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    Sette frames. What's your thoughts?

    I can't imagine them being that bad. 7005 aluminum. The XC frame looks real similar to a Kona Dawg frame (TT & DT ). For the price(s) I wonder if it's worth it for someone who wanted to get into say DH riding to pic up a frame like the Relic and build from there and end up with DH bike that would cost what a normal big name brand frame would run.I am not asking for myself, just curious what the thoughts are.
    I also wonder if we get to wrapped up in name brand bikes when there are other nonamers out there that deserve just as much respect. I know Sette makes some good products here and there. Dont know much about their frames. Here's the link to what I am talking about: http://www.pricepoint.com/thumb.htm?...sort=styleName

    Thoughts?

    Also, really think about this. When buying a bike for trail riding or when buying parts. What makes you end up purchasing the bike/parts? Name brand? Reputation? For me name brand has alot to do with it. But I also think it goes along with reputation or else the name wouldn't be a good brand.

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    Man, you're gonna build up another ride? You just finished the 29er.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bgrafk
    Man, you're gonna build up another ride? You just finished the 29er.
    I need your cash flow
    No, not til next year. I am broke after the 29'r build. I would like to get a DH bike or a FS 29'r next year. Just curious about these frames for a cheap option. I also need to buy a new house. Did I mention i am unemployed?

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    I buy based on price, reputation and service that I can expect to recieve when I run into troubles- and not in that order. I usually buy from my LBS (Swiss American!) or used from a friend. Name brand only means something if the company builds a good product. I have tried some name brand things that I would not put on a Huffy- and some no name stuff I cannot get to break at all.
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    I think it would work...

    From the pics they don't look all that bad. Just a typical Taiwan made knock off. There are quite a few good bikes that have been and are now made in Taiwan. I think by now, the Taiwanese have frame building down. (I know that statement is un-American, I ride a Titus Switchblade, made in USA).

    For the price I think it's a great deal, especially with the 5 year warranty.

    I usually buy name brand componets, but I am a lable whore. What can I say?

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    i too end up being a label whore. I ride a trek liquid these days because I like the frame set up.

    A buddy of mine rides a Motobecane Fantom Elite, and he loves it. It was a full build with all XT, and rock shox (ughh in my opinion) front & rear. He Kicks my ass on every ride, and he punishes that bike, its still holding up great for $1200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiend
    (I know that statement is un-American, I ride a Titus Switchblade, made in USA).
    I say don't concern yourself with where the frame is made. We live in a global society. The whole "Buy American" movement is now a joke, and is even more so regarding products such as automobiles and bikes. If the bike is a good bike, who cares where it was made. Yes, support our country, but I don't think buying American actually does that anymore.

    Kona, the Sette frames are probably fairly good bikes. It is possible they are made by the same maker of some big name bike company, like Giant or something, with the Sette name slapped on. I think there have been some threads on Sette in the other forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirdir
    I say don't concern yourself with where the frame is made. We live in a global society. The whole "Buy American" movement is now a joke, and is even more so regarding products such as automobiles and bikes. If the bike is a good bike, who cares where it was made. Yes, support our country, but I don't think buying American actually does that anymore.
    I agree. The only, & Only reason I now lean towards bigger name bikes, is for the Service. I busted my last trek at the weld climbing a hill at usery (cats peak pass). I wasnt the original owner, but trek actually didnt care, and said the frame should not have broke where it did. they sent me a brand new frame.


    So I think as long as sette has a good waranty you are good to go. Double check the reviews, and see if you can find anyone who has owned one, or delt with their warranty dept.

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    Well, here's what I am thinking. I wouldn't mind getting a downhill bike. BUT, the problem is you have to catch shuttle rides (ok you don't HAVE to but it's better to) and I wouldn't mind doing that every now and then So, this I think would be a cheap option. Dirtluvraz and I were talking today as we were riding out at MMP and for me DH riding wouldn't be the majority of my rides but it would be nice to have the option to do so. That's why I think something like this would be good if you wanted a cheaper route. I do know that my next bike will be a 29"r FS probably by Vicious cycles or Niner, maybe Ventana (they just look to large when built up FS). Vicious is the top dog right now. Steel frame and the rear triangle is made by Titus. ANyway, I am rambling! These Sette frames just peaked my curiosity. Speaking of made in Tiawan.....I believe Kona has thier frames made out there too.
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    They're taiwanese catalog frames - meaning it's a stock frame, painted to order, made in a factory along with a bunch of other frames for other companies. Very very very common. Nothing wrong per-se with a catalog frame, Some of the Azonic dh bikes are catalog frames, and they ride great.

    for instance, on this page catalog page 3 appears to be the azonic steelhead.
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    I was looking at the HT frame for someone who wants to build up a cheap light race bike. That price is really hard to beat. And if you have a bunch of parts laying around, it would be even cheaper!

    And I disagree with you Dirdir. I think we need to buy more things made in America. Of course, there are also lots of stores I won't shop at and lots of things I won't purchase b/c of where it's made. But it's mostly stuff made in France. My Airborne is a Tiawan made frame and it's amazing. Light, strong, stiff and just smokes on the trail. It's the perfect endurance race bike. So I'd have no problem buying another Tiawan made frame. Although, the DEAN is the best riding bike I've ever owned...and it's made in America!!! (I know the Ti came from somewhere else, but it was manufactured here!)

    OK, so I got way off topic but the price is too hard to pass up for someone looking to build a new ride on the cheap.
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    Yeah but Crash...this is what I find is the problem. Say you buy an american frame. Well, there are bound to be parts on that bike that end up being made in another country. It's kinda like the protestor that stands out on the street with a sign saying "meat is murder" (great Smiths song by the way) and meanwhile they have a leather belt and shoes on. Now I agree that we need to try to buy american when we can and the product is good. But, somethings are just better foreign like in my opinion, vehicles. But I also will not buy anything made in France !!
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    Yea, not all of the parts can/will be made in America but I try to buy American made products when I can. So I don't see it as being hypocritical as much as understanding that not everything is made in the good ol' US of A. What would be hypociritcal would be me having French parts on there! And I'm glad to hear another non-French buying fella. That's always good news!!!
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    I refuse to buy anything made in Naru.
    This is just need to know information: Am i supposed to enjoy the irony or pity the sincerity?

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    No Need to Buy American

    Here is an interesting article by an intersting person on buying American.

    http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServ...m_buy_american
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirdir
    Here is an interesting article by an intersting person on buying American.

    http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServ...m_buy_american
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    This is just need to know information: Am i supposed to enjoy the irony or pity the sincerity?

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    Holy cow! Is the world coming to an end or did a liberal and a mighty righty agree on something? I think you're commie post is dead on Yuri!

    But enough with politics. So who's gonna be the first one to pick up a Sette frame and give it a review?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_FLMB
    Holy cow! Is the world coming to an end or did a liberal and a mighty righty agree on something? I think you're commie post is dead on Yuri!

    But enough with politics. So who's gonna be the first one to pick up a Sette frame and give it a review?
    Unless you and Yuri are being way over the top sarcastic, that guy, and the institute he is associated with (ARI), are about as anti-commie as it gets. They are all about a free market and capitalism. I think Binswanger is actually saying that giving preference to American products is like Communism and is anti-Capitalist. Check it out:

    http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServ...name=about_ari
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    me? scarcastic? no, never never never no
    This is just need to know information: Am i supposed to enjoy the irony or pity the sincerity?

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    Interesting articles Dirdir. Here is where I stand. I am not overly concerned with where a product is made. I do like to have a general idea but it isn't usually a deal-buster for me. Only when it is a large purchase. Now, when it comes to businesses. I like to support the smaller mom and pop type of stores such as Chinese food, Italian food, auto repair and such. I have family that was put out of business because of corporations like Walmart. But, at times Walmart has something I need. I go where the quality is and the deals are to be found. It could be in America or outside. But i will not willingly buy ANYTHING from France. I had purchased some Hutchinson tires, rode on them a few times, realized they were from France, took them off ! Anybody want them? Free!

    PS...If anyone is French here, no offence. I have French blood in me (sad to say). I just don't care for the leadership over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_FLMB

    But enough with politics. So who's gonna be the first one to pick up a Sette frame and give it a review?
    Crash, If I could get a DH bike put together for $1500.00 with a Sette frame I would probably pic one up. I am going to maybe try to within the next year. For now, I see a FS 29'r on the horizon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konapdlr
    Interesting articles Dirdir. Here is where I stand. I am not overly concerned with where a product is made. I do like to have a general idea but it isn't usually a deal-buster for me. Only when it is a large purchase. Now, when it comes to businesses. I like to support the smaller mom and pop type of stores such as Chinese food, Italian food, auto repair and such. I have family that was put out of business because of corporations like Walmart. But, at times Walmart has something I need. I go where the quality is and the deals are to be found. It could be in America or outside. But i will not willingly buy ANYTHING from France. I had purchased some Hutchinson tires, rode on them a few times, realized they were from France, took them off ! Anybody want them? Free!

    PS...If anyone is French here, no offence. I have French blood in me (sad to say). I just don't care for the leadership over there.
    That is quite a bit of info. First, your statement - "I like to support the smaller mom and pop type of stores such as Chinese food, Italian food, auto repair and such" made me laugh. I know what you are saying, I think it just came out sounding funny. Second, I hate Wal-Mart. Mostly because every single time I go in one, I get a headache and my stress levels increase. Now, as to the French, I won't go as far as you do, but I do think Hutchinson tires blow. I also know that after all of my extensive travels throughout much of Europe and the Mid-East, the one and only place that I traveled to that made me conclude that I did not like the people was Paris. Not France, just Paris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirdir
    That is quite a bit of info. First, your statement - "I like to support the smaller mom and pop type of stores such as Chinese food, Italian food, auto repair and such" made me laugh. I know what you are saying, I think it just came out sounding funny. Second, I hate Wal-Mart. Mostly because every single time I go in one, I get a headache and my stress levels increase. Now, as to the French, I won't go as far as you do, but I do think Hutchinson tires blow. I also know that after all of my extensive travels throughout much of Europe and the Mid-East, the one and only place that I traveled to that made me conclude that I did not like the people was Paris. Not France, just Paris.
    I should have said.....This has nothing to do with those articles (well, maybe a little bit) but.....I like to support lada, dada, dada....

    Does that take the humor out? My brain got cooked today out on the trail.
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    Think a little harder about it......

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirdir
    Here is an interesting article by an intersting person on buying American.

    http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServ...m_buy_american
    I followed the link and read the article. My initial reaction -- It's about what I would expect from someone who lives and works in the protected, idealistic academic world where tenure guarantees a secure job and you can smugly pass judgement on other people without having actually experienced what their lives are all about.

    I agree that Dr. Binswanger has some valid points, such as his assertion that "free markets do not depend upon lines drawn on a map" or some of his points about individualism vs. collectivism. However, he completely misses on several very fundamental and crucial aspects. For instance: A nation's wealth is ultimately determined by the products that it produces and how desireable and useful those products are to other people in the world. Any nation that does not fight to protect its ability to produce hard goods (and actively seek to expand that ability) is ultimately destined to lose its wealth and eventually its power and influence in the world. If your country is based upon a service economy, you find yourself becoming a servant to other nations in the world whose economy is based upon the production of useful and needed products. You no longer get to dictate policy and conditions to other countries -- instead they dictate their policy to YOU.

    Another critical point the the learned doctor appears to overlook: He implies that American companies are not competitive in a free market. This assumes that all players in that free market are playing by the same rules and have the same relative restrictions and advantages. Ideally, that would be wonderful. The hard truth is that it is simply not the case. For example, many Japanese markets are effectively closed to foreign products -- at least on any large scale. This is especially true for items such as automobiles and electronics. He rejects the notion that we live in a "dog-eat-dog world". He needs to spend a few years working in the world outside of academia to better appreciate just how competitive things really are.

    One last thought -- and I admit a subjective bias on this because I am employed by a U.S. car company: The perception that virtually all American-made goods are inferior to Japanese and German products is just not accurate any more -- at least as far as automobiles are concerned. How many people in this country know that Toyota recalled 2.2 Million vehicles last year? In the auto industry we use several metrics to measure the quality of our products and those of our competition. One important measurement is TGW/1000 (Things Gone Wrong per 1000 vehicles). These can be major or minor things gone wrong -- we still count them all. The difference in TGW between Toyota, Honda, Ford and GM is roughly 15-20 items (i.e. less than 0.2%). The difference between Ford and GM vs. German companies is even closer. In fact, we are significantly better than VW, on par with Audi, and very close to Mercedes. My point in all of this is that the perception regarding U.S. automobiles does not match the reality of the facts.

    Sorry about the long post -- I just felt that the alternative view needed to be voiced here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankinMich
    One last thought -- and I admit a subjective bias on this because I am employed by a U.S. car company: The perception that virtually all American-made goods are inferior to Japanese and German products is just not accurate any more -- at least as far as automobiles are concerned. How many people in this country know that Toyota recalled 2.2 Million vehicles last year? In the auto industry we use several metrics to measure the quality of our products and those of our competition. One important measurement is TGW/1000 (Things Gone Wrong per 1000 vehicles). These can be major or minor things gone wrong -- we still count them all. The difference in TGW between Toyota, Honda, Ford and GM is roughly 15-20 items (i.e. less than 0.2%). The difference between Ford and GM vs. German companies is even closer. In fact, we are significantly better than VW, on par with Audi, and very close to Mercedes. My point in all of this is that the perception regarding U.S. automobiles does not match the reality of the facts.

    Sorry about the long post -- I just felt that the alternative view needed to be voiced here.
    I'm sorry, but I am not going to buy a car based on TGW. Since I began owning cars, collectively, my wife and I have owned a total of 6 cars. Three American and three Japanese. IMO, the Japanese cars were better overall than the American ones in terms of just about everything that counts - reliability, bang for the buck, and so on.

    Regardless of which cars are better, and Dr. Binswagner's piece, I do not believe buying American achieves what is purports to do. You mention "perception". I think the "Buy American" movement is largely just that - "perception". It fits into a nice little package - "Buy American - Support Your Country". It is not that simple. American cars are made in Mexico. Japanese cars are made in America. Go figure. These cars use parts made from all over the place. At the end of the day, the profits these companies make go to some fat cats sitting in their towers. I really don't care if they are Japanese fat cats, American fat cats, or fat cats from Timbucktu.

    It simply is a global society. World economics cannot be reduced to a nice little jingo-istic concept that buying American means you are a better American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirdir
    I think the "Buy American" movement is largely just that - "perception". It fits into a nice little package - "Buy American - Support Your Country". .
    It sure helped to get Walmart into the megacorp they are now (in case you don't remember old Sam's original pitch). And now that they are where they are now, how much of the products they sell now Amercian made?

    p.s my saturn has been recalled more than my toyota
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    If you read my post carefully, you will note that no where in it do I suggest that anyone "buy American" simply because it is patriotic. I do not believe that someone should be expected to buy a product soley on the basis of where it is made. My point is that the difference in quality between American-made products and Japanese or European made products is miniscule. You summarily dismiss TGW as not being relevant when in fact it is EXACTLY what is important -- it is a metric to objectively quantify the quality of a vehicle. What I presented are facts, not opinion. You cite examples of personally owned American and Japanese cars. I have owned a couple dozen American made cars in my lifetime and I have never had a major issue with any of them. For every "horror story" that can be offered up about American automobiles, you can find a corresponding one about foreign made vehicles. Case in point -- my brother's coworker purchased a brand new Honda a couple months ago. Since then he has had it back to the dealership multiple times and has already had the transmission replaced. I imagine that you could cite a similar tale about an American made car.

    The real message that I am trying to convey is that the erosion of American manufacturing capability is a very serious problem that affects all of us, whether you recognize it or not. There is a reason that the Japanese government heavily subsidizes its industries. They realize that wealth and power flow from the production of saleable hard goods. The Japanese do not want their corporations to simply be competitive, they want them to totally dominate the global industry that they are in. You mention profits going to "fat cats" at the top of American companies. Do you honestly believe that there are no Japanese or German "fat cats" in their respective companies? Don't the profits gained by American manufacturing companies also support the livlihoods of several million "regular" people as well? These are the same people that help fund the incomes of people working in the banking, health care, educational, agricultural, retail sales, computer, biotechnology, entertainment and food industries to name a few. As you correctly pointed out in your last post, we are living in a global economy and we are all interconnected.

    I guess my bottom line message is: The idea that American-made products are inferior to similar foreign made products is an inaccurate over simplification. To suggest that Americans don't know how to make quality products ignores 200 years of history. The production of hard goods is what built this nation's wealth and power. Americans know how to make high quality products, and we do it every day.

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    Sorry to bring this old post back from the dead but ive been considering getting a new bike switiching from my azonic steelhead to a full sus. I was just wondering if anyone did end up buying the frame...it looks great for the price even though its not a big named bike company. I have a friend who always has the best bike of the kids i ride with and he says that it would would probably be crap but with a 5 year warranty it cannot be that bad..right? Idk i was considering a kona howler but the 100 dollar less price caught my eye and now im really thinking about going for it. if i do ill post a review of it she looks strong and that she could take some hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuelinjection23
    Sorry to bring this old post back from the dead but ive been considering getting a new bike switiching from my azonic steelhead to a full sus. I was just wondering if anyone did end up buying the frame...it looks great for the price even though its not a big named bike company. I have a friend who always has the best bike of the kids i ride with and he says that it would would probably be crap but with a 5 year warranty it cannot be that bad..right? Idk i was considering a kona howler but the 100 dollar less price caught my eye and now im really thinking about going for it. if i do ill post a review of it she looks strong and that she could take some hits.
    If it is only a $100 dollar difference, I would get the Kona. The Sette frame could even be made at the same plant as say Kona (in Tiawan) and be cheaper because it is Pricepoints "inhouse" brand. But, for the small price difference, I would stick with the Kona. Just my .02
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    im the other way on this. I say save the $100, and get nicer parts. I hate when I see people on a nice frame with crap parts.

    I have a friend with an intense 5.5 evp. Its a nice frame. But my buddy spent so much on the frame the parts seem to lack. Where I have a trek liquid (way cheaper frame), but I spent the rest of the money on all XT components.

    I have ridden the intense, 200 miles in a 24 hour event to be exact. I'd take my trek any day over the intense because the parts.

    To sum it up. Buy the nicest parts you can, while still getting a good frame. If saving the $100 would allow you to get XT over Deore, Save the $100. Nobody keeps frames verylong anyway. I tend to get a new frame every year and half (for some reason), but I have had the same nice rims for 4 years.

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    Anyone pony'd up and bought this frame yet?

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    The Ridick weighs in at a hefty 7.5lbs...

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    Mine's built, here's the specs:


    FOX Float 36 RC2 on the front/ DHX air 5.0 on the rear.

    Mavic Crossmax XL's with Specalized 2.0 tires

    XT Drivetrain (Hollowtech II)

    XT M755 Brakes 203 fr/rr

    Easton Monkey lite carbon 31.6 mid rise bar w/ODI ruffian grips

    Maverick Spedball post

    Shimano PD-M647 DX pedals

    Tipped the scales @ 31.8 lbs.

    All in all, I'm happy w/ it but there are some shortcomings.

    1st is the assembly quality. The build quality is great, clean welds, nice machine work ect.
    Mine tried to come apart on me after less than 50 miles. Not a huge issue unless you're on vacation 1k miles frome home. Cost nothing but time to fix, just stripped it down, cleaned everything up & reassembled it w/ a little locktite blue and it's been fine since. Take that step b4 you build it up & you should be fine.

    Next is the link between the shock & the rear subframe. It's 20m wide with teflon coated steel bushings riding on aluminum pivot pins. The bushings disintegrated after 20 miles, & the steel bushings scored the pins To pricepoints credit they sent me a new one, no questions, which promptly did the same thing.

    Problem is the bushings, they are only 3mm wide, & can't support the loads. I did a google search & found the same bushings, only 9mm wide, for $20.00. Problem seems to be solved.

    Would I do it again? Jury is still out on that one, I can't get the rear dialed like I want it, too much sag, & that slackens the head angle more than I like. The fact that I'm 6'0 230# probably has more to do with that than the design of the bike. I have the shock @ 300psig.

    I'm going to order heavier spring for the 4way & see if that will fix the problem.

    As I stated, I'm a large dude, & I've ridden the **** out of this thing for about 300 miles in the last few months, & once the kinks were worked out it's held up fine.

    For $459.00 to my door, even with the new busings & a few hours of my labor, still seems like a bargan.

    Keep you posted.

    Bob

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    Is sette like Ibex?? http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/IGN-FRM-Details.html
    I appreciate this post...it's very confusing how two frames can look so much alike yet are hundreds of dollars apart in price ( love the comment on the intense frames! )

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    Is sette like Ibex?? http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/IGN-FRM-Details.html
    I appreciate this post...it's very confusing how two frames can look so much alike yet are hundreds of dollars apart in price ( love the comment on the intense frames! )

    This is an old thread, but yes Ibex and Sette are made in the same factory in Taiwan along with Azonic and a bunch of other bikes.

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    Check out this months MB Action. There is a small write up on the new Sette Vex. According to the mag, "Sette has a reputation for building solid bikes at affordable prices." I have also been looking at there frames and want to build a niner. Where else can you get a niner frame for 2 hundo? Guess no one will know unless somebody pulls the trigger....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRA DOG
    Where else can you get a niner frame for 2 hundo? Guess no one will know unless somebody pulls the trigger....
    You can support a local company for a little more than $200 and get a much nicer bike in the process.

    http://www.ridesoul.com/dillingerg2.html


    Chad usually has closeout or minor blem frames he sells for around $250.

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    Does anyone reading this understand that 90% of bike frames are made in the same factory in TAIWAN!!!!!?????
    There is only a few bikes truley made in America, This is true even of italian bikes, MADE IN ASIA TOWN.
    Back to the SETTEs, I ride circles around this dudes Pitch, and Yeti, his bikes are a brand new joke. I love my Sette XC2, never a problem tough as nails. Im buying another model.

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    Back to the topic... My thought is why does the sette, and the drako frames come with a 2009 fox float rp2 shock... Maybe someone here cane explain it b/c pricepoint couldn't....

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    I have a Sette Razzo. I love it, one of the best Hard Tails I've ridden. I've been riding for 15 years now. The Razzo is every bit as good as any brand name bike I've owned, Trek, Cannondale, Intense, Felt, GT, Specialized.

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    I've owned my Razzo 1.0 since May and have been nothing but happy! Ride is smooth and handling spot on! Managed to get my first CAT2 XC win on one last week.

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    Chrome Sette

    I've seen one pic posted but would like to know where I can snag one. I know pricepoint is a distributor but have seen anything other than the black/blue/white color scheme. Any ideas?

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    [QUOTE=Konapdlr;1753000]I can't imagine them being that bad. 7005 aluminum. The XC frame looks real similar to a Kona Dawg frame (TT & DT ). For the price(s) I wonder if it's worth it for someone who wanted to get into say DH riding to pic up a frame like the Relic and build from there and end up with DH bike that would cost what a normal big name brand frame would run.I am not asking for myself, just curious what the thoughts are.
    I also wonder if we get to wrapped up in name brand bikes when there are other nonamers out there that deserve just as much respect. I know Sette makes some good products here and there. Dont know much about their frames. Here's the link to what I am talking about: at Price Point

    Thoughts? same frame with a poser bike brand label...same thing, except twice the price for the label. You want to pay some "american company" for something they outsource to where ever? not me.It burns me that specialized has most of their frames built by Giant and the greedy bastards pocket the profits,pollute the pimped out country as much as they want and pay the workers a pittance. your screwed either way if your an american.about the only frames made here are high end carbon fiber poop.

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    Yes, and Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Konapdlr View Post
    Thoughts?

    Also, really think about this. When buying a bike for trail riding or when buying parts. What makes you end up purchasing the bike/parts? Name brand? Reputation? For me name brand has alot to do with it. But I also think it goes along with reputation or else the name wouldn't be a good brand.
    Build quality and design is what I look for first. I've been a Pricepoint customer for a few years, very happy with the quality of the items I've ordered. A companies good reputation is important to me, when they treat customers right, they earn my business. Yes on reputation alone, I would consider a Sette frame or bike.

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    I built up and have been riding a Sette Razzo Carbon 29er and it built up perfectly and is my new favorite bike. For what you get: Very lightweight, internal cable routing, two water bottle cage capability, tapered headtube, 5 year warranty, and now reduced $100 to $699.99 it is by far one of the best bargain priced carbon frames on the planet!

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    If anyone is interested, I have a Small Razzo frame in Polished Alumin. I rode it for one season, realized it was too small for me so I stepped up to a Medium. I'm 5'10. Headset comes with it and is fine, the BB needs to be replaced however, the Cups and bearings are still in the frame. If interested let me know.

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