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    Smile Upgrades and in what order for a Genius 740?

    I thought it might be good to get opinions on what upgrades and in what order everyone would do / has done, assuming you couldn't afford to do them all at once... Where do you get most bang for your upgrade buck?

    Here's my thoughts:
    1. Dropper post - this was my first upgrade - I put a Rock Shox reverb stealth on and it has been great

    2. 2x10 drivetrain - my 2nd upgrade - This was easy and cost only the few bucks for the bash guard

    3. New grips - I thought the stock ones sucked so I put on some Lizard Skin Northshores

    4. Tubeless conversion - Stans Flow kit after dropping probably $60 on pinch flat replacement tubes (it's really rocky where I ride)

    Here's what I still want to do but not sure which order for the first two:
    1. New Fox CTD remote shock to work with the Twin lock system - well documented and awesome thread on replacing the harsh DT Swiss Nude shock

    2. Carbon (Light Bicycle) rims - The stock syncros wheels are super clunky and the hubs suck

    3. XT brake upgrade?

    4. XT crank upgrade?

    Other suggestions. What have you done and why?

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    I don't have a 740, I have a 940.
    1. Replaced pedals with Crank Brothers 50/50 2's
    2. Replaced seat with WTB Pure V
    3. Replaced stock wheel set with Stan's Flow EX with Hope Pro Evo 2's
    4. Replace stock rotors with XT Ice Tech's
    1A: I don't ride clipless and the Shimano hybrids drove me nuts.
    2A: Stock seat was way to hard for my liking.
    3A: After tacoing 2 stock front rims they had to go.
    4A: Hope hubs are 6 bolt , stockers CL
    Next up will be a riser bar, I'm not overly fond of the flat bar it came with, I'll probably get a Renthal Fat Bar along with some sort of lock on grips ODI's maybe.
    The Nobby Nics lasted all of 4 months , I replaced them with Kenda Nevegals.
    The Nevegals are being replaced by Conti X Kings on Tuesday , tubeless.The Nevegals while offering great grip are heavy and the rolling resistance are less than desired, if I did downhill stuff they'd probably be great.
    Once I get the bar and tires sorted out , I'll look at a Fox shock to replace the DT Swiss thats on there, but first I want to see if I can get the stocker dialed in better, so far it's been a challenge. After that? I've toyed with a 1x10 setup but havent made my mind up yet.

    I've have well over 3k into it and don't like to upgrade stuff unless it's necessary. I'd look at rims first but thats just me.

    I'll probably flip the shock chip in mine from low to high and see what that does for the handling. There isnt a lot of elevation changes where I live anyways. Enjoy the 740!
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    I did this on my bike.

    swap to 142x12 axle if possible. got it here Scott Genius LT Dropout Set IDS 2 142/RWS 12 - Scott from Westbrook Cycles UK and this is the thru bolt that works Amazon.com: DT Swiss RWS Thru-Bolt 12x142mm Aluminum Lever: Sports & Outdoors the shimano bolt didn't fit.

    brakes i ordered this XT on fibica for $209 Shimano Deore XT BR-M785 Hydraulic Brake Black

    The CTD fox shock is a must (I would do this before anything else) its a 200x57mm with 8x22mm hardware, I also decided for a renthal handlebar 750mm wide and a truvativ stem 40mm

    I didnt have budget for new wheels I just changed the hubs XT front and shimano zee rear hub, also a shimano zee rear derailleur.

    tires I use kenda nevegals they are heavy but have a good grip for downhill and also have crankbrother mallet pedals......I don't care to much about climbing fast...i upgraded my bike more for descending but also have a maxxis set of tire that I use more for XC.

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    My upgrade plan is not much different than others:

    - Dropper post
    - Tubeless
    - Fox CTD remote shock to use with Twinloc
    - bashguard


    One thing I have been looking at is getting a chain guide like this: Bionicon USA C.Guide Chainguide

    relatively inexpensive upgrade and some bling.

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    Hi

    I know this is an old thread but did you change your shock on the 740 or the 940?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayJ82 View Post
    Hi

    I know this is an old thread but did you change your shock on the 740 or the 940?

    Thanks
    I sold mine last year for a Bronson but it was a Genius 740 2013....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayJ82 View Post
    Hi

    I know this is an old thread but did you change your shock on the 740 or the 940?

    Thanks
    Yes, but I would recommend the shock upgrade far down the list. Dropper number one. Stiff wheelset with 12x142 dropout number two.

    I put on a fox float X and am still fiddling with the set-up. I seem to bottom out the shock a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayJ82 View Post
    I know this is an old thread but did you change your shock on the 740 or the 940?
    I have a 740, and have pushed the shock upgrade down the list as well.

    I got a dropper post, only used once, so far so good.
    I got new stem and bars.
    I'm saving for a new wheelset (hoping for carbon, definitely tubeless).
    I'm planning on trying not to use the granny ring this summer to evaluate whether to go 1x.
    then, maybe a new shock.

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    I did new wheels from BWW (fantastic), tubeless, carbon riser bar, replaced big ring with a bash guard. Really want a rear shock.

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    I had already gone SLX for my cranks and I went with wider bars and a short stem. I have a KS Lev seatpost I put on last year. Last week, I upgraded my 2013 suspension to 2015 with a new Fox Float 34 Factory up front and new Fox shock for the rear. I got a screaming deal for both ($850 total), so I couldn't resist. I dumped the Twinloc for Fox's new dual CTD lever and it's like a whole new bike. When it's time to replace the wheels, I'll upgrade to the 142 x 12 rear axle setup...SC

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    How is the ctd better than the twin lock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tfrost View Post
    How is the ctd better than the twin lock?
    The throw of the 2013 Twinloc won't work with the 2015 spec'd fork and shock. Plus, the lever engagement of the Climb and Trail modes were binding. Also, the new Fox lever is smaller and more untuitive. I also figured since I was going with a complete Fox setup, why not use their lever. Who knows, maybe I'll track down a new Twinloc setup and give that a try. It's only money, right?...SC

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    Is there a difference between the 2013 and 2014 twinlock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tfrost View Post
    Is there a difference between the 2013 and 2014 twinlock?
    The difference is with the Fork and Shock. I called Fox and was told the throw for the remote changed when they re-did the 34 Float for 2014 and beyond. I don't have a local Scott dealer any longer, so I just went Fox all the way down the line...SC

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    Hi everyone, I'm going to be upgrading my wheelset soon, and I'm using I9's for hubs.

    Of course they won't accept the centerlock rotors. So now I have to get new rotors. I'm not interested in upgrading the brakes at the same time, but has anyone upgraded their wheelset and needed new rotors without upgrading the brakes?

    Which rotor did you get?

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