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    Sette Ace XC - Race Worthy?

    This actually looks as though it is a well made bike and the suspension layout is very similar to the Rocky Mountain Element. I have read a couple of reviews that have the rear shock as being questionable, but that could always be replaced if need be. I would ride the medium which only weighs 5.55 lbs, so the weight is really competitive to "higher end" frames like the Epic and Anthem. The HT angle is only 70 degrees, but that is still steeper than a Scalpel, plus I would probably run my 80mm Skareb to steepen things up a bit. I guess I would just like to know what you guys think. Buy a bigger name such as the Anthem or Epic or take a chance with the Sette. Truth be known, they are probably made at the same factory. Also, any shared experiences with this frame would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    I've been looking at this frame as well. Any thoughts, comments or input is appreciated.

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    well, the anthem is made in the "light metal facility". which specializes in ultra lightweight alloys and hydroforming. the sette is not made there The geometry on the anthem is hands down the most aggressive out there. I don't consider the epic a fast bike. it rides like a boat due to the ultra long rear end. buy the anthem.....you won't regret it.
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    I just ordered my Sette Ace on Friday and I can't wait. I've been hammering my hard tail down National Trail for a few months now and I had to break down and go full suspension. I was hesitant buying such a cheap frame, but I've read nothing but great reviews about this bike. I'm a "weight freak" so the 5.4 lb frame was definitely a high point. I get off just as much on the technical climbs as I do on the nasty decents so a good climber was a must. My components are really nice, so I'm hoping to put together a worthy XC racer. I'll post pictures when I put it together.

    Anyone in here had this frame for a while? Any reviews, good or bad, are very appreciated.
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    It looks to me to be almost identical to a titus racer x. but that is just me, i haven't looked that hard, but it is definatly my next bike, i own several sette products and the are all solid.
    Dont wait, procrastinate now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan034
    It looks to me to be almost identical to a titus racer x. but that is just me, i haven't looked that hard, but it is definatly my next bike, i own several sette products and the are all solid.
    The Racer X has a Horst link, which means that it has a pivot at the back of the chain stay, where as the Sette has a pivot at the back of the "seat stay". I have never ridden a bike with either so I can't say how one differs from the other. The Rocky Mountain Element's suspension is set up pretty much identical to the Sette though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Ark
    The Racer X has a Horst link, which means that it has a pivot at the back of the chain stay, where as the Sette has a pivot at the back of the "seat stay". I have never ridden a bike with either so I can't say how one differs from the other. The Rocky Mountain Element's suspension is set up pretty much identical to the Sette though.
    Even at that, the Element's suspension is much different. They are both "faux bar" bikes with the shock mount on the top tube, but that's about it.

    To the OP: There are an infinite number of posts on this board espousing how one frame is exactly the same as another. I've even done it myself, "gee, that house brand frame sure looks like a ____________" and many house brand frames do come out of the same factories as much better known frames. The problem with these statements lies much more in FS bikes than hardtails. With a hardtail, if it came from a decent factory, has the right geometry and tubing, you can pretty much bet that it will ride decently. FS bikes are a whole different beast. Moving a suspension pivot a few mm in either direction can drastically change a bikes ride, as evidenced by the plethora of single pivot bikes out there where some ride brilliantly and others are beasts. These minor changes often have to be made to avoid patent issues, creating dopplegangers that look the same but ride differently.

    Alright, now that is out of the way. The frame looks decent, but find some people that have time in the saddle before you lay down your cash.

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    Alright, now that is out of the way. The frame looks decent, but find some people that have time in the saddle before you lay down your cash
    Too late. Frame is on the way, but at $500.00, I can hardly go wrong. Even if I don't love the frame, I can get my money's worth out of it for a year or so and then buy something else. From the reviews I've read though, (only about ten or so.) I think I'm gonna be just fine. Worst comes to worst, I always have my reliable hardtail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodStash
    Too late. Frame is on the way, but at $500.00, I can hardly go wrong. Even if I don't love the frame, I can get my money's worth out of it for a year or so and then buy something else. From the reviews I've read though, (only about ten or so.) I think I'm gonna be just fine. Worst comes to worst, I always have my reliable hardtail...
    My post wasn't meant to be super pessimistic. It is quite likely that the frame will ride just fine.

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    I think that I am going to go with a "used" Anthem or Scalpel. The reason that I was looking at the Sette is because bike makers are ripping us new ones on full suspension frames. I know that they have R&D cost, but it is still just a bike frame. They add a couple of pivots and a shock compared to a hard tail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodStash
    Too late. Frame is on the way, but at $500.00, I can hardly go wrong. Even if I don't love the frame, I can get my money's worth out of it for a year or so and then buy something else. From the reviews I've read though, (only about ten or so.) I think I'm gonna be just fine. Worst comes to worst, I always have my reliable hardtail...
    Yo GoodStash. Did you get this frame yet? Just wondering because I am interested in it too for a parts swap from my hardtail. I am not a XC guy but my trailbike is a little too long-legged for the XC stuff. When I do the XC stuff, my hardtail kills my back so I understand the desire to do a swap on the cheap! When you get it, let us fellow Phoenicians know so we can check it out.
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    You GoodStash. Did you get this frame yet? Just wondering because I am interested in it too for a parts swap from my hardtail. I am not a XC guy but my trailbike is a little too long-legged for the XC stuff. When I do the XC stuff, my hardtail kills my back so I understand the desire to do a swap on the cheap! When you get it, let us fellow Phoenicians know so we can check it out.



    Yes, I got the frame on Wednesday. I'm going out of town today and will back on Sunday, probably have the bike built my Monday evening, Tuesday at the latest. And you can be sure that it will be ridden hard immediately. After a few rides, I'll post a mini review and pictures...
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    Well, after what seemed to be the longest week of my life, my bike is finally finished. Until this day, I’d never believed in “love at first sight”. I’ll give everyone a mini review for those who were interested in this frame. Disclaimer: I’ve only ridden this bike on two rides for a total of about 4 hours. I’m in no way, shape, or form an expert. I’ll update this thread as I find necessary.

    Here is a break down of the bike:
    Derailleur: SRAM X9 in the back, X7 up front, and X5 shifters
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7’s
    Handle bars: Race Face Next SL carbon 1.5” rise
    Headset: Race Face Dues XC
    Fork: Fox F-Series RLC100
    Crank set: Race Face Dues XC
    Pedals: Candy Bros. Smarties
    Seat post: Bontrager ACC carbon lite
    Saddle: WTB Silverado
    Shocks: Manitou SRL-Type
    Tires: Smoke/Dart Classic combo.
    Weight: 27.3 lbs.

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    This was the first FS bike I’ve since a ProFlex in 1992. I’d always thought that only a hard tail could climb the things I like to climb. Well, to my satisfaction, I was proven wrong…well, mostly. I went up a trail with some pretty technical climbs today and while I did very well for the most part, I found myself putting down my foot in areas that I’d climbed numerous times in the past. It almost felt like there was a delayed reaction when I needed to hammer it the hardest. Towards the end though, I realized that this was just how this bike felt and that if I kept going with steady motion, I would roll right over those tough spots. I’m anxious to go back to those other sections to see if I can climb them now that I’m more used to the feel. Although I’d felt like I was climbing a little sluggish, I’d actually gotten to the top faster than usual.

    I’m sure I don’t even need to mention how much more fun I had coming down. I found myself cruising down without even thinking about my brakes in sections where my bike used to bounce all over the place forcing me to take it easy. Instead of jerking down technical rocky areas, I almost felt like my bike was conforming to the trail like a snake. I was amazed at how smooth this ride felt. I had people telling me all the time that I would enjoy the benefits of a FS bike and I’m glad I found out. I’m rebuilding my hard tail and will definitely still take her out every once in a while, but I can strongly say that I have been converted over to the darkside, and I’m no longer a “hardcore Hardtailer”
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    That is pretty nice looking. Keep us updated on the climbing ability. Did you notice a lot of suspension bob in the rear when you hammered pretty hard?
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    That is pretty nice looking. Keep us updated on the climbing ability. Did you notice a lot of suspension bob in the rear when you hammered pretty hard?

    Thanks. I noticed it compared to a hard tail, but I wouldn't say I noticed "a lot". Unfortunately, I haven't riden a lot of FS frames to be able to compare. I did demo an Enduro which had a lot of bob compared to what I have, but I think it's supposed to. I'm stoked to take it out again and I'll definitely keep the thread updated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodStash
    Thanks. I noticed it compared to a hard tail, but I wouldn't say I noticed "a lot". Unfortunately, I haven't riden a lot of FS frames to be able to compare. I did demo an Enduro which had a lot of bob compared to what I have, but I think it's supposed to. I'm stoked to take it out again and I'll definitely keep the thread updated.

    Any updates on this? I am looking at getting this frame and doing a parts swap with my Stumpjumper HT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Snail
    Any updates on this? I am looking at getting this frame and doing a parts swap with my Stumpjumper HT.
    I'm also looking at this frame. Would love to hear any updates good or bad.

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    Will my Fox F80 RL fork work with this frame? I know it only has 80mm of travel, but I like the fork and just had it Pushed. Plus, I don't really have the $ to shell out for a new one. Will having a fork with only 80mm mess up the geometry?

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    Shoot, guys! I would've reposted earlier, but I haven't been on in a bit. I have nothing bad to say about this bike. I've taken this bike out an average of four times a week since I got it so at this point if I was going to dislike something, I would've found it by now. I'm able to climb things now that I was never able to climb before. I'm sure a lot of this has to do with experience/practice, but on big rocks where my back tire would always lose it's grip on my HT, I just roll right up and over on my Sette. I'm not sure what I had on it when I first posted, but I've put on Mallet M pedals, and a Sunline all-mountain stem. The bike is tits I usually lock out the shock on fire road climbs, but on technical single track, I really feel more comfortable with that extra kush. Downhill, I'm nailing sh*t that I'd never hit, I'm gliding off of big drops without even thinking twice. The comfort is obvious, but the control is amazing. I would recommend this frame in a heart beat...
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    just got this frame in yesturday.. waiting for all my other parts to come in.

    what i got so far:

    Sette Ace frame 18.5in
    mavic 717 disc wheelset
    Avid BB7
    Avid Ti speed dials
    Shimano XT shifter
    Shimano XT front and rear deraillers
    Truvativ Stylo crank
    Sette XLR Low Riser Handlebar
    Sette Edge Stem
    FSA Pig Headset
    Sette APX Alloy White Seatpost
    Sette Sonic Saddle

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodStash
    Here is a break down of the bike:
    Derailleur: SRAM X9 in the back, X7 up front, and X5 shifters
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7’s
    Handle bars: Race Face Next SL carbon 1.5” rise
    Headset: Race Face Dues XC
    Fork: Fox F-Series RLC100
    Crank set: Race Face Dues XC
    Pedals: Candy Bros. Smarties
    Seat post: Bontrager ACC carbon lite
    Saddle: WTB Silverado
    Shocks: Manitou SRL-Type
    Tires: Smoke/Dart Classic combo.
    Weight: 27.3 lbs.
    I'm surprised your bike isn't lighter. Maybe your wheelset is heavy and maybe those Panaracers aren't light but with a 5.5 lb frame, that fork, Juicy 7s and those carbon bits I would have thought this would come in around 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-XC-Justin
    I'm surprised your bike isn't lighter. Maybe your wheelset is heavy and maybe those Panaracers aren't light but with a 5.5 lb frame, that fork, Juicy 7s and those carbon bits I would have thought this would come in around 25.
    Not quite 25 lbs., but I did have it weighed on a proper scale last time I took it in and it weighed closer to 26.6. This could also be because I've upgraded the stem and changed the tires since my first weigh in. I'm definitely having the shock replaced in a couple of months. I want something more adjustable and I think I have a bad seal in this one because I noticed the sag increases after every ride and when I check the pressure it usually reads about 50 psi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevkizer
    just got this frame in yesturday.. waiting for all my other parts to come in.

    what i got so far:

    Sette Ace frame 18.5in
    mavic 717 disc wheelset
    Avid BB7
    Avid Ti speed dials
    Shimano XT shifter
    Shimano XT front and rear deraillers
    Truvativ Stylo crank
    Sette XLR Low Riser Handlebar
    Sette Edge Stem
    FSA Pig Headset
    Sette APX Alloy White Seatpost
    Sette Sonic Saddle

    Sounds sweet!! Make sure to post pictures after it's put together...
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    here's mine... hope you like my biuld.





    Frame: Sette Ace 16.5"
    Rear Shock: Manitou S-Type SRL air
    Fork: Fox 32 F100R
    Handlebar: Easton EC70 CNT XC
    Bar Ends: Ritchey WCS Short (cut)
    Brake Levers: Shimano XT BL-M775
    Shifters: SRAM X.9 Gripshift
    Stem: Ritchey WCS 4Axis
    Headset: Syncros FL
    Saddle: Selle San Marco Blaze Arrowhead
    Seatpost: Syncros Micro-Adjust Carbon
    Pedals: Shimano XT PD-M770
    Crankset/Bottom Bracket: Shimano XT FC-M760
    Chain: Shimano Ultegra CN-6600
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XTR FD-M970
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.0 20th Anniversary Edition
    Cassette: Shimano XT CS-M760-AQ
    Front Hub: Ringlé Disc Jockey
    Freewheel Hub: Ringlé Disc Jockey
    Spokes: DT Swiss Super Comp
    Rims: Syncros FLT DS23 Disc
    Tires: Syncros FLT2 2.0" (not shown)
    Disc Brakes: Shimano XT BR-M775
    Disc Rotors: Avid G2 Cleansweep 160mm

    thanks for viewing!!!

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    Sette Ace frame
    Sette XLR Low Riser Handlebar
    Sette Edge Stem
    Sette Superlight Foam Grips
    Sette APX Alloy White Seatpost
    Sette Sonic Saddle
    FSA Pig headset
    RockShox Revelation 426 fork
    Avid BB7 185mm brakes
    Avid Ti Speed Dials
    Shimano 08 XT Front and rear derailleurs
    Shimano XT shifters
    Truvativ Stylo Crank
    Shimano M540 pedals
    Mavic 717 wheelset
    Panaracer firexc tires

    Bike is finished this is just the only pic i've got of it.
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    Beautiful pics guys!!

    I'm working on getting myself a set of Azonic Outlaws this month. I'm going to go all white hubs, spokes, and rims. And a powder coat is also in the near future. We should all plan a trip to Moab for a "Sette Ace riders unite" epic ride!! That would make for an awesome picture...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodStash
    Beautiful pics guys!!

    I'm working on getting myself a set of Azonic Outlaws this month. I'm going to go all white hubs, spokes, and rims. And a powder coat is also in the near future. We should all plan a trip to Moab for a "Sette Ace riders unite" epic ride!! That would make for an awesome picture...
    that's a great idea GoodStash!
    the thing is... i'm based in Manila, Philippines!

    raced my rig last april in the terry larrazabal bike festival (subic, philippines) in the masters1 category. and it held great!

    for climbs, i tried not using the lockout and the result was good. the balanced 100mm travel of the fork & rear shock is really way okay!

    cheers!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymzbrm
    that's a great idea GoodStash!
    the thing is... i'm based in Manila, Philippines!

    Even better. I'm Filipino and have never been to the Philippines. Coincidentally, I've always wanted my first trip to the islands to be a "mountain biking vacation"...
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    Hi guys, I was wondering if you can give me any feedback on the rear shock. I have read some negative reviews regarding loss of pressure and I wanted to know if any of you have had that problem?

    I just got my Ace frame yesterday and I will be building it up today and tomorrow. The reports on the shock in the review section have me concerned though.

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    @dcb,

    after the race and some technical xc/trail runs, i haven't notice any problem with my rear shock. no loss of air or whatnots, whatsoever... maybe i'm lucky to receive a good & fine working rear shock.

    IMO, there can be lemon products... other known rear shock manufacturers experience this also...

    HTH

    btw! post photos of your build asap!

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    Wow, that looks like a carbon copy of a Racer-X. Sweet rides!
    Trek/Gary Fisher Superfly hardtail
    2017 Cannondale Scalpel SI 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcb
    Hi guys, I was wondering if you can give me any feedback on the rear shock. I have read some negative reviews regarding loss of pressure and I wanted to know if any of you have had that problem?

    I just got my Ace frame yesterday and I will be building it up today and tomorrow. The reports on the shock in the review section have me concerned though.
    Unfortunately, I have had issues with my rear shock. I lose pressure after about two rides. It's not a huge deal, though. I just pump it up before every other ride. Besides that, I love the bike. It holds it's own on the down hill without losing too much on the up. Even if you were to replace that shock with a Fox Float you would still be getting a kick-ass bike for a bargain deal.


    Jaymzbrm,
    If you have any pictures of you riding in the phillipines I would love to see what the terrain is like...
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    Hi there,

    I'm looking at getting one of these to build up for my son. Can anyone tell me what the length and stroke of the rear shock is? I have a spare RP23 from my Anthem, and may have a spare one from another bike in a different length.

    Thanks

    Jacques

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodStash
    Unfortunately, I have had issues with my rear shock. I lose pressure after about two rides. It's not a huge deal, though. I just pump it up before every other ride. Besides that, I love the bike. It holds it's own on the down hill without losing too much on the up. Even if you were to replace that shock with a Fox Float you would still be getting a kick-ass bike for a bargain deal.


    Jaymzbrm,
    If you have any pictures of you riding in the phillipines I would love to see what the terrain is like...
    That is a pretty big deal...sounds like the shock itself is on its way out. I would definately send it back to the manufacturer before it blows a seal on a ride and completely bottoms out possibly damaging the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownCivic
    Hi there,

    I'm looking at getting one of these to build up for my son. Can anyone tell me what the length and stroke of the rear shock is? I have a spare RP23 from my Anthem, and may have a spare one from another bike in a different length.

    Thanks

    Jacques
    From the Pricepoint website:

    Shock Length (e-to-e) 190mm
    Shock Stroke 50mm

    I just built mine up last weekend and I have 3 rides on it. I really like this frame. The jury is still out on the shock. Mine was still holding air the last time I checked but all the negative reports have me concerned. I wish I had an RP23 to slap on.

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    rear shock is 190mm eye to eye with 50mm stroke

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    Quote Originally Posted by office
    That is a pretty big deal...sounds like the shock itself is on its way out. I would definately send it back to the manufacturer before it blows a seal on a ride and completely bottoms out possibly damaging the frame.

    I feel ya, man. Definitely something I'm going to have replaced. Fortunately for my shock, (unfortunate for me) the weather here only allows me to ride once or twice a week. It's getting up to 114 today ...
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    it is not a racerx, the x is a horst link. on another note, I have the sette flite, it is a bit heavy but climbs great and decents really well too, especially in long travel mode. It is really really beefy though, and the zerostack headset design feels really stiff. i would recommend it for clyde use since it wont break the bank it it feels bombproof. if any has any q's about it send me a pm.

    Ps. the stock 550 lb spring is too heavy for anyone below 180 ish pound depending on your riding style and what you want out of the frame. and btw, the shock will feel like sh#t until it the spring breaks in, especially if you are light and want the heavy spring for big hit kinda sh#t
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    What's considered light weight for a FS race frame? Is 5.5lbs light for XC racing?
    What do the sponsored pros ride, what do their frames weigh.

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    Light enough. Average for a race frame. Diff not heavy tho. Meaning if you lose that day, its diff not because of the frames weight.

    The best run around 4.5lbs(Scale, Nitrous, Yeti, etc).
    For reference..
    My now 22.5lb std Spider M frame was 5.75lb(w/ seatpost clamp).

    My 02 M NRS with all ti hardware is 5.5lbs(w/ seatpost clamp).

    My 03 L NRS with ti hardware was 6.1lbs(booooo).
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    All these posts have me really excited to see what kind of product Sette is putting out. I've always had a good experience with Price Point's house-brand products like tools and lights and it looks like they are off to a great start making frames. How are you guys liking them? I'm considering one after reading the reviews and this thread.
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    I also had a Sette Flite. It is heavy, but really strong, very solid. I am impressed with the quiality for the price, will probably buy a sette ace to build a race bike.
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    I've been riding my Sette Ace for a couple of months now and I really like it. I was worried about the shock losing pressure after reading some of the posts on this thread, but I haven't had any problems with mine. In my opinion, it's a great bike and it's race worthy.
    I will post some pictures soon.

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    just a bit curious but does the sette ace come in two different models???...i see a flat top tube and in other pictures i see it sloped...i think this will be my next frame build cant beat the price!
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    it depends on the size the 16.5 is straight and the 18 and 20 are curved.
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    GoodStash and jaymzbrm,

    I see from your pics that you appear to have the Smaller 16.5 frame, but I was unable to find where you mention your Body Size .... ie Height / Weight / Inseam / Arms. How is the bike fitting you for your size? Too Long, Too, tall, Just right?

    I am 5' 10", 180 lbs with a 32" inseam and am considering that 16.5 size, but am really geared body wise to the 18.5 size. I am currently on a 17.5 Marin, BUT wanting a smaller bike. Yet do not want it to be TOO SMALL.

    My 17.5 Marin:
    BB ht is 13.25"
    actual Stand with fork at 120 mm is 31"
    Top Tube is 23"
    Running a 90 mm stem

    According to the specs the Sette Ace 16.5 is:
    with a BB ht of 13"
    and stand over of 30"
    16.5 Sette Ace Top tube is 22.6"
    Would use the same stem .... 90 mm

    kevkizer, What size is your fame to body size?

    How is it riding for you? How do you like the Frame? Any shock problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1
    GoodStash and jaymzbrm,

    I see from your pics that you appear to have the Smaller 16.5 frame, but I was unable to find where you mention your Body Size .... ie Height / Weight / Inseam / Arms. How is the bike fitting you for your size? Too Long, Too, tall, Just right?

    I am 5' 10", 180 lbs with a 32" inseam and am considering that 16.5 size, but am really geared body wise to the 18.5 size. I am currently on a 17.5 Marin, BUT wanting a smaller bike. Yet do not want it to be TOO SMALL.

    My 17.5 Marin:
    BB ht is 13.25"
    actual Stand with fork at 120 mm is 31"
    Top Tube is 23"
    Running a 90 mm stem

    According to the specs the Sette Ace 16.5 is:
    with a BB ht of 13"
    and stand over of 30"
    16.5 Sette Ace Top tube is 22.6"
    Would use the same stem .... 90 mm

    kevkizer, What size is your fame to body size?

    How is it riding for you? How do you like the Frame? Any shock problems?

    Mike
    Yes, it's a 16.5" frame. I have a 100mm stem... I stand 1.65m (5'5")... i hover around 65kgs (143lbs.)... i forgot about my inseam measurement...

    the frame is sized as a small.. so, i got it... bearing in mind that i have purchased it online, the fit would not be like tailor-fitted compared to what i could have bought in a local bike shop... the top tube length is fine for me... bu the standover height is at max.

    for regular trail rides, the frame performs well. i have raced it for just one time, and it held up fine... considering i didn't use the lockout feature on uphills - that says a lot about the suspension design/system of the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodStash
    <a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c280/jgsanti/?action=view&current=Picture049.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c280/jgsanti/Picture049.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    anyone know what version of the raceface next sl riser bars that is? 31.8 and 1.5" rise?
    and what stem is being used? it's looking so nice together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-XC-Justin
    I'm surprised your bike isn't lighter. Maybe your wheelset is heavy and maybe those Panaracers aren't light but with a 5.5 lb frame, that fork, Juicy 7s and those carbon bits I would have thought this would come in around 25.
    ......think they would be lighter as Duckman mentioned, 25, maybe less. I've been looking at these frames too. Hopeful a 16" with a Fox fork/XTR and Mavic Xmax etc. will be . Wondering if these are more trail bike then XC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    ......Wondering if these are more trail bike then XC?
    Forgive my ignorance, but how do you rate the diff between Trail and XC? What Characteristics would be diff in the two?

    Also, Your thinking of getting a 16"? I am thinking of that too. What body size are you? I am still undecided. If you get a 16" would like to hear what you think of it.

    I got an email late last month from Price Point that the new ones are due in Sept .... and they will have a different shock. Did not say what, but I am sure there will be a decent up price (like $600 +) for the new '09s with a new shock. But if you do not like or are worried about the current shock offering, maybe wait a few weeks and see what comes out.

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    As in the OP.......

    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1
    Forgive my ignorance, but how do you rate the diff between Trail and XC? What Characteristics would be diff in the two?
    ....the question was "race worthy" or not, thus my comment. If you look at most other posts on builds for this frame (specially the 2 bike builds shown in the PP link on this frame) usually they've been set up with more fork travel/components a little "beefier" then seen on a 100mm "XC" race setup that's all.

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    Just got an email from PP and the new frames will have a Rock Shox shock... so maybe the price will be similar. Hope so....

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    Did they give any indication of which RS shock.

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    No unfortunately. I will email back and ask. Here is all they said in response to "will you have the 18.5's back in stock"
    "We will have them with a rock Shox in about a month or so back in stock"

    If I get more info I will post it.

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    Hey kinda late, but I recently built a sette ace. Its the 18.5" frame, I race xc, had my first race last sunday.

    I love the bike, for the price you really cant go wrong. I'm 5'8-5'9 150lbs myabe a little less. And it fits me fine.

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    Bump! Another take on this.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Ark
    I guess I would just like to know what you guys think. Buy a bigger name such as the Anthem or Epic or take a chance with the Sette
    .....How race worthy will you be on this bike?? In other words, what level are you racing now, and what are your expectations with a new bike?? At this price I'd be willing to take a chance on the rear shock issues. Heck, scroll thru Specialized forum on the late model Epics and their brain problems at 3 times the price, sorry Spec, just sayin.

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    Hey does anybody know when PP will have the ace back in stock? Ive seen that its not on there website anymore which angers me

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    Saw the Ace is back in stock at PP just has a different shock. I have not had any touoble with the Manitou on mine though. Just ran my first race and the bike was great, crtainly not the reason I did not do well.

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    Hey everyone, just finished my Sette Ace build... thought i would share a few photos.. and hopefully a good review once it stops raining! But so far it looks and feels awesome..
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    That looks great!! What is the travel on the Relic?? Looking forward to hearing some ride results...
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    Looks great. How stiff does it feel in the rear end?
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    That thing is drop dead gorgeous. Ride report .... ride report

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    Thanks guys.. Unfortunately i dont have much ride time do to the weather, and working 10hr days for the next 2 weeks! But from what i have ridden.. Shes a great climber! Nice and stiff when you need her to be and plush where it counts.. Could use a tad more rebound in the rear. As soon as i can get a full on ride.. will be sure to post a full review.. and some trail pics!
    but for anyone wonder if its worth the $499 price tag.... VERY MUCH SO

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    Since this is the new 2009 model of the frame, Is that the 16.5 or the 18.5. I seem to remember that last years 18.5's TT and Down Tube did not come together at the Head Tube as yours does in the pic ..... but last years 16.5 did not have the bent TT as pictured.

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    Is that the Cane Creek S-8 headset? How do you like it so far?

    TIA

    Quote Originally Posted by admo619
    Hey everyone, just finished my Sette Ace build... thought i would share a few photos.. and hopefully a good review once it stops raining! But so far it looks and feels awesome..
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    My Build

    Decided to pull the trigger on this frame. Just finished building her up.






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    Looks great!! Any idea what it weighs in at? I was looking at a similar fork and like the red highlights.
    The bike stand is nice too :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisherking
    Looks great!! Any idea what it weighs in at? I was looking at a similar fork and like the red highlights.
    The bike stand is nice too :-)
    Thanks, Mike! I put it up on the scale at my LBS yesterday, and it read 26.2 pounds. The wheelset is a bit heavy, though. With my race wheelset on the weight should drop by a little over a pound. The frame weighed right at 5.5 lbs (with shock and seatpost clamp).

    BTW, I took it out for its maiden voyage today, and I'm very impressed. I didn't even bother locking out the shock on the climbs; it felt liked it climbed well enough without it w/ no noticble bob. And unlike a previous poster, I wasn't left wanting more rebound.

    Can't wait to ride again!

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    awesome build bholwell, she looks great! No doubt your enjoying what she can do..
    curious to know what your rear psi is set at.. with your weight.
    I'm about 180 running 90psi.. seems to work well for me and the trails i ride.. The lockout is great,, really affective.. and not just some lever to flip around.. actually has some change to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admo619
    awesome build bholwell, she looks great! No doubt your enjoying what she can do..
    curious to know what your rear psi is set at.. with your weight.
    I'm about 180 running 90psi.. seems to work well for me and the trails i ride.. The lockout is great,, really affective.. and not just some lever to flip around.. actually has some change to it.
    Thanks! If you have the same shock (Monarch 3.3), I wonder if the gauge on your shock pump is off. Or perhaps mine is! I have my shock pressurized to 160 psi, and that gives me about 13% sag (I weigh ~165 full kit). I wouldn't worry about the pressure, just shoot for 10-15% sag and you should be good.

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    lol... so i just checked again after reading your reply.. and yeah its set at about 95psi with a tad over 15% sag.. i like my ride to be a little on the plush side when its fully open, but mostly ride with it straight down the middle, depending on terrain conditions. ( 3.3 Monarch, Sette Ace ) with Sette shock pump Still.. thats a huge difference in pressure.. considering i have 15lbs over you..

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    bholwell, any idea what your Ace Build Weights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bholwell

    Everyone so far has stated good things about the performance of this bike and I can't believe you get such an efficient bike for 500 bucks. For a "value" frame, this bike is exceptionally good looking. I think I am going to definitely buy one this weekend and swap out my hardtail frame. I was looking at a used Santa Cruz Superlight on Ebay and I don't think they look as nice all built up. Furthermore, the Ace actually weighs a tad less according to the published numbers.

    Damn sexy for sure.

    Before I pull the trigger on this though, can someone tell me how it handles? I notice that it has a 70 degree head tube angle which probably makes for good descending, but how does she turn?
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    Very sharp looking. I would get those brake lines cut down to clean it up a bit, but other than that it looks really nice.

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    I recently got my Ace built up and have a couple questions. I love the way it rides but am slightly concerned with the rear shock. I see a couple people who are running sub 100psi in their shocks and some running 150+psi. Does anyone else find this strange? I am 200lbs and when I have 170psi in the rear shock it is quite stiff. I like the way if "feels" closer to 110psi but don't want to risk damaging it.

    Any thoughts?

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    Sorry to change the subject but will the X7 FD bottom clamp fit on the ace? I noticed that the pivot for the rear triangle was located above the BB so I didn't know if this required the use of a Top clam Derailleur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaSiL
    I recently got my Ace built up and have a couple questions. I love the way it rides but am slightly concerned with the rear shock. I see a couple people who are running sub 100psi in their shocks and some running 150+psi. Does anyone else find this strange? I am 200lbs and when I have 170psi in the rear shock it is quite stiff. I like the way if "feels" closer to 110psi but don't want to risk damaging it.

    Any thoughts?
    You may want to post this with the shock name and type in the shocks forum. Surely someone would answer.

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    Is the Sette Ace rear triangle stiff enough, even without the welded yoke between the seat and chainstays, like the Intense and Santa Cruz?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaSiL
    I recently got my Ace built up and have a couple questions. I love the way it rides but am slightly concerned with the rear shock. I see a couple people who are running sub 100psi in their shocks and some running 150+psi. Does anyone else find this strange? I am 200lbs and when I have 170psi in the rear shock it is quite stiff. I like the way if "feels" closer to 110psi but don't want to risk damaging it.

    Any thoughts?
    It depends on which shock you have. The new RS Monarchs can handle up to 275 psi according to the RS website. The old manitou s type is probably similar. Don't keep it too low either because if you are constantly bottomming it out, that is not good. Maybe somewhere in the middle of 110 and 170 is a good compromise?
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    I thought I wrote what shock I was running in my post but it appears that isn't the case. It's the RS Monarch 3.3. I think I may have a bad one though, I'm not sure, but after 2 days or so it loses around 50psi. I am going to keep an eye on it and see what it does, I am thinking the cold weather might have something to do with it.

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    oh man.. that would suck if that's the case.. Are you using a valve cap?

    As far as psi goes.. i would say as long as your running the recommended 15 - 20% sag you should be fine. I've had no problems running 100psi 180lb rider... ( RS Monarch 3.3 )
    IF you get the chance. .post a few pics!

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    So I have been reading this forum and the feedback about the ace seems to be overwhelmingly positive. So I'm about to leave the realm of the hardtail and try my hand at FS! I'm super excitied about me first frame buildup and I think I have all the components ill need. Does anybody have any advice for a first time bike builder that they would like to share? I just want to know if there were any hiccups while building this frame?

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    Awesome Blackstang01!! Only thing i can say is make sure everything is well lubed.. I had my headset and crank put on at my lbs..$10 other then that its cake... ohh.. i made the mistake of making my cables a little to short.. and with the rear travel.. the cables started rubbing away at the paint...
    I think once you go fs you wont look back .. especially with a frame as light and stiff as the Ace whens its all done.. lets see some pics!

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    yeah I was already planning on having the LBS install the BB and headset, and I did notice the need for longer cables for the rear brake and derailleur. The bike and parts should be in early next week so ill most def post some pics as soon as I get her complete!

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    Wow...just stumbled across the post and am pretty impressed with all I've read about this frame. I do have a question about sizing. I'm 5'10" with 33" inseam. Every mtn bike I've ridden I've felt much more comfortable on a Large then a Medium. For most brands, M = 17.5 or 18" and L = 19 or 19.5" So...with the Sette would I be a 18.5" or 20.5"?

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    Well in regards to the stand over height I'm 6'1'' with 34.5" inseam so I bought the 20.5" frame with 32" of stand over. with you inseam clearance might be an issue. Get the 18.5".....your hardy boys will thank you lol

    If the smaller frame feels cramped......longer stem, flat bars and seat position will help

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    OK, i think about to pull the trigger on one as well. The sizing chart online is a bit confusing and doesnt really realte to the ace frame. I am 5'6" and a 31 inch inseam, small?

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    It says on PP that the small has 30" of standover so that would probaly be your best bet. How long is the top tube on your current bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstang01
    It says on PP that the small has 30" of standover so that would probaly be your best bet. How long is the top tube on your current bike?
    I am not sure. I will have to go home and measure it. I cant find the specs on line. It is a 17" Zion.

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    Decals?

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    Very sharp looking. I would get those brake lines cut down to clean it up a bit, but other than that it looks really nice.
    To any Sette owners - Are the decals removable on this frame?

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    No they are not removable, they are underneath the clear coat.

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    ok guys. After going over this thread now 4 times, i am serioulsy considering buying one of these frames. It is just too good to pass up a deal like this

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    Well after finally getting in the frame and spending 2 days building her up the ace is complete! The overall build went together well with no problems what so ever. Its currently flooding here in the southeast so ill post up another ride report for all you guys thinking about purchasing along with pics. here's my parts breakdown.

    Derailleur: SRAM X7 in the back,up front, and X7 shifters
    Brakes: Avid mechanical Disc
    Handle bars: Easton Monkey lite Composite mid rise
    Headset: Cane Creak S-3
    Fork: 2009 RS Tora 318 soloair
    Crank set: Race Face Evolve XC
    Pedals: Shimano 520's
    Seat post: Bontrager carbon
    Saddle: Bontrager sport
    Shocks: RS Monach 3.3
    Tires: Maxxis Crossmarks 2.1

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    What does it weigh?

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    These cranks might look cool on the ACE. But I have never heard of them:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...m=220324623021

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    I haven't weighed it yet, don't have a scale. It will most likely be next week before I can weight it along with pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1
    These cranks might look cool on the ACE. But I have never heard of them:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...m=220324623021
    Those look pretty neat, but they weigh quite a bit. I would rather go with XT if you can afford it. What a weird brand too! I wonder ifit is like an overseas brand only.
    Getting a dropper post is like getting a bidet. I didn't know I needed one until I get one and boy, does my ass thank me.

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