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    Tallboy LTc and Pike 160mm

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    has anyone thought of or is already riding a Tallboy LTc with a Rock Shox Pike 160mm. What do you think about the combination?

    A friend rides a Transalpes 29 with a Pike 150mm, he just loves the Pike....

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    I have a Pike 150 (46mm offset) on my LTc. Good combo. I'm thinking the 160 is a bit much, but that's just me.

    Edit: AFAIK, the 160s aren't out till early '14...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    I have a Pike 150 (46mm offset) on my LTc. Good combo. I'm thinking the 160 is a bit much, but that's just me.

    Edit: AFAIK, the 160s aren't out till early '14...
    You are right, 160 is a bit much. What shock are you using?

    I was not aware that there are different offset versions of the pike available? What are the offset options? Cant find that info on their website...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountlynx View Post
    You are right, 160 is a bit much. What shock are you using?

    I was not aware that there are different offset versions of the pike available? What are the offset options? Cant find that info on their website...
    Rear shock is a Monarch RC3+ M/M tune

    The Fox 34s coming on the LTcs are 51mm offset (the Pikes offer this and a 46). 51 is quicker in the slows, but a touch nervous in the fasts...and vise versa for the 46. But, I have the 46...it really doesn't give up much in the slows. Plus, I can "body English" the bike going slow. The LTc likes to go fast, so I choose the 46 (and it was the only option I had as early as I got my Pike)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountlynx View Post
    You are right, 160 is a bit much. What shock are you using?

    I was not aware that there are different offset versions of the pike available? What are the offset options? Cant find that info on their website...
    BTW, I posted the stuff below on the TB LTc's owner thread...
    With a 2.5 Minion DHF and a 2.3 Minion DHR2, the 150/46 Pike put the HTA at a bit steeper than 67.5* (I think that's what it was). That's pretty nice for high speed work, and yet I still didn't feel the bike wanting to plow in sharp turns. But w/ a 160...that might tilt the balance to...unfavorable...altho you could run same tires frt/rr and recover a 1/2* of HTA?
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    Thanks for the explanation. That sounds great. Just to understand it correct - a smaller offset result in a smaller wheelbase, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountlynx View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. That sounds great. Just to understand it correct - a smaller offset result in a smaller wheelbase, correct?
    It does. I know, it sounds counter-intuitive! You should dig a bit on fork offset on steering...it's VERY counter-intuitive!
    In short, the small the offset (rake), the larger the trail, the more stable the bike is at speed even tho the WB is shorter. I'm sure there's a pretty small margin where you cross the point of depreciative returns...but there's no discussion on this.
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    Thanks Paul11y

    I really appreciate your detailed answers. I like riding technical trails and tight switchbacks - as I understand it right, I should go for the 51mm offset then....

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    Hey Pau11y, is your Pike the solo air or the dual position? I'm putting the Pike on my Christmas list and I want the dual position. I'm thinking of the 120/150 with the 51mm offset but I'm not positive. May go for 110/140.

    One of the things I don't like with the Fox 34 I have now is that the front end of the bike seems to have lost its "hook up" with the terrain and steering has got slow and drifts a lot in corners. Considering that I spend 70-80% of my ride climbing and the rest descending I want that shorter travel for a better climbing experience but I'm concerned if the 150mm will cause the front end to drift more and if I will be better slicking to 140mm. Then the question is how will a TB LTc handle with a 110mm on the front?

    Logically 120/150 is probably the path to go but I'm exploring my options...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNormsk View Post
    Hey Pau11y, is your Pike the solo air or the dual position? I'm putting the Pike on my Christmas list and I want the dual position. I'm thinking of the 120/150 with the 51mm offset but I'm not positive. May go for 110/140.

    One of the things I don't like with the Fox 34 I have now is that the front end of the bike seems to have lost its "hook up" with the terrain and steering has got slow and drifts a lot in corners. Considering that I spend 70-80% of my ride climbing and the rest descending I want that shorter travel for a better climbing experience but I'm concerned if the 150mm will cause the front end to drift more and if I will be better slicking to 140mm. Then the question is how will a TB LTc handle with a 110mm on the front?

    Logically 120/150 is probably the path to go but I'm exploring my options...
    There have been a lot of posts about this in the LTc thread.

    A Pike at 140 climbs even the steeps great so need need to go with a DP fork. That was the main thing that pushed me to the 140 instead of the 150.

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