I figured I would give a detailed review of the bike and start a new thread.
The main reason I got this bike over other bikes is the ability to lockout the rear suspension and change the geometry. I recently came off a 2012 Specialized Epic. I was in between a medium and large. I ended up going with a large and a shorter stem. The bike never quite felt right, especially descending. My other bikes are a single speed Specialized Carve and a Trek Remedy. My main goal with this bike was to have a bike that I could trail ride, race, ride Moab, etc. One bike to rule them all. I will never give up my single speed though. That is bike that is so much fun to ride. I ended up selling the Epic and I'm in the process of selling the Remedy.
When I finally received this bike, the shop forgot to give me the tubeless conversion and Reverb kit. No big deal however the DT Swiss conversion kit is terrible. I have been running tubelss for 7 years now and I never had a harder setting up these tires and wheelset to tubeless. The Nobby Nics leak like sieve. Combine that with a leaky rim strip and tire and you are talking hours to convert. I gave up and went the stan's method. Quick and easy. Took an hour but then an additional 3 days for the tires to stop leaking and sealing up tight. In my expereince with tires the Nobby Nic is the worst tire I have ever encounted, but more on that later. Each tire had ~50 pin hole leaks with crap beads that leaked air also.
The bike was also set up with the longest hoses and cables I have ever seen on bike. I ended up cutting them down significantly. I should of had the shop do it, but I enjoyed learning about the bike and how easy it is working on SHimano brakes. The only hose I haven't cut down is the Reverb post. The twinloc hoses were so long, but it was a great learning experience to see first hand how the twinloc operates the fork and shock.
The bike with XTR pedals weighs 27.4 lbs and with my heavy flat pedals weighs 28.3 lbs. The (3) modifications I made to the bike is I put ESI Chunky grips on, set the bike tubeless and put on my XTR trail brakes.(These are seriously the best brakes out there)
Ok enough rambling. How did it ride?
I ride in Colorado and consider myself an advanced intermediate to expert. I race Cat 2 MTB in Colorado.(10-12 races a year) I'm 5'10.5 and I weight 147lbs. I take biking very seriously. I also take the training aspect very seriously. I love it and I can say I'm addicted to riding a bike.
So....... the bike rides very well. The strongest point is it climbs like a 4" travel hardtail that weighs 28 lbs.The lockout is great. In its lock position the bike is hardtail, it doesn't move. Really. You can get up stand on the pedals and the bike is rigid. Maybe a clydsdale can move the bike, but I can't. Trail mode is great for rocky climbs. Works as advertised. I rarely ever used the descend mode while I was climbing. The bike rips going downhill where there a smaller bumps and straighter lines or sweeping curves. I didn't feel any immediate flex in the fork, compared to other forks I have ridden. I thought this was going to be a concern. It wasn't; at least for a guy my size. If you weigh 250 lbs , your results may vary. The bike was solid and very stiff. I initally had the bars way to high. I took out all the spacers and slamed the stem. It still feels high and I want a -10° stem to lower it even more. After a while the twinloc became second nature and I use it way more than the reverb.
Now the bad. First the Nobby Nics are terrible. I know they might be good somewhere(I wish I knew where somewhere was) but for Colorados varied terrain they suck. I have never encounted a tire that is as bad on rocks(think moab) or water bars. They are like ice. The side knobs flex alot. I also blame this on the skinniest rims I have ever seen on a trail bike. They are 17mm. Yes that is correct, a 17mm rim on a trail/All Mountain bike. What was Scott thinking? I can't wait to try this bike with my Specialized Rovals SL's. I only use these rims for racing but might give them a try real soon.I have tried the Hans Dampf and know they are a good tire. I'm selling these tires ASAP and either putting on Ardents or Purgtory's. I have a lot experience with these tires. I have used Ardents, Purgs, Ground Control(Great all around tire), Fast Traks, Renegads, Bontrager XR4 and FR3's. These NN are the worst. I'm going to write Schwalbe a quick email and tell them about these. They are not tubeless ready as advertised unless your ideas it wait 3 days for the tires to finally plug with sealant.
The next problem is the shock. Alot of what has been said about the shock is true. It is not supple, but I don't think this is bad. You have to go about 5-7 lower on the PSI than the softest setting they recommend. If you use the twinloc the bike works well. This shock is stiffer than a RP23,but what it gives up with it small bump complience it makes up climbing. The other problem I have been having is with the fork. This fork needs alot of time to brake in. I downloaded the new Fox iphone app and been using it religiously but I have a major problem with setting up the fork to eliminate fork dive and small bump performance. If I go heavier on the PSI it works great for high speed descending, but hates small bumps. If I lower the PSI it works great for small bumps and is plush but is terrible at braking and get too far it it stroke and packs up. It has been getting better though as it breaks in. I'm at 75PSI. I started at 80 PSI and went down to 70 PSI. Next time I go out I bringing up the pressure back to 80 PSI.
So here are the things I would change for the 2014 model. A plusher shock would be nice, but I don't think it is a deal breaker. The shock has some real nice qualities. The next thing is I would ditch those Nobby Nics and put any other tires on the market on the bike. I don't care if they a Cheng Sung slicks. They are probably better. They are that terrible. DT Swiss puts out a 19.5mm rim for 29"bike. Use that rim. I'm offended you put a 17mm wide rim on a trail bike. I also think if you pay $5000 dollars and the wheelset is a DT Swiss it should at least have the ratchett system. The other thing is the Fox fork likes to dive alot during braking in descend mode. I have seen reviews on this and it is true on this bike. I don't blame this on Scott. This is a Fox problem and I bet you they will revise their damping curves for 2014 on the CTD forks.
So in a nutshell this bike is real good, but does have some flaws. (Wheelset, tires, fork) I personally think the shock is good. I know it has gotten bad press but compared to the Epic shock, it is way better. The bike fits like a glove in a medium. I'm guessing the bike will be around 26lbs even when I set it up for racing.
Thank you for reading.
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