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    Hello mtbr fellows,my 2011 1 1/8 QR9 100mm terralogic starts cracking noise a month ago.I couldnt think that the fork might be problem so I disassemble its part of my hardtail and built it again.Some parts twice...In the end today I take off the front wheel and start pushing in and out the stallions with my hands.The sound was worse than it sounds when I ride oooohhhh.After I found this topic.I just return at home from the LBS that I bought it and they said that they gonna change the stallions but they have to see if there is any spare part available....Pitty...terralogic rocks!!!

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    I threw grease allmost in each part.Also I replaced the QR with another pair to check...It is definitely the stalions.I hope to be lucky and I wont have problem again after the replacement.

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    anyone ever find a solution to this?

    I'm on my 3rd fork and it has started to creak as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw View Post
    anyone ever find a solution to this?

    I'm on my 3rd fork and it has started to creak as well.
    Keep sending it in and get the CSU replaced.

    So far Fox has been great with customer service for me. I purchased a 180 Float in 2011. They replaced it with a 2012. Sent the 2012 in with the invoice from when it was sent to me. (2nd year from original purchase of 2011) They replaced the CSU on the 2012.

    It seems like it takes about 10 to 20 good rides before the CSU starts creaking for me. Just keep the box to send it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw View Post
    anyone ever find a solution to this?
    Yep. Get the CSU replaced and the fork serviced and sell it. Take the money and buy a RockShox. Or Manitou. Or something else that is not so overrated and overpriced.
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    Poor 36 van

    Been having a new problem, after having the original 2011 lowers fitted to four different uppers (warrantied due to creaking crown and/or stanchion), now there's play in the lowers and the bushings knock....This is a real bummer, I was getting some great performance out of it this year..Anyone dealt with this problem yet?

    Has anyone had the complete fork replaced under warranty (or everything minus the damper)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerhillJ View Post
    Been having a new problem, after having the original 2011 lowers fitted to four different uppers (warrantied due to creaking crown and/or stanchion), now there's play in the lowers and the bushings knock....This is a real bummer, I was getting some great performance out of it this year..Anyone dealt with this problem yet?

    Has anyone had the complete fork replaced under warranty (or everything minus the damper)?
    I just serviced my 2010 F29 which is on it's 2nd upper (about to go in for it's 3rd then onto Craigslist) and have play in the spring side. The bushings look fine and there is no excessive wear on the stanchions.

    If they send me a complete replacement fork, Kashima and all, it still will not see my bike but will be going down the road. Time for a competitor's fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Yep. Get the CSU replaced and the fork serviced and sell it. Take the money and buy a RockShox. Or Manitou. Or something else that is not so overrated and overpriced.
    Good advice, exactly what I did, after getting the uppers replaced for the 3rd time on my 180 Kashima Vans I sold the fork and replaced with a Marz 55 evo ti and couldn't be happier, better warranty, loads cheaper, no creaks!!! (well, so far) and actually feels like a much better fork too. Marzocchi are definitly back on form with these forks.

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    Chassis is too light, imo they've passed the limit of these materials

    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    I just serviced my 2010 F29 which is on it's 2nd upper (about to go in for it's 3rd then onto Craigslist) and have play in the spring side. The bushings look fine and there is no excessive wear on the stanchions.

    If they send me a complete replacement fork, Kashima and all, it still will not see my bike but will be going down the road. Time for a competitor's fork.
    My problem is that the CSU is nice and solid, silent... finally. I just serviced mine too, there's no wear at all on my stanchion either, bushings look fine too

    It's just all that down time, not being able to ride with these (when I have time to ride)... and now seems like the lowers are beginning to fail, axle gets a tad loose every couple rides and now with this play in the bushings/knocking... fork didn't even last through 2012 and not sure if they'll even cover this.. think you may be right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Yep. Get the CSU replaced and the fork serviced and sell it.
    If it's a recurring problem, then pity the poor bastard who ends up with them!

    I bought 2011 Vanilla RL (140mm travel, 1 1/8 steerer, 32mm stanchions, 9mm QR) off rotorburn a month or so ago, and they started creaking after the 3rd or 4th ride, so I don't think the previous owners knowingly sold me a creaky fork, but it's not a sound you want to hear on essentially new forks (they were in mint condition). Just glad I only paid $380 for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by si618 View Post
    If it's a recurring problem, then pity the poor bastard who ends up with them!
    Doesn't really matter. Even with the full disclosure I would offer up, most are happy to have the Fox sticker on the lower. And the fork works as well as it ever has. Just noisy.
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    Yesterday I received the ''overhalled'' fork.The fact is that I saw a difference in stallion and steerer color in addition with the old one.The LBS store guy told me that this time used a stalion for 100-120mm and nor a 80-100mm like before.
    I ask him to tell me what is going to happen if the problem starts again and he said that they going to replace the hall fork with a new 2013 model...Lets see!!!

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    I was assured it wouldn't affect performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya View Post
    Kashima Stallion!!!!!!!!
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    Hello everyone!may I ask what kind of creak do you guys hear on your fork. My fork, van 36 160 2011 creaks SOMETIMES when I bomb the fork hard, pull the front brake ONCE and after that the creaks is gone. It sometimes creaks too when rolling over humps. Like I said, this does not happen everytime. Only when I do those things. I saw the video of a member here turning the bike upside down and turning the fork left and right while stepping on the handlebar. I tried it too but the fork did not creak.I hope its not my headset.

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    Hi LGavin,if it has to do with that,it might be on the begining. My fork was a 32 and its less stiff than van,but until I found what was the problem I have mentioned the same noise when I press the front brake and also crack when I was stand up and pedaling. Also when I was rolling without pedaling and push right and left the bar rapidly,I could hear the noise. Try something else. Take off your front wheel and grab the stalions with your hands. Then start pulling them in and out. When I did that in my gork screaming really horrible,worst from when I ride....

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Doesn't really matter. Even with the full disclosure I would offer up, most are happy to have the Fox sticker on the lower. And the fork works as well as it ever has. Just noisy.
    Not sure I follow you, since your previous comment was:

    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    ...If they send me a complete replacement fork, Kashima and all, it still will not see my bike but will be going down the road. Time for a competitor's fork.
    Anyway, I took the loctite 290 option and the creak is 95% fixed, only a very minor noise now. Applied crown to stanchion interface (under and above), as well as the crown to steerer interface, jiggled and wiggled, left overnight...amazing difference! I won't be scaring the magpies and koalas so much now Still good after some solid runs.

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    Last year, after I noticed annoying creaking noise (when applying front brake) from my 2010 F32 RLC, I lubed right stanchion/crown junction with WD40. After lubing there wasn't any noise. Few weeks after, I read Null's advice. I confirm everything he had written. Even now, year after, everything is perfect, without any lubing meanwhile, or stanchion movement.

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    2012 Van 36 160 1.5 Taper. Started creaking after about 5 months. Warranted. Now 3 months later it's creaking again and go back for warranty replacement again. Really tired of this hassle...I had at least 3 Van 36's prior to this through the years and aside from a blown bladder in 2006, never an issue. Really disappointed in these Kashimas.

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    On my 4th creaking CSU...I'm going to have to say that there's an issue here. They've either gone too thin on material to save weight or the Kashima is too slippery and isnt sealing tight enough in the Crown.

    Either way it's annoying and dissapointing.

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    Any update guys? Did the loctite 290 trick actually work for anyone?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherouvim View Post
    Any update guys? Did the loctite 290 trick actually work for anyone?

    thanks
    I never tried the loctite trick but I'm on my 7th or 8th upper in almost two years. It's pretty preditable by now, I know about when they'll start creaking, what it sounds like, and when to send them back. 5 or 6 days after shipping it I get it back. Wham bam, quick turn around, good service. It'd be nice if the fork didn't creak, but then again I wouldn't be getting an oil change and new seals every few months either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    I never tried the loctite trick but I'm on my 7th or 8th upper in almost two years. It's pretty preditable by now, I know about when they'll start creaking, what it sounds like, and when to send them back. 5 or 6 days after shipping it I get it back. Wham bam, quick turn around, good service. It'd be nice if the fork didn't creak, but then again I wouldn't be getting an oil change and new seals every few months either!
    That's how I see it.
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    Yup, read my comment above, creak is completely gone in mine now after a few applications of 290 to both crown to steerer and crown to stanchion (above and below). FWIW I also have the newer fox CTD fork (150mm) and no creak in those, so they might have fixed it, although the CTD cartridge did get warrantied.

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    Bought a used F32-100 RL and got the click after the first ride through a forrest Sending it back to FOX is not an option so I will try the DIY solution ... hope it works.

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    Just sent in my 2012 34 160 talas that had creaking verified by the fox tent at the SC bike festival. Sent it in Monday and it's already done today, I'm super impressed with Fox service so far! (well we'll see what I get when it comes back).

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    Got my fork back super quick, and no creak so far. We'll see how it holds up!

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    I have a long-travel 36mm single-crown fork from another manufacturer. I recently sent it in to them to address a creaking issue. I was expecting it to come back with a new CSA, but instead, i found they had done a "locktite rebuild" (their words), instead of replacing it. There is a substantial ring of blueish-green semi-hardend gel around the stanchion tubes where they meet the crown. There is nothing around the steerer-tube to crown interface.

    This "rebuild" seems to have eliminated the creaking when i test the fork in a repair stand. I'll be riding it tomorrow, we'll see how it holds up on the trail

    Anyone else had this done from the factory? I cannot tell if they did anything to clean out what may have gotten into the assembly.

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    2011 fox forks creaking/cracking noise

    Sounds more like a band-aid hack job to me - but if it gets rid of your creak...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    Sounds more like a band-aid hack job to me - but if it gets rid of your creak...
    Yea, I was a bit surprised. But, it now makes me think more about the cause of the noise; is it an inevitable issue caused by contamination & the nature of the press fit system, or a more serious manufacturing/safety issue.

    To date, I've owned a fork from RS, Manitou, and X-Fusion, and they've all developed creaking/cracking noises. The exception to this is my RS Argyle, though it doesn't have a front brake and is just ridden on the street/park.

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    My fork was ~90% better on my most recent ride. My shock's lower bushing is worn out and creaking, so it was hard to isolate any possible noises originating from just the front end of the bike. From looking at my fork and pictures online, I'm fairly sure that this is also a loctite 290 job.

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    Well......I have another creaking CSU.......that's 5 now, over two different Fox Forks. Seems like every 3-4 months it comes back.

    2 options:

    Send it in and get it replaced again?

    Try the Loctite?...already did the oil, helped for one ride.

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    Ok, my fox 32 rl that had a change of CSU for a Kashima one is creaking again. It is going back soon to Fox benelux for a fix.
    I'm almost at the end of the warranty period of 2 years. I'm wandering what i'm gonna do now? Would fox fix the csu creaking after the warranty period because it's a hidden defect?
    Is it a better idea to sell this one when it comes back from warranty and replace it by another brand?
    Which fork manufacturer does non creaking forks? It's a bit tricky because the fork is on a Trek Superfly so it's a 51mm offset...

    Thanks for your input ;-)

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    Although I had got the loctite 290 to try the trick mentioned earlier in this thread I never did it cause the fox dealer of the country I live in replaced the CSU for free. The fork was on its 13th month of life. Initially I thought that the warantee was 12 months but they told me that in Europe it is 24 months. I also got to do a full service (paid) which was due.

    The new CSU is noise free.

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    Suffered creaks same as the video posted here before on my bike with these forks, 1 f29 on my rip9 and 1 vanrc2 on my 5spot. And it turned out that the forks are not the issue. Its the headset. My mechanic wrapped teflon tape on the bearing cups then pressed it and boom! The creak is gone! Feels so good riding hearing nothing but the birds chirping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGavin View Post
    Suffered creaks same as the video posted here before on my bike with these forks, 1 f29 on my rip9 and 1 vanrc2 on my 5spot. And it turned out that the forks are not the issue. Its the headset. My mechanic wrapped teflon tape on the bearing cups then pressed it and boom! The creak is gone! Feels so good riding hearing nothing but the birds chirping.
    Good to hear.....unfortunately that isn't the case for most of us.

    Fox hasn't been replacing all these CSU's because they are feeling charitable.

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    my fork has had a change of csu and was put back in the bike by my lbs, one week turnover not bad, this was the second time now. In October my two years warranty runs out, so i hope it's fixed for good now! Even so, my lbs told me that it would be possible that fox would fix it for free if it start again after the warranty... We'll see...

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    40 days after the new CSU (20 rides) it started creaking again. DAMN! :/

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    My 2013 float 100 29er forks are making noise, does anybody have the same experience with there 2013 forks?

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    Wow! I dropped my fork off at Fox on Weds (two days ago) and it arrived back today UPS. Granted I only live 35min from Fox but hey. I will have it on and tested this eve and only had Wed and Thurs that I didn't ride. I know they are not always able to turn around this fast but still, sometimes god smiles even when I haven't had a beer.
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    Saying "My forks are making noise" is like saying "My car is making a noise". I think you are going to have to be a little more specific.

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    Sorry, The thread is about creaking / cracking noises. My question is: Has anybody had issues of "creaking / cracking" noises with the 2013 fox float 29er frorks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherouvim View Post
    40 days after the new CSU (20 rides) it started creaking again. DAMN! :/
    Mine is now doing it again as well . . . I haven't been back to this thread in a while, but has anyone had any luck with Fox fixing them again? I'm well out of warranty at this point.
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    2011 fox forks creaking/cracking noise

    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Mine is now doing it again as well . . . I haven't been back to this thread in a while, but has anyone had any luck with Fox fixing them again? I'm well out of warranty at this point.
    I believe that 2015's Fox forks will come with ear plugs to silence the fork and previous year warranties will get the same fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    I believe that 2015's Fox forks will come with ear plugs to silence the fork and previous year warranties will get the same fix.
    I think my next fork is gonna be a RS . . . never ridden one and I'm sure it too will have its own problems, but hopefully it'll ride a little nicer.
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    2011 fox forks creaking/cracking noise

    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I think my next fork is gonna be a RS . . . never ridden one and I'm sure it too will have its own problems, but hopefully it'll ride a little nicer.
    I've had a couple of their big bike forks which worked ok, but RS overall feel (inluding avid/truvativ products) always give me a "made in china" impression...ie. cheap!!

    But who knows maybe I'll give them ago again too.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    I've had a couple of their big bike forks which worked ok, but RS overall feel (inluding avid/truvativ products) always give me a "made in china" impression...ie. cheap!!

    But who knows maybe I'll give them ago again too.....
    I know what you mean about the RS/Avid/Truvativ feel . . . my experiences exactly. I've never run a RS fork though so have no idea.

    A buddy just picked up an X-Fusion Vengeance HLR . . . out of the box, it looks great and is SILLY plush. Depending on his experiences, I might be easily swayed to try one of their forks.
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    I'm an idiot!! Just bought a 2014 34 Float, after two previous 36's creaking,......any bets on how long it will be before this one starts to creak?

    BTW it's a really nice feeling fork, very happy with it so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck_tacoma View Post
    I'm an idiot!! Just bought a 2014 34 Float, after two previous 36's creaking,......any bets on how long it will be before this one starts to creak?

    BTW it's a really nice feeling fork, very happy with it so far.
    Well, I went thru two sessions w/ Fox warranty on my 34 Float 140 29er. Because of how long those legs are, the creaking came pretty much right away. This is why I keep a spare Marz 44 Micro Ti 29er on hand for this bike. Once the creaking is resolved, the Marz will go on one of those cheap Chinese carbon hardtails
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    giving up on Fox forks my 2013 Float 32 140 are creaking excessive not only braking but even when riding -

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    I have to hand it to Fox for how they handled my creaking CSU on my '13 36 Float 160. I'm out in MD (5 days via ups to fox), so they did next day shipping back and forth, and covered labor at my LBS to uninstall/reinstall the fork. I got a brand new CSU unit with shiny new kashima. The best part was a 3-year warranty extension for any future CSU problems. I spoke to the service manager, and he said they have newly designed CSU's rolling out of production to help address the issue. I guess time will tell if it actually works

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    Good to hear Kayman121, I had a pretty severe creaking noise from my 2013 float 100's
    sent them off to Fox and I have to say they handeled my issue fast and professional, delt with Travis and he was my contact throughout the service claim. Happy customer.

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    I am on my 3rd CSU on my 26" float 140 and it once again has started to creak. It was subtle at first but now it is pretty loud and happens nonstop as I ride. My experience with fox warranty has been excellent for the first 2 replacements (as others have also mentioned) but this time I am going to try the oil trick before I send it in. Sending it back to fox usually only puts the fork out of my hands for 1.5 weeks, but it is still annoying. Trying to get myself to just accept the noise and live with it since besides the sound the fork works fine and I am confident the noise doesn't affect performance, but so far I am too OCD about random noises on my bike.

    FYI, all 3 cases of creaky CSUs made noise at the crown stanchion interface.
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    The solution to this problem is called rock shox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejhorn View Post
    but this time I am going to try the oil trick before I send it in.
    Loctite 290 wicking grade solved it for me. Invert the fork, apply around the join, clean up any excess, leave overnight. Repeat if you're OCD No creaks for a year or so.

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    Had my 2012 Fox DRCV start creaking in December. My fork will be two years old in May, and wasn't sure what to expect when I sent it back to them. I was expecting to have to pay to have the fork rebuild in exchange for the crown being replaced. Dave at Fox was really responsive, and after receiving the fork decided that they would replace the entire fork. Not sure what else was wrong with the fork as it was meticulously maintained, but something prompted Fox to replace the entire fork. I'm very happy they did and it's making my decision to purchase a Fox fork for my new 29er build pretty easy.

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    My Fox 29'er 120 CTDs started creaking about a month ago. I checked everything else (axle, headset, stem, bars). Flipped the bike upside down and twisted the fork legs gently, and I got the creak (well, more of a click). I get it when I brake hard, or power down on the pedals.
    Suggested return time for the forks (for me down here) is two weeks, which is a long time to be without the bike. I'm thinking I will try the Loctite 290 method.
    I've had the bike since last September. I would have thought Fox would have fixed the issue by now

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    Ok, I tried the Loctite method. I used Loctite 609, applying it around the underside of the crown/steerer and crown/stanchion junctions. I left it 24 hours to cure, with the bike upside down, and then left it for another 24 hours with the bike sitting upright.

    I've just taken it for a short ride, and when powering hard, or braking hard, there is no creak. It will be interesting to see how long this holds up.

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    Rock Shox is not the solution. I know two new Pikes that are already creaking away happily...
    My 2011 36 RC2 is creaking every dusty and super warm summer. My solution is rather simple... i spray some brake cleaner between crown and steerer, blow the dirt/dust out with compressed air and flush the gap with some thin oil from a spray can. Solves this "problem" for a few years now..

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    Howdy !

    My 2013 Fox Talas started creaking from day one but las week creaking became unbearable. Followed this precious topic and added Loctite,the fork this morning is completely silent. Can this Loctite thing be considered a permanent solution or should I send in the fork for overhaul ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    Howdy !

    My 2013 Fox Talas started creaking from day one but las week creaking became unbearable. Followed this precious topic and added Loctite,the fork this morning is completely silent. Can this Loctite thing be considered a permanent solution or should I send in the fork for overhaul ?
    Glad it worked for you, how nice is it to have quiet forks again?

    My loctite 290 treated forks are still creak-free and it's been well over a year now, probably more like two, so I reckon you should be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcam View Post
    Ok, I tried the Loctite method. I used Loctite 609, applying it around the underside of the crown/steerer and crown/stanchion junctions. I left it 24 hours to cure, with the bike upside down, and then left it for another 24 hours with the bike sitting upright.

    I've just taken it for a short ride, and when powering hard, or braking hard, there is no creak. It will be interesting to see how long this holds up.
    I think mcam is on to something with the Locktite 609 Retaining Compound. I have been using the green penetrating Locktite for threaded applications and it only works for a ride or two. I just got some 609 and will be trying it soon.
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    So what is that actually happens when you add Loctite in there ? Ok the fork is now quiet again but honestly at this time I'm pretty scared at the idea of getting airborn with the bike. Am I gonna have my stanchions detached while blasting downhill ? What is that make the creaking happen in the end ?
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    Another solution I've tried besides the Loctite 290 is spraying the junctions with 7649 Loctite Primer and then using Loctite 638. Cure time is 48 hours. Be careful with the primer, it can damage powdercoat so make sure to protect the crown from excessive spray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    I think mcam is on to something with the Locktite 609 Retaining Compound. I have been using the green penetrating Locktite for threaded applications and it only works for a ride or two. I just got some 609 and will be trying it soon.
    I have a very tiny tube of 609 R.C. The website I ordered it from showed a bottle but what I received was this very tiny tube for $11 (free shipping but I'm guessing the tube was a few bucks & the rest is the 'free shipping' costs) so I hope I have enough...

    6/14:

    I put some of the 609 R.C. on the crown/steerer area & it's currently curing. Also, I got a refund on the R.C. as the site didn't send me the bottle they have pictured on their site. I'll find out Monday or Tues. if it stopped or quiets down the creaking/clicking I had (sounds like what I thought was the saddle creaking). It didn't creak all the time, just off and on.
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    Any recent experience with creaky Rock Shox Revelations?
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    How is this issue evolving? New 2013/2014 keep on creaking?
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    2011 fox forks creaking/cracking noise

    Fox replaced my 36 CSU once but refused to when second one started to make a racket, so I did the suggested 609 procedure, taking care to clean it with IPA, drying it well, and letting it cure upside down in a vice for 2-3 days. Haven't had any creaking in 6 months and it's done shuttle days...

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    I put the Loctite 609 Retaining Compound where the crown/steerer & allowed it to dry for 2 days but I got a few 'pops' riding in the street. I'm not sure how to tell if I put enough or what considering the gap around the crown is very small. I guess I'll try around the top of the stanchions where they meet the csu (if I have enough of the RC left in the little tube).

    My fork is a '11 TALAS 140 RLC that is now a FLOAT. I think it's a '11; purchased summer of '10. It's creaked/popped mildly but lately seems to have gotten a little worse; I thought for awhile it was my saddle making the noise.

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    So I'm geared up to try this myself, using a mix of 290 and 609. Did anybody leave their fork intact while trying "the fix", or were they all removed and disassembled prior? I'd like to leave mine as is, but I don't want the fork cap to get stuck too.

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    Leave it assembled.

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    I left mine assembled, and it worked fine.

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    Have you guys done the steerer tube from the bottom of the Crown, too. I did the stanchions (upside down) where they meet the Crown but I'm still experiencing the creeking noise. I used the Loctite 290 after using their Klean and Prime activator.

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    I did the steerer tube from the bottom of the crown as well.

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    Hmmm...ok. So, I applied a mix of 290 and 609 to the bottom of the crown/ stanchion interface, twice, and the steerer/crown once. Let dry for 24, then set upright for another 24. No luck. Should I do the top of the stanchion interface, and the steerer? If I do the stanchions, won't that lock the top caps?

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    Did you apply first the 290, let 24 hour cure and then apply the 609 and cure for 24 hours?

    Only apply on the stanchion/crown interface (and on the steerer/crown if you are 100% sure the creak comes from there), don't apply it anywhere else.

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    I still can't get rid of my creak. It's definitely coming from the fork- swapping to a rigid fork eliminates the noise, and I can just barely get the fork to do it in my hands.

    I mixed the two, then applied and allowed to cure for 24hr upside down, 24hr rightside up. I can see a thin ring of stuff in the stanchion/crown joint, but not under the steerer. I can try the top interface of the steerer, and remove the crown race...

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    Why did you mix them? That defeats the purpose of each loctite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya View Post
    Why did you mix them? That defeats the purpose of each loctite.
    My thought as well. Not seeing the benefit.

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    I guess I figured lowered viscosity with higher binding strength? So that it would wick into the crevices but still be strong enough to not give up over time? Because some people said that 290 didn't work, but 609 wasn't thin enough to penetrate?

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    Thank you all for this thread. I have bought a used Specialized stumpjumper carbon and have the same annoying problem with my FOX 32 fork. I tried the oil/ teflon and let it the fork stand uppside down overnigth, but that did not work. I wrote FOX services Germany, but they has not answerd yet. I guess the next step is to trie tho degrease the thing and trie the locktite solution, but there is also no garantee for succes. I Think it depnds if the fluid really can creep in between. Stupid that locktite write on their website they have the absolute solution to make pressfit fittings ultimatively stable when lockite is applied before pressing the fork togehter. Why Doesn't FOX use Locktite right from the start?

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    Everybody here's the solution for creaky steerer tube and stanchions. An exclusive process invented by the Bicycle Jesus himself.

    Stanchion Repress | Blue Liquid Labs

    Check out the suspension services page as well.

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    Thanks for that Oliver - I've parked your link away in case I run into this (I didn't even know this could be done).

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivermajewski View Post
    Everybody here's the solution for creaky steerer tube and stanchions. An exclusive process invented by the Bicycle Jesus himself.

    Stanchion Repress | Blue Liquid Labs

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    Oliver.

    Many manufacturers have tried using Loctite during CSU assembly (and some still do) to eliminate the creaking, but it eventually comes back. I personally think it's one the best solutions we have, yet it remains an unsolved problem.

    Btw, you mention you are the only one in the world doing that, but I know a few guys across the pond doing that and more, one technician even sends out wore out stanchions for centerless griding/honing and re-anodizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya View Post
    Oliver.

    Many manufacturers have tried using Loctite during CSU assembly (and some still do) to eliminate the creaking, but it eventually comes back. I personally think it's one the best solutions we have, yet it remains an unsolved problem.

    Btw, you mention you are the only one in the world doing that, but I know a few guys across the pond doing that and more, one technician even sends out wore out stanchions for centerless griding/honing and re-anodizing.
    That's incredible. Do you have the names or websites of the guys that hone and re-anodize stanchions? Also, do you have the names of the guys who are repressing steerer tubes and stanchions? Is the amount they charge for honing and reanodizing less than brand new CSU's?

    Regarding longevity, I rode the creakiest fork I've ever heard for about 8 years. I pressed everything out and pressed it back in with loctite 609 and I've been riding creak free for 3 years now. 3 years is pretty good I think. Longer than cables can stay in tune. Longer than seals can last.

    I've pressed apart many forks now from many different brands and only one has ever had any residue of some retaining compound but I know exactly how loctite brand 609 looks when new and how it looks when old. I know exactly the color and I know exactly how it feels between my fingernails when it crumbles away. The stuff I've seen this manufacturer use didnt feel at all like loctite 609 retaining compound, it had to be something else.

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    X Fusion Sweep - Creek

    I know this thread is ancient but its been a great source of information. I suspected i was getting a creek from the crown/steerer junction, thankfully this was not the case.

    I took of the forks and seen paint on the crown race. This was the cause of the creek, paint from the forks bonding to the aluminum c/race.

    I removed the paint with a blade, put a little grease between the c/r and the forks and now, no more creek.

    I faced the fork by putting a headset on(spaced it with h/set spacers) and clamping it in the work stand horizontal, then i was able to turn the forks and hold a blade against the crown. Just turned away to take it down to the metal. Came out surprisingly well. I can image a facing tool for this one job would be expensive.2011 fox forks creaking/cracking noise-gopr0297.jpg
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