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  1. #1
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    2 different Razzo rames on pp, which to buy?

    There is the polished looking bare aluminum version at $179, and another for $249.
    The $179 frame says its 3.25 pounds at 18" size, the $249 frame says its 3.5 pounds at 18".
    Both claim to be similar in material, 7005 aluminum, etc.

    Is the $249 frame just a newer model? Is one a little better than the other?
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    It may be the weight of the extra paint that makes the newer version slightly heavier. 1/4 lb. seems like a bit much but it looks like there are a couple layers on there. I'm pretty sure they are the exact same frame though.

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    same frames, $249 comes with 2011 paint scheme. agreed, no "weigh" the paint accounts for 1/4 lb diff, claimed weight on sites are quasi-reliable if you look closely on the pp site the 2011 razzo frame actually has both claimed weights listed... doh!

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    Both frames are the exact same, one has more sizing options than the other because the one with the paint is a 2011 model the one w/out paint is the previous 3 years model and they are running out of stock for that one, It is missing the 18inch and 20inch sizes. I am not sure what to say about the weight.
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    Just saying that power coat, even on a 26" frame, can sometimes weigh up to an extra 100g or more. That would be just under a 1/4 pound difference... For real. I've stripped and polished a couple of frames and the difference was between 60 and 100g--and that was just for 16" 26er frames. I would imagine the difference on a large or extra-large frame would be a bit higher.
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    My polished Razzo frame (18") was exactly 3.2 lbs out of the box with the seat clamp....

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    The newer painted models also have the cable routing underneath the top tube which is a nice touch.

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