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    First off, thanks so much for your continued input in this thread Buck, it's the one i keep coming back to as I plan my pie-in-the-sky Voltage build.

    The different shock mounts, where might one go about sourcing a set?
    Ditto for the different dropouts, assuming they are not included with each 'type' of frame (10/20 vs 30 vs frame only)
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    shock mounts and dropouts - scott dealers can get them for you

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    hey ben, got a question

    when you run the 200mm e2e with the 215 mounts, what kind of head angle do you wind up with (and what fork at the time)

    just wondering, as I've got a DHX kicking around that I could mount up

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Pitbull
    hey ben, got a question

    when you run the 200mm e2e with the 215 mounts, what kind of head angle do you wind up with (and what fork at the time)

    just wondering, as I've got a DHX kicking around that I could mount up
    With a 130mm fork that gives me a 66° head angle and 110mm of travel in the back. Lately I have been running a +2° eccentric headset putting the head angle at 68° for the jumps. It works nice as a 110mm travel bike like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckoW
    With a 130mm fork that gives me a 66° head angle and 110mm of travel in the back. Lately I have been running a +2° eccentric headset putting the head angle at 68° for the jumps. It works nice as a 110mm travel bike like that.
    given that I only have the VAN 36, that would leave me a little on the slack side of things

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Pitbull
    given that I only have the VAN 36, that would leave me a little on the slack side of things
    It is fun for mini dh like that and is very slack. I have a bigger travel one with a Van 36 where I set it up low and slack but with 160mm front and 150mm back. But that is with the 222mm mounts and the 215mm shock.

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    I got my FR20 yesterday, went riding and I love it! the only minor problem I have, so to speak, is the bolt up rear end (as I had to remove my rear wheel to get it into a friend's car). I am thinking of going down the rear maxle route. Could anyone give me a rough idea of how much the maxle drop outs would cost me? Thanks, Ryan.

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    Even if you were dealing with horizontal dropouts -which you aren't- it's not that big a hassle to undo a bolt-on rear wheel.
    Maxle it if you feel the need to drop some cash, I guess.

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    I just think maybe un-doing the rear end may increase the chances of rounding the axle bolts off. Having a maxle would make things a whole lot easier. I just want to know roughly how much the specific drop outs are really. Maybe Ben would know?..

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    if you round out those bolts, then you shouldnt handle allen keys. Pretty good system IMO

    however, I've now gone through both tubes Front was killed 2nd ride, pinch flatted, and not sure about the rear, but it is likey from glass. (4th ride)

    however, the above was done with single ply betties on, not the DH ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan_ransom
    I got my FR20 yesterday, went riding and I love it! the only minor problem I have, so to speak, is the bolt up rear end (as I had to remove my rear wheel to get it into a friend's car). I am thinking of going down the rear maxle route. Could anyone give me a rough idea of how much the maxle drop outs would cost me? Thanks, Ryan.
    Yes I have found the axle to be very tight in the Formula rear hub. I tried the axle in the 12mm Hope Pro II conversion kit (yet to be swapped with qr axle that is in this my Pro II hub hub) and it slides in and out very smoothly. Have to use a mallet to remove the axle from the formula hub. Is this right? Was also considering the maxle for this reason.

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    Hey guys,

    I ran the Maxle system for a while but my axle kept coming loose on trails with a lot of cornering. No matter how much I tightened it, it always came loose after 3 or more runs. I don't know how much they cost because I don't like them very much.

    sjsielen: The tight axle is not normal. I will ask.

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    Short or Long

    Hey, got a few problems in picking up the size of the voltage fr bike. I`m 5.90(180cm) and weigh about 180pounds (83-85kg). Until now i`ve only been playing around with my hardtail which was a medium, pretty fun. Thing is i intend to use this one for DH and fr,maybe going for a 200mm fork later, so i`m pretty unsure about picking the small one. Any advices would come in handy.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardtails Are Better
    You'll have to change springs if you change the travel on any bike using the same shock. The reason the travel changes is that the leverage ratio changes. Changing the leverage ratio means you need to change springs.

    Hey guys. I know this may come a little too late. But I was reading through the posts and has anyone actually changed the travel settings without changing/switching springs?

    e.g. Change from 170mm to 150mm without changing springs.

    And If I want shorter travel, could I just use an air shock to save money on buying additional springs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayng
    Hey guys. I know this may come a little too late. But I was reading through the posts and has anyone actually changed the travel settings without changing/switching springs?

    e.g. Change from 170mm to 150mm without changing springs.

    And If I want shorter travel, could I just use an air shock to save money on buying additional springs?
    I use an air shock pretty often with the Voltage FR and it works very well. You can change travel with out changing springs and the lesser travel hole will give you firmer travel with the same spring. It works well for jumping when the suspension is stiffer.

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    BuckoW, Thanks for the information.

    Anyone happen to know if Scott will be releasing a 2011 version for the Voltage FR?

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    Hi,
    I have the same problem with rear axle. Need a mallet to extract it from the hub.
    A bit heavy in the camelback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayng
    BuckoW, Thanks for the information.

    Anyone happen to know if Scott will be releasing a 2011 version for the Voltage FR?

    yes they will

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    Which shock upgrade for FR30

    Hey guys,
    just changed over to an FR30 from a Commencal Supreme DH as I needed a more all round bike.
    I originally looked at an SX trail, Bullitt or Wildcard, I hand never seen or even heard of the Voltage FR.
    luckily I went to a shop I don't normally use and saw the FR30, a quick ride later and I was sold. The bike rides great and fits everything I was looking for and at a great price.
    So far I have swapped out the bars to a spare pair of Sunline V1's I had and changed the pedals to some Wellgo MG1's (dirt cheap, will see how they hold up, so far they have been great).
    I have also fitted the Mo-Co cartridge to the Domains, really suprised how good these forks feel when they have broken in (I was always a zocchi fan).
    My only area of concern is the stock Roco, I have had one of these in the past and changed it quickly due to it constantly leaking. I also find it blows through its travel quickly even after changing the spring to 450lb (I think adjustable compression is the only way forward).

    What Coil Shock is best suited to the Voltage for all round riding?
    I have spent considerable time on the following:-
    DHX5 on a Cove G-Spot
    Pushed DHX 5 on a Cove G-Spot (far superior to stock but exspensive).
    Rock Shox Vivid on a Commencal Supreme DH (almost as good as the Pushed DHX).

    I have never ridden a Manitou shock but I see Revox's cheap all the time.
    I have looked at a Pushed Van R as a cheapish upgrade (TFTuned rate these very highly as fit and forget shocks)

    Any unbiased advice/opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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    Does anybody know where I can get a FR 30 in Socal? Or even a place that can ship it here. Thanks...


    Never mind, found one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casca noir
    Hey guys,
    just changed over to an FR30 from a Commencal Supreme DH as I needed a more all round bike.
    I originally looked at an SX trail, Bullitt or Wildcard, I hand never seen or even heard of the Voltage FR.
    luckily I went to a shop I don't normally use and saw the FR30, a quick ride later and I was sold. The bike rides great and fits everything I was looking for and at a great price.
    So far I have swapped out the bars to a spare pair of Sunline V1's I had and changed the pedals to some Wellgo MG1's (dirt cheap, will see how they hold up, so far they have been great).
    I have also fitted the Mo-Co cartridge to the Domains, really suprised how good these forks feel when they have broken in (I was always a zocchi fan).
    My only area of concern is the stock Roco, I have had one of these in the past and changed it quickly due to it constantly leaking. I also find it blows through its travel quickly even after changing the spring to 450lb (I think adjustable compression is the only way forward).

    What Coil Shock is best suited to the Voltage for all round riding?
    I have spent considerable time on the following:-
    DHX5 on a Cove G-Spot
    Pushed DHX 5 on a Cove G-Spot (far superior to stock but exspensive).
    Rock Shox Vivid on a Commencal Supreme DH (almost as good as the Pushed DHX).

    I have never ridden a Manitou shock but I see Revox's cheap all the time.
    I have looked at a Pushed Van R as a cheapish upgrade (TFTuned rate these very highly as fit and forget shocks)

    Any unbiased advice/opinions would be greatly appreciated.

    The bike was designed around an RC4.

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    I'm riding a M size 2008 Santa Cruz Nomad (70mm stem). And I was wondering which size of the Voltage would better fit me. The S or the L.

    My LBS only has the S size in stock and If need be, they will order the L in. But that means I HAVE to buy it even before trying it out. I did try out the S, feel kinda comfortable. Hands are not cramped, but I just tried the voltage for only 2 minutes or so. And maybe because I like the bike so much, I fear it might have clouded my judgment.

    1. I'm about 5' 10". Has anyone here rode a M size Santa Cruz and switched to the Voltage FR? If so, What size did you get. the LBS says that L are for 6-footers.

    2. What is the lowest travel for fork options? 140mm? 100mm?

    3. Can the Voltage take a Boxxer up front with only 170mm travel in the rear? I'm getting the FR30 and don't intend to swap the shocks just yet.
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    Also, would Deity Vendetta cranks be weird on this bike?

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    You could run all of those parts and it would work well. I have ran my fork at 100mm but prefer 130mm with 135mm in the back.

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    also jay, I'm 5'10", and ride a size long, but it is first and formost my downhill/lift access bike, so I wasnt worried as much about dirt jumping it

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    The_Pitbull,

    I'm not really looking at the Voltage FR to be a DJ bike only. (I guess the deity cranks made it seem like a DJ bike. I was just wondering if anyone used these cranks for DH. Kinda silly ?) More of an all-rounder. did you manage to try out the short as well? Was it a lot of difference?


    buckoW,

    As usual, you've been very helpful. Thanks.



    Still looking for anyone who had any experience switching from a Nomad M size to a voltage FR

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    Jay - from a long to a short is an inch effective top tube if I remember correctly. it's not a huge difference

    not sure where the deity crank conversation came from

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    so, I'm trying to install saint cranks on my fr10, but the non-drive crank arm comes to under a mm away from the chainstay yoke area (where the yoke is welded to the rest of the stay)

    they are installed with the spacer correctly installed, and flipping the spacer over to the non-drive side spaces the arm about right, but ruins the chain line

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    Hey The Pitbull,

    When Shimano did the new Saints they rewrote what was a good chainline due to the thicker chainring tabs. I think it would be fine with the bb spacer on the non drive side. I do that all the time to get my chain ring more inboard. Do you only have one spacer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckoW
    Hey The Pitbull,

    When Shimano did the new Saints they rewrote what was a good chainline due to the thicker chainring tabs. I think it would be fine with the bb spacer on the non drive side. I do that all the time to get my chain ring more inboard. Do you only have one spacer?
    ya, I have only one spacer in there.I'm going to have to take a look at moving the chainguide around today

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    DH worthy?

    I'm looking to buy a new bike towards the end of the year and I am looking for a bigger bike. Right now I have a Giant Reign X1 for my gravity ride, but would like something more. I like the versatility that the Voltage FR has, but I am curious how DH worthy is it? Every time there is a promo for this bike it shows the Coastal Crew, but they are riding Gamblers?? I'm not looking to race, just riding Bootleg Canyon (local trail). I see Ben is rocking a Fox 40, will that void the warranty? I'm defiantly going to look for this bike at I-bike demo days.

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    jd, I spoke with scott about that when I was looking at it. They will keep your warranty intact, no matter what fork you run

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    BuckoW... What brand on the eccentric headset?

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    Last edited by SlickShoe671; 06-23-2010 at 12:49 AM.

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    By the looks of things.. just a voltage with boxxers on there..

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    Any word on 2011? Are the prices going to stay relatively the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skogas
    BuckoW... What brand on the eccentric headset?
    I have one K9 and 2 my friend made for me.

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    E2e Shock Length

    Hey...My Voltage FR10 frame will be here thursday and was wondering what is the actual E2E length of the shock that is stock on it. I want to change to a coil. I saw a couple of posts here about running different size shocks for different types of riding. I am most gonna use for DH so want the most amout of travel. I read you can go 9.5" that would give you more travel, like 160-180 mm. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I wanna get something ordered to have when the bike is here. Also....Elka or Fox DHX coil??

    Thanks

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    Hey mtnrider1009,

    You are correct should run the 240mm i2i shock on the Voltage FR for DH stuff. I like the Fox RC4 on that bike but have friends that love the Elka too.

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    BuckoW...One more question, The longer shock will raise the bottom bracket height correct and if I am putting my dual crown boxxer on it that should bring it down a little bit and even it back out? I am ordering an avalanche rear shock for it and the guys there said they can even make it 9.25 instead of 9.5. Would I just be splitting hairs at that point for that 1/4 inch as far as the bottom bracket height is concerned? Thanks for the help!

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    And what is optimal rear suspension set for not racing DH-style?
    Can it be the shock 8.75x2.75 with using mounts of i2i for 240 mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider1009
    BuckoW...One more question, The longer shock will raise the bottom bracket height correct and if I am putting my dual crown boxxer on it that should bring it down a little bit and even it back out? I am ordering an avalanche rear shock for it and the guys there said they can even make it 9.25 instead of 9.5. Would I just be splitting hairs at that point for that 1/4 inch as far as the bottom bracket height is concerned? Thanks for the help!
    That is a good idea and I actually have a 232mm i2i shock for exactly this purpose. I wouldn't go any shorter than 232mm but yours at 234.9mm would probably work very well too. I would say go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebrand
    And what is optimal rear suspension set for not racing DH-style?
    Can it be the shock 8.75x2.75 with using mounts of i2i for 240 mm?
    I do that too sometimes and it gives you a 330mm to 335mm bb height with a nice and slack head angle. It is pretty low but carves the flat turn so well.

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    anyone know of a dealer in southern california that carries these? by that, I mean they have some in their showroom for people to actually look at? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mowerman
    anyone know of a dealer in southern california that carries these? by that, I mean they have some in their showroom for people to actually look at? Thanks.

    Not sure where in SoCal you are but they had a few here
    http://www.bikewarrior.com/

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    My current set up on my Voltage 20

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    jenson hasn't had them in months and won't be getting any more in.

    I'll try Bikewarrior.

    Thanks.

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    Just bought my wife one last week. FR 20. This thing is awesome. I wish I could think of a way to make it an all mtn. ride. I weighed it and a whopping 38.5lbs. Yikes! I think it's rated @ 36lbs. That's a bit off I'd say. Fun as hell bike though. Me thinks I want's one too! Rode the FR 10 last w/e @ Winter Park, Co. and she jumps and handles beautifully. Great price for a great bike.

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    Bought one for my wife as well a few weeks ago, trying to come up with an excuse to buy another one for myself now!!!

    Watching allmtnman ride one was inspiring, it made eating SH** look pretty impressive!!!!
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    How about we take the "let it burn approach" with the rotting cesspool of the Denver metro?

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