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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Got my F29 back with a new upper assembly and while they were at it, replaced seals and wipers with a lowers service. No charge and no creaking after the first few rides.

    Yay Fox!
    BOOOO Fox! And the saga continues. After having my fork back for not even 2 months with a new upper assembly and maybe, maybe 100 miles on it (I ride my SS ht and rigid bikes more in the winter months), it's back to creaking at the same stanchion-to-crown interface.

    If Fox CS won't offer a whole new fork or a completely redesigned upper for a fix and wants to send me an RA for more of the same, I'm gonna pass, ride the piss out of this thing and replace it with a Reba when it blows.

    This may be my last Fox fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by travman View Post
    I have a 2012 and it has no creaking at all, least so far anyway.
    My '12 F29 120 RLC has 300 miles on it and is already creaking.......
    My '10 F29 120 RL went like 1500 miles before it started and has been quiet since they replaced the uppers, but it's only had a couple hundred miles since........

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    Crazy.. The LBS's word of advice for me about single crowns was this, "There's 2 kinds of forks. Forks that creak, and Forks that are gonna creak." I talked to my LBS and that's what he said. He said ALOT of the new 2011 Fox's that they sold New aftermarket and on complete bike builds are coming back in spades with creaking. He said they go to Fox, come back fixxed, and then come back again 4-6 mos later. Especially the 20mm tapered forks 100-160mm. He said that the Fox guys told them "The new forks are being made so stiff now that guys are really beating on them until eventually something's gotta give. They're press fit and so there's not much they can do about making them stronger, They told me to try spraying a LITTLE penetrating oil into the press fit seal every couple months to get rid of the noise" ....... I did do this and 5 mins into my ride, the noise was gone. It was gone for about 2 weeks and eventually came back, So now I have a spray can of penetrating oil in my Bike tool Box. We'll see how long this works. Probably till a fork leg pops completly thru. OHHHH, the best part is this, I bought mine on EBAY so , they wont cover the re press fitting if I need it. It will cost me 300.00.
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    Well, last week I sent my 36 back for the 4th time in 9 months. Strangely though I'm not upset about the situation at all because Fox is quick, their customer service is great, and they always get me back up and riding in a week.

    Their manager said they will use my most recent creaker in a study they are doing to understand the issue causing this problem. They are also upgrading me to a brand new 36 Float RLC with the Kashima coat. He said the Kashima forks use a thermal fit method for securing the stantions rather than press fit so the idea is that the Kashima forks will be less susceptible to creaking.

    I am pretty stoked to be on a new fork here soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    Their manager said they will use my most recent creaker in a study they are doing to understand the issue causing this problem. They are also upgrading me to a brand new 36 Float RLC with the Kashima coat. He said the Kashima forks use a thermal fit method for securing the stantions rather than press fit so the idea is that the Kashima forks will be less susceptible to creaking.

    I am pretty stoked to be on a new fork here soon!
    I see a new 34 in my future, courtesy of Fox, of course...
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    I see a new 34 in my future, courtesy of Fox, of course...
    Here's hoping Kashima is the methadone to our crack problem

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    Maybe the assembly of the 34's with kashima is better than the 32's?
    My '12 32's creak desite their kashima....

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    Don't you mean MethaGone to the "Creak" epidemic.

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    Pre Heat treating a press fit,hmmmm. If Fox is able to figure out something that can be adapted industry wide that would be sweet. Hopefully a couple years from now , this issue will have been dealt with and we'll have moved on to some other growing pain . Why is it that the sound of creak has the Ability to bring the ride/ fun level from a 9 to a 6 eventhough nothing is really hindering the bike's performance? Maybe I should start riding with an ipod more to drown out the sound. That'll get ride of it.

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    Wow... Just stumbled across this thread. My 2011 Float 32 rl is on its second trip to Fox for the creaking. Funny how LBS or Fox made no mention of this being an ongoing issue???

    I am insisting a new fork if it happens again. The first trip to fox took almost 4 weeks to accomplish the fix.... NOT good. Second creak began after only 4 rides.

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    Well since I was told by X Fusion Tech support that the 150-160 36mm forks on AM bikes are the ones in the greatest danger of developing a creak, I accepted the logic behind it, even though I thought it was shitty. I thought, "Oh well, they'll figure it out in a year or 2 and then make a ton of dough on "the new and improved" generation of forks." But now since lower travel forks on less agressive bikes are turning up creakey, I am thinking that maybe it's a quality control issue since last I heard that Fox and X Fusion were using the same Taiwanese manufaturer. Ive not heard any mention of late that Totems or Lyrics are suffering from a rash of creaks. I had an RS Totem for 2 years and it was sound the day I sold it. Just a hunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    He said the Kashima forks use a thermal fit method for securing the stantions rather than press fit so the idea is that the Kashima forks will be less susceptible to creaking.

    I am pretty stoked to be on a new fork here soon!
    I hate to tell you this, my 36 FLoat is a Kashima FIT RLC and it has had the uppers replaced twice in 5 months due to creaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck_tacoma View Post
    I hate to tell you this, my 36 FLoat is a Kashima FIT RLC and it has had the uppers replaced twice in 5 months due to creaking.
    Me to. 32 talas and float kashima. Sold em both. Now have a Rev and a lyrik and no probs.

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    I have some 2007 fox float 36 160mm travel forks they don't make any creaking noises???? Is it just the newer ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck_tacoma View Post
    I hate to tell you this, my 36 FLoat is a Kashima FIT RLC and it has had the uppers replaced twice in 5 months due to creaking.
    I'm on my 3rd set of uppers for my 36 Van 180 Kashima's and they've started creaking again after a few weeks, if anything the replacements last less time than the originals.

    Mojo (Fox's warranty repairers here in the UK) would only replace them if I paid for a service as they're well out of warranty, but did say they should'nt fail due to the creaking, I'm gonna be going back to Marzocchi fairly soon........

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    I think you are right, It does seem to be new ones. The LBS told me that alot of 2011 stock 32 and 36's that come on the Spesh and SanatCruz AM's sold in house are getting warrantied. They must have used a new manufacturer or fabricator along the line because I know they don't do it in house. I am gonna seriously consider a RS this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travo View Post
    I'm on my 3rd set of uppers for my 36 Van 180 Kashima's and they've started creaking again after a few weeks, if anything the replacements last less time than the originals.

    Mojo (Fox's warranty repairers here in the UK) would only replace them if I paid for a service as they're well out of warranty, but did say they should'nt fail due to the creaking, I'm gonna be going back to Marzocchi fairly soon........
    I experienced the same thing. The replacements started creaking almost right away...

    I dont know about going back to Marzocchi.... Thats kind of like threatening fox that you are going to **** your pants instead of using their product.

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    just sent a fork in to fox this week for creaking. took the fork off and wheel out. slapped some bars and stem on the fork and it creaks. tested the bars and stem on a loaner fork, no creak

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    No creaking on the new 2012 Kashima Float RLC fox sent me... yet but I've only put a few rides on it. After 5 forks in a single year being sent back to warranty I wouldn't be surprised if it starts happening again.

    I wish we knew what they were doing different on these newer forks since my old '08 36 lasted years without even a hint of creakiness.

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    This is somewhat disturbing... I have a new (close out) 2011 float 32 coming... Hope it doesn't creek

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    What steerer tube sizes do you guys have? Perhaps the 1 1/8th steerers are very prone to creaking compared to tapered or full 1.5.

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    ^ I have 1 1/8" and zero noise. 2011 Fox Float 36.
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    All my creakers have been tapered steer tubes.

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    i have a 36 vanilla with a 1.5" straight steerer tube. super creaky. moved to a lyrik and have never been happier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya View Post
    What steerer tube sizes do you guys have? Perhaps the 1 1/8th steerers are very prone to creaking compared to tapered or full 1.5.
    Taper here x3. Wanting to try the 1 1/8

    Not 100% sure, but i'm guessing part of the problem has to do with the lowers/axle interface on damper leg. Threaded brake side is much more secure, can't torque the clamp bolts too much
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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    This is somewhat disturbing... I have a new (close out) 2011 float 32 coming... Hope it doesn't creek
    They sent me a 2012 actually... Hopefully less chance of creaking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryantaber View Post
    Well since I was told by X Fusion Tech support that the 150-160 36mm forks on AM bikes are the ones in the greatest danger of developing a creak, I accepted the logic behind it, even though I thought it was shitty. I thought, "Oh well, they'll figure it out in a year or 2 and then make a ton of dough on "the new and improved" generation of forks." But now since lower travel forks on less agressive bikes are turning up creakey, I am thinking that maybe it's a quality control issue since last I heard that Fox and X Fusion were using the same Taiwanese manufaturer. Ive not heard any mention of late that Totems or Lyrics are suffering from a rash of creaks. I had an RS Totem for 2 years and it was sound the day I sold it. Just a hunch.
    Have you figured out whether its the steerer and crown interface or is it the crown and stanchions that is developing the creak?

    My Vengeance Air had this creak after ~14mths of use but otherwise was fine. I did try to get some micro-oil in between the stanchions and crown, it stops for awhile but would come back after a few rides and I really suspect the creaks is more than just there.. part of it probably comes from the steerer-crown area.

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    so far it's not the steerer- crown at all, It's just the stanchion - crown spot. Only on the rebound leg. One squirt under the crown on the stanchion the night before I ride with the bike up side down. Then the next day the creak is gone. It's not really even a full creak yet. It's more of a "Teek" sound usually when I shift forward during braking then shift my weight backward during acceleration. When the front brake is locked and I touch the stanchion/crown area with my weight trying to twist the fork , I can feel it wiggle under there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil_den View Post
    I really suspect the creaks is more than just there.. part of it probably comes from the steerer-crown area.
    You are correct, my last taper was creaking at the steerer this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil_den View Post
    Have you figured out whether its the steerer and crown interface or is it the crown and stanchions that is developing the creak?

    My Vengeance Air had this creak after ~14mths of use but otherwise was fine. I did try to get some micro-oil in between the stanchions and crown, it stops for awhile but would come back after a few rides and I really suspect the creaks is more than just there.. part of it probably comes from the steerer-crown area.
    My Vengeance is also creaking. So did my Float before that.

    I had a 32mm Revelation for a year which didn't make a sound.

    All of them had 1 1/8" steerer tubes.

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    Same issue with my Fox 32's. Warrantied and creak came back. Going to try the DIY solutions to hold out until I buy a different brand fork next time around.

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    Maybe try to apply Loctite 290 on the stanchion-crown and steerer tube-crown interfaces and let it penetrate for 10 or 20 minutes, then remove the excess. Loctite 290 is capillary so it should be able to penetrate deep inside the interfaces and it solidifies anaerobically. It's worth a shot I think.

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    the locktite route is the plan once i have a chance to pick some up. short term, i flipped bike over, applied small amount of WD40 were stantions meets crown and where the steerer integrates under the crown. Allowed to sit for an hour. Then flipped it over, applied to top of stantions on each side and let it sit until i rode the next day. Creaking was gone by 95%. my creaking was as bad as video posted earlier. Proves the penetrating oils should be the DIY fix. I also weigh 220lbs. Will keep everyone posted on how long the WD works and then will update once i do the locktite route. Still will look to purchase another brand fork when it's time.

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    Glad to hear it worked,but WD40 is not penetrating oil. You should get some because the WD is sylicone and is gonna work to clean out and create more space in those areas. It breaks down quicker too. The effects are very temporary. Bottom line is that the creek will come back quicker than with the oil , maybe louder next time. The only bike use for WD40 is as a degreaser or a mild cleaner before you re-lube something. 20years ago I ruined at least half a dozen chains and BMX hubs using Sylicone for everything til a bike shop set me straight. CHEERS!

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    Thanks for this thread! Front end was creaking. Tried everything else. Saw this thread, it was the axle--greased it well and put it back...no creaks. Thanks.

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    I like the Loctite 290 idea. Has anyone actually tried this? I was about to do the oil, but I might get better adhesion with the Loctite if there is not oil in the crevices first.

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    Is 290 the green penetrating..Was afraid of this creaking issue, should use bolts like old Marzo forks,guess lawyers changed this due to riders forgetting to due up the bolts. I used green penetrating right out of the box on a 2004 Van R 125 on crown steer tube , and stanchion crown press. Great Fork.

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    flipped bike over. applied bead of red loctite around both stantions where they meet the top crown. let sit 12 hours. gently removed excess. flipped over and applied bead of red loctite to top of crown/ stantions. let set 12 hours. gently removed excess.

    creaking gone by 95% other than when i really apply the pressure to the fork (roll over log, drop, etc.)

    made the ride tolerable and don't hear it creak when i look at it.

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    I applied 290 to a client's Fox 32 Float 150 tapered. I'll get back to you guys on the results.

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    Now I have two Fox forks that creak. My newest one, a 180 Kashima, has started to make noise.

    Just wondering if the newer forks, the 2012 with the darker Kashima coating, are creaking? Or is it just the 2011's?
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    no creaking yet on the 2012 replacements, they're not any darker color, just logo near the top now

    If getting them replaced, make sure you request same color stanchions or you will get one darker leg
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    2011 Talas warrantied for creaking steerer tube/crown at about 12 months. 2012 was silent for about 4 months but is now going back to Fox... Hoping they get it worked out as I really like the fork's performance.

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    My 01 Fox 32 150 has been in twice for creaking. Second time they gave me Kashima uppers crown and steer tube. 6 month later it is creaking again and back to Fox. I will say that they are very good about taking care of it and always let me know up front how long it will take (usually a couple weeks). I just wish it would stay fixed. Does anyone know if the 36 is reputed to be any less likely to creak? I am 175lbs and don't drop anything more than 3'.

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    My 36 Kashima Float RLC which I was given a couple months ago is creaking too. I think this marks my 6th creaking fork in nearly 12 months.

    Fox says there isn't a CSU solution out yet (the '13s are the same as the '12s) but that they are working on this issue currently. What they are going to try with me is something their race team has just started experimenting with: facing the surface of the crown where the top caps screw in. The idea is to remove any debris (paint, excess metal) that could contribute to a slight loosening and retorque to 250 lbs. Their customer service manager said that if this works for me then they'll start using it as a procedure for other creakers.

    As everyone else says, Fox is always good to work with and as a result I've never felt upset by this issue. The turn around times on these forks are quick, and I've really gotten the sense that they actually do care. The manager has told me multiple times that whenever they have a new CSU that fixes this issue he'll get me on it ASAP. Hopefully in the meantime this new fix will keep the creaks away for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    As everyone else says, Fox is always good to work with and as a result I've never felt upset by this issue. The turn around times on these forks are quick, and I've really gotten the sense that they actually do care.
    Yup, same experience here...Fox are very helpful on this.

    Now if only they'd solve the issue, it would make life much easier for us AND fox. So strange that this is such a persistent problem. Its not like press fit steerers are a new thing.

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    Same boat...

    Thought I might chime in here too. I have had the creak on three Fox 36's in the last year. First was a 2011 Float 180 Kashima and was sent to Fox under warranty. Fox sent back a 2012 model (nice!) and I recently installed it on my Knolly Delirium. After about 10 rides the 2012 is starting to creak also. I ran a 2011 36 160 RLC for about 6 months on the Delirium and it also developed a creak in the upper/CSU. Fox warrantied that fork and I decided to sell it after the repair.

    I now have a 2012 Float 36 160 Rlc in Black that I ordered with my new frame, a Knolly Chilcotin. So far this fork is not creaking. The Chilcotin is not quite as stiff as the truss like Delirium, so I am hoping it will not be an issue.

    Thanks for the information on the DIY fixes. I may be trying the Locktite 290 Green on my 2012 180. I plan to talk with Fox about the Locktite before I do it. Will report back with any new information.
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    Don't tell them about the loctite, they are going to steal my fix!!!!!

    I talked to the customer who I applied the loctite fix, he says the creak is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya View Post
    Don't tell them about the loctite, they are going to steal my fix!!!!!

    I talked to the customer who I applied the loctite fix, he says the creak is gone.
    Your idea My idea Post # 56

    Just having fun with ya Glad it's working
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Your idea My idea Post # 56

    Just having fun with ya Glad it's working
    Mea culpa, didn't read your post!

    But I specified which loctite to use

    Anyways, lets see if more people try it out and what results they get.

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    The fox float32rl on my Trek Superfly AL elite was creaking so it was sent back to fox on warranty a week ago. Today i got my bike back and no more creaking

    I'm not exactly sure what they did but i think they changed the crown because the white on it is not the same that in the bottoms(not as shiny) and they changed one of the stanchions because i can see a slight difference of color between the two (the left one is darker)

    I thought they would change the whole CSU and so i asked my lbs to cut the tube 5 cm longer to get my bar higher but no luck fox put back the "old" one...

    One thing i'm not so happy about is that the lockout lever is not as thight as it used to be, so it makes a light clinging noise when i ride on a rought surface... Is this normal?

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