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    Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    The specs say that the max rear tire clearance is 2.3"
    Saw that. But you know how tires vary, one brands 2.3 is same as anothers 2.1 etc...
    Thinking that the new WTB WeirWolf low tread 2.5 I just got may sneak in there.
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    It's always a crapshoot on tire sizes.

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    Yep kinda like life.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    It's always a crapshoot on tire sizes.
    How is the Ace build working out?
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    The Ace is working out great for me. I'm not a serious MTBer, so I'm not to snobby about name brands. I just need some decent stuff for riding when I get a chance. This Sette is perfect for me. I have only had a chance to get it in the dirt a few times, but it is a nice ride so far. I ride it around my neighborhood with my daughter and dogs almost every other day. The shock is holding up fine, which was a concern of mine. I had heard some people had problems with the Monarch 3.3. I have lost no air pressure yet. My only complaint is that I can't ride it more often off road. I need to work less and ride more.

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    The Ace arrived today and I immediately put the bike together with a mix of parts off my Stumpjumper FSRxc and some new parts I ordered with the frame.



    Pedaled around my street and the bike feels great, tomorrow I'll ride it for 'real'.

    Shifters: Shimano LX
    Brake Levers: Avid Speed Dial 5's
    Brakes: Avid BB7's
    Front Derailluer: SRAM X.9
    Rear Derailluer: Shimano XT
    Crankset: Race Face Evolve XC x-type
    Wheels/Hubs: Sun Singletrack / Shimano XT
    Seat: WTB Pure V

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    Thanks to all previous posters on this thread. Between the pics and feedback, I felt very comfortable pulling the trigger on a Sette Ace for my first full suspension ride.

    I've only managed a couple rides, 26 miles total, mostly fire roads and some singletrack with very very few moderately technical sections. For heavier riders out there, (I weigh in at 235lbs) expect pedal bob when you're standing. With a 100mm it easily manages tight switchbacks. As others have reported, this bike is a sure footed climber even when the pitch gets real steep >15%. I haven't had to use the lockout yet, I feel like I can climb better with the suspension active. Compared to my hardtail, it rocks going downhills. It's a very solid ride, I don't feel any slop from the pivots. I haven't notice any brake jack. I feel very confident on descents. So far, this bike is a noticeable improvement over my hardtail.

    Price, more than anything defined my build. Bits came from several online stores: Price Point, obviously, and also Greenfish, Jenson, BWW; and a few bits stolen from my 12 year old steel hardtail. I managed to keep price under 2K. I was hoping for 25 lbs, it ended up at 26.7 lbs which I can live with. (But I'm going to check calibration on my cheapo fish scale.) During the build, I did have some trouble with paint on the BB threads, so I had my LBS chase the threads. I did hear creaking noises on my 2nd ride, but I couldn't figure out where it was coming from, and the noise went away during the ride. I do get quite a bit of chain slap on fast rocky descents, so I highly recommend a chain stay protector. Anyway, build specs are:

    Sette Ace 18.5 in
    Manitou Minute MRD Absolute 100mm
    Stylo 3.3 GXP Cranks
    SRAM X.9 Twist Shift
    SRAM X.9 Rear Der
    SRAM Cassette & Chain
    Shimano XT Front der
    Avid Elixir R Disc
    Mavic 719 rims w/ XT hubs
    WTB Raijin Tires
    Titec Hellbent Prolite Riser
    Titec Pluto Carbon Stem
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    Shock probs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    The shock is holding up fine, which was a concern of mine. I had heard some people had problems with the Monarch 3.3. I have lost no air pressure yet.
    I know they had trouble with the previous 2.1 shock, and changed to the 3.3 (for frame only anyway-I think the complete bikes still comes with the 2.1).

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    I need to work less and ride more.
    Mee too! Let me know when you have this figured out and pass on the info.....
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    I'm still loving my Sette Ace. No complaints whatsoever with the shock (Monarch 3.3), and the pivots are still perfect. IMO, this is a very capable XC racer due to the light weight and efficient suspension design.

    Here's a pic I just took. I'll try to take some more once I replace the handlebar and cut down my hydro lines.

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    Nice build

    Quote Originally Posted by bholwell
    Here's a pic I just took. I'll try to take some more once I replace the handlebar and cut down my hydro lines.
    Do you mind taking one of the tire clearence between the arch brace of seat & chain stays? And what type/size tire you are running?

    Thx in advance-JMac
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    Im running Maxxis Mobster's 2.1 on my Ace and theres no clearance issues.
    No pics yet...sorry.

    I just rode Walker Ranch in Boulder, CO for the first trail.
    Bikes handles great. I also ate it in a rock garden and dented the downtube. DOH!

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    So after reading all the positive feedback I pulled the trigger, built it up last weekend & then got sent on a business trip. I've only ridden it once on the local bike path which has only a slight tease of an actual dirt trail. Felt great and can't wait to really test it out tomorrow.

    Anyway, thought I would post a pic to share & add to the collection for all those thinking about a Sette build.



    Frame: Sette Ace 18.5" w/ Monarch 3.3
    Fork: 2008 Reba Race
    Headset: Cane Creek S3
    Shifters: Shimano LX
    Brakes: Hayes El Camino 160mm
    Front Derailluer: Shimano Deore
    Rear Derailluer: Shimano LX
    Cassette: Shimano XT
    Chain: Shimano HG-93
    Crankset: Non Series Shimano Deore
    Wheels/Hubs: Mavic 223/Shimano XT
    Cockpit: Easton EA50 seat post/stem, EA70 Monkey Bar, Lizard Skins North Shore Grips
    Seat: WTB Laser V Pro
    Tires: WTB Velociraptor
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    Don't forget to post a ride report!


    Quote Originally Posted by Swamp Rat
    So after reading all the positive feedback I pulled the trigger, built it up last weekend & then got sent on a business trip. I've only ridden it once on the local bike path which has only a slight tease of an actual dirt trail. Felt great and can't wait to really test it out tomorrow.

    Anyway, thought I would post a pic to share & add to the collection for all those thinking about a Sette build.



    Frame: Sette Ace 18.5" w/ Monarch 3.3
    Fork: 2008 Reba Race
    Headset: Cane Creek S3
    Shifters: Shimano LX
    Brakes: Hayes El Camino 160mm
    Front Derailluer: Shimano Deore
    Rear Derailluer: Shimano LX
    Cassette: Shimano XT
    Chain: Shimano HG-93
    Crankset: Non Series Shimano Deore
    Wheels/Hubs: Mavic 223/Shimano XT
    Cockpit: Easton EA50 seat post/stem, EA70 Monkey Bar, Lizard Skins North Shore Grips
    Seat: WTB Laser V Pro
    Tires: WTB Velociraptor

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    Do you mind taking one of the tire clearence between the arch brace of seat & chain stays? And what type/size tire you are running?

    Thx in advance-JMac
    JMac,
    I hope these pics are helpful. I'm running Mythos 2.1s. My pics aren't the most accurate, but it looks like there is 2 5/8" or 2.625" of clearance.
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    I was curious about my build cost, so I broke it down. All parts were new except the fork which was an OE takeoff. Price without shipping is $1458

    480 Sette Ace Frame
    280 Rockshox Recon Shock
    30 IRC Mythos Tires
    100 Rynolite Wheels
    8 Rim tape
    15 Slime Heavy Duty Tubes
    70 Avid BB5 Brakes
    23 Sette Duo Bar
    22 FSA Pig Headset
    10 Spacers
    13 Sette Duo Stem
    24 Lizard Skins Peaty Grips
    20 Avid Speed Dial Levers
    145 SRAM X.9 Shifters/Rear D
    27 SRAM X.7 Front D
    70 FSA Dynadrive Cranks & BB
    30 SRAM Cassette
    16 SRAM Chain
    13 Sette Venn Seatpost
    10 Giant Seatclamp
    30 Specialized Saddle
    12 Cables
    10 Cable Housing
    1458 Total

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    Great

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    JMac,
    I hope these pics are helpful. I'm running Mythos 2.1s. My pics aren't the most accurate, but it looks like there is 2 5/8" or 2.625" of clearance.
    The 2nd one is the most helpfull and is what I was looking for, as the side clearences looked good on the site pix. The others shots are blocked by the tape.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Did any of you face and ream the headset including the bottom bracket? I've tried asking Sette USA. No response.

    Quote Originally Posted by bholwell
    I'm still loving my Sette Ace. No complaints whatsoever with the shock (Monarch 3.3), and the pivots are still perfect. IMO, this is a very capable XC racer due to the light weight and efficient suspension design.

    Here's a pic I just took. I'll try to take some more once I replace the handlebar and cut down my hydro lines.

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    I did not face or ream the headset or the bottom bracket. After 189 miles of trail riding, it's still going strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    The 2nd one is the most helpfull and is what I was looking for, as the side clearences looked good on the site pix. The others shots are blocked by the tape.
    Here's a couple more of the bottom for you, sans the tape.
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    Great shots

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    Here's a couple more of the bottom for you, sans the tape.
    Thanks.
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    The mechanic at my local bike shop didn't think it was necessary to face or ream the frame. I did need to have the BB shell chased. I couldn't install the left side BB bearing cup due to too much paint on the BB shell threads. I was afraid I might cross thead it if I forced it in.

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well Sette Ace Build



    Here is, well was my build. I was an early adopter (October 2007) and I have encountered a ton of people asking about the frame. I really like the bike and have posted a review in the frame section. I'm curious to know how people feel about the geometry of this frame. I found it a little front heavy but the steep head tube angle made the bike corner well and made the bottom bracket height nice. I was never in love with the shock and am glad to see it has been changed on the new bikes.

    But I also have some bad news...sorry to hijack this thread



    Unfortunately after an endo over a log last week the bike started creaking really bad and I discovered a crack on my down tube. I have not been able to find anyone who has needed to file a warranty claim with Sette yet. I'm curious to know if there is anyone out there who has tried to get a frame repaired.

    I don't want to discourage anyone from purchasing an Ace. If anything I figured this would be a good opportunity to see if Sette is prepared to stand behind their product. Anyway I'll keep you guys updated with my progress.

    -carlos

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    It will definitely be interesting to see how they react to this, hopefully with great support. Glad that didn't break out more during a ride for you as well, that might not have been very good.
    Good luck and let us know. I got my frame a few weeks ago but haven't had the time to build it up yet.. looking forward to trying it out.
    - mike -

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    From looks of it......

    Quote Originally Posted by carlos-ma-xc
    Unfortunately after an endo over a log last week the bike started creaking really bad and I discovered a crack on my down tube.
    -carlos
    .....downtube/headtube looks like they took the force(s) of fork compressing in towards frame. Did you endo after T-bone'g the log or after going over it?? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    .....downtube/headtube looks like they took the force(s) of fork compressing in towards frame. Did you endo after T-bone'g the log or after going over it?? Just curious.
    I was tired and came up short when I tried to lift the front tire over the log. It stopped me dead, front fork compressed fully and I went superman over the handlebars. I'd have to imagine it was already fatigued and that crash was the straw that broke the camels back. Yes I do tend to crash a lot (because I suck) but my buddies Jamis XC pro has taken just as much abuse and its still going strong after 4+ years. I admit I put a ton of hard miles on the frame but I don't think it should have failed this early. I'm only 160 lbs and I don't do any kind of drops. I don't know, if it was my fault then fine I'll accept that, if not I think it should be fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos-ma-xc
    I was tired and came up short when I tried to lift the front tire over the log. It stopped me dead, front fork compressed fully and I went superman over the handlebars. I'd have to imagine it was already fatigued and that crash was the straw that broke the camels back. Yes I do tend to crash a lot (because I suck) but my buddies Jamis XC pro has taken just as much abuse and its still going strong after 4+ years. I admit I put a ton of hard miles on the frame but I don't think it should have failed this early. I'm only 160 lbs and I don't do any kind of drops. I don't know, if it was my fault then fine I'll accept that, if not I think it should be fixed.

    carlos
    What kind of speed were you carrying when you went OTB?

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    I wasn't questioning abuse...

    Quote Originally Posted by carlos-ma-xc
    It stopped me dead, front fork compressed fully and I went superman over the handlebars. I don't know, if it was my fault then fine I'll accept that, if not I think it should be fixed.

    carlos
    ...just by breaking on the underside of the d/t figured that's what probably happened, otherwise to break it there like that after going over the log you would have more likely face planted into terra firma!! .
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    Think theis frame would work well for a 200 pound trail rider? Is it stiff enough?

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    Should be.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SJR
    Think theis frame would work well for a 200 pound trail rider? Is it stiff enough?
    ......just don't T-bone any logs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJR
    Think theis frame would work well for a 200 pound trail rider? Is it stiff enough?
    I weigh in at 240 fully loaded and the frame seems pretty stiff as far a frame flex. I am able to run a much lower psi in the rear shock than I ran in my Stumpjumper (250 psi), I run around 180 psi to be exact and suspension bob is minimal.

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    So I finally got my Ace out in the dirt last weekend and thought I would post a delayed report. I have no previous real FS experience (wally bikes don't count) so take that into consideration.

    Bottom line, I loved it. Frame felt plenty stiff, actually stiffer than my Trek 4500 which had issues w/ intermittent brake rotor rub do to frame flex (FWIW, I'm 5'10" @ 215lb w/o gear). My biggest fear was the penalty I would pay in climbing efficiency, especially since I'm still not in great, heck not even good, shape. I did not feel the bike played any roll in my climbing issues nor that it was not sapping my power as compared to my HT. What I did notice was the improved traction on the climbs and if anything an improvement.

    The decreased beating my old bones took was definitely noticed as was the greatly improved traction and confidence in the rocky downhill sections and the cornering was also great.

    As for pedal bob, I do notice some, at least when I look at the frame while pedaling. But if I wasn't looking for it, I never felt it, nor did I feel any penalty from it. The shock worked great, I used all the damping modes, probably more for psychological affect than anything, but they work as intended.

    I only had one issue w/ the bike, and that was Hydro/Cable housing rub leaving marks on the TT from suspension movement, pretty minor stuff.

    The one concern I had with this frame after receiving it and building it up was that I noticed the down tube seems to have a very thin wall section. Then with carlos-ma-xc's post, that concern has been reinforced. Hopefully won't be an issue since I'm too old to do anything really strenuous to the bike.

    All in all, very happy w/ the purchase. Now, if only I could ride more.

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    Well, I just replaced the handlebars and got a new training wheelset. Here are some pics before I get it dirty (again). And I know, I still need to cut down my hydro lines.

    I'm looking forward to a nice ride after work tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bholwell
    Well, I just replaced the handlebars and got a new training wheelset. Here are some pics before I get it dirty (again). And I know, I still need to cut down my hydro lines.
    Maxxis "Prototype"?

    Looks like some nice low thread. Do you run it with sealant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Maxxis "Prototype"?

    Looks like some nice low thread. Do you run it with sealant?
    The front is an Ardent 2.25, and the rear is an Aspen 2.1 (2.5mm center tread height). For the low tread height of the Aspen, it grips surprisingly well.
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    Where's the badge on the headtube? It looks a little naked without it. Throw a sticker on that.

    BTW...nice bike. Definitely looking good.

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    Whoa, very nice...


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    I'm the OP on this thread. I never did buy one of these but I think Price Point should consider giving me an Ace for starting this thread as it is probably the best advertising they could have hoped for. haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    Where's the badge on the headtube? It looks a little naked without it. Throw a sticker on that.
    Yeah, I think it looks a little naked too. I didn't like the original headtube badge, so off it came. (Probably saved 10g! ) I don't know about a sticker, though. Anyone have a recommendation for a replacement badge?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeno
    BTW...nice bike. Definitely looking good.
    Thank you


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    I'm the OP on this thread. I never did buy one of these but I think Price Point should consider giving me an Ace for starting this thread as it is probably the best advertising they could have hoped for. haha
    Yeah, I agree. Or at least a discount. And while you're at it, tell them I'd like a discount on the Sette Phantom frame. I need to build up a light hardtail for my Xterra races.
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    Hello guys, I just started mntn biking last Aug. '08. Not sure if it would suit me, I got a basic Giant HT bike(boulder, large). I put in my share of tumbles in the few months of riding. Now, I think I like it and would now like to try a FS bike.

    Please allow me to cut to the chase:

    1. How would you rate the Sette Ace XC bike as is sold by Price Point with stock components?
    2. I have the ff build 5'10", 180lbs, 32 inseam and about 24-25" reach: according to PP's bike fit info I could either go 18.5" or 20.5". Which size would you recommend and why?

    I don't really intend to race, do high jumps nor DH at high speeds. It's more like doing stuff in moderation to bike another day.

    Thanks!

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    Yeah!.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Ark
    I'm the OP on this thread. I never did buy one of these haha
    What's that all about? But with your 5 post, compared to my 25, I elect myself as 'most advertised' and should get a frame out of it! PP, are you getting any of this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biker46
    1. How would you rate the Sette Ace XC bike as is sold by Price Point with stock components?

    2. I have the ff build 5'10", 180lbs, 32 inseam and about 24-25" reach: according to PP's bike fit info I could either go 18.5" or 20.5". Which size would you recommend and why?

    I don't really intend to race, do high jumps nor DH at high speeds. It's more like doing stuff in moderation to bike another day.

    Thanks!
    (1) The bike, currently on sale for $999.98, is a great value IMO. SRAM X7 is a solid component level. It's built with Mavic 719 & XT disc hubs, a wheelset that cost me $285 delivered from BWW. PP specs 120mm fork, which slackens the geometry a bit. It'll improve DH handling, but may affect climbing and handling. I have 100mm fork on mine and I find that I can climb as well as I did on my HT with an 80mm fork. Speaking of forks, I would check around to see how well an RS Tora 302 air performs.

    (2) I would recommend the 18.5" for you. I'm 5'8", same reach, approx 31" inseam and while I have my bike dialed in, the first time I rode my Ace, it felt big. It would easily accomodate you. I don't know much about the differences between the Monarch 2.1 vs the 3.3, but the 3.3 shock rocks. I'm 235 lbs, with sag set 15% I'm only using 50% of the travel.

    I share your ride philosophy, I enjoy a challenging ride, but I'm no adrenaline junkie. I like to keep my rides within my skill level and under control.

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    Hello Guys,

    I'm also thinking of getting the Sette Ace, I'm just a beginner but I hope to do small drops and some jumps on this bike but I don't want to sacrifice climbing ability too much as well.
    Would you know if the Flite has bob issues and is difficult to climb with? I am torn between the Flite and the Ace. I have no plans to go into racing or fast downhills but just try to enjoy all features of the trails as much as possible. Your opinions are much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojelijb
    Hello Guys,

    I'm also thinking of getting the Sette Ace, I'm just a beginner but I hope to do small drops and some jumps on this bike but I don't want to sacrifice climbing ability too much as well.
    Would you know if the Flite has bob issues and is difficult to climb with? I am torn between the Flite and the Ace. I have no plans to go into racing or fast downhills but just try to enjoy all features of the trails as much as possible. Your opinions are much appreciated.
    Flite is your ticket.

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    Why is Flite my ticket? some explanation would help me decide
    I'm 5'11, 160lbs in case this helps...

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    Expand your ride style

    Quote Originally Posted by ojelijb
    Why is Flite my ticket? some explanation would help me decide
    I'm 5'11, 160lbs in case this helps...
    Are they normal conditions encountered on xc/trail bike rides as in 1-2' drops and water bar jumps? Or more aggressive all mountain type stuff? You mentioned drops/jumps which would lean more to reccomending the Flite. Yes they could be done without issue on the Ace depending on how much/often you were doing them and of course to some degree rider dynamics could come into play.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Mostly on normal trail conditions. But I do hope to use it in on some bmx style dirt jumps occasionally(by occasionally i mean when i have the guts to do it which i still dont have). Thanks, I think I will go with the Flite. Either way it is a great upgrade for me from my 2nd hand 2000 univega hardtail. Would you recommend medium or large? my height is right between those two sizes in pricepoint's sizing chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pogliaghi
    (1) The bike, currently on sale for $999.98, is a great value IMO. SRAM X7 is a solid component level. It's built with Mavic 719 & XT disc hubs, a wheelset that cost me $285 delivered from BWW. PP specs 120mm fork, which slackens the geometry a bit. It'll improve DH handling, but may affect climbing and handling. I have 100mm fork on mine and I find that I can climb as well as I did on my HT with an 80mm fork. Speaking of forks, I would check around to see how well an RS Tora 302 air performs.

    (2) I would recommend the 18.5" for you. I'm 5'8", same reach, approx 31" inseam and while I have my bike dialed in, the first time I rode my Ace, it felt big. It would easily accomodate you. I don't know much about the differences between the Monarch 2.1 vs the 3.3, but the 3.3 shock rocks. I'm 235 lbs, with sag set 15% I'm only using 50% of the travel.

    I share your ride philosophy, I enjoy a challenging ride, but I'm no adrenaline junkie. I like to keep my rides within my skill level and under control.
    Thanks a lot for your suggestions pogliaghi. I very much appreciate it.

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    Happy Father's Day.

    To all you Dads,

    Happy Father's Day!

    I'd celebrate part of this day on the trail, but it's raining, raining, raining here in NY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamp Rat
    The one concern I had with this frame after receiving it and building it up was that I noticed the down tube seems to have a very thin wall section. Then with carlos-ma-xc's post, that concern has been reinforced. Hopefully won't be an issue since I'm too old to do anything really strenuous to the bike.
    If I understood carlos-ma-xc's post correctly, he got his frame back in 2007. Question: has there been no change in ace's frame design since then?

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    Wow some of you are really good at putting decent parts on one of the worst looking frames I have ever seen. Each to their own, but why would you drop a whole bunch of cash on king headsets, DT swiss wheels, FOX and SID forks, Juicy 7 brakes and then get tight when it comes to the frame? $2000 buys a lot more bike than those tin cans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Dunlop
    Wow some of you are really good at putting decent parts on one of the worst looking frames I have ever seen. Each to their own, but why would you drop a whole bunch of cash on king headsets, DT swiss wheels, FOX and SID forks, Juicy 7 brakes and then get tight when it comes to the frame? $2000 buys a lot more bike than those tin cans.
    IMO, the frame is worthy of these components. I don't pay retail, but even if I did I would be happy with my purchases.

    And if you can show me a $2000 bike that matches the component spec and performance of mine, I'll buy you a beer.
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