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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Got my F29 back with a new upper assembly and while they were at it, replaced seals and wipers with a lowers service. No charge and no creaking after the first few rides.

    Yay Fox!
    BOOOO Fox! And the saga continues. After having my fork back for not even 2 months with a new upper assembly and maybe, maybe 100 miles on it (I ride my SS ht and rigid bikes more in the winter months), it's back to creaking at the same stanchion-to-crown interface.

    If Fox CS won't offer a whole new fork or a completely redesigned upper for a fix and wants to send me an RA for more of the same, I'm gonna pass, ride the piss out of this thing and replace it with a Reba when it blows.

    This may be my last Fox fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by travman View Post
    I have a 2012 and it has no creaking at all, least so far anyway.
    My '12 F29 120 RLC has 300 miles on it and is already creaking.......
    My '10 F29 120 RL went like 1500 miles before it started and has been quiet since they replaced the uppers, but it's only had a couple hundred miles since........

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    Crazy.. The LBS's word of advice for me about single crowns was this, "There's 2 kinds of forks. Forks that creak, and Forks that are gonna creak." I talked to my LBS and that's what he said. He said ALOT of the new 2011 Fox's that they sold New aftermarket and on complete bike builds are coming back in spades with creaking. He said they go to Fox, come back fixxed, and then come back again 4-6 mos later. Especially the 20mm tapered forks 100-160mm. He said that the Fox guys told them "The new forks are being made so stiff now that guys are really beating on them until eventually something's gotta give. They're press fit and so there's not much they can do about making them stronger, They told me to try spraying a LITTLE penetrating oil into the press fit seal every couple months to get rid of the noise" ....... I did do this and 5 mins into my ride, the noise was gone. It was gone for about 2 weeks and eventually came back, So now I have a spray can of penetrating oil in my Bike tool Box. We'll see how long this works. Probably till a fork leg pops completly thru. OHHHH, the best part is this, I bought mine on EBAY so , they wont cover the re press fitting if I need it. It will cost me 300.00.
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    Well, last week I sent my 36 back for the 4th time in 9 months. Strangely though I'm not upset about the situation at all because Fox is quick, their customer service is great, and they always get me back up and riding in a week.

    Their manager said they will use my most recent creaker in a study they are doing to understand the issue causing this problem. They are also upgrading me to a brand new 36 Float RLC with the Kashima coat. He said the Kashima forks use a thermal fit method for securing the stantions rather than press fit so the idea is that the Kashima forks will be less susceptible to creaking.

    I am pretty stoked to be on a new fork here soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    Their manager said they will use my most recent creaker in a study they are doing to understand the issue causing this problem. They are also upgrading me to a brand new 36 Float RLC with the Kashima coat. He said the Kashima forks use a thermal fit method for securing the stantions rather than press fit so the idea is that the Kashima forks will be less susceptible to creaking.

    I am pretty stoked to be on a new fork here soon!
    I see a new 34 in my future, courtesy of Fox, of course...
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    I see a new 34 in my future, courtesy of Fox, of course...
    Here's hoping Kashima is the methadone to our crack problem

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    Maybe the assembly of the 34's with kashima is better than the 32's?
    My '12 32's creak desite their kashima....

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    Don't you mean MethaGone to the "Creak" epidemic.

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    Pre Heat treating a press fit,hmmmm. If Fox is able to figure out something that can be adapted industry wide that would be sweet. Hopefully a couple years from now , this issue will have been dealt with and we'll have moved on to some other growing pain . Why is it that the sound of creak has the Ability to bring the ride/ fun level from a 9 to a 6 eventhough nothing is really hindering the bike's performance? Maybe I should start riding with an ipod more to drown out the sound. That'll get ride of it.

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    Wow... Just stumbled across this thread. My 2011 Float 32 rl is on its second trip to Fox for the creaking. Funny how LBS or Fox made no mention of this being an ongoing issue???

    I am insisting a new fork if it happens again. The first trip to fox took almost 4 weeks to accomplish the fix.... NOT good. Second creak began after only 4 rides.

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    Qaulity Control??

    Well since I was told by X Fusion Tech support that the 150-160 36mm forks on AM bikes are the ones in the greatest danger of developing a creak, I accepted the logic behind it, even though I thought it was shitty. I thought, "Oh well, they'll figure it out in a year or 2 and then make a ton of dough on "the new and improved" generation of forks." But now since lower travel forks on less agressive bikes are turning up creakey, I am thinking that maybe it's a quality control issue since last I heard that Fox and X Fusion were using the same Taiwanese manufaturer. Ive not heard any mention of late that Totems or Lyrics are suffering from a rash of creaks. I had an RS Totem for 2 years and it was sound the day I sold it. Just a hunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    He said the Kashima forks use a thermal fit method for securing the stantions rather than press fit so the idea is that the Kashima forks will be less susceptible to creaking.

    I am pretty stoked to be on a new fork here soon!
    I hate to tell you this, my 36 FLoat is a Kashima FIT RLC and it has had the uppers replaced twice in 5 months due to creaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck_tacoma View Post
    I hate to tell you this, my 36 FLoat is a Kashima FIT RLC and it has had the uppers replaced twice in 5 months due to creaking.
    Me to. 32 talas and float kashima. Sold em both. Now have a Rev and a lyrik and no probs.

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    I have some 2007 fox float 36 160mm travel forks they don't make any creaking noises???? Is it just the newer ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck_tacoma View Post
    I hate to tell you this, my 36 FLoat is a Kashima FIT RLC and it has had the uppers replaced twice in 5 months due to creaking.
    I'm on my 3rd set of uppers for my 36 Van 180 Kashima's and they've started creaking again after a few weeks, if anything the replacements last less time than the originals.

    Mojo (Fox's warranty repairers here in the UK) would only replace them if I paid for a service as they're well out of warranty, but did say they should'nt fail due to the creaking, I'm gonna be going back to Marzocchi fairly soon........

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    I think you are right, It does seem to be new ones. The LBS told me that alot of 2011 stock 32 and 36's that come on the Spesh and SanatCruz AM's sold in house are getting warrantied. They must have used a new manufacturer or fabricator along the line because I know they don't do it in house. I am gonna seriously consider a RS this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travo View Post
    I'm on my 3rd set of uppers for my 36 Van 180 Kashima's and they've started creaking again after a few weeks, if anything the replacements last less time than the originals.

    Mojo (Fox's warranty repairers here in the UK) would only replace them if I paid for a service as they're well out of warranty, but did say they should'nt fail due to the creaking, I'm gonna be going back to Marzocchi fairly soon........
    I experienced the same thing. The replacements started creaking almost right away...

    I dont know about going back to Marzocchi.... Thats kind of like threatening fox that you are going to **** your pants instead of using their product.

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    just sent a fork in to fox this week for creaking. took the fork off and wheel out. slapped some bars and stem on the fork and it creaks. tested the bars and stem on a loaner fork, no creak

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    No creaking on the new 2012 Kashima Float RLC fox sent me... yet but I've only put a few rides on it. After 5 forks in a single year being sent back to warranty I wouldn't be surprised if it starts happening again.

    I wish we knew what they were doing different on these newer forks since my old '08 36 lasted years without even a hint of creakiness.

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    This is somewhat disturbing... I have a new (close out) 2011 float 32 coming... Hope it doesn't creek

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    What steerer tube sizes do you guys have? Perhaps the 1 1/8th steerers are very prone to creaking compared to tapered or full 1.5.

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    ^ I have 1 1/8" and zero noise. 2011 Fox Float 36.
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    All my creakers have been tapered steer tubes.

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    i have a 36 vanilla with a 1.5" straight steerer tube. super creaky. moved to a lyrik and have never been happier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya View Post
    What steerer tube sizes do you guys have? Perhaps the 1 1/8th steerers are very prone to creaking compared to tapered or full 1.5.
    Taper here x3. Wanting to try the 1 1/8

    Not 100% sure, but i'm guessing part of the problem has to do with the lowers/axle interface on damper leg. Threaded brake side is much more secure, can't torque the clamp bolts too much
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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    This is somewhat disturbing... I have a new (close out) 2011 float 32 coming... Hope it doesn't creek
    They sent me a 2012 actually... Hopefully less chance of creaking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryantaber View Post
    Well since I was told by X Fusion Tech support that the 150-160 36mm forks on AM bikes are the ones in the greatest danger of developing a creak, I accepted the logic behind it, even though I thought it was shitty. I thought, "Oh well, they'll figure it out in a year or 2 and then make a ton of dough on "the new and improved" generation of forks." But now since lower travel forks on less agressive bikes are turning up creakey, I am thinking that maybe it's a quality control issue since last I heard that Fox and X Fusion were using the same Taiwanese manufaturer. Ive not heard any mention of late that Totems or Lyrics are suffering from a rash of creaks. I had an RS Totem for 2 years and it was sound the day I sold it. Just a hunch.
    Have you figured out whether its the steerer and crown interface or is it the crown and stanchions that is developing the creak?

    My Vengeance Air had this creak after ~14mths of use but otherwise was fine. I did try to get some micro-oil in between the stanchions and crown, it stops for awhile but would come back after a few rides and I really suspect the creaks is more than just there.. part of it probably comes from the steerer-crown area.

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    so far it's not the steerer- crown at all, It's just the stanchion - crown spot. Only on the rebound leg. One squirt under the crown on the stanchion the night before I ride with the bike up side down. Then the next day the creak is gone. It's not really even a full creak yet. It's more of a "Teek" sound usually when I shift forward during braking then shift my weight backward during acceleration. When the front brake is locked and I touch the stanchion/crown area with my weight trying to twist the fork , I can feel it wiggle under there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil_den View Post
    I really suspect the creaks is more than just there.. part of it probably comes from the steerer-crown area.
    You are correct, my last taper was creaking at the steerer this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil_den View Post
    Have you figured out whether its the steerer and crown interface or is it the crown and stanchions that is developing the creak?

    My Vengeance Air had this creak after ~14mths of use but otherwise was fine. I did try to get some micro-oil in between the stanchions and crown, it stops for awhile but would come back after a few rides and I really suspect the creaks is more than just there.. part of it probably comes from the steerer-crown area.
    My Vengeance is also creaking. So did my Float before that.

    I had a 32mm Revelation for a year which didn't make a sound.

    All of them had 1 1/8" steerer tubes.

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    Same issue with my Fox 32's. Warrantied and creak came back. Going to try the DIY solutions to hold out until I buy a different brand fork next time around.

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    Maybe try to apply Loctite 290 on the stanchion-crown and steerer tube-crown interfaces and let it penetrate for 10 or 20 minutes, then remove the excess. Loctite 290 is capillary so it should be able to penetrate deep inside the interfaces and it solidifies anaerobically. It's worth a shot I think.

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    the locktite route is the plan once i have a chance to pick some up. short term, i flipped bike over, applied small amount of WD40 were stantions meets crown and where the steerer integrates under the crown. Allowed to sit for an hour. Then flipped it over, applied to top of stantions on each side and let it sit until i rode the next day. Creaking was gone by 95%. my creaking was as bad as video posted earlier. Proves the penetrating oils should be the DIY fix. I also weigh 220lbs. Will keep everyone posted on how long the WD works and then will update once i do the locktite route. Still will look to purchase another brand fork when it's time.

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    Glad to hear it worked,but WD40 is not penetrating oil. You should get some because the WD is sylicone and is gonna work to clean out and create more space in those areas. It breaks down quicker too. The effects are very temporary. Bottom line is that the creek will come back quicker than with the oil , maybe louder next time. The only bike use for WD40 is as a degreaser or a mild cleaner before you re-lube something. 20years ago I ruined at least half a dozen chains and BMX hubs using Sylicone for everything til a bike shop set me straight. CHEERS!

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    Thanks for this thread! Front end was creaking. Tried everything else. Saw this thread, it was the axle--greased it well and put it back...no creaks. Thanks.

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    I like the Loctite 290 idea. Has anyone actually tried this? I was about to do the oil, but I might get better adhesion with the Loctite if there is not oil in the crevices first.

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    Is 290 the green penetrating..Was afraid of this creaking issue, should use bolts like old Marzo forks,guess lawyers changed this due to riders forgetting to due up the bolts. I used green penetrating right out of the box on a 2004 Van R 125 on crown steer tube , and stanchion crown press. Great Fork.

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    flipped bike over. applied bead of red loctite around both stantions where they meet the top crown. let sit 12 hours. gently removed excess. flipped over and applied bead of red loctite to top of crown/ stantions. let set 12 hours. gently removed excess.

    creaking gone by 95% other than when i really apply the pressure to the fork (roll over log, drop, etc.)

    made the ride tolerable and don't hear it creak when i look at it.

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    I applied 290 to a client's Fox 32 Float 150 tapered. I'll get back to you guys on the results.

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    Now I have two Fox forks that creak. My newest one, a 180 Kashima, has started to make noise.

    Just wondering if the newer forks, the 2012 with the darker Kashima coating, are creaking? Or is it just the 2011's?
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    no creaking yet on the 2012 replacements, they're not any darker color, just logo near the top now

    If getting them replaced, make sure you request same color stanchions or you will get one darker leg
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    2011 Talas warrantied for creaking steerer tube/crown at about 12 months. 2012 was silent for about 4 months but is now going back to Fox... Hoping they get it worked out as I really like the fork's performance.

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    My 01 Fox 32 150 has been in twice for creaking. Second time they gave me Kashima uppers crown and steer tube. 6 month later it is creaking again and back to Fox. I will say that they are very good about taking care of it and always let me know up front how long it will take (usually a couple weeks). I just wish it would stay fixed. Does anyone know if the 36 is reputed to be any less likely to creak? I am 175lbs and don't drop anything more than 3'.

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    My 36 Kashima Float RLC which I was given a couple months ago is creaking too. I think this marks my 6th creaking fork in nearly 12 months.

    Fox says there isn't a CSU solution out yet (the '13s are the same as the '12s) but that they are working on this issue currently. What they are going to try with me is something their race team has just started experimenting with: facing the surface of the crown where the top caps screw in. The idea is to remove any debris (paint, excess metal) that could contribute to a slight loosening and retorque to 250 lbs. Their customer service manager said that if this works for me then they'll start using it as a procedure for other creakers.

    As everyone else says, Fox is always good to work with and as a result I've never felt upset by this issue. The turn around times on these forks are quick, and I've really gotten the sense that they actually do care. The manager has told me multiple times that whenever they have a new CSU that fixes this issue he'll get me on it ASAP. Hopefully in the meantime this new fix will keep the creaks away for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    As everyone else says, Fox is always good to work with and as a result I've never felt upset by this issue. The turn around times on these forks are quick, and I've really gotten the sense that they actually do care.
    Yup, same experience here...Fox are very helpful on this.

    Now if only they'd solve the issue, it would make life much easier for us AND fox. So strange that this is such a persistent problem. Its not like press fit steerers are a new thing.

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    Same boat...

    Thought I might chime in here too. I have had the creak on three Fox 36's in the last year. First was a 2011 Float 180 Kashima and was sent to Fox under warranty. Fox sent back a 2012 model (nice!) and I recently installed it on my Knolly Delirium. After about 10 rides the 2012 is starting to creak also. I ran a 2011 36 160 RLC for about 6 months on the Delirium and it also developed a creak in the upper/CSU. Fox warrantied that fork and I decided to sell it after the repair.

    I now have a 2012 Float 36 160 Rlc in Black that I ordered with my new frame, a Knolly Chilcotin. So far this fork is not creaking. The Chilcotin is not quite as stiff as the truss like Delirium, so I am hoping it will not be an issue.

    Thanks for the information on the DIY fixes. I may be trying the Locktite 290 Green on my 2012 180. I plan to talk with Fox about the Locktite before I do it. Will report back with any new information.
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    Don't tell them about the loctite, they are going to steal my fix!!!!!

    I talked to the customer who I applied the loctite fix, he says the creak is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacubaya View Post
    Don't tell them about the loctite, they are going to steal my fix!!!!!

    I talked to the customer who I applied the loctite fix, he says the creak is gone.
    Your idea My idea Post # 56

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Your idea My idea Post # 56

    Just having fun with ya Glad it's working
    Mea culpa, didn't read your post!

    But I specified which loctite to use

    Anyways, lets see if more people try it out and what results they get.

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    The fox float32rl on my Trek Superfly AL elite was creaking so it was sent back to fox on warranty a week ago. Today i got my bike back and no more creaking

    I'm not exactly sure what they did but i think they changed the crown because the white on it is not the same that in the bottoms(not as shiny) and they changed one of the stanchions because i can see a slight difference of color between the two (the left one is darker)

    I thought they would change the whole CSU and so i asked my lbs to cut the tube 5 cm longer to get my bar higher but no luck fox put back the "old" one...

    One thing i'm not so happy about is that the lockout lever is not as thight as it used to be, so it makes a light clinging noise when i ride on a rought surface... Is this normal?

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    Fox took a month to get me my 2010 Talas back. The replacement crowns were back ordered which caused the delay. If you are past 1 year but less than 2 years from purchase, Fox will replace the crown but charge you for a rebuild of $175. Hoping for Kashima stanctions on replacement crown, but told the thread pitch is different. Does this sound right? It does have less stiction though with the new style seals though. Wish I had just done the 290 locktite, as it sucked riding my wife's Rockhopper for the last month.

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    Also sucks to cough up $175.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonynapalm View Post
    The fox float32rl on my Trek Superfly AL elite was creaking so it was sent back to fox on warranty a week ago. Today i got my bike back and no more creaking

    I'm not exactly sure what they did but i think they changed the crown because the white on it is not the same that in the bottoms(not as shiny) and they changed one of the stanchions because i can see a slight difference of color between the two (the left one is darker)

    I thought they would change the whole CSU and so i asked my lbs to cut the tube 5 cm longer to get my bar higher but no luck fox put back the "old" one...

    One thing i'm not so happy about is that the lockout lever is not as thight as it used to be, so it makes a light clinging noise when i ride on a rought surface... Is this normal?
    Ok, i told my lbs i wasn't happy about the warranty ( crown not shiny, lockout lever scratched and loose, scratch on top nut), so they called the fox distributor (here in Belgium it's Sabma) and they are ordering a white shiny crown from Fox in USA, it's a specific model made for Trek (G2 geometry) but it will take weeks to arrive... And hopefully they will fix the other issues...


    I'll keep you updated

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    Well, I had the creaky crown again after a month on a new fork, but I will say Fox was outstanding in taking care of me.

    Downside was that 3 of my last 4 Fox Front Forks have developed the creaking (though 1 of my last 2 Rock Shox did the same).

    I'm 195lbs, so while big I'm not huge. Don't jump much.

    That said Fox was excellent in taking care of me. VERY fast turnaround, steerer was cut and they even did a travel change for me at the same time. I have to say at least Fox allows you the consumer to deal directly with them, whereas Rock Shox makes you deal with the dealer. Huge difference for me.

    So, while I sure wish the MFG's would figure out these creaky crowns and stanchions, I can say Fox was very easy to deal with, and had an excellent turnaround time for me. They were great about it.

    I pretty much will only deal with companies that let me deal directly with them if I can at all do so. I still ride grip shift, so that's SRAM, but honestly those parts are insanely durable and trouble free.
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    My 2011 Float 36 160 is off to fox for the same noise too
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    2011 Float 160 RLC suck, no wonder they're gone. I just flipped mine over and sprayed some Jig A Loo in there lol. Creak gone, and hucking huge drops no issues. If you want a much better fork go 160 Van hands down, hard to find now though.

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    Does anyone know where to buy the Locktite 290 Green? I have checked multiple automotive stores and they only carry red and blue. Would rather not purchase online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    Does anyone know where to buy the Locktite 290 Green? I have checked multiple automotive stores and they only carry red and blue. Would rather not purchase online.

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    Now on my 3rd set of uppers since starting this thread, just got my 36's back from Mojo (uk service/warranty) They replaced the CSU for free whilst servicing them and I can't fault the service from Mojo's, forks look like new, they've even put the latest stickers and now have the later uppers with the Kashima writing on them.

    Now I've just got the dilemma whether to stick with the fox's knowing they'll more than likely start creaking again in a few months or sell the now new shiny looking fox's and buy some marz 55 rc3 evo's (3 year no service warranty), just not sure if I could live with an all white fork though.....

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    Did you have kashima on the previous stanchions or is it an update from regular?

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    Yep, the original and all previous replacement uppers we're kashima coated, the earlier ones didn't have 'kashima' written on them, think it's a 2012 thing

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    Just got my fork back from Fox, to my surprise I was given a brand new 2013 Float 36. This one has the FIT system, high and low speed compression adjustment.I was very surprised
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    How bad was the creaking on your guy's forks? I have a 2011 F29 Talas that has had a little click for a while, but on todays ride it came to a new level. I kept checking my bike to see if something was broke, I could feel the click through my handle grips. I checked my spokes and they seem good. I did have a wheel bearing that was a little rough, so I have those on order. I am able to produce a series of clicks/ticks by tugging on lowers...I am assuming it is time to contact Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    I am able to produce a series of clicks/ticks by tugging on lowers...I am assuming it is time to contact Fox.
    Yep. Mine is on its second upper assembly and this one clicks/creaks/ticks in both the stanchion/crown and steer tube/crown interfaces. Started doing so 3 mos after they installed the new upper.
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    I can't believe I havent seen this thread until now. I've noticed a creak in the front end of my bike since shortly after buying it and this is exactly what the problem is . . . I just assumed to "deal with it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Yep. Mine is on its second upper assembly and this one clicks/creaks/ticks in both the stanchion/crown and steer tube/crown interfaces. Started doing so 3 mos after they installed the new upper.
    2012 service ?

    Had this one since mid Dec. and performance has been great. And the seals are better too. The 2011 crown's would've been creaking by now
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    So I just called and was told that its NOT a safety issue, but that it IS something that I need to get done. They told me 3 weeks in house time

    Sounds like some folks have had faster service than this? They did not mention anything about a rebuild cost by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    So I just called and was told that its NOT a safety issue, but that it IS something that I need to get done. They told me 3 weeks in house time

    Sounds like some folks have had faster service than this? They did not mention anything about a rebuild cost by the way.
    My service was one week but it was in winter, off peak riding for many. They were not as busy.

    Also, you may be able to pay $20 extra to jump to the front of the line just behind others that coughed up $20 but ahead of those that did not. It may be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerhillJ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatgerm View Post
    My service was one week but it was in winter, off peak riding for many. They were not as busy.

    Also, you may be able to pay $20 extra to jump to the front of the line just behind others that coughed up $20 but ahead of those that did not. It may be worth it.
    I might do that. I have a trip planned at the end of August that I have to have the bike ready for.
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    Oh crap I also have this creaking/cracking noise on my 2011 FIT RL 140 mm too...

    Bike is still under 1 year. I'm afraid to lose it for a while as I'm in Canada...
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    I sent in a 140mm 32 Float RL last week and was told that the service department had reached their goal of two-day turn around times on these warranty services. Over the past year I sent my 36 back 6 or 7 times (lost count) for creaking crowns and every time the turn around was less than one week. Maybe the 32s are taking longer?

    On the plus side, Fox said they have a tentative solution to the creaking issue which they'll be rolling out asap. Fingers crossed!

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    That is good news... what's the fix, loctite?

    I've also noticed shorter turn around each time

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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    I sent in a 140mm 32 Float RL last week and was told that the service department had reached their goal of two-day turn around times on these warranty services. Over the past year I sent my 36 back 6 or 7 times (lost count) for creaking crowns and every time the turn around was less than one week. Maybe the 32s are taking longer?

    On the plus side, Fox said they have a tentative solution to the creaking issue which they'll be rolling out asap. Fingers crossed!
    I am hoping the fix involves replacing my steerer/stanchions and not just dumping some loctite in there. I could of done that myself. My dream is they send me a new fork, but I would be happy with a quiet one and some new seals. I just dropped my Talas F29 in the mail today, I will let you guys know the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    I am hoping the fix involves replacing my steerer/stanchions and not just dumping some loctite in there. I could of done that myself. My dream is they send me a new fork, but I would be happy with a quiet one and some new seals. I just dropped my Talas F29 in the mail today, I will let you guys know the results.
    How much was shipping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    I am hoping the fix involves replacing my steerer/stanchions and not just dumping some loctite in there. I could of done that myself. My dream is they send me a new fork, but I would be happy with a quiet one and some new seals. I just dropped my Talas F29 in the mail today, I will let you guys know the results.
    At the very least they will replace your CSU (crown, stanchions, steer tube) since that is the standard procedure for this warranty fix. I had to send my 36 back four times before they eventually just gave me a new one. Maybe you'll get lucky though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aappling72 View Post
    WOW! Just noticed also that there is a slight space between the front lower and the end cap to my Hadley hub. I have to move the lower inward almost a mm to get it flush. Seems like maybe the tolerances are off causing some twisting and eventually leading to the creaking in the uppers.
    Same with the hope hub

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    What is the warranty time on replacing the CSU? One year or two?

    If it's within one year, I kinda don't want to lose the bike for 2 months because I live in Canada and I know the service is gonna take a long damn time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doeman View Post
    At the very least they will replace your CSU (crown, stanchions, steer tube) since that is the standard procedure for this warranty fix. I had to send my 36 back four times before they eventually just gave me a new one. Maybe you'll get lucky though.
    I got 2 scenarios going on with my fork. I sent an email last sunday that was just answered on thursday and stated they would fix my fork if I pay a 125-175 fee if I call and get an RMA. However before I got email reply, I called fox and got an RMA. The guy on the phone never mentioned a fee nor did he take my credit info, he just said send it in we will warranty it. They received my fork today. I have no idea if they are gonna charge me or not, but I think that potential is kinda crappy. I didn't buy a creaking fork, so why should I pay to fix one. I will let you guys know what happens before I pass full judgement about the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    I got 2 scenarios going on with my fork. I sent an email last sunday that was just answered on thursday and stated they would fix my fork if I pay a 125-175 fee if I call and get an RMA. However before I got email reply, I called fox and got an RMA. The guy on the phone never mentioned a fee nor did he take my credit info, he just said send it in we will warranty it. They received my fork today. I have no idea if they are gonna charge me or not, but I think that potential is kinda crappy. I didn't buy a creaking fork, so why should I pay to fix one. I will let you guys know what happens before I pass full judgement about the issue.
    They're gonna charge you if you the fork is more than 1 year old. I talked to the same person on the phone who also did not mention a fee, but when I did the online RMA, I was quoted the same amount to cover the cost of the rebuild. Its kinda a shady thing on their part, but at the same time I can't complain if they replace the uppers past the 1-year standard warranty. I'll be shipping my fork out tomorrow.
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    The saga continues...

    I sure hope Fox comes up with a fix for this problem soon. My 180 is going back after creaking for the last 11 months. Creaking started after about 5 rides. The new 160 is three months old and starting to creak. Two previous 36's did the same thing...

    My 2008 Van 36 with 1 1/8 steer tube and no Kashima coat lasted five years without a whimper. I guess this is the price we pay to have a stiff frame and fork with 1.5 head tubes and tapered steer tubes. Or maybe it is the Kashima coating?

    I did try the green penetrating thread locker and it worked for two rides. Used the Permatex brand. Strike that off as a solution.

    At this point it seems the only solution for the 180 is to go dual crown. I would like to see Fox release a dual crown 36 Float and Van with the tool free axle hardware on all 36's. Lighter and less expensive than a overkill 40.

    Another solution could be to go to a Marz 66? Does anyone else know if they are having similar issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    I sure hope Fox comes up with a fix for this problem soon. My 180 is going back after creaking for the last 11 months. Creaking started after about 5 rides. The new 160 is three months old and starting to creak. Two previous 36's did the same thing...

    My 2008 Van 36 with 1 1/8 steer tube and no Kashima coat lasted five years without a whimper. I guess this is the price we pay to have a stiff frame and fork with 1.5 head tubes and tapered steer tubes. Or maybe it is the Kashima coating?

    I did try the green penetrating thread locker and it worked for two rides. Used the Permatex brand. Strike that off as a solution.

    At this point it seems the only solution for the 180 is to go dual crown. I would like to see Fox release a dual crown 36 Float and Van with the tool free axle hardware on all 36's. Lighter and less expensive than a overkill 40.

    Another solution could be to go to a Marz 66? Does anyone else know if they are having similar issues?

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    Is your 160 a new 2012, or is it a 2012 service replacement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeerhillJ View Post
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    Is your 160 a new 2012, or is it a 2012 service replacement?
    The 160 is a new 2012. I could not pass up the option to get a black Float with the new bike frame. Maybe I should have tried another brand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    At this point it seems the only solution for the 180 is to go dual crown. I would like to see Fox release a dual crown 36 Float and Van with the tool free axle hardware on all 36's. Lighter and less expensive than a overkill 40.
    Yep, that's what I thought, too. Total overkill using the 40.

    Got my 180 Float in 2011. Started creaking, got sent in, got replaced uppers.
    This happened every three months, so after the fourth time they sent me a completely new fork, even the new model of the following year.
    Three months later. Started creaking again. Right now it's sent in again.

    Just bough a 170 Lyrik R2DH and gonna sell the Float.

    cheers.

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    Well, mine should be waiting for me when I get home from work . . . we'll see if this does the trick.

    Anyone know if the 29er forks have the same issue? I haven't gone back through the thread to check.
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    If I have a small creak sometimes when I slam on the brakes, but I haven't noticed it getting worse in a years time, is there any issue with just doing nothing? I only care if this is a safety issue or will develop so much play that the forks could break. I'd rather not pay $175 for something just for a small noise. Also I see several people have sent in their forks 5+ times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    The 160 is a new 2012. I could not pass up the option to get a black Float with the new bike frame. Maybe I should have tried another brand?
    Ok, wasn't sure if it was sent back yet. Haven't seen anyone comment on the 2012 service replacements yet and mine still solid/silent

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    Got my fork back. Total turn around was 5 business days from shipment out to back in my hands.

    Replaced the uppers and got a total rebuild, new seals, fresh fluid, new bushings and a Kashima upgrade. The only thing they didn't do was cut the steerer, but they did include a new starnut. Not a big deal.

    Lets see how long it lasts!
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    Nice! Did you pay for expedited service?

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    Nope. I basically called them on Monday and got the RA, packaged it up that night and dropped it off Tuesday morning. I did, however, send it express shipping from the USPS and since I'm also in CA, it was overnight for ~$20
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    I sent my fork in last week and received it back on this Monday, about a 5 day turnaround, and most of that was shipping. I will see how it rides tomorrow. No charges except for my shipping to Fox. They put new uppers and completely rebuilt the fork with new seals. So far, I am pretty much happy. My only complaint was that I requested with a note taped to fork to leave steerer an inch longer to better fit my new frame and they did not comply. Oh well, basically 20 bucks for a factory rebuild. Will update you guys on any creeks. I did notice the steer tubes seam serialized now. I don't remember my old fork having a number on it.

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    Time to send mine in for the 2nd time since Fox seems to be in the mood. Better call for an RA and get it rolling. Then, sell the rebuilt and buy a Tower Pro or something from RS.
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    Apparently my bike is ready after 1 1/2 week. Not so bad considering I live in a **** hole in Quebec, Canada. Hopefully they changed the whole CSU ass'y under warranty (still within 1 year) and let's hope for a new Kashima coating. Will report back after I grab the bike tonight.

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    I recently noticed a clicking noise in the stancions/crown/steerer area on my 3 months old X-Fusion HLR DLA. Any update on the loctite 290 fix (Tacubaya)? Has anyone tried sending their Vengeance back for warranty because of that?

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    Try dry Teflon spray instead.

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    Glad I found this post cause I just bought a used intense 5.5 and didnt hear the creak till I brought it home. I'd be pissed if I bought a new bike and had this problem. Come on already with the locktite try. Maybe it didnt work, so Im gonna try the penetrating lube for the time being. Also props to the guy who posted the video cause thats exactly how mine sounds.

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    Ok, I've tried the Dry teflon spray in both the stancions/crown and the steertube/crown interfaces and still get a clicking sound when rocking the front end of the bike while applying the front brake. I d'like to eliminate the headset theory(works component 1.5 angle reducer headset, known for being noise free). Is there a safe way to reproduced such movement of the fork while not installed on a bike?

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    Any reports on the new Fox 34 forks being plagued with this issue?
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