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    2014 Rockshox Pike RC vs RCT3

    Looking at ordering the Pike RCT3 29er when I found a decent deal for a RC model off of an Enduro. Have read some conflicting comparisons between these models so am hoping for some clarification.

    Aside from the 3 stage compression adjust is there any major difference between the 2 models? Any reason not to choose the RC? Do they both feature the same damper?

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    RC is cheaper and has open-to-lockout low speed compression adjusting (i.e. like in older Motion Control forks) instead of 3 positions control (with low speed only effective on open mode as I understood).

    RCT3 is 10-15% more expensive, so if you aren't totally in "I need 3 positions and can't adjust it manually by myself by counting clicks", then get the RC.


    See it for yourself:
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    Pike Service Manual (Page 4 and 5):
    http://cdn.sram.com/cdn/farfuture/si...e_manual_0.pdf

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    I have an Rc. I only lacks the 3 stage compression adjust you mentioned. Otherwise it is the same fork. I couldn't be happier with mine.

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    2014 Rockshox Pike RC vs RCT3

    Wish I had the option of buying an RC instead of the RCT3. The climb setting is semi-useful when I know a long climb is coming up, otherwise I'm running it in the open setting. In addition, turning the open setting adjuster to fully closed pretty much locks up the fork anyway (not fully obviously, but you get my point). So, the RCT3 is just a semi-quicker way to get to a climbing setting. Not worth it in my opinion. In addition, PUSH has hinted that they will be producing their RC2 damper adjuster for the Pike much like they did for the Fox 34. Instead of forking out $1000 for an RCT3, I'd rather buy a the RC for cheaper then get the PUSH mod.

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    Great news, thanks all. Found a deal on the RC for significantly less so glad I am not giving up anything that I would use often.

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    I was also considering the RC so this is good info, thanks. Any suggestions where I can buy an RC? Everything online seems to be the RCT3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaletown View Post
    I was also considering the RC so this is good info, thanks. Any suggestions where I can buy an RC? Everything online seems to be the RCT3.
    RC model is OEM, only the RCT3 is available aftermarket usually.
    I don't crash, I just have slightly uncontrolled dismounts!

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    Does that mean the RC is only available directly from Rockshox? Or from the LBS? Or does it mean that Rockshox only supplies it directly to bike manufacturers and not retail?

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    Directly to bike manufacturers only.
    I don't crash, I just have slightly uncontrolled dismounts!

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    So is the RCT3 damper base valve fit-able into the RC? For a 29er 160mm fork.

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    The three position capability of the RCT3 is basically useless on a fork like the Pike, so I'd grab the RC and go.

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    Same actual base valve and midvalve stacks though? Just missing that one other climbing mode on the top?

    Has anyone done much in the way of valving work on these things?

    I've read a couple places that these forks get a lot better after a thorough rebuild and greasing. Is it worth doing that right off the bat?

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    I've owned both. I only run the fork wide open and absolutely can tell no difference in damping quality between the two.

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    "Base valve" usually refers to a compression valve at the bottom of the fork, a classic open-bath layout. A bladder-cart fork like the Pike doesn't really have a "base valve", as the compression valve is at the top of the cartridge. The rebound valve is at the "base", but since it's a totally different kind of damper it's not really the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    "Base valve" usually refers to a compression valve at the bottom of the fork, a classic open-bath layout. A bladder-cart fork like the Pike doesn't really have a "base valve", as the compression valve is at the top of the cartridge. The rebound valve is at the "base", but since it's a totally different kind of damper it's not really the same thing.
    Sorry, but that is incorrect. Base valve refers to the passive valve in the system. Twin chamber moto forks are arranged the same way with the BV at the top with a spring compensator instead of a bladder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GH28 View Post
    Sorry, but that is incorrect. Base valve refers to the passive valve in the system. Twin chamber moto forks are arranged the same way with the BV at the top with a spring compensator instead of a bladder.
    Never heard it that way. Do you mean twin chamber or twin piston, as referring to two compression pistons, one that usually is spring loaded as you mention?
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    Well, the MX twin chamber forks are basically the same thing as a FIT or Charger damper, rebound rod down, sealed, with a compensator, and separate lubricating fluid in the outer leg of the fork.

    They all technically have two compression pistons that are metering pressure away from the main chamber between them. The MV usually passes 75-85% of the fluid, and the rest gets displaced through the BV.

    Here's a picture: http://www.shimrestackor.com/Figs_Ti...amber-fork.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Never heard it that way. Do you mean twin chamber or twin piston, as referring to two compression pistons, one that usually is spring loaded as you mention?
    I'm sure you've already guessed it by now but motorcycle forks that use closed damper systems are generally referred to as twin chamber. But it's also not true that all twin chamber forks use a spring. KTM obviously uses a bladder as I'm sure others do as well.

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    Yup. Ohlins uses a pressurized IFP. There are a variety of ways to do it.

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    Anyone ever put their hands on a RC with Dual Travel? From the RS site it exists.

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    does anyone know if a RCT3 assy can be swapped for a RC assy?
    I see the internals listed for sale on Ebay.

    I would really like a RC Dual 26"
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaletown View Post
    Does that mean the RC is only available directly from Rockshox? Or from the LBS? Or does it mean that Rockshox only supplies it directly to bike manufacturers and not retail?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwiplague View Post
    Directly to bike manufacturers only.

    Well the Rockshox RC can be bought for £300/400Euros shipping worldwide, as many have already done so on UK bike forums. Arrived within 3 days too

    ROCKSHOX 2014 Fork PIKE RC 26'' 150mm Axle 15mm Solo Air Tapered Black - ALLTRICKS


    There are various further 5% off codes floating about for Alltricks.

    I don't bother locking mine out as it climbs so well, but with the LSC fully closed, the fork has such minimal movement you might as well call it a lockout.



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    So I just tried to buy from Alltricks with a USA zipcode and the price changed to 353 euro delivered? (with HT after the euro symbol) so how much TAX would a US buyer pay on 353 Euro???

    i can't ride for sh*t but i'm good at extreme pushing

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    They wouldn't pay any tax. There isn't any important tax and the site itself wouldn't collect any tax.

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    Absolute snatch then for any US customers!
    i can't ride for sh*t but i'm good at extreme pushing

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    Alltricks is a very famous e-commerce site in France. They are really ambitious.

    They have got a good reputation. I have ordered lots from them personnaly, since the UK pound has made chainreaction useless, and since they are competitive with the top german sites.
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    I cant believe I did this. I thought I bought a used 650b pike rct3 but when I arrived it was pike rc. I checked his ad and yup I got too excited and missed the detail. im super bummed and thought about getting rid of it but then I thought I will seek opinions of jedis here first. I come from pike rct3 160 26 on spitfire and basically I was getting exact the same thing but on 650b. I actually used all 3 settings often enough that I wouldn't have changed a thing. what do you guys think? are rc's riding characteristics exact same as rct3's?

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    Put that baby on your rig and give it a shot, nothing to lose and some even want the RC vs. the RCT.

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    the other difference is independant LSC adjustment on the RCT3 that RC do not have. The LSC works in any of the three setting as well.

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    LSC only works in open position

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    I rode 26" pike rct3 for a year so im pretty familiar with it... I really liked the fork and had no complains what so ever and yes the LSC on rct is only for open setting. my question is does rc really ride exactly the same as rct3 except for the 3 pre set settings? I don't want to ride the rc I got if I know it is not as good as rct3 so that I don't drop its re-sale value...

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    or can you fit rct3 damper from my 26" pike into 650b rc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by powanddirt View Post
    I rode 26" pike rct3 for a year so im pretty familiar with it... I really liked the fork and had no complains what so ever and yes the LSC on rct is only for open setting. my question is does rc really ride exactly the same as rct3 except for the 3 pre set settings? I don't want to ride the rc I got if I know it is not as good as rct3 so that I don't drop its re-sale value...
    Looking at the RS service videos and internal diagrams, yes. (I have the RC)
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    The RC rocks!!!
    I have 3 of them and choosed them over the RCT3 because i don't use the "CTD" feature.

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    thats great to know. thanks guys! i might just put it on and ride...my 26" pike was dual position and did not come with tokens. i would bottom out on larger hits 5ft and up but not harsh at all. im 184lbs geared up and try to ride aggressive. should i install one token?

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    I don't own a RCT, but have read lots of posts and have read that the RC is better than the RCT because of it's range of adjustment, but the extreme firm compression is not as tight as the lock out on the RCT. Others can chime in that have had both. If it's used, put some clear tape on it for protection and if it does not live up to the hype, you should be able to resell for same price. I'm pretty sure RC's are in more demand than RCT's, on the used market.

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    I see so I just gotta figure out the token situation. do you have any in your rc? if im just getting a simpler version of my old rct 3 then I can live with that

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    Sorry to miss-led, I don't have a RC either.
    Went with the Fox 36, but before I bought the Fox I spent hours/days on the the Pike threads. I would suggest riding it before trying any spacers. I bought all the spacers and such to reduce my FOX travel, but gave it a try 1st and wish I didn't mess with buying the other pieces now.

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    all good dude. how are the new 36? im leaning toward sticking with rc. indeed some people seem to like the rc over rct3 so they cant all be wrong. I guess im just not used to any kind of downgrading with bike parts haha

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    The 36 is working out quite well. But I'm easily impressed coming from a Fox 32 Evo. I really wanted a Pike, but the A2C was greater than the 36 and the price difference was only $65 through BikerBob. I'm in a 26" so when I make it to a 27.5 bike I will be back looking at Pikes.

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    glad to hear 36 is working out for you. i had 2012 180 talas that i just couldn't get along with. it was impossible not to blow through all of its travel without upping the air to the point i don't get the sag. my 26" pike rct3 was an eye opener in that it had so much support mid stroke compare to fox. with 180 talas i was often surprised how much travel i used. on pike rct3 it was opposite, i often was surprised how little travel i used and yet remained chill on my bike. anybody out there ridden both rc and rct3, and prefer one over the other?

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    I installed pike rc 650b replacing 26" pike rct3 and had a few rides in. still waiting for raceface turbine wheels so running 26wheels. im really glad I went with rc listening to people here. in my opinion my new rc was more controlled than rct3 for some reason. dropped few psi from recommendation to get it right and it is golden. im 185lbs geared and have about 72psi. I try to ride as aggressive as I can all the time. fork is super supple over small to medium impacts and tracks awesome leaning over small roots. I can not wait for the wheels to complete the 650b makeover!!
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    Hi Guys sorry for little of question:-)

    Since two days trying to decipher my Pika RC, but I have small doubt about the settings.

    lets start from top where top it is divided into two areas by black knob - CHARGER (or is it just the name of the new the damper) and compresion with the arrow.

    If I will rotate in the direction of the arrow which shows that I reach to full lock? (Ie, compression to the max?), And clicking in the opposite direction I will go up to the full open ( and this is area where low compresion is working?)

    Now bottom (rebound) is divided from slow to fast, whether it should be as if I have 100 kg(arround 220lbs) and I have high pressure in the fork should be closer to slow setting ? and lighter riders need faster rebound setup and lower pressure ?

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