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    A little update, I now have a fox ctd remote 2013 shock,
    Which works better than the DT Swiss with the twinloc.
    So the question is, why does Scott not want you to do this upgrade. Mojo suspension said it would fit, wouldn't hit the down tube and would work fine
    with the twinloc!!!!!!Fox shock on 2013 Genius-1970408_10203264119822846_1385986765_n.jpg

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    Rock on \m/

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    Nice !!!

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    Biggazu, you got this shock to work with the twinloc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hextall View Post
    Biggazu, you got this shock to work with the twinloc?
    Yes, it works a treat, bit too easy to mount and setup, Was a doddle.
    Keep thinking ive done some thing wrong. cycled thru all the settings on
    twinloc and it just works better than the dt swiss.

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    Amazing,did you have to change the disc in the twinloc from DT Swiss to a Fox one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wock View Post
    Amazing,did you have to change the disc in the twinloc from DT Swiss to a Fox one.
    Done nothing to the fox ctd. Just threaded the cable,
    Took up the slack. That's it.

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    how much for the remote ctd shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggazu View Post
    A little update, I now have a fox ctd remote 2013 shock,
    Which works better than the DT Swiss with the twinloc.
    So the question is, why does Scott not want you to do this upgrade. Mojo suspension said it would fit, wouldn't hit the down tube and would work fine
    with the twinloc!!!!!
    What size was the shock and hardware? Looks great. I'd like to use the same setup.
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    ... and if we just ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinodriver View Post
    What size was the shock and hardware? Looks great. I'd like to use the same setup.
    The Fox Float CTD is a 200 x 57mm with a medium tune and 175 psi boostvalve.

    bushing are 8x22mm which my good friend on here Mike told me to buy. other than that, that's it, New inner and outer cables help. Mine are on order.

    Plus I did a 20.7 mile ride Garmin Connect

    The bike was SWEAR WORD EPIC EPIC EPIC. It rides just like it was designed to do, and very very well. The shock was a lot of uk sterling. But worth as much as a very good set of wheel. The climb mode with the high compression is way better than having the shock locked fully out. Plus the decent open mode is also like coil spring smooth. Worth ever £££££ Why on earth Scott didn't put the fox CTD Float shock on from new is blinding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggazu View Post
    The Fox Float CTD is a 200 x 57mm with a medium tune and 175 psi boostvalve.

    bushing are 8x22mm which my good friend on here Mike told me to buy. other than that, that's it, New inner and outer cables help. Mine are on order.

    Plus I did a 20.7 mile ride Garmin Connect

    The bike was SWEAR WORD EPIC EPIC EPIC. It rides just like it was designed to do, and very very well. The shock was a lot of uk sterling. But worth as much as a very good set of wheel. The climb mode with the high compression is way better than having the shock locked fully out. Plus the decent open mode is also like coil spring smooth. Worth ever £££££ Why on earth Scott didn't put the fox CTD Float shock on from new is blinding.
    Thanks man! Glad to hear it rides so good... Now to figure out how to pay for it.... Not sure my moonlighting as a slightly overweight, middle aged, bald gigolo is going to get me there!

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    I had budget trouble too so I got a 2013 float CTD on sale for 258 on probikesupply and it works great Im hitting the trail really good with that shock.
    If I had the cash I would go for the fox float x but the ctd work just fine....

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    Hi!
    Great info!
    First post in this Great forum!
    Got inspired and bought a Fox float CTD 2014 of ebay
    yesterday. 225$ incl shipping. Hope this shock will work
    better than stock on my 740...
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    Good price I got my ctd kashima at 300 and what a diference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abris76 View Post
    Hi!
    Great info!
    First post in this Great forum!
    Got inspired and bought a Fox float CTD 2014 of ebay
    yesterday. 225$ incl shipping. Hope this shock will work
    better than stock on my 740...
    if you ordered the 200x57mm and hardware 8x22mm there will be no problem and you will have a better bike....

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    Quote Originally Posted by abris76 View Post
    Hi!
    Great info!
    First post in this Great forum!
    Got inspired and bought a Fox float CTD 2014 of ebay
    yesterday. 225$ incl shipping. Hope this shock will work
    better than stock on my 740...
    Mods done so far:
    Richey carbon riser bar
    Xt brakes and gearshifters
    Converted wheels tubless
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    If you not smiling like Bill Gate when he checks his bank balance, some thing is wrong.

    That's how good the bike is with the Fox shock.

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    I'm not sure why Scott UK advise against fitting a Fox shock. There must be a reason (perhaps an issue on smaller sizes?). Perhaps the odds of the shock head hitting the underside of the top tube are VERY slim, but tests proved that with all the worst-case scenarios it may happen ie small frame, large rider, frame flex etc etc. They can't say it will work for this and not for that, otherwise they open themselves up to all the legal rubbish.....

    Anyway biggazu - are you in the UK as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggazu View Post
    If you not smiling like Bill Gate when he checks his bank balance, some thing is wrong.

    That's how good the bike is with the Fox shock.
    That what's I'm hoping!
    Got 200*57 incl correct spacers.
    Was unused, came of a Bronson...
    Just wait and see.

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    I did get an answer from Scott UK, the reply is on the forum. The Fox Nude shock off the 2014 won't fit, The head of the shock might hit the top tube. I didn't fit a nude, I took advise from Mojo fox. The Fox float ctd I installed has a lot of clearance, I would not risk it if it wouldn't work. Funny how many pro riders have Scott genius, but none use the DT Swiss shock!!!!

    If you look at the picture above, you can see what sort space between the shock and the down tube, it had less with the dt swiss.
    Last edited by biggazu; 03-18-2014 at 12:07 PM.

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    Im in the UK. CWS.
    Live in the Forest Of Dean.

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    Hi

    Would the set up you describe work on a genius 940 ? I would love to change my Swiss DT shock for something that works as I love the bike.
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldjoe sew View Post
    Hi

    Would the set up you describe work on a genius 940 ? I would love to change my Swiss DT shock for something that works as I love the bike.
    Steve
    I have a 900 SL which geometry is the same as the 940. I installed the Float X without any trouble, fits perfect, I had a problem with the return spring on the shock but Fox took care of it and now the shock is working as planned. I'm using the twinlock system, not the Fox CTD remote lever, the riding is unbelievable better. You won't regret it....

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    Goodbye fit swiss rear shock

    Quote Originally Posted by hvmathews View Post
    I have a 900 SL which geometry is the same as the 940. I installed the Float X without any trouble, fits perfect, I had a problem with the return spring on the shock but Fox took care of it and now the shock is working as planned. I'm using the twinlock system, not the Fox CTD remote lever, the riding is unbelievable better. You won't regret it....
    Thanks will get looking for one

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    Hey folks, so glad I came across this post. Have a 2013 Scott Genius 740 which I have customised a fair amount (X01 Groupset, reverb, Hope brakes etc) and have now turned my attention to the shock.

    Can I just confirm that it's a 200x57 shock I need rather than a 200x51?
    Checking the Cane Creek website, they have suggested the latter due to the possible issue with frame strikes at full compression but reading the posts, it seems 200x57 is fine.

    Will be going with a Monarch+ shock rather than the CC and will pair that with a Pike up front but want to ensure I get the right one. Would it make a huge impact if I went with the recommended 200x51 size or are CC just playing it safe.

    Thanks folks

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    Thats correct 200/57 why no cane creek there is another forim of a genius 930 with one an no problem?
    I went with fox boost valve ctd and perfect fit.

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    I made the swap to a genius 740 shock 200x57mm and hardware 8x22mm i went with a fox ctd but for rockshox they should not change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanmoll View Post
    Thats correct 200/57 why no cane creek there is another forim of a genius 930 with one an no problem?
    I went with fox boost valve ctd and perfect fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeQueyar View Post
    I made the swap to a genius 740 shock 200x57mm and hardware 8x22mm i went with a fox ctd but for rockshox they should not change.
    Thanks for taking the time in responding, good to know. Have a great weekend.

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    OK, so if I have a 2013 Scott Genius 930 (29er), what size Fox rear shock would I need? I am seeing the whole 29er and 650b back and forth conversations since the beginning of this thread and have become thoroughly confused now... I just want to make absolutely sure that if I pull the trigger I am buying the correct shock... Ideally would like the Float X CTD, but would be fine with a lesser model depending on budget.
    My searching for DT Swiss support for seal kits or maintenance instructions have become more frustrating than they are worth, so this is my next best option.
    Thanks for any input!
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    Yes it sucks dt swiss, in my opinion wait for cane creek inline I have the fox ctd factory and feel to lineal and goin to make a swap to cane creek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Ray View Post
    OK, so if I have a 2013 Scott Genius 930 (29er), what size Fox rear shock would I need? I am seeing the whole 29er and 650b back and forth conversations since the beginning of this thread and have become thoroughly confused now... I just want to make absolutely sure that if I pull the trigger I am buying the correct shock... Ideally would like the Float X CTD, but would be fine with a lesser model depending on budget.
    My searching for DT Swiss support for seal kits or maintenance instructions have become more frustrating than they are worth, so this is my next best option.
    Thanks for any input!
    this email is from fox sometimes last year when i asked the same question of them for my 2013 genius 910. i ended up going with the cane creek db air cs but the float x looks awesome too.

    With that bike you can fit any of our air rear shocks. As far as remote goes you can get either the FLOAT CTD Remote at $470.00, or you can get the FLOAT X for $595.00. The price for both of these is without the remote. The size of that shock is 7.5” x 2.0”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanmoll View Post
    Yes it sucks dt swiss, in my opinion wait for cane creek inline I have the fox ctd factory and feel to lineal and goin to make a swap to cane creek.

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    You changing again bro.....Im making a frame swap the bronson will arrive by the end of this month.
    Are you selling the fox ctd kashima??? I may be interested on buying it the measure are the same for the bronson 200*57

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    Yes I am selling it!!!!

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    Re: Fox shock on 2013 Genius

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeQueyar View Post
    You changing again bro.....Im making a frame swap the bronson will arrive by the end of this month.
    Are you selling the fox ctd kashima??? I may be interested on buying it the measure are the same for the bronson 200*57
    No way I am looking at a bronson frame too were u abke to sell your scott frame quick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weaverwins View Post
    this email is from fox sometimes last year when i asked the same question of them for my 2013 genius 910. i ended up going with the cane creek db air cs but the float x looks awesome too.

    With that bike you can fit any of our air rear shocks. As far as remote goes you can get either the FLOAT CTD Remote at $470.00, or you can get the FLOAT X for $595.00. The price for both of these is without the remote. The size of that shock is 7.5” x 2.0”.
    Thanks for the great info! Looks like I will be going this route...
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    Hi guys, I'm looking to do this swap on my 710 (2013). Sorry to beat a dead horse here, but can you confirm the shock hardware size and shock length? The Scott manual for the 2013 Genius shows 6x22.2 hardware and 200x55 shock length (which probably translates to 200x57 (7.875 x 2.25) for the Fox CTD), but the thread seems to say 8x22 is the size.

    Where's a good source for the hardware?

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    I got my hardware on jensonusa.com 22.2 x 8 but my genius is 730 though

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanmoll View Post
    I got my hardware on jensonusa.com 22.2 x 8 but my genius is 730 though

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    Interesting, I wonder if the carbon vs aluminum frames have different spacing then? The manual I picked up that information from seemed to cover both versions, however. Thanks for the tip for jensons!
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    Re: Fox shock on 2013 Genius

    Quote Originally Posted by bryanus View Post
    Interesting, I wonder if the carbon vs aluminum frames have different spacing then? The manual I picked up that information from seemed to cover both versions, however. Thanks for the tip for jensons!
    Contact fox (or cane Creek etc) and they'll tell you which shock fits.
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    My was 200x57 and hardware 22x8
    I sole my to a friend and he hasnt had any problem untill this day.

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    Anyone else considering the Cane Creek Inline?

    The reviews seem to be pretty favorable on Cane Creek's new DB Inline shock and seeing how its the only Cane Creek model that will fit my 940 Genius, any opinions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue426 View Post
    The reviews seem to be pretty favorable on Cane Creek's new DB Inline shock and seeing how its the only Cane Creek model that will fit my 940 Genius, any opinions?
    i might have gotten that for my 910 had it been out. ive heard that unless youre doing extended downhill runs, the piggyback isn't a bonus. couldnt be happier with my CC DB Air CS as it completely transformed my genius and made it ride how i hoped it would out of the box but like i said, the inline wasnt an option at the time.
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    Yes the inline seems solid I am goin to swap my ctd for cane creek.

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    Do you know how many sets of 8x22mm bushings are needed? 2? One for the piston side and one for the Chamber side?

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    2 sets

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    Thanks

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    Just verified with Scott the the shock dimensions for the Genius 700 SL is 200mmx55mm

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    What shock cane creek?

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    If you take a look at the Genius 2013 Owner's Manual it shows that Genuis 700 and Genuis 900 are different regarding the size of the shock

    http://assets.scott-sports.com.s3.am..._Genius_EN.pdf

    I bought the 7.5 x 2.0 (190mmx50mm) because I have 900 Frame.

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    Anyone run into any issues with a 2014 or 2015 Fox Float CTD on a 2013 Scott Genius 940 (size 190mm x 50 mm)? Scott still won't provide any details when I contact them. I want to make this switch this summer. Otherwise, I will have to spend the money on an CC inline...

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    I will recomend waiting for the cc inline much better shock
    And been on fox ctd genius 730 2013 no issues here

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