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    Why don't grease guns come with SC bikes?

    Or do they and the LBS didn't give it to me. Seems like if you are forking out thousands of dollars, that should be included.

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    This one "Or do they and the LBS didn't give it to me."

    Talk to your LBS

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    As devil's advocate...I guess you could look at it the other way too. If you're shelling out thousands for a nice bike, $10 for a grease gun at any hardware store shouldn't break the bank. They can't include all of the tools to properly care for the bike. I would guess that most riders that will drop 4K on a bike probably already have a grease gun. I've had one for years.

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    They have since changed the grease gun out. They now only send a grease injector head out. This is what we recieved 3 weeks ago with the wife's new Tallboy.

    Have had LBS's not give out things like this before. The previous Tallboy we bought didn't come with one....but since I already has a couple, I really didn't care.
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    weird, guess maybe there is the possibility the completes dont ship with one, but I find that really odd. I still recommend you ask the lbs, and on the side email SC for their take- just to verify.

    Agree with above, they did change from the grease gun to a smaller injector. Good Luck!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bone Saw View Post
    As devil's advocate...I guess you could look at it the other way too. If you're shelling out thousands for a nice bike, $10 for a grease gun at any hardware store shouldn't break the bank. They can't include all of the tools to properly care for the bike. I would guess that most riders that will drop 4K on a bike probably already have a grease gun. I've had one for years.
    I get your point. But also playing devils advocate, this isn't my first high end mountain bike, just one that requires a grease gun to service. So I'm not a noob, just none of my previous 4 bikes required that tool. Also, they arent listed on the SC website and the few places I can find them online are expensive ($50-$80) and they are out of stock. I didn't know I could buy a generic grease gun so I'll probably go that route. I was just wondering if EVERYONE that bought a VPP SC got a grease gun with their purchase.

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    you can just get one from local auto shop or home improvement, just get the right size.
    I have gone through several frames, even got 2 recently, all have come with grease gun, but again - purchased as frames.

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    id think your LBS shoud have it. but if not, i boughjt the exact same grease gun at Harbor Freight for like $10-15 just make sure you get marine grease and not lithium grease

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    My TB LT, purchased in August, came with a grease gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel View Post
    My TB LT, purchased in August, came with a grease gun
    Complete from the bike shop? Not a frame only?

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    I got grease guns with the 2 Nomads we own.
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    My Bronson C came with a grease gun and a tube of grease. A really crappy one IMO. Either the adjuster is jammed shut or it doesn't adjust. I had to flip the bike to get enough leverage to get the end onto the grease fitting, and a board and my bodyweight to get it off.
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    I got a grease gun with my complete Bronson, but I think it's an older one. When I asked about the grease gun and any other stuff that came with the bike the guy at the LBS was a little confused. He went in the back and came out with seemingly random bits and pieces. I guess they just throw all that stuff in a big bin and don't hand it out unless people ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SManZ View Post
    My Bronson C came with a grease gun and a tube of grease. A really crappy one IMO. Either the adjuster is jammed shut or it doesn't adjust. I had to flip the bike to get enough leverage to get the end onto the grease fitting, and a board and my bodyweight to get it off.
    Good -- I thought it was just me. Thought I was going to snap the zerk fitting off the first time I used it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmallory View Post
    Complete from the bike shop? Not a frame only?
    Good question. I bought a complete bike, but I hand picked the components as opposed to buying one of the Santa Cruz spec'd bikes, as shown on their website. So, technically, I bought a frame only.

    I agree with others that the grease gun is crappy. I can't get a good seal and grease splooges everywhere. I'm getting an aftermarket gun from the hardware store.
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    It's really not such a bad result for your frame to come without an SC grease gun:

    The Santa Cruz grease gun

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    When was standing in the lbs this week and was trying to decide between a Heckler and a Bronson (complete bikes) I was told the Bronson comes with a grease gun.

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    My Tallboy2 C, complete bike, that I bought in August came with one....I haven't tried it out yet but I have heard some that some of the guns work fine and some don't work at all.

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    I have 2 grease guns.
    One for the Blur and one for the Nomad.
    Never used them, lol!

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    Grease gun which came with the blur today

    i can't ride for sh*t but i'm good at extreme pushing

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    also according to this

    https://shop.santacruzbicycles.com/vplsterms

    "Grease guns only included with VPP frames.
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    so they shoudl all come with them
    i can't ride for sh*t but i'm good at extreme pushing

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    It looks like they changed the type of grease gun that ships with the frames. Hopefully, that model will work. Now they include grease too. Nice.

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    I got a gun and only bought a frame. But sc should be shipping one. These frames need constant greasing.
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    Why don't grease guns come with SC bikes?

    I have a TRc and a Bronson c and they both came with a grease gun and a spare derailuer hanger too. My bronson came with a new style grease gun

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    How often should you grease in dry dusty conditions? And wet muddy conditions?

    Any special grease to use when my factory stuff runs out?
    i can't ride for sh*t but i'm good at extreme pushing

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    Quote Originally Posted by capoz77 View Post
    How often should you grease in dry dusty conditions? And wet muddy conditions?

    Any special grease to use when my factory stuff runs out?
    Also like to know since I have to go buy grease. Someone said marine grease, anything in particular?

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    Sta lube 3184. You can get it at harbor freight or other larger hardware stores.

    Amazon.com: Sta-Lube 3184 Marine Equipment Grs 3Oz: Automotive
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    Why don't grease guns come with SC bikes?

    I just wished the ones supplied would work ......btw no grease gun came with my Highball..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    I just wished the ones supplied would work ......btw no grease gun came with my Highball..
    They do, did you read the instructions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    They do, did you read the instructions?
    +1 - while I can't say they are great grease guns. They do work fine and it's 5mins I spend every few months so it's not like it's a critical part of my MTBing experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmallory View Post
    Also like to know since I have to go buy grease. Someone said marine grease, anything in particular?
    I'm kind of an idiot and a sucker, but I bought a tube of Phil Wood grease . . . about 2-3x as much as regular marine grease, but whatever. I was told by SC that any marine bearing grease will work, but an engineer told me to use something else as the trailer bearing grease is designed to withstand very high RPMs, which is not what your pivots will be doing. I figured PW is made for bikes so it should do the trick. Its like $8 a tube or something.
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    I think that SC has been less than clear on the type of grease. Someone said "lithium only" and I sent them an email about some other grease and they said it should be fine. After using it for a month I made a trip to the store to get the lithium because it did not seem to last anywhere near as well as the stuff that came with the gun.
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    No! No! No!

    Not Lithium!

    Blue-ish Marine grease! NOT WHITE LITHIUM GREASE!
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    would bacon grease work I wonder.
    buzzes like a fridge

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    Actually, for a bike bearing (not high speed, high temp, or routinely submerged) it doesn't really matter what type of grease you use as long as it is the SAME type as already in the bearing, or it is compatible with what is in the bearing, or you totally clean out the old grease before adding new stuff. Grease is just oil with a thickener added to keep the oil on the bearing and from drooling out all over the place. The additive (thickener) is the key. Cheap greases use lithium, which is jsut fine, others use aluminum, calcium or other stuff. If the thickener isn't compatible with what's in the bearing, it may separate and you may lose all of the oil as it runs out of the bearing and then you have no lubrication. I don't know what SC starts out with on the bearings, but it's best to stick with the same stuff. Worst case senario, pump a whole bunch of new grease in the bearing so it oozes out all over the place to flush out as much of the old stuff as you can. Most "marine" grease is calcium or even lithium based. Lithium complex grease is one of the most compatible with other types. If SC uses a calcium based grease, it's compatible with lithium complex grease. See the grease compatibility chart.

    Grease Compatibility Chart

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    Quote Originally Posted by capoz77 View Post
    How often should you grease in dry dusty conditions? And wet muddy conditions?

    Any special grease to use when my factory stuff runs out?
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    No! No! No!

    Not Lithium!

    Blue-ish Marine grease! NOT WHITE LITHIUM GREASE!
    Sorry, that's what you get for letting a marketing guy talk about chemistry. Yes, the stuff that came with it.

    Time to take my lithium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    would bacon grease work I wonder.
    Bacon grease makes anything better...I'd just be afraid of the coyotes that I would have following me.

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    cheers JKA

    i think i'll go for the job satisfaction route of pumping all the old stuff out just because

    Marine stuff sounds the best bang for buck ticket.
    i can't ride for sh*t but i'm good at extreme pushing

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    Why don't grease guns come with SC bikes?

    The "grease gun" that came with my Solo is not the traditional type.....just a 75g squeeze tube and a gun that screws to the top of it.....should be way easier to use?

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    my tb came with a grease gun, never used it. It's a piece of poo. Use a real grease gun and use general purpose farm grease. The bike loves that stuff. Use it on my CK bottom bracket too. Yes, farm grease. Same stuff they use on tractors. Yee Haw.

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    The grease gun requires reading directions carefully. It is rediculous for a potentially simple object, but...

    Use any waterproof grease.

    You want to do this asap so that you can verify the torque of the bolts on the bearings. This is easy bike love, and anyone can do it.

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