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    Scott Voltage FR

    Wicked looking new bike buckoW - no wonder u have been so busy! getting some good press here in the uk - look perfect for the bike park and big hit slope style!

    Cant wait to get my hands on one for a spin!

    What are the travel ranges? God it looks good with a dual crown!



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    im very intersted to find more information about this bike but from what ive heard it soulds like with a 9.5x3 shock it has either 160 or 180 millimeters of tavel and with a 8.75x2.75 shock it has something like 150 or 170 and with an 8.5x2.5 shock it has 140 or 150 mm of travel. i found this video too

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    not sure if you have watched this yet so here ya go


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    Hey Guys,

    Yeah, I have been very busy lately building trails and testing bikes.
    here are a couple pics of my bikes with different setups.

    A couple action shots







    and some bike pics



















    and these bikes were geometry testing team only versions that helped us fine tune the geometry for different fork heights.



    I will get back here to better explain some of the setup options later but for now I gotta run.
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    Looks like I have another ride to buy

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    http://scottusa.com/us_en/product/82.../voltage_fr_10
    heres more information about these bikes

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    Cool - Aari running a voltage at this years worlds

    http://dirtmag.co.uk/news/category/v...t-1235658.html

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    me want. that thing would be awesome with a totem on it

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    a pitty that it only offers 180mm, because its much more beautiful than the gambler....

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    I dont really get it, The Scott Voltage FR has travel options from 135mm - 180mm, you will have to use different shocks?

    Are the travel options based on the eye to eye of the shock? means, I don't really have a versatile bike.

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    Short shock 130 - 150 - to go head to head with the Intense SS
    Long Shock 160 - 180 more of a DH FR rig

    Using the same shock to travel adjust more than an 30mm or so doesnt really work and there arent many bikes that offer that range of adjustment.

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    Karve, True. Not many bikes offer this kind of range on their travel. Actually I can't even name any.

    Anyone have any idea if this bike pedals well? Say well enought to take ono 10-15 miles of mixed terrain? Can it be converted into an all-mountain ride feel?

    Sorry if this sounds stupid.

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    i don't see any drawbacks to this bike. i bet in the 135 mode the bike would pedal very well with minimal bob being it can be set up for urban riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver
    i don't see any drawbacks to this bike. i bet in the 135 mode the bike would pedal very well with minimal bob being it can be set up for urban riding

    I agree. I don't see any draw back to this bike. But it just seems too good to be true. Am thinking of giving up my nomad 08' for this bike. But seeing that I had only owned the Nomad for a year and I'll lose a good part of money on the resale, am thinking twice. But another drawback is that I won't get to test the Voltage FR before ordering it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayng
    I agree. I don't see any draw back to this bike. But it just seems too good to be true. Am thinking of giving up my nomad 08' for this bike. But seeing that I had only owned the Nomad for a year and I'll lose a good part of money on the resale, am thinking twice. But another drawback is that I won't get to test the Voltage FR before ordering it in.
    Check out the geo - im not sure its going to be much of a pedaler? More of a down and over jumps bike - certainly a different product to the Nomad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayng
    Am thinking of giving up my nomad 08' for this bike
    The Ransom is Scott's equivalent to the Nomad. Pretty sure if you search through this Scott forum you'll find some picks of Buckow hitting some of the same air in the above shots but on an alloy Ransom.

    But I guess if you want more of a freeride bike this Voltage will suit you better. But I agree with Karve - don't know if it will satisfy your All Mountain needs. A bike designed for SS & FR wouldn't have uphill pedalling efficiency high on it's list of priorities.

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    nuclear powered is correct

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    nuclear_powered. Thanks. Just looks too awesome to pass, but maybe it will have to wait till my skill is on par with the bike.

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    Looks like a ridiculously versatile little bike

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    Gonna be a long winter, Just ordered the FR10

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    pimp dude

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    I haven't been able to get to my local Scott dealer yet so does anyone know what the optional dropouts and shock brackets will go for on the Voltage FR's? I doubt that all the different options are included with the bikes, but that would be great. Also what are the eye to eye lengths on the stock shocks on the three different models? I can't find this info on Scotts website. The bike looks sick and might just be the perfect bike for me. I have a Boxxer WC that I could throw on for DH at Whiteface and go with the stock Domain when I ride slopestyle and jumps at Diablo! I wasn't even considering a Scott until I caught this thread yesterday. Now I want one bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman
    I haven't been able to get to my local Scott dealer yet so does anyone know what the optional dropouts and shock brackets will go for on the Voltage FR's? I doubt that all the different options are included with the bikes, but that would be great. Also what are the eye to eye lengths on the stock shocks on the three different models? I can't find this info on Scotts website. The bike looks sick and might just be the perfect bike for me. I have a Boxxer WC that I could throw on for DH at Whiteface and go with the stock Domain when I ride slopestyle and jumps at Diablo! I wasn't even considering a Scott until I caught this thread yesterday. Now I want one bad!
    I believe the frameset is the only 1 that comes w/all the different shock mounts.. completes don't.. not sure on the pricing, but here's the shock lengths..

    FR10/FR20: 9.5 x 3.0
    FR30: 8.75 x 2.75
    Frame Only: 8.5 x 2.5
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    The FR10 should come with all 3 dropouts.

    There are aftermarket dropout kits and shock mount kits. You get all 3 shock mounts in one pack.

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    Thanks for the info. I'll make it to my local Scott dealer this week to find out more. Need to sell my XC bike before bringing another bike home or the wife will go nuts. Only rode the XC 3 times this year so I think it should go. Kyle Ebbett just built a dirt jump park 2 miles from my house in Wilmington, N.Y. so the XC bike will get even less use if thats possible. Time to put biking on hold and get set for snowboarding at Whiteface

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman
    Thanks for the info. I'll make it to my local Scott dealer this week to find out more. Need to sell my XC bike before bringing another bike home or the wife will go nuts. Only rode the XC 3 times this year so I think it should go. Kyle Ebbett just built a dirt jump park 2 miles from my house in Wilmington, N.Y. so the XC bike will get even less use if thats possible. Time to put biking on hold and get set for snowboarding at Whiteface
    Let me know if you have anymore questions about the bike and tell Kyle that Ben in Switzerland says hi if you see him.

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    Actually, I did have another question.....I thought you would know better than my dealer since you've ridden the Voltage FR. At 5'10" would you recommend the short or long frame. I'm leaning towards the short because I think it would be more flickable (is that a word) but I don't want to be cramped. Thanks for all your help! By the way, Kyle was supposed to be here last weekend to give some jump demo/lessons. Not sure if he was here or not, I was at Diablo for closing weekend. Kyle is supposed to be back for the official opening of the dirt jump park next spring. Next time you're stateside you should come up to the Lake Placid/Wilmington area of NY. With sick downhill at Whiteface, the new DJ park and lots of XC trails this is becoming a great destination area for MTBers. Heck, for 2010 we even have a World Cup DH a few hours south of us at Windham and the World Championship is in Canada just a couple hours north of us. This is the place to be

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    ragman - I'm 5'10", and have ordered a long. I found the short gambler far too small for my liking, and the long voltage fr has the same lengths as the long gambler

    from what I've seen and heard, teh small is more for dj stuff, and the longer more towards fr and dh stuff, but this does come down to personal tastes as well

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    I think 5'10" could go either way. If you plan on running a taller fork then the TT will feel shorter. Do you want room to move when you are pinning or do you want the most pop and easy manuals? At 6'1" I like the long for trails and the short for jumps.

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    Well I guess I need to decide exactly what it is I'm looking for. I'm on my way to my local dealer to see if they intend to get the Voltage FR to put on their floor. I'm in no hurry at this point - its snowing right now and its kind of hard to think bikes - but I'll try! Thanks to everyone for all the info.

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    Just so you guys know, these bikes are not readily available until march of 2010. If anyone is looking to try a voltage out in the Tahoe/Reno area Cylepaths will have a few available for demo at Northstar. The shop will be moving to a new location in downtown Truckee in the Tahoe Daves store location in April 2010.

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    Picked up mine last friday, posted some of my thoughts over @ PB, figured I'd pass along the good word..

    I got a Long FR30.. Honestly, pictures don't do it justice, it is the brightest green I think I've ever seen in my life. I'm not complaining, I dig it, but for any of those considering getting the FR30 and are hoping it's not as bright as it looks, well it's brighter than it looks, it shouldn't come with reflectors bright.
    Now onto the frame itself, another aspect I think will be appreciated better in person.. In pictures the frame/design looks pretty simple, tubing looks simple/straight same effect you get when looking at a bottlerocket. I dunno if the tubing is hyrdoformed or not, but it's look more shapely in person. Top tube has a cool divet(dunno wtf else to call) near the headtube/tt/downtube junction. For a $1700 bike it's very good looking. There are torque specs on every part of the frame that requires it. The ISCG tabs with both OLD ISCG and ISCG05 are a nice touch, and I'm surprised Scott was the first one to come up with this (to my knowledge).. I'll be switching out the cranks/chainguide, so i can get a better view.
    Unfortunetly I haven't gotten her out on the trails yet, just been tooling around in the streets, feels good. But I gotta swap the rear shock spring, to get a more realistic sag. I didn't really feel cramped, but I'm 6' 4" and used to bikes too small for me, so I'm a bad judge of sizing(plus haven't been on the trails yet).
    Swapped out a couple parts already, put on Ti gold/green special edition Sunline V1's, deity stem left over from my double, 55ATA, thomson seatpost, and my street wheelset(transition revolutions w/SB8s) I got a couple parts to swap over still(saint drivetrain, LG1+, etc).. I'm gonna weigh it after I finish swapping parts, and probably take some pictures as well.. Bike looks great though.. Can't wait to get on the trails.

    some good pics over here(of the FR10):
    http://dirtmountainbike.com/news/sco...tage-fr10.html

    EDIT: Did some quick maths, based on a 73.5 ST angle, and 567/419 Stack/Reach, the effective top tube is 587mm for a Long.
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    Still waiting on that ride report and pics Capt. S! If you get a chance throw that bike on a scale too. Thanks

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    I posted over on PB, I'll copy and paste my thoughts over here..


    I got out for a ride on her yesterday.. Not the terrain I expect to be riding the bike on, but once the lifts close for the winter my options for fun, flowy and most importantly close trails is very limited. I'm used to riding these trails on my DH bike, and it's truly the best tool on this terrain. Give you an example, here's part of one of the trails:

    I didn't have time to switch out my tires so I was running the SB8's which were a real sketchy anytime I need to use my brakes descending the steep leaf covered rocky chutes. I spent the first run tweaking the suspension, first time on the 55 ATA, got it decently setup, still need to play w/the air pressure. First impressions, the bike has a real active feel, it feels like it has less travel than it actually does(in a good way), it's easy to move around, pop off rocks, tracks well also, I was able to switch direction better than I expected(again coming off my dual crown dh bike). The stock Roco is noisy (you can heard it blowing off over bigger rocks/bumps), to add to that I think having the manitou spring on a Marzocchi shock was creating some extra noise. The bike also has an almost uncanny way of settling into the mid of the travel and kinda just staying there, u can almost see it when u set the sag for the bike and start bouncing on it. I usually get hung up at least once on the rocks @ these trails on my dh bike, but I didn't hit once, makes me think it's staying higher in the travel as I thought. I'd like to get some more seat time before I make any more assessments, but initial impressions are good. I'd like to get the Swinger on, just to see what a difference the shock can make. Heading to my bro's place this weekend, trails by him are better suited for fun bikes

    @ the top, w/a nice view:



    as for the weight as shown she weighs in at 35.6lbs. If you go off Scott's website and the stock build it should be a bit lighter than that w/my current build, but they probably based the weighs on the Short not the Long.
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    Rad. buckoW, do you have final geo numbers for the bike with a 8.75" shock with the 9.5" mount? You mentioned somewhere (RM?) that that was a possibility to get the bike lower and slacker.

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    i wanna know how it rides with the 40 on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardtails Are Better
    Rad. buckoW, do you have final geo numbers for the bike with a 8.75" shock with the 9.5" mount? You mentioned somewhere (RM?) that that was a possibility to get the bike lower and slacker.
    With a Fox 36 fork the bb height is 330mm with a head angle of 65. With the 40 it is somewhere around a 345mm bb height and a 64 HA. I mainly ride the bike with the lower settings in all travel modes. I like the 200mm i2i shock with the 215 mounts, the 215mm i2i shock with the 222 mounts and the 222mm i2i shock with the 240 mounts. When I have to pedal a lot or clearance is an issue I run the normal mounts. Really rocky trails I run the 240mm i2i shock for the low leverage ratio which rolls over the rough stuff really well. I change it up a lot depending on the trail.

    ^^^It feels awesome with the 40^ but I prefer the long frame for that kind of riding. The short top tube gets kinda too short for me when the front end is lifted up with the 40.

    For me, the coolest thing about this bike is the super low leverage ratio. It really resists the compressive forces of lips, berms and the repeated hits in rock gardens so it pops very well and rolls over rough terrain fast. Any of the shock configurations has a super low leverage ratio and really helps the bike deal with aggressive riding.


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    This is what my short one looks like now


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    damnit, I just want mine to come in already! Also, I want some more cash so I can get a float 36, an rp23 and a 40 for it

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    Wow, triple post

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    again, wow

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    lets see your long bucko

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    sorry for the bad quality pic but here she is.



    I just took off the 40 to try out a new tune on the 36.

    On another note, I put the short dropouts from the Voltage FR on the Voltage and that gives me 375mm or 14.7" chainstay length with gears. So fun to ride it like this!


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    the voltage will be my next bike for sure

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    I'm wondering about short or long bike. I'm going to put a 200mm fork on and use it for dh. I'm 174cm. What do you think?

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    long for shure

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver
    long for shure
    Yep.

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    Ok. Tank you

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    so whats teh chain growth like on the bike? Just wondering because they are specc'd with medium cage and not short like I would have thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Pitbull
    so whats teh chain growth like on the bike? Just wondering because they are specc'd with medium cage and not short like I would have thought
    There is not much chain growth. I think the medium cage is spec-ed to keep the cost down. I don't know but I will ask.

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    couple questions for you, Ben... I am 5'11" and plan to use this for some dh, though some freeride and dj as well. I am leaning towards the long, though am not sure if I will run a triple crown fork - most likely the domain for now, then maybe some other 180mm single crown fork in the future. will a long feel too long for dj and freeride/trail? i do have a dedicated dj hardtail - a rocky mtn dj flow in medium to be exact and i really like the feel. i also ride a santa cruz chameleon with a 140mm pike in large which i have been using as my dh bike (not the best tool for the job, though has taught me a lot about picking lines). at times it feels a bit too big, though mostly because of the standover of this as it is a large. this is why i want to get this bike - the voltage fr - for the more aggressive, dh, freeride stuff (i.e. diablo freeride park)

    also, i am having trouble deciding between the fr 30 and the 20. is the domain that they are stocking on these two bikes different? some of the pictures of the 20 look as though there is the blue compression adjuster knob on the top of the right fork leg, while i do not see it on some other photos. also, i do not see a taco or bashring on the 30.. i looked up the e13 ls1 that it supposedly comes with and it says you cannot attach a taco. could you mount a bashring and still run this ls1? i really like the green and white colors of the 30, though think the plus of the taco, compression knob (if it actually has it), and slightly better shock make me like the 20. on the otherhand, if i got the 30 (for the color and price savings), i could probably upgrade bash, shock, and fork in the future

    i read all of your posts on pink bike and on here about this frame, though still have these questions. your help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Hey Sam

    I would get the 20. They are close enough in price but big difference in performance. You get the 240mm i2i Van with the 20 as well. You are right about the E13 guide on the 30 and sizing is really up to you. I think you would be fine on the small but if you want it to be stable on the DH type stuff then go for the long. You can run the shorter rear dropouts if the bike is feeling slow to lift the front wheel. The Coastal Crew guys and James Doerfling are all on shorts and they ride them pretty hard. It depends if you want a very trickable slope bike of a DH worthy trail machine. It is more about what you want to ride then how tall you are.

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    Thanks Ben for such a quick response! Makes sense to go with the 20 - price really is pretty close and less upgrades that I would want to do out of the box. The extra travel and better shock alone are worth it. Still have to think about the sizing. Before I discovered this bike, I we considering either a Santa Cruz Bullit or KHS Lucky 7 (both in medium), though really like the adjustability of the Voltage FR more plus the lower standover and just the overall design seems more suited to my riding style. I have been working on larger drops and bigger doubles and have starting throwing in some basic tricks - tabletops, x-ups, and tailwhips, though am not at the point of doing flips or spins yet. So not quite riding true big mountain slopestyle, though would be riding a fair amount of lift-accessed dh runs. Thinking the long is the way to go, as when I am focusing more on tricks and jumps, I have my hardtail. I am guessing the FR 20 does not come with the extra drop-outs? Are these available yet? Don't see any info anywhere about it.

    Thanks again for all of your help.

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    No problem.

    You have to order the dropouts from a Scott Dealer. They have catalogs which are not available for consumers with all the little parts and accessories. You want the -10mm dropouts if you go with the long to keep it very flickable. I am 6'1" and run the long with medium dropouts for trails and dh runs and a short with short dropouts for jumping and playing around.

    Here is some more info on the bike

    http://scott-sports.com/gb_en/video/...the_voltage_fr

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    Found out there is a Scott dealer not too far from where I live here in Brooklyn - will pay them a visit soon. Maybe they have the bike in their shop that I could try to help me decide between the two sizes.

    Watched that video the other day - found it helpful, thanks!

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    Didn't get to visit the Scott dealer in Brooklyn yet, but after talking with some friends, sounds like they only stock road bikes. When I recover from this swine flu, I may check out this place in Manhattan that is supposed to be a Scott dealer, even though they aren't listed on Scott's dealer locator. Been doing some comparisons of the wheelbase of the long and short versus the wheelbase of other bikes I have been looking at.

    the voltage fr has a wheelbase of 44.7" (1135mm) for the short with a 180mm fork or 45.5" (1155mm) for the long with a 180mm fork. with the 160mm fork its just .2" (4mm) shorter for both sizes.

    the santa cruz bullit with a 560 a2c fork (approx 180mm fork) has a 43.2" wheelbase in the medium and a 44.5" for the large.

    the sc chameleon (one of my current rides) has a 43.4" wb in large with a 140mm fork, which is what I have been riding at diablo and have found it to be stable imo.

    granted these are all very different bikes, i am just trying to grasp the difference between the long and short compared to what i am used to.

    i am sure my rocky mtn dj bike has a way shorter wb, especially with the rear wheel slammed at a 15.9" cs length and a 100mm fork. so guess i am kind of used to a short, flickable bike - never owned a true dh rig, though have ridden some of my friends such as a norco a-line and sc super 8, which just felt like a whole different world to me.

    so guess what i am saying is that i am pretty set on the short. watched some videos of Doerfling riding some pretty gnarly trails with some steep dh sections on his short voltage fr, and am feeling more confident with the my decision. have a few weeks before i make the purchase, though cannot wait - been excited to get a dually for a while now.

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    Hi sjsielen, I'm also thinking about the Voltage FR. I finally got to my local Scott dealer yesterday here in Lake Placid. They don't stock the bike and as of now will only do a special order. So much for seeing the bike. There is another dealer about 45 miles away so I'll give them a call. I'm 5'10" and was leaning towards the short. I also ride Diablo and wanted something more flickable then my current DH bike which is a Iron Horse Yakuza Kumicho. The bike actually handles the DH at Whiteface pretty well for my needs but at Diablo it feels a little heavy and has no pop off the jumps. I'm sure its more me than the bike though. The wb on my med. Kumicho is about the same as the long Voltage which is why I was leaning towards the short. Still not sure if I can swing the cost of the Voltage right now. I intended to sell my XC bike to pay for the Scott, but I'm thinking of keeping the XC now. I also have an Eastern Thunderbird DJ bike which I have to try at Diablo - it should be fun on Dominion and the 1X course. Keep the posts coming - I'd like to know what you wind up with.

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    hey ragman, been researching various bikes for the past couple of months, and the voltage fr seems to make the most sense to me. theres a lot of useful info on this thread as well:

    http://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listco...521&pagenum=32

    buckoW or Ben, helped develop this bike with Scott and seems to know a lot about it. He has been really helpful, and if there are any questions that others cannot answer, I am sure he will be able to.

    Was just up in Lake Placid and the Adirondacks in November doing some hiking with my girlfriend. Climbed mount snow and got about 4700 feet up mount marcy when we decided not to go any further as every surface was covered in ice. the views were amazing! theres a lot of potential for some serious dh courses and freeriding up there.

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    BuckoW has already answered several of my questions - was very helpful. I also follow Pinkbike and found alot of info on the Voltage there. I really think the Voltage would be an ideal bike for Diablo - don't know if you saw the write-up in Decline but you should check it out if not.

    I do the same thing when hiking the mountains here - I'm always thinking how sweet it would be to ride down. But the good thing is we have Whiteface Mtn. that has a Gondola to the top - no hike a bike. By the way, most mtns are off limits to bikes, pedal or motorized. There are also some great XC trails and a new dirt jump park so you need to get back here during bike season. I know I'm getting off topic here but check out www.downhillmike.com for info on riding Whiteface.

    Even more off topic: I also have a house on L.I. and just started going to Diablo last fall and loved it. Different than Whiteface but both are great. Diablo opens a lot earlier than Whiteface so I'll be there in May - can't wait!

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    Hey Guys

    When thinking about wheelbases don't forget that you have 3 different chainstay lengths with the 12mm IDS dropouts. You can go a cm shorter or longer to suit your riding styles.

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    Will have to look for that issue of Decline, thanks for informing me about that.

    One of my friends here has talked about Whiteface, so hoping to make some trips up there this coming season. New to the east coast, so still learning a lot about places to ride. Come from the midwest, where its so flat, so everything was all about XC. Used to race xc for a couple years, though always had a passion for freeriding. Did some crazy stuff on superlight xc machines.

    Anyways, I am also anxious to get back to Diablo, especially since i will have a dually by then.

    Oh and of course I wouldn't think of riding in those places where i was hiking, just thought the terrain would be suited for it - would really be a pain doing the hike a bike thing anyways. Look forward to this season and thanks for all the tips!

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    Good point about the IDS droputs, plan to pickup both longer and shorter ones once I have the bike. Also just did some so research on the Hope Pro II hubs that I used when building my wheels. Turns out they have a conversion kit to go from 135 9mm qr to 135 12mm thru axel. Have the kits for my front hubs, just hadnt previously seen the ones for the rear. Excited that I'll be able to have some extra wheels!

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    Hey buckoW,

    Sorry for the question but I haven't seen the answer anywhere. I plan to get the Voltage FR frame kit and mount a Rock Shox Pike on it at first. Could you please tell me what would be the head angle when the rear suspension is set to 135 mm and when it is set to 150 mm please ?

    Many thanks in advance.
    Scott and you did a great job on this bike

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    Hey RayFoon

    No problem. The head angle doesn't change between the 2 travel options and with a Pike it is around 67.

    Don't worry about asking questions about the Voltage. I don't mind answering them.

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    Buckow - I am pretty much sold on replacing my Wildcard with the Voltage. With the Wildcard I would need to change springs when changing travel settings using the same shock. Is this the same on the Voltage? What sag do you recommend for the Voltage using it mostly slope/shore style riding on moderatley groomed trails. This will be my initial setup since I have the more vertical and rougher trails covered. I would like to run it in 135/150mm travel but I believe the frame will come with the longer shock which means I will probably have to run it in 160mm till I sort a sorter shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan pablo
    Buckow - I am pretty much sold on replacing my Wildcard with the Voltage. With the Wildcard I would need to change springs when changing travel settings using the same shock. Is this the same on the Voltage? What sag do you recommend for the Voltage using it mostly slope/shore style riding on moderatley groomed trails. This will be my initial setup since I have the more vertical and rougher trails covered. I would like to run it in 135/150mm travel but I believe the frame will come with the longer shock which means I will probably have to run it in 160mm till I sort a sorter shock.
    You'll have to change springs if you change the travel on any bike using the same shock. The reason the travel changes is that the leverage ratio changes. Changing the leverage ratio means you need to change springs.

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    Cheers, HAB. I havent seen any info on changing springs.

    I see the frame I am looking at in the UK comes with RP23 and is the short travel option with 0mm drop outs, -10mm dropouts and long shock mount. So its pretty much ideal for my initial setup plans and WIldcard replacement. The weight seems high on their site with listed 9.4lbs without shock.

    Can anyone confirm the frame weight with/without shock? If you list weight with shock let me know if its air or coil. I would like this build to be competitive with my Wildcard which comes in at 35/36lbs with DHX5 air, 36RC2 and standar kit.

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    Hey Juan Pablo

    The frame is 7.48 lbs or 3.4 kilos without shock. The frame only comes with a RP23 boost valve custom tuned for the frame.

    When I run the coil shock I have the spring rate set up for traction on dh stuff at 180mm of travel. Then when I change travel settings to 160 mm it is usually for jumping so the stiffer feeling spring rate works better for popping off jumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckoW
    Hey Juan Pablo

    The frame is 7.48 lbs or 3.4 kilos without shock. The frame only comes with a RP23 boost valve custom tuned for the frame.

    When I run the coil shock I have the spring rate set up for traction on dh stuff at 180mm of travel. Then when I change travel settings to 160 mm it is usually for jumping so the stiffer feeling spring rate works better for popping off jumps.

    what sag are you running @ 180 for dh stuff?

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    It depends. 30% ish. I also run a 222mm i2i shock with the 240 mounts and a lot of compression. It depends on where I am riding. Some trails are steep and drifty and others have loads of technical rock sections.

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    First Voltage Fr's showed up at the shop, 2 FR 30's, a short and a long

    I wish February would hurry up so I can build my 10

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    ..any news ?

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    Hey guys, I'm really interested in this bike, and I'm gonna switch the frame for my Uzzi vpx frame. But I was wondering if it's at all possible to make the travel longer on the voltage? Or is 180 the largest it gets.

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    its 180 max travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain spaulding
    I believe the frameset is the only 1 that comes w/all the different shock mounts.. completes don't.. not sure on the pricing, but here's the shock lengths..

    FR10/FR20: 9.5 x 3.0
    FR30: 8.75 x 2.75
    Frame Only: 8.5 x 2.5
    where did you find out the stroke lengths of the shocks? maybe I missed it.

    not that i doubt you, just wondering, thanks

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    He is right about the shock lengths. Good question as to where the Captain got that info. I tried to find a link but I guess it is not mentioned on the website.

    Anyways, here is another pic of me on the Voltage FR on a trail I built in Morgins, Switzerland.



    Here is another one in a park I built in Monte Tamaro, Switzerland.


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    Is it possible to install front derailleur like Shimano SLX Conventional M667 ( http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=27692 ) to this frame?

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    Hey Ben,

    useful info here for plenty of hopeful converts over to the Voltage FR.

    Our Voltage FR framesets are on their way to us and I have to order in with Fox.

    We're going to set the FR 10's up with 2 options.. Whistler DH and Squamish FR.
    Figure on a 40 and DHX coil for DH and stick with the frameset supplied RP23 for FR days... the question is, for the FR setup fork.. 36 Float or Vanilla?

    I'm almost thinking the frame suits 3 options:
    40/DHX
    36 Van/DHX air
    36 Float/RP23

    Ultimately, I'll end up with a Spark (race only) and a Genius (trail/training) and give up the ransom carbon.. so what are your thoughts on which 2 fork/shock combos would be best? to cover all bases?

    Thanks

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    Gamber vs Voltage FR??

    Hi Ben and anyone else who can help,

    I'm considering buying the Scott Voltage FR 20, and sticking some Boxxer Teams on it.
    I want to do predominently DH riding, but on the odd few days I may want to try some SS. I have an 07 Ransom 30 so I could just swap the Fox Van 36's onto it for that.

    I'm in a predicament because I will be using it for DH most of the time.

    Do you think I will be better off with a Gambler? I was put off a little bit by the Gambler because of its monsterous weight which was another plus for the lighter Voltage.

    What should I do? I need to more info to weigh up the pros and cons of each.

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    I rode a few laps on a FR10 in Whistler last year when it was up for crankworx. I rode the bike on the more techy trails on the park and it was pretty fun. I enjoyed the weight bonus over the Gambler and found was still nice and plush and felt solid.
    I only ride 15 days a season on the bike park so weight/durability isn't a big issue for me. Our guides ride 90+ hard days so they're sticking on the Gamblers whereas some guides who are 'lighter' on their bikes will be on Voltage FR's.
    For my riding, the Voltage FR makes sense as its so much more versatile.. like you say, chuck van on for SS, boxxers for DH.

    I've opted for 40's/RC4 for DH days, 36float/RP23 for shuttle days.

    Gambler's still a great DH bike though and I challenge you to break anything on it. Our guides who were riding 90+ days each had zero failures all season - and that's Whistler bike park riding!

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    Bearback - what travel setting you running out back when using the RP23/Foat setup? How much sag do you run?
    I am seriously looking to change my Wildcard for a Voltage FR as my Wildcard is a touch too small for all round usage. I figured I may as well try the Voltage than get the Wildcard in Large. I generaly run the Wildcard only in 5" rear setting fitted with a DHX air and a
    36RC2 up front. Currently I am only using the bike for riding my yard which has a small pump track, couple DJs and some slope style stuff. The 5" is sufficient for sure but I would prefer a coil shock and the option to switch to 6.5" setting which would also allow me to ride rougher trails and handle that crappy midstoke issue that plagues the DHX. Again I dont want to spend the dough on a shock when I am thinking about changing the frame. I would like to try the WIldcard in large with a coil shock to see how it feels on rougher ground and just to be fair to the bike since I really like everything about it otherwise. Scott seems to have nailed it with the Voltage but I am curious for ride reviews on how it feels with RP23/36 setup for rougher lines? I know it will be ace on jumps drops and through corners but I am interested to hear how much more plush it may be than the Wildcard so I know if it will be more versatile. I have heard great things about the Rp23 over the DHX air so thats a plus. Currently I have a Maelstrom for freeride and DH after giving up on trying to pedal 180mm of travel and 41lbs of weight and trying to do AM rides on it. The hardtail has now been given to AM rides but I am looking to use the Voltage for AM rides that have gnarly downs and I actualy see myself down sizing to the hardtail with something like the Voltage and that means the Voltage will have to cover freeride and mellow DH runs. I love the versatility of travel and fork options but I really enjoy 160mm up front with 125-160mm out back with a around 36lbs of weight, thats when I seem to have the most fun.
    I am looking at the FR frame so I get the spare shock mount and 0mm/-10mm dropouts. If I move to a location that has gnarly DH I will fit an appropriate fork and rear shock to suit, hence the investment in this multipurpose bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearback
    Hey Ben,

    useful info here for plenty of hopeful converts over to the Voltage FR.

    Our Voltage FR framesets are on their way to us and I have to order in with Fox.

    We're going to set the FR 10's up with 2 options.. Whistler DH and Squamish FR.
    Figure on a 40 and DHX coil for DH and stick with the frameset supplied RP23 for FR days... the question is, for the FR setup fork.. 36 Float or Vanilla?

    I'm almost thinking the frame suits 3 options:
    40/DHX
    36 Van/DHX air
    36 Float/RP23

    Ultimately, I'll end up with a Spark (race only) and a Genius (trail/training) and give up the ransom carbon.. so what are your thoughts on which 2 fork/shock combos would be best? to cover all bases?

    Thanks

    Jonny - Bear Back Biking
    Hey Jonny

    40 Setup:
    I like to run the 240mm or the 222mm i2i RC4 with the 240 mounts with a 40. The 222mm i2i in the 240 mounts drops the bb to around 330mm and a 64 head angle. That is sometimes too low but sometimes super fun.

    36 Van Setup:
    I like to run the 36 Van with a 240 or 222mm i2i in the 240 mounts. Same as before but sometimes it is too low for really rocky trails. Other times it is a very fast and fun setup.

    36 Talas or Float Setup:
    I run the 215mm i2i RP23 with 135 or 150mm of rear travel and the fork at either 130mm or 160mm. The new boost Valve RP23 is surprisingly capable and was custom tuned for the bike. You can still really pin it with this setup. I also run a 200mm i2i DHX air to drop the bb for a very mini dh bike.

    There are lots of sweet riding setups. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyries Ride
    Hi Ben and anyone else who can help,

    I'm considering buying the Scott Voltage FR 20, and sticking some Boxxer Teams on it.
    I want to do predominently DH riding, but on the odd few days I may want to try some SS. I have an 07 Ransom 30 so I could just swap the Fox Van 36's onto it for that.

    I'm in a predicament because I will be using it for DH most of the time.

    Do you think I will be better off with a Gambler? I was put off a little bit by the Gambler because of its monsterous weight which was another plus for the lighter Voltage.

    What should I do? I need to more info to weigh up the pros and cons of each.
    I ride a lot of bike park and my Gambler is the work horse and I know I can really lay into corners and G-outs. I also never had a problems with my Voltage FR when hard downhilling but if I want to get really loose and hit rough stuff flat out then I choose the Gambler. I can still ride the Voltage FR fast but on stuff like the Champery WC DH track the Gambler is in it's element and with the Voltage I have to pick smoother lines.

    I have my Gambler at just under 40 lbs. The frame is really stiff and was designed to get ridden hard all summer long in a bike park. It really depends on what you do and how you do it. For me the two bikes are complimentary and when I want to hit lots of jumps and singkletrack then I take the Voltage and when things get rough and you really have to nail your line then the Gambler is my bike of choice.

    It is hard for me to recommend which one because I don't know your trails. If they are fast and drifty with not too many rock gardens the the Voltage works great. If the trail obstacles start to get axle high then the Gambler lets you take some rowdier lines.

    pure DH = Gambler

    almost everything else = Voltage FR

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    Ben, I see you are running Stylo cranks on some of your bikes - the Voltage and Voltage FR. I run this crankset on all of my bikes. I used to use the ISIS version - now I use the GXP and have been very happy with this setup. The bb cups require little to no maintenance and overall seems to be a good balance between strength and weight. I was happy to see the Voltage FR has a 73mm shell and 135 rear axel so that I could still use this crankset. In looking at the photos of the Howitzer XR bb that the FR 20 comes with, I see the cups appear to be wider than GXP cups. Will I just have to compensate for this with spacers on the GXP setup? If so, how many on each side? Obviously chainline is important, so I do not want to throw that off. Dont have my FR 20 yet - its on order though, so would like to have the parts ready that I may swap. Which will probably just be the crank and tires for starters. Will hang on to the tires for more dh stuff, though probably will throw some lighter fr tires on.

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    The howitzer bb has it's own axle and is not compatible with the Stylos. You need the Stylo specific bb. When is your bike supposed to come?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckoW
    The howitzer bb has it's own axle and is not compatible with the Stylos. You need the Stylo specific bb. When is your bike supposed to come?
    I understand that much, I guess I am wondering if I use the Stylo and its specific bb (the GXP bb), do I need to use spacers to get the chainline correct?

    Bike is estimated to be delivered on the 19th of this month - cant wait - tho recovering from a broken metacarpal in my left hand so cant ride for at least another week or 2 anyways.

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    I just mounted it up with the recommended setup and didn't notice any issues. I try and not run too many spacers if I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckoW
    I just mounted it up with the recommended setup and didn't notice any issues. I try and not run too many spacers if I can.
    Cool, thats what I was hoping - yea as far as spacers, I feel the same way.

    Thanks for the quick responses once again!

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    anyone know if this frame uses an a-tune or a b-tune rear shock? i doubt its c-tune.. my guess is a-

    figure you might know ben.. and is that even something to worry about if swapping rear shocks?
    Last edited by sjsielen; 02-11-2010 at 04:55 PM.

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    CC chatting about their bikes here

    http://nsmb.com/3526-coastal-crew-bike-check/

    Good examples of the short travel setup - mental to have a frame you can run with a 130 revelation one day then a fox 40 the next - mint

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    here is another video of the Voltage in action. Norby and Semenuk are shredding!

    http://www.pinkbike.com/news/coastal...sode-2010.html


    sjsielen,

    You would need the tune for the very low leverage ratio. I think it is the A but I don't remember.

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    I have been narrowing my decisions for the past 2 months. Finaly settle on the Voltage and spent the whole day on the phone only to find out there are no frames available in all of Europe. Anyone know a dealer who would ship international - South Korea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckoW

    sjsielen,

    You would need the tune for the very low leverage ratio. I think it is the A but I don't remember.
    Thanks, thats what I thought, though there doesnt seem to be much mention of tuning of shocks when i see them listed for retail - only do i notice it when I see someone selling a shock that they pulled off a bike.

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    Posting this for a non member friend.

    My current bike is too small/not enough travel, so I'm looking to get a new bike for the summer...

    Something that I'm very interested in at the moment is a Scott voltage in long - but an idea I've seen that looked very nice is running it with triples?

    The Geo works out at a 65deg headangle and 14.4" BB with 180mm singles, I believe the axle to crown on 180mm singles and 200mm triples is practically identical? So the Geo won't be a problem, but will there be any other problems with running triple crowns?

    At the moment, I'm mainly riding downhill, but nothing particularly rough, (although, I may be heading out to Morzine for a week in the summer) - what benefits, if any, would I get from getting a DH bike over the voltage?

    If anyone has any experience riding the voltage, or any other suggestions for under around 1500 new or 1000 used, that'd also be a great help.

    He currently rides a Norco XXXX and he's looking at the Voltage for the travel versatility, and basically wants to know if there are alternatives. Or should he go with his gut feeling and get the Scott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckoW
    Hey Jonny
    There are lots of sweet riding setups. Let me know if you have any more questions.
    Hey Ben,

    Got our stuff through from Fox today, DHXRC4's for the Voltage FR frames and we'd also ordered an RP23 and an DHX Air (+rp23 air sleeve kit) for our guide Ransoms. The DHX was miss shipped and we got a 8.75 as opposed to a 9.5 i2i... what are your thoughts on running a 222mm i2i on the Voltage rather than the oem RP23?

    Or, better off sticking with RP23 and DHX coil for Voltage and swapping the DHX air for the right size to fit the ransom?

    Cheers - I only ask as I'm sure you've tried almost every frame shock set-up

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    I like the 222mm i2i a lot because I can ride the 222 mounts and carry the 240 mounts in my pack and have a high or low bb setup depending on terrain. I usually do this when I run a tall fork like the 40. I run the 222mm i2i DHX air shock a lot actually. It works very well with a Talas so you can run long or short travel with a high or low bb.

    The RC4 in a 240mm i2i gives you a better quality of travel and have a little more ramp up at end stroke. I like both the 240mm and 222mm. It is hard to say without knowing what fork you want to run.

    The 215 i2i shock with the 215 mounts is more of a rising linear type suspension so it works well for all mountain/freeride and when you put a lot of pressure in the shock it works very well for jumps and slopestyle.

    I like the DHX air more for the Ransom than the RP23 because you have more places to make it ramp up. The Ransom's linkage was designed for a very progressive air shock and the DHX air is easily tuneable to get more progression.

    Hope that helps.

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    Anyone tried a Hammerschmidt on the Voltage FR yet? It's a smaller ring than the bike was designed around so how bad is the feedback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olga_icannot
    Anyone tried a Hammerschmidt on the Voltage FR yet? It's a smaller ring than the bike was designed around so how bad is the feedback?
    I have ridden a test bike with one and the feedback is not bad at all. The pivot was designed around a 34T chainring so it is not too high and pedals pretty well with a Hammerschmidt. I ordered one and am looking forward to mounting it up.

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    bucko - I installed a stylo crankset as you have, though did not ride at all with it, as the left crank arm was barely 2-3mm away from the left chainstay. what is your experience with this? i know you said you dont run any spacers, which placing one on the non-drive side, is only going to bring drive side crank arm closer to the chain stay.

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    new voltageFR is sick bike.
    And what is the retail price of frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjsielen
    bucko - I installed a stylo crankset as you have, though did not ride at all with it, as the left crank arm was barely 2-3mm away from the left chainstay. what is your experience with this? i know you said you dont run any spacers, which placing one on the non-drive side, is only going to bring drive side crank arm closer to the chain stay.
    Hmmm, sounds weird. I have one spacer on the drive side and my Stylo OCT crank arms clear the chain stays fine. There is around 4mm on both sides from the thickest part of the chain stays.

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