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  1. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by apacherider
    Yep. Niner's are one of the most overpriced frames around. Vassago is a close second. Pretty run of the mill frames. $250 is about right for frames of that quality.
    Vassago's not nearly as pricey as niner. $479 for a Bandersnatch, while considerably more than I remember them selling for, still isn't bad. It's a nice frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erPilot
    hybrid not mtb 29er

    would only consider it for offroad dropbar projects (monstercross, touring etc, if the tyre clearance is there)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gthcarolina
    This 29er build kit shows up on the same page.

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail.htm...&hprice=739.98
    That's a decent package, but the wheels...yikes! Nearly 2700 g. Can't expect too light at that price for all of that stuff.
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    looks pretty nice

    Quote Originally Posted by 29erPilot
    Anyone know about these frames? Specs,geometry? Who makes them? Interesting looking frame for the money.


    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/188...tail-Frame.htm
    I shoulda got that instead of the motobecane fantom 29er. My bike would have been a pound and a half lighter, and probably wouldn't have shaken my teeth out as much.

    I really like the polished alu.

    Also, isn't the Air9 scandium?

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    That BeOne is a hybrid indeed. They called it an MTB but it's a fat tire hybrid. I would have gotten it if it had canti mounts. For a monstercrosser build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot
    I shoulda got that instead of the motobecane fantom 29er. My bike would have been a pound and a half lighter, and probably wouldn't have shaken my teeth out as much.
    Hmmmm...........not so much, most likely. This Sette is made from 7000 series Aluminum, which is stiffer and generally yeilds a stiffer ride. That, of course, may not apply here, but the chances are higher that it will ride stiff.

    I really like the polished alu.
    More than likely ball burnished. It is a cheaper method of making aluminum look polished.

    Also, isn't the Air9 scandium?
    Yes, but the comparison was to Niner's E.M.D.9, which is 7005 aluminum. The Sette frame is also 7005 Al.

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    It looks to my eye like the latest generation Voodoo Aizan - similar welds, braces and stays - even the derailleur hanger bolts are in the same location. They probably just carried the Aizan's 7005 rear triangle to the rest of the frame and gave it a bent downtube. All speculation of course, but it looks pretty similar to me.
    Last edited by southy; 01-04-2009 at 07:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southy
    It looks to my eye like the latest generation Voodoo Aizan - similar welds, braces and stays - even the derailleur hanger bolts are in the same location. They probably just carried the Aizan's 7005 rear triangle to the rest of the frame and gave it a bent downtube. All speculation of course, but it looks pretty similar to me.
    I thought it looked like a VooDoo as well, but it isn't identical, which would lead me to believe that it might be made in the same factory, but that is purely speculative. For all I know it could have been welded up anywhere by any factory.

    Doesn't really matter either.

    As an earlier poster stated, the questions need to be asked of Price Point, and then we may get the straight scoop. Until then, we're just a bunch of wankers that should be out riding.

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    I would love to be out riding.The only problem is I'm lacking my frame.I need to choose soon.My choices are

    On One $275
    Razzo $249
    KM $400ish
    Dambala $400ish

    I'm looking for a 24.5 TT 27.2 SP and the best fit for a 09 Reba set at 100mm I'm not changing it to 80 either.I'm going to running it 1x9I'm 240lbs.I would like to stay away from slotted and moving dropouts.I wanted to stay under 300.I've been scanning E-Bay and the Net.Recommendations welcome!

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    24.5" TT = look at the Astrix Rook, size L. You can order one from Universal Cycles using the VIP code and it'll be roughly $365ish.

    Works great with a 100mm fork too.
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    Universal doesn't have any.I do like this frame and would love to find one.

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    Some geometry info.......

    18 in eff tt 23.6. 20in 24.4in

    HA 71.5
    SA 74
    BB 68MM
    FORK 80 OR 100
    SEAT POST 27mm



    Numbers are direct from Price Point

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erPilot
    Universal doesn't have any.I do like this frame and would love to find one.
    Find an online retailer that does and see if they price-match. That's how I got my Karate Monkey for $50 cheaper.
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    Hard to read, but the info is all there. An email from Pricepoint today.

    Razzo 29er

    Size (Seat Tube Length)
    Small (16"/41cm)
    Medium (18"/46cm)
    Large (20"/51cm)
    X-Large (22"/56cm)

    Effective Top Tube Length
    23.2"/59cm
    23.6"/60cm
    24.4"/62cm
    25.1"/64cm

    Actual Top Tube Length
    57cm
    58cm
    60cm
    62cm

    Stand Over Height
    75.3cm
    78.7cm
    82.5cm
    86.3cm

    Head Tube Length
    80mm
    90mm
    110mm
    130mm

    Head Tube Angle
    71.5 degrees
    71.5 degrees
    71.5 degrees
    71.5 degrees

    Seat Tube Angle
    74 degrees
    74 degrees
    74 degrees
    74 degrees

    Wheel Base
    108.1cm
    1082cm
    110.2cm
    112.1cm

    Chainstay Length
    45cm
    45cm
    45cm
    45cm

    Bottom Bracket Height
    12.8cm
    12.8cm
    12.8cm
    12.8cm

    Bottom Bracket Width
    68mm
    68mm
    68mm
    68mm

    Bottom Bracket Thread
    English
    English
    English
    English

    Seat Post Diameter
    27.2mm
    27.2mm
    27.2mm
    27.2mm

    Seat Clamp Diameter
    31.8mm
    31.8mm
    31.8mm
    31.8mm

    Front Derailleur Clamp Diameter
    31.8mm
    31.8mm
    31.8mm
    31.8mm

    Maximum Tire Width
    2.5"
    2.5"
    2.5"
    2.5"

    Recommended Fork Travel
    80mm-100mm
    80mm-100mm
    80mm-100mm
    80mm-100mm

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    Thanks for the head-up guys.
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    New question here. bottom bracket height

    I hope the stated bottom bracket height is a type-o. 12.8cm would make it diffecult to pedal. maybe 12.8in?

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    I like that geometry - except the BB will have some pedals strikes.
    This looks like this years Zion frame (in that it is cheap). yum! Nice long top tubes.
    The price sure is nice. It would be even better if it was steel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Okay, it is definitely not a Niner! (courtesy pic for referance)

    I would venture to say that anybody with a design and the cash could get a Chinese manufacturing facility to make you as many of those Sette frames as you want. That's not far from the mark here, I'd wager. By the way, the Sette is shown sans rear derailluer hangar. I hope that is included at that bargain basement price.
    No hanger included.

    Email from PricePoint:
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    Hello,

    They do not come with a derailleur hanger.

    Thanks,

    Manu
    800 774 2376
    Price Point Mail Order Ltd.
    E-mail: manu@pricepoint.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbchess
    I like that geometry - except the BB will have some pedals strikes.
    This looks like this years Zion frame (in that it is cheap). yum! Nice long top tubes.
    The price sure is nice. It would be even better if it was steel!
    I thought they stopped making Zion frames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCowRider
    No hanger included.

    Email from PricePoint:
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    Hello,

    They do not come with a derailleur hanger.

    Thanks,

    Manu
    800 774 2376
    Price Point Mail Order Ltd.
    E-mail: manu@pricepoint.com
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    No derailleur hanger? I don't get it. I didn't think this was a singlespeed frame.

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    I'm thinking of going with a monkey. I think it's my safest bet.I loved my old one,I know it fits,it has many options and the company has been around for a few years. What happenes 2 years down the road when I snap the thing in half? What kind of warranty do they have? It's hard to trust frames at my weight.I haven't heard of to many cracked Monkey frames. It doesn't look like you can fit a 2.5 either looking at the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    No derailleur hanger? I don't get it. I didn't think this was a singlespeed frame.
    The jist I got from them was that this frame is nearly at cost and that the hangar can not be included at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erPilot
    ........ It doesn't look like you can fit a 2.5 either looking at the picture.
    And the 68mm bottom braket shell width would also suggest that clearances may be tight on this frame.

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    Help me understand this . What hanger do I need to buy? I have to buy a hanger to to get this frame going? Or do I just have to buy one as a replacement? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gthcarolina
    This 29er build kit shows up on the same page.

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail.htm...&hprice=739.98
    or buy this bike for about 200$ more... and get a reba SL, and avid juicy 7's ... but you'd prob need some other bits... but could sell the frame and recoupe some of your money...
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...liff29team.htm

    just a thought...
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