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    '14 fox 34 ctd Avalanche modification vs. Pike solo

    I've been on my new sb66 for a while now and am not totally dissapointed by the forks performance but do wonder how much better it could be.......
    Options are getting a new Pike fork or else have Avalanche install new internals.
    Does anyone have any experience/insight on these fork upgrades?
    Also, the Fox Float CTD shock is super linear and seems to be overwhelmed......
    My options with the shock are having Avalanche tune it, get a Float X or go with Cane Creeks DB Air or the new INline from Cane Creek?
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    ... Or send the fork and shock to Push.
    Though I've heard better things about Avalanche than Push recently even though I had the Fox Float R on my last bike Pushed and really liked it.

    I'm in exactly the same boat as you, 2014 SB66 with the Fox 34 CTD Evo front and Fox CTD rear. Both are functional but not great. I've been considering my options too and have decided to go with Avalanche for the fork and probably the shock too.
    At ~$400 the Avalanche cartridge is cheaper than a Pike and most likely better performing, especially given it's custom tuned. For the rear It's either Push, Avalanche or a CCDB. I think Avalanche will win for me.

    I've been really impressed with the SB66's pedaling, even in decent mode and out of the saddle it doesn't loose much if any power to the suspension.

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    I do not have the same fork as you, but I am very familiar with these upgrades. I have two rock shox lyrik forks with the Avy cartridge in them, and an Avy modified float CTD shock, and an Avy modified DHX-air shock. I have used Avalanche products for several years, as well as Pushed products.
    The Avy fork cartridge is, IMO, the best upgrade anyone can do for their fork, It will improve every measurable and non-measureable ( seat of the pants feel) characteristic of a fork. Avy even has two different upgrades for the new Pike fork as well, which tells me, the Pike is not perfect by any means, and if that leaves you wondering about that statement, just read the what, 40 page thread here in this forum about the Pike. That fork has issues. You can buy that expensive fork, and possibly have issues, or spend half as much money by buying the Avy cart, and you will have a much better fork than the Pike.
    Avalanche's rear shock work: awesome. Their application vastly improves the CTD function, and they correctly re-shim your main piston for your weight, riding style, and bike. The low speed rebound adjustment becomes effective, and the high speed performance of the shock will blow you away. Once again, you can spend lots of money on a float X, or less then half the money, and get a better shock than a stock float X.
    FWIW, I do not work for Avalanche, and I have paid full retail for all work and products they have sold me. I continue to buy their stuff because I believe it's the best suspension for me. Do a search here for avalanche to get more feedback.

    Again, with Avy, you will spend less than have the money that the mediocre products will cost, and get multiple times the performance. You will not be disappointed.
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    I am in the same situation. I have a Fox 34 Evo. Pike vs Avalanche upgrade. Pike at this point is only $100 more assuming $200 resale value for the Evo. Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum1 View Post
    I am in the same situation. I have a Fox 34 Evo. Pike vs Avalanche upgrade. Pike at this point is only $100 more assuming $200 resale value for the Evo. Anyone?
    Where can you get a Pike for $300?

    Have you checked what it would cost for Fox to upgrade your fork to a 2015 CTD Fit cartridge?

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    Hehe. I should have been more specific. Fox open bath kit is $427 vs buying the $750 Pike at Chain Reaction Cycles and selling the Fox for hopefully $200 yields around $100 difference when factoring in installation. That's interesting about the FIT cartridge. I'll have to look into that.

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    2015 FIT ctd cartridge is $215 from Fox for the cartridge itself. Doing the same to my 2014 34 EVO. Also considering the Air Cap mod from Push to be able to tweak the air spring rate but may not need it w new cartridge in.

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    Must be a popular irritation with the 34 EVO as I am in the same boat. Thinking I will go Avy from what I have read so far...

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    nice to know I'm not the only one out there with the 34 Evolution woes. Who knows if I could even get $200 for it!

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    Here is a follow up question for someone who knows a lot more than me. Craig from Avalanche said the Fox 34 CTD upgrade will improve performance better than the stock Pike as the open bath kit for the Fox is pretty much the same as the open bath kit for the Pike. Does it make a difference that the air spring side of the Fox will remain the same? I guess what I'm asking is there little performance to be gain or lost on the air spring side and most of the performance gains in forks is in the damping side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum1 View Post
    Here is a follow up question for someone who knows a lot more than me. Craig from Avalanche said the Fox 34 CTD upgrade will improve performance better than the stock Pike as the open bath kit for the Fox is pretty much the same as the open bath kit for the Pike. Does it make a difference that the air spring side of the Fox will remain the same? I guess what I'm asking is there little performance to be gain or lost on the air spring side and most of the performance gains in forks is in the damping side?
    Either the Push cap with volume spacers or simply adding additional Float Fluid will increase the ramp-up and mid-stroke support.

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    '14 fox 34 ctd Avalanche modification vs. Pike solo

    I've had many push products in the past but I prefer avy.

    I now have three Avy cartridges and I'm sending an almost new float CTD to Avy for tuning. One of the cartridges will go into a F34 and I'm sure it'll perform like the others

    Look at it this way, if you can have something custom made foe you, it will always perform better than a one size fit all solution.


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    My update - did the damper swap with my 2014 Fox Evo 34 275 fork. Put the 2015 FIT CTD damper in there with new seals and gold oil. No air cap mod needed. Fork has been transformed, simply awesome now. Well worth the $$$

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