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    Just getting into MTN biking after 5 years off...got a great deal on a new 2014 TBLTc w XT kit so I decided to make my first FS bike a nice one...still trying to get my head around a lot of the technical business and just looking for general advice and tips...this looks like the right place to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breaktheory View Post
    Just getting into MTN biking after 5 years off...got a great deal on a new 2014 TBLTc w XT kit so I decided to make my first FS bike a nice one...still trying to get my head around a lot of the technical business and just looking for general advice and tips...this looks like the right place to do it
    You've got a great bike! Get out and ride! Post up questions as they pop up.

    Some like the rear shock sagged to 20% some sag to 30%. Don't be afraid to experiment with different pressure in the rear shock and fork, too.

    Look at the instructions on SC website on bearing overhaul. You may need to tighten the pivot axles after a break in period. It's easy.

    It's just a bike! Ride and enjoy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by reamer41 View Post
    You've got a great bike! Get out and ride! Post up questions as they pop up.

    Some like the rear shock sagged to 20% some sag to 30%. Don't be afraid to experiment with different pressure in the rear shock and fork, too.

    Look at the instructions on SC website on bearing overhaul. You may need to tighten the pivot axles after a break in period. It's easy.

    It's just a bike! Ride and enjoy!


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    Thanks dude...im in LA so I've beeen riding around the Santa Monica mountains getting acquainted with the bike (and the trails) what an upgrade from my $400 hard tail from 2007!

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    So first question is about the suspension - the bike is a 2014 and has a fox 34 float factory ctd fork...not sure what year but I'd imagine also 2014. I read a lot of posts talking about the dramatic superiority of the pike or that the fox 36 is superior to that. Then to add to the confusion it seems the year models on these also factor in.

    How much of a difference do these other shocks make and what exactly is it that makes them "better" so far my rides have been very smooth, is there a whole other level w say a fox 36 or pike? Thanks much

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    I've currently got a 130mm Fox 34 on my 2014 Stache and a 140mm Pike on my LTc, so both are pretty close. The Pike is definitely stiffer with the 35mm stanchions, handles bigger hits much better, better brake dive prevention, and allows for more of a custom tune with the tokens. The Fox 34 is a little more supple over smaller stuff and generally a little smoother overall, but more brake dive and not quite as stiff, keep in mind my 34 has 10mm less travel as well. Both are great trail forks, the Pike is just a step up. I wouldn't say it's whole new level though. If I had a Fox 34 I wouldn't rush out and buy a Pike. If I had to buy a fork right away because I broke mine, I'd choose the Pike.

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    -I would suggest upgrading the internals (both sides) to the 2016 FIT4 system over the CTD stuff that was NOT very good.

    You'll save a buncha $$$ that way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breaktheory View Post
    So first question is about the suspension - the bike is a 2014 and has a fox 34 float factory ctd fork...not sure what year but I'd imagine also 2014. I read a lot of posts talking about the dramatic superiority of the pike or that the fox 36 is superior to that. Then to add to the confusion it seems the year models on these also factor in.

    How much of a difference do these other shocks make and what exactly is it that makes them "better" so far my rides have been very smooth, is there a whole other level w say a fox 36 or pike? Thanks much
    Personally better and cheaper than upgrading to a new fork is a custom tune.

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    Anyone happen to be selling a Float X from a tblt?
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    I have a BOS deville if you are interested

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    I have a Float X send me a PM.


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    Only one good ride so far but I'm really loving this bike!!!

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    Noice!

    Jus decided it might be time to part ways with mine...

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    Selling mine d/t life circumstances, has been an incredible bike and is in great shape. PM me if you have any interest.

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    Part ways?

    Quote Originally Posted by max_lombardy View Post
    Noice!

    Jus decided it might be time to part ways with mine...


    Part ways with your LTc?

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    Yep, pm if you have any questions

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    Disaster Strikes

    Sorry to hijack guys but disaster has struck - I think I leaned my 2014 LTC against a post with a screw sticking out that appears to have punctured the top tube and left a nasty exit wound from pulling it off! Has anyone had experience with something like this - I've crashed the bike with no issues but a simple screw does it in?!

    My LBS said they spoke with Santa Cruz (I also reached out) who didn't have a matching replacement triangle and if I had the tube repaired at CALFEE it would void the warranty of the frame - I was not able to reach anyone at SC to discuss - anyone have any experience with either punctured carbon or SC warranties being voided by repair? I don't see anything on the SC site about warranty voiding.

    Thanks all!
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    It seems reasonable to me that a warranty would be voided if a repair was made. How could they guarantee the integrity of their product that had been repaired? That being said, if SC doesnt have a replacement triangle, you're only left with the repair option and taking the risk on your own. I have a calfee road bike and I've sent my frame to be refinished and they do great work, so I wouldn't be worried.

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    My LTc frame cracked as is being waranteed.


    The carbon rear triangle, Tonka yellow, and a cytoe down tube shield is free to a good home. Plus shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    My LTc frame cracked as is being waranteed.


    The carbon rear triangle, Tonka yellow, and a cytoe down tube shield is free to a good home. Plus shipping.
    Hightower?

    What cracked...where?
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    If Calfee repairs it you will have a good frame but no warranty. that sounds better than a busted frame with no warranty. It looks like an easy repair, but would have to be painted too. What would that cost, and would it be worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    My LTc frame cracked as is being waranteed.


    The carbon rear triangle, Tonka yellow, and a cytoe down tube shield is free to a good home. Plus shipping.
    That's very generous but unfortunately it's my front triangle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    If Calfee repairs it you will have a good frame but no warranty. that sounds better than a busted frame with no warranty. It looks like an easy repair, but would have to be painted too. What would that cost, and would it be worth it?
    Yah I sent it off to Calfee - this was more just to make sure this was routine as I was never able to get ahold of SC myself and got all this info from the bike shop. I'm guessing it'll be about $500 all in (cost $100 just to ship it there) and I'll probably do express return so certainly worth the cost.

    Anyone have experience with something like this - seems like a carbon frame should be able to withhold the impact of a screwhead no? That's why I thought maybe the frame was faulty to begin with but the bike shop inspection laid fault on me due to impact marks.

    Seems odd that a minor impact on a screw would tear it up like thius

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breaktheory View Post
    Yah I sent it off to Calfee - this was more just to make sure this was routine as I was never able to get ahold of SC myself and got all this info from the bike shop. I'm guessing it'll be about $500 all in (cost $100 just to ship it there) and I'll probably do express return so certainly worth the cost.

    Anyone have experience with something like this - seems like a carbon frame should be able to withhold the impact of a screwhead no? That's why I thought maybe the frame was faulty to begin with but the bike shop inspection laid fault on me due to impact marks.

    Seems odd that a minor impact on a screw would tear it up like thius
    Ouch on shipping. I repeat this on any thread I read about outrageous shipping costs BIKEFLIGHTS is the only way to ship bikes/frames. I've shipped frame across the country for $40 insured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breaktheory View Post
    Yah I sent it off to Calfee - this was more just to make sure this was routine as I was never able to get ahold of SC myself and got all this info from the bike shop. I'm guessing it'll be about $500 all in (cost $100 just to ship it there) and I'll probably do express return so certainly worth the cost.

    Anyone have experience with something like this - seems like a carbon frame should be able to withhold the impact of a screwhead no? That's why I thought maybe the frame was faulty to begin with but the bike shop inspection laid fault on me due to impact marks.

    Seems odd that a minor impact on a screw would tear it up like thius
    From what I have heard, it is the sharp penetration type blows that are carbon's weakness compared to steel or aluminum, even if it is stronger in tension, bending and fatigue.

    Do you know if Calfee will paint the whole frame or just touch up the repair? I wonder if you could change the color?

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    I think they'll do whatever you're willing to pay for down to decal replacatiom but just having my little hole painted is running me $150 not inclusive of carbon work so probably pricey to paint a whole bike - check out the site

    http://calfeedesign.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Ouch on shipping. I repeat this on any thread I read about outrageous shipping costs BIKEFLIGHTS is the only way to ship bikes/frames. I've shipped frame across the country for $40 insured.
    I'm gonna have to check that out although hopefully I won't need to be shipping this thing around much! - actually it was $60 for the packaging, $50 for fedex ground and $50 for $2500 of insurance! Ouch is right

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    So this is slightly off topic but I just bought my first road bike, a 2016 cannondale caad12 105 - the 105 drivetrain is unbelievably smooth - click bang you're shifted - the 2014 xt train on my Tallboy is certainly no slouch but more like click crank bang - not the instant response from the 105 - is this just a road bike vs mountain bike thing or should my XT be shifting just as smoothly and quickly? Granted this is a 2016 105 vs a 2014 xt - love to hear thoughts thanks!

    edit: drivetrain might be the wrong term Im referring specifically to the shifting of gears

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Hightower?

    What cracked...where?

    The area around the LTCs BB.

    SC was very cool about it.

    I was selling the bike to a friend. Based on that I'd already bought another frame, hd3. Friend backed out. Was going to sell the full TB in classifieds. While cleaning I noticed the crack.

    Test rode a HT. Very nice but I'd end up with too many bikes so I'm working out something different.

    Anyway, the rear triangle and cytoe is free to anyone.

    I've also got a wheelset, fork, dropper post,...etc, that went with the frame, that I'm looking to sell off.

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    Hello to all,
    what is for you, actually the best shock to run on a SC Tallboy LT frame.
    One of my friend who own also the same frame but in carbon, is very happy with the Fox float boostvalve version. I'm currently running the shock provided with the frame Fox Float Ctd kashima, that's all. I would like also to keep a descent weight ;-)

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    I decided that Float X was probably overkill and just upgraded to a 2017 fox DPS shock with EVOL sleeve and I couldn't be happier so far. It's a perfect match for the new 34 fork and gives the bike a nice bottomless feel. Huge improvement over the CTD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breaktheory View Post
    So this is slightly off topic but I just bought my first road bike, a 2016 cannondale caad12 105 - the 105 drivetrain is unbelievably smooth - click bang you're shifted - the 2014 xt train on my Tallboy is certainly no slouch but more like click crank bang - not the instant response from the 105 - is this just a road bike vs mountain bike thing or should my XT be shifting just as smoothly and quickly? Granted this is a 2016 105 vs a 2014 xt - love to hear thoughts thanks!

    edit: drivetrain might be the wrong term Im referring specifically to the shifting of gears
    I know what you mean. I have 105 11spd on my roadie as well and it's flawless. I felt the same way until two days ago when I upgraded to XT M8000 and WOW! It's amazing. The action on the shifter is so light and shifts so crisp I find I need to get used to it and not shift down 2-3 gears at a time on accident. The 42t granny gear helps on the climbs but the shifting performance alone if worth the upgrade to the new XT stuff. I'm so happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjohnx77 View Post
    I decided that Float X was probably overkill and just upgraded to a 2017 fox DPS shock with EVOL sleeve and I couldn't be happier so far. It's a perfect match for the new 34 fork and gives the bike a nice bottomless feel. Huge improvement over the CTD.

    -I could not agree more. The new Fox EVOL shock is quality kit!
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    A thumbs up to SC who's ok'd a new frame for my cracked LTc. A simple pic with the original receipt and they were totally cool to deal with.

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    Anyone try a volume spacer in their Fox RP23, and if it worked have a larger one to sell me? I know the shock sucks but figure I would give it a shot as opposed to sending it to PUSH. Or should I just try to find a new Rockshox or Fox shock take off from someone?

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    From my recently deceased LTc, paid spam...

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    Shoot me a text with question.

    Lots of other tasty bits left over from the dead frame, including a Fox Factory Float, and a Spec Blacklite dropper, 125mm, carbon bars, 10 speed xtr/xt drive train, XT brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjohnx77 View Post
    I know what you mean. I have 105 11spd on my roadie as well and it's flawless. I felt the same way until two days ago when I upgraded to XT M8000 and WOW! It's amazing. The action on the shifter is so light and shifts so crisp I find I need to get used to it and not shift down 2-3 gears at a time on accident. The 42t granny gear helps on the climbs but the shifting performance alone if worth the upgrade to the new XT stuff. I'm so happy
    I believe I have the 7800 series...what did you upgrade from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    A thumbs up to SC who's ok'd a new frame for my cracked LTc. A simple pic with the original receipt and they were totally cool to deal with.
    What color and year?

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