions. I like having the front ride a bit higher, especially for downhill riding. I may try 70 for trail riding, but I don't like a lot of sag on the fork. About 200# ride weigth right now.

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    Main reason to upgrade!
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    Is it possible to lock out the fork via clicks and count back to orginal setting when done?
    I would look for this when traveling via Streets.
    And what clicker is it LSC or HSC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riding4fun View Post
    Is it possible to lock out the fork via clicks and count back to orginal setting when done?
    I would look for this when traveling via Streets.
    And what clicker is it LSC or HSC?
    That's what I do. Makes the fork more versatile which is good since the 36 is over kill for some of the local trails and approaches. The knobs are well labeled and the clicks are easy to feel and count, you'd change LSC for more efficient pedaling. I like the TALAS for some of the same reasons.
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    Anyone know which shimano caliper adapter will be needed for a Saint caliper for a 203mm rotor?

    This one doesn't work...kicks the caliper out too far:
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    This one also doesn't work for Saint caliper. insufficient spacing:
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    I was thinking of this one, if you sit the caliper on the rotor and rotate it clockwise, you can see this might work:
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    Pau11y you need none of the above, shimano does not make the adapter you need.

    What you need is a Hope 160mm to 183mm post mount adapter (Mount H from Hope):
    Brake Mounts | Hope Tech | Made in Barnoldswick, England

    Universal cycles have them in stock I think:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Pau11y you need none of the above, shimano does not make the adapter you need.

    What you need is a Hope 160mm to 183mm post mount adapter (Mount H from Hope):
    Brake Mounts | Hope Tech | Made in Barnoldswick, England

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    AH! Thanks Rick!

    That's the same layout as the Magura QM6 mount...opt-ing for that as there's a $9 difference between the Hope and Magura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    AH! Thanks Rick!

    That's the same layout as the Magura QM6 mount...opt-ing for that as there's a $9 difference between the Hope and Magura.

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    That won't work I don't believe as its for a 180mm rotor. The hope one works as Hope make a 183mm rotor so need a 160-183mm post mount adapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    That won't work I don't believe as its for a 180mm rotor. The hope one works as Hope make a 183mm rotor so need a 160-183mm post mount adapter.
    Ah, gotcha...that last 3mm (or 1.5 on the radius). Dammit Sh!tmano!
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    Eh? Just put a washer under the caliper.

    Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    My buddy Loving the new Float 36 on his Nomad is running about 58# for the same weight - sag.
    It is true, I am loving the Float 36 160 on my Nomad. I had a Dual Air Pike. It is a nice fork, but the negative air spring kept sucking the fork down (malfunctioning) , so it had to go. I am not looking back. The 36 is better. I have been putting it through the paces on rough and smooth single track. Nothing seems to phase it. Setup is not critical. It is just preference. I started the setup with everything set pretty slow - everything at 10 clicks from slow. It was super supportive and plush and obviously stayed high in the travel. I have been incrementally dialing back the clickers. Now I am at (from full fast- sorry for the confusion, but the numbers are smaller this way) HSC 7, LSC 5, R 6. I may slow the rebound down a bit. But again, at any setting I have tried, this thing just rocks. At these faster settings traction is insane, bumps disappear and a line is so easy to hold. It makes some of my previously tricky trails into a joke. Point and shoot! It still resists diving under cornering loads and does remarkably well with brake dive. It stays higher in the stroke under braking with more LSC (duh), but it tracks better under braking with less LSC. Again, it is trade offs and personal preference. The sweet spot is a mile wide.

    I am super happy with the 160 length. If you need more length for the geo on your bike then go for it. If you needed 180mm on a previous fork to get supple feel and bottom out prevention, think about going a little shorter. It is a lot of fork for the length, the travel goes on forever. My $.02.

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    It's all sounding pretty good so far.

    So what comes in the box with the new forks? Any travel reducers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TipofAfrica View Post
    It's all sounding pretty good so far.

    So what comes in the box with the new forks? Any travel reducers?
    Here is what you get in the box:

    20mm axle,
    15mm axle and adapters,
    Volume spacers,
    Starnut.

    No travel adjust spacers.

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    Thanks.

    Does anyone on here happen to have the dimensions of a Neg Plate Spacer (PN: 234-04-627) so I can machine one myself?

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    Video - Changing Travel

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