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    I am still waiting on the funds to buy this frame, but looks like all you folks are having a hoot on it. Keep those ride reports coming.

    I just thought those cranks were "cute" .... but on a more serious note, Just spotted some nice forks. Wish I could get it for my current bike, but For someone building up a weight wennie Ace right now this could be a good deal. Candy Red manitou R7 Fork at under 3 lbs (claimed) for under $300. They are all over the online stores right now, but Jenson has the 80mm version and Cambra has the 100 mm version. Nice and Light Reviews here on MTBR are pretty decent too.

    Do an ebay search on "Manitou R7" and you will find white and black similar versions for about the same priice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstang01
    Here are a some pics of the ace after the first test ride. tell me what yall think!
    Looks good How was your ride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstang01
    Here are a some pics of the ace after the first test ride. tell me what yall think!
    It looks great. How does it ride? How does it handle?
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    Well After the first test ride in a empty parking lot I decided to enter a local race with the ace(never ridden on the trail). I can honestly say that the ace far surpassed my expectations from a frame that was had for such a low price. Coming from a hard tail I was very pleased how smoothly rocks and roots were soaked up by the FS but it still climbed like a goat. Handling was also great and I felt I had more traction going through turns due to the rear tire staying planted. Its hard to offer a comparison to other FS bikes because I have limited time on them but compared to a superlight this bike was just as good if not better, at 1/3 the price!

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    So you have had some time on a Santa Cruz Superlight ? Odd that you bring that up, that was the very frame I had my eye on before I came across the Ace several months back. Are you saying (in your opintion) this rides as nice as a superlight? Any cross comparisons? I am very interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstang01
    but compared to a superlight this bike was just as good if not better, at 1/3 the price!
    How do you figure 1/3 the price? You can get a brand new Superlight D_XC build from Cambria for $1500.

    http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.a...+MOUNTAIN+BIKE

    Could you build the same bike on a Sette Ace for $1500?

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    ummm okay sinker it was just a guess, My point was that It could be had for less

    mrm1-Don't get me wrong the superlight is a great bike and I highly recommend one for anybody wanting a single pivot. But I do think the ace handles and performs just as well for less money

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    Blackstang, i hope you know the ace is truely a single pivot aswell. There is only one pivot between the frame and the rear wheel on both of those. They only differ on how the range of motion is transfered to the shock. I believe the offical term for the ace's suspension is called a 'faux bar'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstang01
    ummm okay sinker it was just a guess, My point was that It could be had for less

    mrm1-Don't get me wrong the superlight is a great bike and I highly recommend one for anybody wanting a single pivot. But I do think the ace handles and performs just as well for less money
    No problem. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass either, but seriously aren't you pretty close to $1500 with your build? I'm still trying to decide on my next bike and even if the Sette Ace is a great frame for $500, you still need a fork, wheels, drivetrain, brakes, cranks, BB, headset, etc.

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    While that is true on the Cambria Superlight deal, it is the entry level superlight build ... but it is a great deal. But try to go and buy just a superlight frame, while the ace may not be quit a third the price, if you already have the components the deal starts looking pretty sweet at that point.

    But that is where my problem comes in. I would be doing a parts swap from my 04 Marin. Would work except seat post, clamp, Frt DR and cables .... BUT .... my parts are 04 and entry level. Any much upgrading has me spending near what the Superlight you site would cost with better parts OR say an Ibex Asta Comp with better parts. This is why I stay on the fence with the Ace build. But of the 3, I like the look and "whiteness" of the Ace the best.

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    I hear ya mrm1...... I had the same delimma your facing a few weeks ago when deciding to build up the ace or just by a asta X7. My initial thought was to swap all the parts over from my GF wahoo but transition bikes is having a clearance and I picked up FD, LH and RH shifters for 13 bucks a piece. So now I have a full 9 speed conversion and i couldn't be happier. The new X7 drive train is WAY worth the money compared to my old shimano 8 speed, The shifts are so quick and smooth it's mind blowing!

    And my frame came with a clamp, but I order one so you have one less part to buy if you want it my extra

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncomplientspud
    Blackstang, i hope you know the ace is truely a single pivot aswell. There is only one pivot between the frame and the rear wheel on both of those. They only differ on how the range of motion is transfered to the shock. I believe the offical term for the ace's suspension is called a 'faux bar'
    I'm not very experienced on the FS bike design lingo as of yet but slowly getting up to speed. So the Ace and the Racer-X share the same design(faux bar) am i right? just curious

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    Glad that you brought up that question Blackstang. I assume that you are are talking of the titus x racer. As i know that uses the horst link on that suspension. THe horst link is patented by spec and used on all of their bikes. It has two pivots between the frame and the the hub. Giant uses the masto (sp) sysem and i believe iron horse uses the DW link which from what i saw seem to be similar but differ in link placement, length ect.

    If you are worried about what all these means do.n't worry. Different setups will yield different axle paths as the suspension travels. That then gives different feed back to you on the bike in the form of several effects.

    I hope this doesn't scare you off the ace, FYI trek uses a faux bar set up on their race FS xc bikes aswell

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    Compared to the Superlight

    Comparing frame to frame, you will find that the superlight has tighter geometry (shorter wheelbase, steeper head angle, steep seat angle, lower stand over, and lower bb height) and will out turn and out handle the Ace. The Ace is a little more slack and has a longer wheelbase so it is possible that it might be a better descender. Also, its higher BB height will allow it to get up and over obstacles just a bit easier. According to published weights, the Ace is slightly lighter by a couple of ounces.

    Both the Superlight and the Ace use a single pivot. The Ace has a single pivot linkage however but I would bet that in the pedaling department both are probably similar. As far as stiffness, I am not sure, but the Superlight is pretty freaking stiff. I have yet to ride an Ace so I can't compare in that area.

    Both have a 50 mm shock stroke which means that they will feel pretty plush for a XC bike. this is a nice 2:1 leverage ratio which can't be beat!

    As for the shock, with the Superlight frame, you get a Fox Float R for 899 (on sale at competitive cyclist) which you can really only adjust the rebound. On the Ace, you get a Rock Shox Monarch 3.3 with an adjustable pedaling platform and lockout for only 499.

    So, just looking at the frame, the Ace is 400 dollars cheaper and has a shock with more adjustment. It is probably more stable through the rough stuff. The superlight is a proven xc winner that will out turn the Ace easily and has a reputation as being a really good pedaler. In a race, I would take the Santa Cruz. In a more trailbike situation, I would probably go with the Ace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMPhi767
    So, just looking at the frame, the Ace is 400 dollars cheaper and has a shock with more adjustment. It is probably more stable through the rough stuff. The superlight is a proven xc winner that will out turn the Ace easily and has a reputation as being a really good pedaler. In a race, I would take the Santa Cruz. In a more trailbike situation, I would probably go with the Ace.
    Again, not trying to be a jerk, just looking at the bottom line. The SL D XC build from Cambria for $1500 is a pretty nicely spec'd bike. Not top-shelf, but pretty nice. Cambria is paying wholesale prices on the SL frame (not $899), Rockshox fork, Shimano drivetrain parts, Avid brakes, etc.

    Starting with a $499 frame and paying retail for the same build kit, could you build a Sette Ace for $1500?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinker
    Again, not trying to be a jerk, just looking at the bottom line. The SL D XC build from Cambria for $1500 is a pretty nicely spec'd bike. Not top-shelf, but pretty nice. Cambria is paying wholesale prices on the SL frame (not $899), Rockshox fork, Shimano drivetrain parts, Avid brakes, etc.

    Starting with a $499 frame and paying retail for the same build kit, could you build a Sette Ace for $1500?.
    I am just talking about a frame to frame build.

    If price point put those same parts on the Ace and did their own build, they would easily come in much cheaper. That is the power of a company buying parts in bulk.

    The D XC build on the 2009 superlight is a really good deal for sure. I think it is an awesome bike. The reason some people like the Ace is because it is probably a good frame if you have a hardtail and want to swap parts. I could do that with my hardtail and the only extra cost would be getting a different seat post.

    That is much cheaper than a brand new Superlight. According to other's experience, they are happy with the performance of the Ace, so why not try it if you don't have 1500 dollars plus shipping to spend?
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    NMP, that is the best comparison of a Superlight I have ever read. The highter BB height Ace would be Key over the Superlight as I am presently use to a really hi BB hight. upwards of 13.5" and the ACE is 13". With the 12,25 of the SL I would probably bang the ground for a month.

    One other thing I do not know, When I brought up a Superlight to a salesman in an LBS (who use to work at another LBS that sold superlights), he told me the Superlights are prone to frame cracks on the chain stays behind the seat tub/BB hub. Never heard of that before. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinker
    Again, not trying to be a jerk, just looking at the bottom line. The SL D XC build from Cambria for $1500 is a pretty nicely spec'd bike. Not top-shelf, but pretty nice. Cambria is paying wholesale prices on the SL frame (not $899), Rockshox fork, Shimano drivetrain parts, Avid brakes, etc.

    Starting with a $499 frame and paying retail for the same build kit, could you build a Sette Ace for $1500?.
    Now you can compare. Weird that we were just pondering all of this.

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail.htm?stylePkey=18722
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    An Ace Build .... Oh My !

    Is this frame coming of age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMPhi767
    Now you can compare. Weird that we were just pondering all of this.

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail.htm?stylePkey=18722

    Cool! That's a very nice build at a great price.

    I'm a little surprised at the weight (29.8lbs for a Medium). Certainly not a porker, but more than I would have guessed. Are the Travativ cranks & BB fairly heavy? Maybe the no-name stems, bars, saddles are beefy, too.

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    Price Point Ace build:

    FWIW - In looking close, it is not the same shock on the full build as the frame.

    Monarch 2.1 on the build / Monarch 3.3 on the Frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1
    Price Point Ace build:

    FWIW - In looking close, it is not the same shock on the full build as the frame.

    Monarch 2.1 on the build / Monarch 3.3 on the Frame.
    Yeah, I noticed that too. Boo....However, the 2.1 is equivalent to the Fox Float R if you look at adjustments, so it is probably a more fair comparison.
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    So I am back to the idea of a build. Not because the components on the build Ace are not better than what I have (they probably are), but I like the idea of building up an Ace Frame with a fork like the Manitou R7. That for is really lite and even with my components could end up having a something weighs under 28 and could only go down from there.

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    Hi, everyone! Sorta going off the subject here.

    I've been looking at this frame for a few days, but was wondering for those who have it or know more about it can clarify a few things for me.

    1. Is the bottom bracket painted? Does it need to be faced? I currently have the Hollowtech II BB.
    2. Are there spare rear derailleur hangers readily available? Just in case I break one.
    3. I've also heard that pivot bearings need to be replaced once in awhile, are they readily available?

    I don't want to get stuck down the road, because I cannot get parts for the bike....

    Thanks

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    Hangers are no problem:
    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/168...eur-Hanger.htm

    Facing, Paint and Bearings will have to be someone else's call.

    Shoot Price Point an email. They have always been really good about responding back quickly to me.

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    Ditto....

    Quote Originally Posted by Neu5p3ed
    Hi, everyone! Sorta going off the subject here.

    I've been looking at this frame for a few days, but was wondering for those who have it or know more about it can clarify a few things for me.

    1. Is the bottom bracket painted? Does it need to be faced? I currently have the Hollowtech II BB.
    2. Are there spare rear derailleur hangers readily available? Just in case I break one.
    3. I've also heard that pivot bearings need to be replaced once in awhile, are they readily available?

    I don't want to get stuck down the road, because I cannot get parts for the bike....

    Thanks
    1. Probably overspray. Builder should clean out I would think, face as requested.

    3. I believe when I checked they said you could order some with frame if requested.

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    Thanks for the responses.

    I actually plan on building the bike myself by swapping over my parts from my HT.

    For those of you that already have the bike built did you guys, just mount the bottom bracket as soon as you got the frame?

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    The overspray was minimal on the frame that I received so I just installed the BB and away I went. Has been a couple months with some real nasty wet rides and everything is holding up great ... except the rear shock dumb thing won't hold air, but thats going to be replaced under warranty.

    Great bike though, look forward to seeing your build.

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    I just ordered one after reading all the reviews and this entire post. Hope it gets here soon!

    The order list:
    Sette Ace XC Frame W/Rockshox Monarch 3.3 16.5"
    2008 Manitou R7 MRD Absolute Suspension Fork 100mm
    Race Face Deus XC Headset
    Sette RS-D230 Headlock Black
    Race Face Evolve XC Seatpost Black 31.6mm
    Sette Lynx Saddle
    Race Face Evolve XC Stem 31.8mm 120mm
    Race Face Evolve XC Handlebar 31.8mm
    Race Face Evolve XC X Crankset Black 175mm

    FYI - I have the Sette Lynx saddle on my singlespeed and really like it. Great saddle, great weight, and a great price.

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    Man that is going to be nice. I am guessing that will be the Red Fork? Wanting to see some pics of that.

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    Thanks, mrm1! I'm pretty stoked.

    Price point friggin rocks. I just noticed that the Deus stem is on sale fro the same price as the Evolve, so I called and they swapped it for me. It is not the newest version, but is 35g lighter than the Evolve. The order should ship out today!

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    Avoiding work to "build" the bike...


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    "Virtual" build anyway.....

    Quote Originally Posted by seneb
    Avoiding work to "build" the bike...

    ....sloping tt, that must be a cut-n-paste pic of an 18" frame.

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    Yup, just took the pic from the Price Point site. I ordered a 16.5" frame. And yes, it is all virtual. The parts shipped today.

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    Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by seneb
    Yup, just took the pic from the Price Point site. I ordered a 16.5" frame. And yes, it is all virtual. The parts shipped today.
    I've kicked this frame around too, and size in a 16.5" as well, so that's why the frame pic caught my eye! Still on the fence though, almost ordered one of these just when the rear shock issues took it off the site for awhile. I have a 100 and 130 forks available for a bike build. The Fox Float 130RLC is by far a better fork, but would need to have the travel dropped to 110 or so to fit geo of the frame. Haven't decided yet if I want to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seneb
    Thanks, mrm1! I'm pretty stoked.

    Price point friggin rocks. I just noticed that the Deus stem is on sale fro the same price as the Evolve, so I called and they swapped it for me. It is not the newest version, but is 35g lighter than the Evolve. The order should ship out today!
    Nice Picss.

    I see you say you got the 16.5". What size are you? (ie inseam, height, etc) Just wondering how the fit will be and what others are riding.

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    Shock Q?

    Quote Originally Posted by seneb
    Yup, just took the pic from the Price Point site. I ordered a 16.5" frame. And yes, it is all virtual. The parts shipped today.
    Did you check into the difference on the 2.1 shock that comes on the built bike vs. the 3.1 that comes on the frameset? I assume it's a step up like other manf's do from an RP2 to RP23 on their frames.

    Thx in advance.

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    Quick update...
    Buy a low mount front derailleur. The high mount is being sent back to Price Point. My fault, but they also don't specify that in the specs on the website. In addition to the parts list above, I have added Mavic Crossride disc wheels, Avid Elixir R 160mm brakes, SRAM X.9 F&R derailleurs and shifters, SRAM PG 980 cassette (11-32), SRAM PC-971 chain, Sette XE bar ends, and a Velocity cage I had lying around. Pics to come.

    So, what you're all wondering (I assume) is what it weighs. I alternated weighing myself and myself with the bike five times each, and the average is 25.84 pounds. The only things missing are the front derailleur and a small amount of cable housing.

    Another side note. DO NOT buy Velocity rim plugs to go with the Mavic Crossride wheels. The spoke holes are too large.

    JMac47 - some info...

    Monarch 2.1:
    Weight 200g
    Damping Hydraulic with IFP
    Damping Adjust External rebound
    Configurations 152 x 31mm (6.0 x 1.25), 165 x 28mm (6.5 x 1.5), 190 x 50mm (7.5 x 2.0) 200 x 50 or 57mm (7.875 x 2.0 or 2.25) 216 x 63mm (8.5 x 2.5)
    Spring Solo Air
    Spring Adjust Air pressure via single Schrader Valve
    Shaft Material Aluminum
    Shaft Diameter 9mm
    Body Material Aluminum
    Body Diameter 28mm
    Body Finish Hard anodized with sag gradients
    Options High volume air can

    Monarch 3.3:
    Weight 200g
    Damping Hydraulic with IFP
    Damping Adjust External rebound and Floodgate
    Configurations 152 x 31mm (6.0 x 1.25), 165 x 28mm (6.5 x 1.5), 190 x 50mm (7.5 x 2.0) 200 x 50 or 57mm (7.875 x 2.0 or 2.25) 216 x 63mm (8.5 x 2.5)
    Spring Solo Air
    Spring Adjust Air pressure via single Schrader Valve
    Shaft Material Aluminum
    Shaft Diameter 9mm
    Body Material Aluminum
    Body Diameter 28mm
    Body Finish Hard anodized with sag gradients
    Upgrades 3 position Floodgate lever
    Options High volume air can

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    Thx for update

    Quote Originally Posted by seneb
    Quick update...
    Buy a low mount front derailleur.

    JMac47 - some info...

    Monarch 3.3:
    Damping Adjust External rebound and Floodgate
    Upgrades 3 position Floodgate lever
    So looks like kind of a quasi RP23, except full lockout in lieu of ProPedal. Nice build you got going there.

    My 16.5" would be similar with:

    Have either full XTR/Twistgrip XO/X9 rrd available
    Manitou Minute II 100mm SPV-pretty light/stout enough for my 135lbs.
    Hope Mono minis-140rr/160fr
    Thompson sp & stem
    Carbon ML's
    WTB Devo saddle
    XMax SL's w/Spec Fastrac 2-Bliss

    Yadah yadah...should be under 25#'s I would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1
    These cranks might look cool on the ACE. But I have never heard of them:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...m=220324623021

    For $105 you can buy better looking SLX that is 100g lighter.

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    I'm guessing you mean $105 more than the linked cranks on ebay. I cannot find any SLX cranks for $105.

    About the White and Red cranks - I just thought they looked unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1
    I'm guessing you mean $105 more than the linked cranks on ebay. I cannot find any SLX cranks for $105.
    Actually $101.48 is the current price for either triple or double.

    Google is your friend.

    Free shipping above $250 order. Select USD as currency to see it without tax.

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    Bumping this......

    Quote Originally Posted by seneb
    Pics to come
    ......well, we're waiting. How is the new build working out? Anything to note?
    Let's see the setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    ......well, we're waiting. How is the new build working out? Anything to note?
    Let's see the setup.
    Haha... sorry. The build finished just as I started a new job and began a new semester or teaching. I've had two rides on it, and it is fantastic. The lockout on the Monarch is helpful, but not critical. I'm a hardtail lover and have been for many years, but this bike has changed my mind about full suspension. I had a Specialized FSR years ago, and it sucked energy, which put me back to a hardtail. I forgot my camera last weekend, so I'll try to get some pics this weekend.

    The only issue I am having is some clicking in the Manitou R7 fork. Anyone know if this is common??

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    Quote Originally Posted by seneb
    The only issue I am having is some clicking in the Manitou R7 fork. Anyone know if this is common??
    That squeak is what deterred me from getting the 08 R7. There was a sale for the 08 version for $350. The 09 version fixes the squeak, but at more than twice the price, no thanks.

    I bypassed the manitou all together. I purchased a 08 Rockshox SID Team for around the same price and will have my Ace build ready to build by the end of month. I'll post pics in a month or so when my build is done.

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    Same here...

    Quote Originally Posted by seneb
    Haha... sorry. The build finished just as I started a new job and began a new semester or teaching. I've had two rides on it, and it is fantastic. The lockout on the Monarch is helpful, but not critical. I'm a hardtail lover and have been for many years, but this bike has changed my mind about full suspension. I had a Specialized FSR years ago, and it sucked energy, which put me back to a hardtail. I forgot my camera last weekend, so I'll try to get some pics this weekend.

    The only issue I am having is some clicking in the Manitou R7 fork. Anyone know if this is common??
    Hardtail--'01 Spec SJ FSR XC power zapper as you said--back to hardtails! Well I had another squishy for awhile but that one wasn't an xc setup so I didn't expect the efficiency.

    I ended up getting a Manitou Minute 2 ('06 I think) instead of the R7 too for similar issues I picked up in looking thru reviews on that fork. Plus it was a budget build anyway and saved a couple hundred at the time .

    ***Also, if anyone else looking in on this thread has been riding an ACE for awhile and has some miles on it I'd like to hear some feedback on how they've been holding up. Bushings, pivot problems etc. Hoping the new Monarch 3.3 shock has taken care of the issues they were having before with the frame.

    I also noticed now on the full built PP bikes they are putting 120mm forks on. I thought these were 100mm geometry??

    Any updated info on this bike would be great. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    I also noticed now on the full built PP bikes they are putting 120mm forks on. I thought these were 100mm geometry??
    The description under specifications, on PricePoint for "recommended suspension for travel" says "4-5"/100-120mm"

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    Yep...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbolik
    The description under specifications, on PricePoint for "recommended suspension for travel" says "4-5"/100-120mm"
    Just don't remember it being stated in the earlier model spec. info they had posted . I had seen a few builds with bigger travel forks aswell which didn't fit the label of an "XC" bike. I have a Float 130 I think could be dropped down to 115 travel but seems more trouble to mess with then to just run the 100 I have ready to go.

    Best to you on your build and look forward to the pix .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    ***Also, if anyone else looking in on this thread has been riding an ACE for awhile and has some miles on it I'd like to hear some feedback on how they've been holding up. Bushings, pivot problems etc. Hoping the new Monarch 3.3 shock has taken care of the issues they were having before with the frame.
    x2 !

    I've been eyeing this frame too and would love to hear feedback from those with new Aces as well as those who have had 'em for a while. Seems like a great price for a light frame with a nice shock. I'm really considering moving my HT parts over... which is a tough decision since I have a really nice 08 Trek 8000 HT which I love - but my back doesn't.

    Keep this thread goin!

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    Any updates guys? I'm looking at getting this frame for my fist FS mountain bike. I want to hear it all, the good, the bad, the ugly. How are the Monarchs holding up to millage? Any tips on building this frame up?

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    Finally got her together





    I don't know how much she weighs, she feels light.

    bars: race face xc
    brakes: j7
    shifters: x9
    headset: ck
    fork: 08 rock shox sid team
    wheels: xt hubs, champ spokes, & lim ed dt swiss 4.2
    cassette: SRAM PG990 11-32
    chain: SRAM PC991
    Seatpost: Thompson Masterpiece
    Stem: Race Face XC
    Cranks: RaceFace Dues
    Front Derailleur: XT
    Rear Derailleur: x9
    Tires: Kenda Nevegal 2.1
    Seat: sette lynx

    I still have to fine tune the shifting, trim the pars a bit, and set up my stans no tubes. Will go first ride Thursday or Saturday. I would go tomorrow, but works been pretty busy.

    I'll post a ride report later.

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    Very nice! I like the white rims and is that white shifer cable housing I see? Good job with the aesthetics.
    Now do you plan to race this bike?

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    Nice set up!

    [QUOTE=Hyperbolik]Finally got her together[QUOTE]

    Can't imagine why they have this frame spec'd for a 100-120mm fork. Anything more then a 100 seems too raked for an xc set up.

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    Sette Ace Frame, Anyone have the real weight on this frame?

    Just wondering what the actual weight was on these frames. Just about every manufacturer underestimates the actual weights on their products. There's no reason to believe PP/Sette would be right on target with their estimates.

    I just purchased a complete 2006 Anthem 3 for $650 on Ebay ...then I read this thread. I still feel good, but it caught my interest. I'm going to keep the Anthem frame and R7 fork and sell the remaining parts.

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    I think the 5.3 lbs weight for the medium with shock is correct. Back last summer thay had pics of the frames hanging on a Alpine Digital Bicycle Scale and that was the numbers on the scale.

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    a little late... But definitely race worthy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyeager
    Very nice! I like the white rims and is that white shifer cable housing I see? Good job with the aesthetics.
    Now do you plan to race this bike?
    Thanks! I don't plan on racing this year. Maybe next year if I can get myself into race shape. Right now I'm just enjoying the rides.

    I took my first ride yesterday. Climbing was easier, as this bike is way lighter than my Marin HT. The down hills were comfortable. The full suspension definitely did it's job.

    The only negative things I found with this set up is that it didn't hold its speed as well as my Marin. Also it didn't corner as well on tight switch backs. This could be because I have to get used to the bike still. I'm sure the higher BB height contributed to this today. I'm gonna get some good riding in tomorrow and Sunday. I should have a better feel for the bike by then.

    So far this bike gets

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    Any ideas why you think it "does not hold its speed"?

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    It's probably 5 lbs lighter than my HT, maybe more. I haven't weighed it yet. That's just my best estimate. The 1 semester of college physics tells me that less mass = less momentum, or something to that effect. It's been a decade since i took the class, so....

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    No college physics here but

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbolik
    It's probably 5 lbs lighter than my HT, maybe more. I haven't weighed it yet. That's just my best estimate. The 1 semester of college physics tells me that less mass = less momentum, or something to that effect. It's been a decade since i took the class, so....
    Lighter means you should be able to....pedal it faster maybe?? If you have been pedaling a 30lb. hardtail for awhile I would think anywayz.......

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    I can pedal it faster , but when costing down hill, my ht would stay at speed longer.

    For example, going downhill w/out pedaling i can coast to stop to a tree on my heavier Marin. On my lighter Sette, the coast would stop 10 yard before the tree. That's what it feels like anyway. I haven't done andy testing or measuring. Don't get me wrong, the lighter Sette does, climb and accelerate faster up hill. Just coasting speed decelerates faster with the lighter Sette.

    Going down and up technical stuff the Sette is way better. I went down stuff today way faster than I would have gone on my Hardtail Marin, loose rocks and ruts everywhere. On my Marin were I would usually jam on my brakes, I lightly feathered the Sette.

    I used about 85% of the rear suspension too. The sag is set at 20%, in case you were wondering. A lot of that 85% percent may be due to me pumping though dips and rollers. I'm loving the rear suspension.

    Another negative may be the white, maybe. It's so easy to see when it's dirty. I have already spent more time cleaning the Sette than I've spent in 2 years of owning the Marin. I don't know if that's good or bad. It could also be because the total build was around $2k vs the $500 on the Marin.

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    I figured that's what you ment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbolik
    I can pedal it faster , but when costing down hill, my ht would stay at speed longer.
    May be that the rear suspension is taking some of the rolling enertia out too, more so then the lighter weight factor. I know my ht seems to coast better then my fs.

    Good value on these. I've been hedging back and forth on picking up one of the Ace or Flite frames, now I see they've thrown some resonably priced carbon ht frames on the site, greaaaate......

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    Just out of curiosity, do you feel a little more upright on this bike than the HT? Were you running the Nevgals on the HT or something else? I would think that rolling resistance, and aerodynamics would be the two biggest factors that might slow you down while coasting. The stem looks a little short, which could leave you more upright, causing you to push more air with your chest and the Nevgals, although great for traction, have a pretty aggressive tread pattern and might cause a little more resistance when compared to something like a SB8. Just a guess

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    The tires could have a factor. I run a longer stem and the handle bar height on my HT is higher. The stem height on the Marin is 70 vs the 80 on the Sette. The handle bars have about the same rise, but the sette has on spacer below the stem while the marin has 3. The fork on my Marin is 120mm. I'm probably more upright on my HT more leaned over on the new bike, so I don't think aerodynamics has much to do with the quicker slow downs.

    I don't know if the xt hub on my sette vs. the mavic crossrides on my HT has anything to do with it either.

    As for the tires, I run prancer fire xcs on my ht. I get better traction on the nevegals. May be I'll switch the rims to see if that make much of a difference.

    Even with the Sette builds negatives, it wouldn't stop me from doing the build all over again. I descend with more confidence and speed on the Sette.

    I weighed the bike last night on the bathroom scale. The build came out to 27 lbs. It may be 26.xxx lbs. It's heavier than I thought it was, but it's still a great bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbolik
    The tires could have a factor.
    As for the tires, I run prancer fire xcs on my ht. I get better traction on the nevegals. May be I'll switch the rims to see if that make much of a difference.

    Even with the Sette builds negatives, it wouldn't stop me from doing the build all over again. I descend with more confidence and speed on the Sette.

    I weighed the bike last night on the bathroom scale. The build came out to 27 lbs. It may be 26.xxx lbs. It's heavier than I thought it was, but it's still a great bike.
    I'm glad you're enjoying your Ace! I also think your tire choice has more to do with your bike "not holding its speed" than anything else. Try swapping the rear tire with something else if you're able.

    Your build may be heavier than you thought it'd be, but I'd venture to guess that a lot of that weight is in your wheels & tires. With my race wheelset on (AC w/ CX-ray spokes), and 460 gram tires, my Ace tips the scales at 23.6 lbs; pretty decent for a FS bike with nothing too exotic. I'll post some new pics once I get back from Taiwan (I've upgraded the saddle & stem).

    I'm really having a blast on this bike, and I'm looking forward to doing some endurance races and Xterra triathlons on it this year!
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    Sweet build. Out of curiosity approx. how tall are you ? How does the bike fit as I notice you have a layback seatpost.

    //p.fo

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    The bike fit's great. I'm 5'3", my stem is 80mm and I use 170mm crank arms.

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    I wanted one of these, or the Flite, but they don't have my size. The sale will be over by the time they get my size (23'') in the way my luck goes, haha.
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    Bump!!!!!!!

    Who's running a 120mm fork on the Ace for XC use?

    Also anyone else looked at/picked up the Flite frame with the Monarch shock as a possible build? I have a hardtail now and was considering maybe spanning the travel range abit more and get this frame for a play bike instead of the Ace.

    Reason being I have a 130mm fork that I can drop the travel (down to 115-120 I think ) to use on the Ace, but might be a little too short at 130 for using on the Flite though.

    Any input would be great!

    Thx in advance-JMac

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    Those frames build up mighty sexy.......... nice work, all of you.

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    Just ordered my 18.5 frame.
    I think the sale price went down about 20-25 bucks too. was 500 , now 475-ish....

    Can't wait to build this baby up.

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    just got done building my sette ace!

    got the 20.5 frame [ day after i got it, I noticed price point lowered the price $20.00]
    came with monarch 3.3 about $500.00
    ,got a new set of magura menja forks for the front with head set about $500.00
    the way it worked out I had to use some of my cheapest components[shifters,derailuers and brakes] from my heavy cheap bike until i can upgrade
    but got my xtr cranks on there....
    it ways just about 30 lbs
    and its been raining since i finished it!!
    but having always ridden hardtails im PSYCHED
    reason i got the new frame cuz i recently moved to nc [wilmington]
    and so far the only decent trail here is blue clay which has so many roots it cracked my frame on my beloved old faithful bike..
    but riding the sette around a bit....
    im surprised how stiff the rear shock can be made....without even coming close to maxxing out the psi
    im 6-4" 220 lbs
    both shocks have a lockout that make it feel like roadbike....flick a couple of switches and its like being on a sealy posturpedic!!
    cant wait!!
    so what about you guys that have had the sette for a while.....how have you liked it in the long run??
    pics to come

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    I would contact price point and see if they will spot you back the sale price difference. Some places will if after you order, the item goes on sale.

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    regarding pricepoint

    i emailed them yesterday about the $20.00...still awaiting a reply..i know if i call ill get better results...but...im not terribly concerned at teh moment...more concerned about when the rain will end!!!!!!!

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    My 18.5 just arrived. Cant wait to build it up. The weather is typically nasty here in Chicago, but such is life....I am dying to build and ride this beast.
    Pics and status to follow-

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1
    I would contact price point and see if they will spot you back the sale price difference. Some places will if after you order, the item goes on sale.
    got an email that they will be crediting my account....now i can get some more stuff nice!

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    Any updates on this frame. I am torn between this frame or a new Giant Anthem 2 complete bike. I do a lot of XC and endurance events wondering how the frame will hold up.

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    got my first real ride in today.......
    awsome!!
    having always been a hardtailer...its hard for me to compare it to other fs...
    but having always been a hardtailer....twas like heaven on the trail today
    frame is nice and big [20.5]...
    feels good...layout is good...
    rear shock...[monarch 3.3]only about halfway filled with air....nice and stiff...yet swallowed all the bumps..
    plenty of room to grow into....and was bombing down sections i always had to be cautious about before...didnt have to pick a line nothing...straight over anything i wanted...huge difference from a hardtail....going out tomorow ...more to come

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    Sette Ace XC Build

    Thanks to all the good builds I've seen on this site, I'll be building mine shortly. I've already received the frame and will be adding an XT drivetrain and Avid BB7 brakes. Definately looking forward to getting this together and riding soon. This will be a great replacement for my ten year old Specialized FSR XC...

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    Got my 18.5" on Friday after ordering it on a Wednesday. I wasn't going top mess with it, but my wife left for a few hours and the garage started to call my name. I decided to throw in the headset and mount up the fork and handlebars.
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    Well, since I was pulling my hardtail apart to build this, I thought I might as well throw on the tires to take a look. I was going to mount the crank, but my BB tool didn't fit. So far it's looking good.
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    Nice work

    Did you press in the headset? I've never installed a headset or bottom bracket before so any helpful hints would be great.

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    They make a tool to press in the headset, but I just used my vise with two blocks of wood to protect the metal parts.

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    You can also use a large long bolt with washers and a nut to press them in

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    Finally got it all together. Had to switch back to my old stem.
    Bars: Sette Duo
    Brakes: Avid BB5
    Shifters: SRAM X.9
    hHeadset: FSA Pig
    Fork: 08 RockShox REcon 351
    Wheels: Sun Ditch Witch
    Cassette: SRAM 11-34
    Chain: SRAM
    Seatpost: Sette Venn
    Stem: Icon 110mm
    Cranks: FSA Dynadrive
    Front Derailleur: SRAM X.7
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    Tires: IRC Mythos II
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    18" Sette Ace

    Not sure if it okay to post this here but this thread seems like the only place with decent info on this frame. I am going to sell my 18.5" Ace frame and maybe some other parts from the build. I will post it in the classified section tonight with pictures. I am selling it to fund a 29er project. It is the '08 frame with Monarch 3.3. Only been ridden 4 times light XC a total of maybe 40 miles. I really like the bike but I really want to try a 29er. PM me if interested.

    Oh, I am selling it for $350 plus shipping from TN.

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    This frame is only 480 right now.
    All those on a small frame, how is the clearance between the top tube and your bollocks?
    What's your inside leg measurement?
    I want one but am nervous to buy without try if you know what I mean.

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    Anybody know what a size L frame weigh? If its less than six pounds(2726g), I'm seriously considering it.
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    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/184...onarch-3.3.htm

    if i remembered correctly, for the large size, it was originally posted as (edited5.88) 5.68lbs.

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    @bunce1260, regarding the fit of the small sized frame to my bod, well... how can i put it? hhhmmm... fits me like a road bike.

    btw, i went SC Blur XC... the Ace frame is now owned by a good buddy of mine. i don't have any gripes about the frame... it's just... i want to try out a VPP. i just transferred the parts... see it here
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    isn't that frame a small? the top tube is straight. From what I've read so far I thought only the small had that design

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymzbrm
    if i remembered correctly, for the large size, it was originally posted as 5.68lbs.
    Should be about 5.60 with some Woodman SL Ti seat collar... That clamp is like 50g..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunce1260
    isn't that frame a small? the top tube is straight. From what I've read so far I thought only the small had that design
    you are definitely correct.
    small size frame >>>> ace_frame_16

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    I don't know if the rear shock makes a difference in weight, but the current frames at pricepoint have a different shock. I'm getting my work stand and scale next week. I'll updated my bike weight after I get my scale.

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    how tall are you? just wondering because i'm looking at the sette ace in the 18.5 and i am 6 foot 1. i know the 20.5 is to big and i was wondering if i could pull off the 18.5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobsmtb
    Did you press in the headset? I've never installed a headset or bottom bracket before so any helpful hints would be great.
    I have a large washer with several layers of duct tape on it, wooden block to rest the other end of the head tube, grease and a ball pin hammer. I just cover the headset cup with washer and tap it into a well lubricated headtube. Takes a minute, and I have installed tens of headsets that way over years with no problems whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbolik
    bars: race face xc
    brakes: j7
    shifters: x9
    headset: ck
    fork: 08 rock shox sid team
    wheels: xt hubs, champ spokes, & lim ed dt swiss 4.2
    cassette: SRAM PG990 11-32
    chain: SRAM PC991
    Seatpost: Thompson Masterpiece
    Stem: Race Face XC
    Cranks: RaceFace Dues
    Front Derailleur: XT
    Rear Derailleur: x9
    Tires: Kenda Nevegal 2.1
    Seat: sette lynx
    I finally got her weighed at a dirty 26.13 lbs. She might be an even 26 lbs if i could bring myself to clean her off =)

    That's with a

    front: MavicCrossride, stans notubes, 2.1 prancer fire XC. I taco'ed the one I got a few months ago.
    rear: same lim ed dt swiss 4.2, but tubed 1.95 IRC Mibro Tire

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    I ordered mine Sunday night, with a few components that wouldn't switch over from my 01Stumpjumper FSRxc, including a Rock Shox Toro 318 SA. It's suppose to be here today, I can't wait, it's like christmas, my birthday, and payday all at once!

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    Rear tire size??

    What's the limit on tire size anyone has found to run on the rear. It's hard to tell in the 'complete bike' pics. Looks like they come with Kenda Karma (or similar??) with minimal clearence to seat stay arch.

    Thx in advance-JMac
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    The specs say that the max rear tire clearance is 2.3"

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