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    2012 Scott Spark Expert 29er Frame Broke!!!!

    Here is what just happened to my 2012 Scott Spark Expert 29er. this seems to be a normal thing for Scott after doing some research. Took to the bike shop where I bought the bike about 6 months ago, and told the owner. That it has nothing to do with him, but I dont want the bike back. See this is not the first thing to go wrong with the Scott. I had to replace the rear triangle a few months back. Now the swing arm as broke where it seems all the others have broke. He called the Scott rep. Here is Scott's offer: they will replace the swing arm FOC or give the shop a credit for what he paid for the bike, (not what I paid for it) I really am having some trouble with wanting this bike back. How can I trust that something else want break. I had a 2007 Gary Fisher, that went though alot and it never broke. I just dont know if I want another Scott or not.
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    Why not ask for a spark 2013 and hope that they have fixed the swing arm problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rularn View Post
    Why not ask for a spark 2013 and hope that they have fixed the swing arm problem?
    There is no swing-arm problem. This is the 2nd chain-stay that I've seen break from the new generation. The older Sparks were notorious for broken swing-arms, not these.

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    But I've seen only 29ers broken , no 26er right?

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    No clue, 26er sales have been so low, its hard to say.

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    rider weight and riding style? what were you doing when the chainstay snapped?
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    There is def a problem with these chain stays. Check out this ebay auction I saw 2012 Scott Spark 29 Expert Medium w/ 2013 Scott Spark 920 Parts - Free shipping | eBay ......This reminds me of the composite rear ends cracking on the cannondales of the late 90's-2000's which they ended up replacing all with a revamped Alu rear end. I wonder if Scott will have to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnavy05 View Post
    rider weight and riding style? what were you doing when the chainstay snapped?
    I agree...these are XC bikes and it all depends on what the rider is doing as well as weight etc.

    Not implying anything here just need to know all the facts first. In any case it doesn't matter this guy is not going to be riding a Scott ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddouble518 View Post
    There is def a problem with these chain stays. Check out this ebay auction I saw 2012 Scott Spark 29 Expert Medium w/ 2013 Scott Spark 920 Parts - Free shipping | eBay ......This reminds me of the composite rear ends cracking on the cannondales of the late 90's-2000's which they ended up replacing all with a revamped Alu rear end. I wonder if Scott will have to do this.
    I dont get it? a guy selling a spark means there is something wrong with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddouble518 View Post
    There is def a problem with these chain stays. Check out this ebay auction I saw 2012 Scott Spark 29 Expert Medium w/ 2013 Scott Spark 920 Parts - Free shipping | eBay ......This reminds me of the composite rear ends cracking on the cannondales of the late 90's-2000's which they ended up replacing all with a revamped Alu rear end. I wonder if Scott will have to do this.
    Quote Originally Posted by rlucky82 View Post
    I dont get it? a guy selling a spark means there is something wrong with them?
    The guy selling the bike on eBay looks to be pumaking, so let's see what he has to say.. scroll up, haha.

    Hopefully this is an isolated issue. It looks like there may have been some quality control issues with the hydro-forming of the chain-stay tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlucky82 View Post
    I dont get it? a guy selling a spark means there is something wrong with them?
    The picture of his non drive chainstay looked crushed maybe not. IDK the seller looks to be a member here by the name of pumaking.
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    Yes, that is my auction. The spare chainstay is just that a spare. Remember in my thread I upgraded my chainstay to the solid rear axle because the expert comes with the standard quick release.

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    Scary. I hope this never happens to anyone I know.

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    And this is why I don't ride CF frames. I've seen so many broken CF frames, road + mountain, and it always surprises me people keep on buying them.

    The burly carbon frames like Nomad and Mojo are one thing, but the ultra-light construction on the xc race bikes scares me.

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    Was that a crash? Looks like you had an impact and hit the crank arm end on the chain stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgatovolador View Post
    And this is why I don't ride CF frames. I've seen so many broken CF frames, road + mountain, and it always surprises me people keep on buying them.

    The burly carbon frames like Nomad and Mojo are one thing, but the ultra-light construction on the xc race bikes scares me.
    While you are entitled to your opinion, you should be aware that all the Sparks, except for the RC model use an aluminium rear triangle, including the Expert with the broken chainstay pictured above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgatovolador View Post
    And this is why I don't ride CF frames. I've seen so many broken CF frames, road + mountain, and it always surprises me people keep on buying them.

    The burly carbon frames like Nomad and Mojo are one thing, but the ultra-light construction on the xc race bikes scares me.
    You've seen so many broken CF frames? Really? I didn't know many people own them. You do realize that CF bikes are still pretty damn expensive and that they are still very rare, right?

    Did you know CF is stronger, more rigid and lighter then alloy? It's already been proven that CF MTB bike's are here to stay.

    The real issue is not that they can break but that they are just way too expensive to buy and repair if damaged. Also both Alloy and CF can break, bend or crack. Your perception is out of touch with reality.

    I don't believe you've ever seen a lot of broken CF frames like you claim. You just hate them because you can't afford to get one yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgatovolador View Post
    And this is why I don't ride CF frames. I've seen so many broken CF frames, road + mountain, and it always surprises me people keep on buying them.

    The burly carbon frames like Nomad and Mojo are one thing, but the ultra-light construction on the xc race bikes scares me.
    the broken part is aluminum, moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pumaking View Post
    There is no swing-arm problem. This is the 2nd chain-stay that I've seen break from the new generation. The older Sparks were notorious for broken swing-arms, not these.
    Well...mine just broke tonight in the exact same spot.

    Hopefully Chain Reaction in Gainesville will take care of it tomorrow.

    Have you seen anymore of these problems Pumaking?

    Thanks,Jared

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    Ride style? I just jought one today versus a tallboy. Yikes!

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    My riding style is mostly xc, with some small jumps here and there. I ride some technical trails at Santos in Ocala, FL and that is where the break happened. I am a Clydesdale at 250, but don't think that is what caused the break. There are 2 reports of the same break in the same spot from guys lighter than me.

    I really like the bike, and hope Scott takes care of it. I have had it just under a year.

    Jared

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    Hopefully the bike gives me a trouble free year. Ill be riding the trans fondo and bow 80 on it.

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    Got mine back today, hope the new swingarm holds up.

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    I've seen only 2 break so far in South Florida. They broke in the same park, Markham Park. Unfortunately the 2 riders are not smooth and really rough on the bike. My guess is that the wheel and swingarm flexed in opposite direction causing the swing arm to break there. The stock wheels unfortunately are wet noodles, and the 9mm skewers just add insult to injury. If you guys have the means, I definitely recommend upgrading to a solid rear axle chainstay/wheel combo, atleast a DT Swiss RWS 10x135.

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    Hey guys, I was going to buy a 2012 Spark Expert locally ( its in new shape) My reason is to get rid of all the extra pounds moving to Tennessee and eating caused. I am 245lbs and 50, and after reading this thread while researching the bike has me a bit scared. WHere I ride requires only small drops 1 foot and under. Will my weight take out the rear ?? If I lose all the weight i am still going to be about 200. Current ride is an Older Fischer Sugar, no major problems.

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    Does anybody know if this problem is also an issue with the Genius models, Just order a Genius 930 and I am scared this can happen to my new bike..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jegyed View Post
    Hey guys, I was going to buy a 2012 Spark Expert locally ( its in new shape) My reason is to get rid of all the extra pounds moving to Tennessee and eating caused. I am 245lbs and 50, and after reading this thread while researching the bike has me a bit scared. WHere I ride requires only small drops 1 foot and under. Will my weight take out the rear ?? If I lose all the weight i am still going to be about 200. Current ride is an Older Fischer Sugar, no major problems.
    Forums can give the illusion that most of the bikes are having the same issue. There are a few times when you see a lot of the same type of issues occurring over and over on forums and you should be concerned. I've noticed that in a lot of the forums for other bikes like Trek, Specialized, Giant etc etc all have people complaining about their frame cracking or bending. I wouldn't be too worried about the frame as it's not as common as you would think.

    I would like to add that if you currently weigh 245lbs and ride a Spark or Genius you do run the risk of damaging the shock or other parts of the bike. I would definitely drop the weight first then drop your hard earned dollars on a new bike with dual suspension.

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    I just had the exact same thing happen to my 2012 spark expert 29. Does anyone know if the replacement swing arms are better engineered? Slightly unnerving as I have some gnarly and rough races coming up.

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    I have a 2012 spark elite fs first the front rok shok reba stabilizer snapped and the front axle. Now last week the frame snapped lower chain stay. I ride fairly challenging single track trail in PA I weigh 195 lbs. This is my first 29 er and fist full suspension bike. Not a big fan now.
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    How is that main pivot? Is it moving freely?

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    Any experience with frame issues on the 2014 Scott SParks? I'm looking at a demo Spark 900 premium which does not have a warranty. The bike is 60% off MSRP, my dream bike, and in my price range with the discount. Would you go for it or instead buy a 930 at $800 off MSRP that includes a warranty? I'm currently without a MTB and anxious to pull the trigger but having a tough time making this decision. Any help is grately appreciated.

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    What size and where? I might be interested if you get cold feet. PM me, please. Thanks!

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    Did Chain Reaction in Gainesville take care of you? What bike do you have? I'm considering buying a Spark 920 from Chain Reaction.

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    FYI I actually bought a used 2012 Scott Spark 29 Team...

    It was advertised as "well maintained"...NOT. It was a mess.

    Found a crack in the chainstay bridge... because the previous owner didn't keep the main pivots properly tightened. Had LBS tightened them... 661 miles later and still solid.

    This bike had been around the block a lot before I got it, i mean the fork lock out housing rubbed a groove into the alu crown! I upgraded the shock 200 miles ago because it stopped holding air, also rebuilt the fork.

    Still love my used and beatup Spark!!!!
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