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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh_SL2 View Post
    Do you know if anyone has the b-spec adapters in stock? I can't find them anywhere.
    I'm also looking for the b-type i-spec adapters, part number SM-SL78-B according to Shimano's website. Searching for that part # turns up only a few websites, all out of stock. May swing by my LBS this afternoon and see if they can order it for me.

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    You have to be sure to remove the piece of plastic between the covers of the shifter . If you don't do that the adapters are not going to going to fit .

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    Remove the pin plate . That way everything is going to fit the way suppose to .

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    I just installed type-B shifters (SL-M780B-I) onto type-B M785 brakes (BR-M785-B), and the shifters are loose when the mounting screw is tightened down. It is barely loose, but it is loose. Has anyone noticed this too, I have disassembled it several times, and I think it must have been by design.

    Can anyone confirm that this is ok?

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    I know they have a revised model out, but I don't know much about it. My version of i-specs are snug, no wiggle at all. I believe they are the older ones. Sorry can't help more.

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    This image helps illustrate the differences between the "conventional" and the "NEW" type-b style



    I found that I can put a washer between the Shifter and the Brake lever and it tightens up. However, it's not a clean fit and will probably damage the mount after many miles of use.

    I wish I had a way to ask Shimano about the loose fit and get an official answer if that is what is intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronrryan View Post
    I wish I had a way to ask Shimano about the loose fit and get an official answer if that is what is intended.
    Contact them, I'm sure someone will get back to you.

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    You need to call shimano because that's the 2014 lever and shifter . I have the 2013 models and the configuration is perfect . I don't know for what reason they changed for 2014 models .

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    I called in and I was very impressed that the first guy I talked to, knew exactly what I was talking about. I haven't had a support call like that in quite a while. Kudos to Shimano.

    Now for the content of the call. The guy told me that it is NOT supposed to be loose. Since I didnt buy the parts from a bike shop, I couldn't just get it replaced in the shop which is what they would normally recommend. But instead I would need to send it in to him if i wanted it fixed.

    I told him that I could put a stainless steel washer between the shifter and brake and it tighten's it up, and he said if it wasn't an issue for me, it would be fine and would NOT void my warranty.

    Here is an image of where I put the washer:


    Maybe one day I'll send it in, but for now, I'm just gunna put a washer in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonays View Post
    I'm also looking for the b-type i-spec adapters, part number SM-SL78-B according to Shimano's website. Searching for that part # turns up only a few websites, all out of stock. May swing by my LBS this afternoon and see if they can order it for me.

    Were you guys able to find a place to purchase from? I just got a new bl-m785 lever and need to mount my old shifters on it.

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    After using my bike for a while, the i-spec type b mount seems to have changed a little, to the point that I'm able to remove the washer, and it will tighten down properlynow. I'm guessing I just need to work the shifter back and forth a little to get it fully seated properly.

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    I found them on amazon this week but I haven't ordered yet. Shimano Xt I-Spec Brackets Sm-Sl78-B
    Amazon.com: Shimano Xt I-Spec Brackets Sm-Sl78-B: Sports & Outdoors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh_SL2 View Post
    I found them on amazon this week but I haven't ordered yet. Shimano Xt I-Spec Brackets Sm-Sl78-B
    Amazon.com: Shimano Xt I-Spec Brackets Sm-Sl78-B: Sports & Outdoors
    Perfect! Just placed an order. Thank you!

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    oh, that is really annoying, thanks guys I will now order the correct adapter and send back the wrong one. thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthMTB View Post
    That's good info, and together with the diagram from the Shimano manual you posted above, it looks like the new 'B' type shifters are backwards compatible to the old levers (with a special nut), but old non-B shifters won't fit the new 'B' type levers ? Confused yet !?!
    Yep, im confused. I had to read this thread 3 times. I think its mostly because there is so much talk of two ispec generations of levers, 2 generations of shifters, and now 2 generations of shifter adapters.

    Just wanted to highlight the above since thats the exact info I was looking for and didnt find it so obvious during my first read of the thread.
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    Reviving this thread.
    Ordered M785 brakes and an M780 shifter to mate up using i-Spec.
    Sadly when they have arrived the brakes are M785B which means they are not compatible.
    What do I need to make them work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Reviving this thread.
    Ordered M785 brakes and an M780 shifter to mate up using i-Spec.
    Sadly when they have arrived the brakes are M785B which means they are not compatible.
    What do I need to make them work?
    You need to either return the shifters for B spec units or return the brakes for a A spec units. Personally, I would go the A spec brake route as these will work with both A and B spec shifters. This might help down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Reviving this thread.
    Ordered M785 brakes and an M780 shifter to mate up using i-Spec.
    Sadly when they have arrived the brakes are M785B which means they are not compatible.
    What do I need to make them work?
    or buy a handlebar clamp style for the shifter, forgoing the ispec
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    Returniong them is not an option as they were purchased online.
    There is no adapter available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Returniong them is not an option as they were purchased online.
    There is no adapter available?
    I thought this whole thread was about the adapters..
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    YEs, but I mean an adapter to make the old style shifter work with the new style brake lever assembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    YEs, but I mean an adapter to make the old style shifter work with the new style brake lever assembly.
    Posts on the 2nd page indicated (at least the way I read it) that if you have new B levers and A shifters youd need the B adapters for the shifters to make them fit....
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    Ummm, yes I have read that too, but I am trying to understand whether there is an ability to just buy the new clamp assembly and then make my old shifter work with the new brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Ummm, yes I have read that too, but I am trying to understand whether there is an ability to just buy the new clamp assembly and then make my old shifter work with the new brake.
    the only options right now are to purchase the entire shimano adapter or purchase an aftermarket clamp to mount it back onto the handlebar KCNC I-Spec Shifter Clamps : Fairwheel Bikes, Cycling Boutique
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    Stupid Shimano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Ummm, yes I have read that too, but I am trying to understand whether there is an ability to just buy the new clamp assembly and then make my old shifter work with the new brake.
    You can buy an adapter for shifter and it will work with NEW brake lever. That's what I did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The RideR View Post
    You can buy an adapter for shifter and it will work with NEW brake lever. That's what I did.


    Amazon.com: Shimano Xt I-Spec Brackets Sm-Sl78-B: Sports & Outdoors
    Excellent, will look at that or else just by the bar mount bracket.

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    Love this setup!


    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedStarr View Post
    Here are a few more. I love this setup. Attachment 769704Attachment 769705
    This is exactly what I have in mind for my bike, love the XT shifters-XTR brakes setup! How could you match these? I haven't seen any other around...

    Thanks

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    Ok. I have a 2013 Giant Anthem X1 29'er with SLX shifters and I bought 2013 XT brakes to replace the Avid brakes. I am going to try to combine the shifters with the brake levers, hopefully de-cluttering my bars, but before I try it, has anybody here already done this or does anybody know for sure that it will work with these specific models?

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    Hi Guys.

    Has anyone modified the original I spec shifters to work with the B type brakes. Both my bikes have B type but a mate has just bought a new Cannondale with B type XT brakes and wants to use his existing Ispec (early type) XTR shifters. Comparing his to my B type, the only difference seems to be the extra hook which I think we could just cut off. The only issue I can see after that is sourcing the nut and pin used for the B type which he obviously does not have.

    Has anyone done this or looked into it? Does anyone know if the nut/pin are available seperately?

    Thanks.
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    I ordered XT M785 brakes, XT M780 shifters, and XT M780 iSpec shifter covers. Unfortunately, I was sent XT M785-B brakes. Can anyone tell me besides returning the brakes for the conventional M785 versions, would changing the iSpec covers to the B versions solve my issue? In other words, would the XT M780-B iSpec shifter covers mate with the conventional XT M780 shifters?

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    I called Shimano and spoke to tech support asking if the iSpec B covers would fit the conventional shifters. His response was to send all my componets back and have the dealer send back all conventional versions or all B versions. I said that was not my question and asked him again if the iSpec B covers would fit the conventional shifters, his response was "I don't know"...

    As TR posted "Stupid Shimano"!

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    Re: XT brakes with i-spec shifters

    Quote Originally Posted by sand wedge View Post
    I ordered XT M785 brakes, XT M780 shifters, and XT M780 iSpec shifter covers. Unfortunately, I was sent XT M785-B brakes. Can anyone tell me besides returning the brakes for the conventional M785 versions, would changing the iSpec covers to the B versions solve my issue? In other words, would the XT M780-B iSpec shifter covers mate with the conventional XT M780 shifters?
    Yes, they will. That's what I had to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The RideR View Post
    Yes, they will. That's what I had to do.

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    Thanks The RideR, at least it's the cheapest of the 3 components. I'll have to wait and see what CRC will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sand wedge View Post
    Thanks The RideR, at least it's the cheapest of the 3 components. I'll have to wait and see what CRC will do.
    Part of this issue is directly attributable to the fact that CRC has incorrectly listed the brake levers and not nominated them as "B".
    Exactly the same reason I got the wrong ones.

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    Wondering if anyone has had luck finding just the bolts to go from B type shifter to the older style brake levers.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Part of this issue is directly attributable to the fact that CRC has incorrectly listed the brake levers and not nominated them as "B".
    Exactly the same reason I got the wrong ones.
    Update, CRC sent me a new iSpec B adapters under warranty. Very impressed with their customer service and i see now they updated the listing for the brakes to include A or B.

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    Hi guys,
    i just mounted my new XT brake levers and ispecs shifters. It's all 2014 so it fits theoretically. However, although assembled as said in the manual (DM-SL0001), the shifter is a little bit loose. It is tilting around the bigger black bolt which connects shifter and brake lever. I think the fitting between the little horizontal screen and the black bolt is not tight enough. Anyone else having this issue?

    Thanks!

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    Looks like I have the same situation; I purchased the XT BL-M785-B brakes and a XTR SL-M980-A shifter....

    So from the research I've done, is it true that these won't pair properly using the i-spec?

    That would be completely f'd

    EDIT....yes, completely f'd...great job SHIMANO! Should have went with SRAM....Good info in this thread...thanks!
    From Amazon for the adapter
    Item Description

    • To convert standard XTR-980 and XT-780 shifter units to i-spec integration with corresponding brake levers
    • SH-53624 and SH-53625: are compatible with 2011-13 Shimano brake levers (M988/985/820/785/675/666/640/596) and are not compatible with 2014+ B-type brake levers
    • B-type i-spec model is compatible with 2014+ B-type Shimano brakes and can be used with 2011+ i-spec compatible Shimano brake levers with the special nut (included)
    • Sold as a set for left and right shift levers
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    You must be really bored if you have read this entire post.

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    My XT shifters mate with my XTR brakes, but the manuals must be for the previous iteration of i-spec, as the hardware and the way the two parts fit together looks nothing like what I have!

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    I-Spec I means integrated right? So it is basically single piece shifter/brake lever together.

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    I am frustrated with this issue. I ended up sending back the XTR shifter. Now I'm on the fence to either stick with Shimano or go with SRAM.

    If I do go with Shimano and have the XT BL-M785-B brakes what 10sp right shifter would I need....

    Is the SLX as smooth and crisp as the XT?
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    Is the SLX as smooth and crisp as the XT?
    I've got all SLX on one bike and all XT on the other. Most things I can't notice any difference, but the XT shifters are noticeable better - they just seem more positive, smoother, and require less effort. I remember reading that the XT uses more ball bearings versus nylon bushings in the SLX, so that could be the reason.

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    The slx brakes are EXACTLY the same as the xt brakes minus the free stroke knob or whatever its called. Largely considered a useless adjustment. As mentioned the xt shifters are better than slx . you need the xt b spec shifter

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAOS1 View Post
    I am frustrated with this issue. I ended up sending back the XTR shifter. Now I'm on the fence to either stick with Shimano or go with SRAM.

    If I do go with Shimano and have the XT BL-M785-B brakes what 10sp right shifter would I need....

    Is the SLX as smooth and crisp as the XT?
    I have all 3 shifters, each level feels considerably better. The SLX are a good basic shifter but have a long throw and as mentioned earlier, are not as precise as each level up. My original plan was to upgrade to the XT but found they come only with the shifter displays and to remove them, you would need to purchase the covers. Another dumb ass move from Shimano. I found an amazing deal on XTRs and have no regrets. One last stupid move from Shimano is that they removed the side to side adjustment in the current regular (non iSpec) XTR shifters.

    I still question what Shimano is thinking when features are removed or changed from the previous models...

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    anyone get the older problem solver mismatch adaptors (mounts sram shifter on shimano brakes) to work with the newer -b style brake lever? I'm guessing all I need is the bolt and hardware to mount the old adaptor to the newer brake lever?

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    Hi, I have the BR/BL-M785 XT brake set (no - B that I am aware of) and want to install an i-spec Saint shifter. I pulled the right lever off and it does not appear to have the cut out for the hook that is shown on the shifters in the Shimano tech docs. Has anyone else run into this? Brakes were purchased about a year ago. I could grind the hook off I would think as the nut would still hold it tightly together.

    Thanks,
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    I guess I'm stupid but I really can't figure out how to attach i-spec XT gear lever to XT brake lever?

    Both, XT brake levers and gear levers(BRM785 and SLM780) say in their boxes that they are b-spec but they doesn't seem to be compatible. Or at least I don't understand how. And it doesn't help that there no instructions included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaikkuFIN View Post
    I guess I'm stupid but I really can't figure out how to attach i-spec XT gear lever to XT brake lever?

    Both, XT brake levers and gear levers(BRM785 and SLM780) say in their boxes that they are b-spec but they doesn't seem to be compatible. Or at least I don't understand how. And it doesn't help that there no instructions included.
    When I get serious about putting my bike together, I'll look for the proper instructions, but I think I've figured out how to mate the XT and XTR parts, but both came with instructions for what I believe to be the previous version with the "hook" on them. The new ones are quite different in appearance an hardware (at least compared to the instructions!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaikkuFIN View Post
    I guess I'm stupid but I really can't figure out how to attach i-spec XT gear lever to XT brake lever?

    Both, XT brake levers and gear levers(BRM785 and SLM780) say in their boxes that they are b-spec but they doesn't seem to be compatible. Or at least I don't understand how. And it doesn't help that there no instructions included.
    Shimano has instructions for all their products on their website.....
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