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    Beautiful rig. Give us a ride report, and let us know when you are ready to start upgrading the suspension
    Stevie, when I get that Vector coil back from X-Fusion you can take out my custom'd Monarch+ for a spin. Just realize you'll hate the CTD after...HAH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Stevie, when I get that Vector coil back from X-Fusion you can take out my custom'd Monarch+ for a spin. Just realize you'll hate the CTD after...HAH!

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    Sometimes ignorance is bliss, but it does sound like an interesting test.

    As for other money spending opportunities, Did you have a local shop build your carbon wheels? Can you just order parts on line and you know a shop that would be cool with building them? Or did a shop order for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Sometimes ignorance is bliss, but it does sound like an interesting test.

    As for other money spending opportunities, Did you have a local shop build your carbon wheels? Can you just order parts on line and you know a shop that would be cool with building them? Or did a shop order for you?
    Nah... Didn't you see the pics in the PB photo album? I'm ENTIRELY too cheap to have anyone else do work for me

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    Suspension, wheels, everything short of using frame cutting tools I do myself. I found a guy a while back selling a DT Swiss tensiometer for 2 Benjie's on D-town Craiglist...now, I'm fully legit wheel builder...hah!

    Edit: if you need help sizing spokes w/ those CF rims...

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    I think the red pedals are a bigger eye sore to the overall color scheme than the yellow Maxxis lettering.
    Love the pedals so I don't care what color they are. Mallet downhills. Kept them from my previous bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    I know the yellow Maxxis lettering doesn't match the yellow/green on the bike, but it still looks good together.
    That's why they should have moved the Maxis lettering between the Enve decals. Details, Details, Details- it's all in the details.
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    I just installed a ccdba and I'm having a hard time finding recommended settings specific to the TBLT. I would appreciate any ccdba settings you guys have found that works well for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pking View Post
    I just installed a ccdba and I'm having a hard time finding recommended settings specific to the TBLT. I would appreciate any ccdba settings you guys have found that works well for you.
    Try this:

    1.5 HSC
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    Ibis upgraded with DBair CS

    There is a cut and paste from another thread that has a really nice guide for dialing in the shock. I am going on 3 months with the CCDBair CS and I am just getting it figured out, this guide was a big part of that. I was immediately happy with the purchase, however the last few days of adjustments have improved the ride in a massive way. Bike pops on jumps/drops, lands with control gliding out of compression quickly without bucking, maintains contact over brake bumps and small chunk and has significantly less pedal bob. I am 240 geared, so the RP23 was abysmal through mid stroke (250 psi+).
    My CCDB settings are:

    160 psi
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    LSR 8

    FYI, work in progress for me. started at 2,2,7,7

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    Thx for the settings and that linked article is exactly what I needed.

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    Hello people. Left the Rocky Mountain thread and came here (listens for the welcome applause...) Proud owner of a new LTC frame ...

    Right, first up... who has the best solution for faking water bottle mounts somewhere useful on the carbon tubes. Have a bit of an adventure planned across the Alps this summer with the Mrs and want my backpack for clothes and a micro tent and food Thanks!

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    Third ride on this beauty. It's better than every other bike I've ridden, in every way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weevie View Post
    Hello people. Left the Rocky Mountain thread and came here (listens for the welcome applause...) Proud owner of a new LTC frame ...

    Right, first up... who has the best solution for faking water bottle mounts somewhere useful on the carbon tubes. Have a bit of an adventure planned across the Alps this summer with the Mrs and want my backpack for clothes and a micro tent and food Thanks!
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    Just what I was looking for! My LT is built...just waiting for the shock. It should be there when I get home. The problem is I'm immediately going on a group ride and don't have time to set up. What PSI do you recommend for a guy who's 180 pounds naked and 6' tall?

    Any suggestions for a starting point for settings on the 140mm Pike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weevie View Post
    Hello people. Left the Rocky Mountain thread and came here (listens for the welcome applause...) Proud owner of a new LTC frame ...

    Right, first up... who has the best solution for faking water bottle mounts somewhere useful on the carbon tubes. Have a bit of an adventure planned across the Alps this summer with the Mrs and want my backpack for clothes and a micro tent and food Thanks!
    This may provide some ideas.
    Methods for Attaching Water Bottle Cages without screws and bosses | Bicycle Touring for the Long Haul

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    Quote Originally Posted by @dam View Post
    Just what I was looking for! My LT is built...just waiting for the shock. It should be there when I get home. The problem is I'm immediately going on a group ride and don't have time to set up. What PSI do you recommend for a guy who's 180 pounds naked and 6' tall?

    Any suggestions for a starting point for settings on the 140mm Pike?

    If I recall correctly...

    Rear about 165-170.

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    Tallboy LT and LTc Owners Thread

    I hit 45 mph on my TB LTc last night descending a gravelly, loose track with a killer tail wind. I totally spun out my 42x11 at around 35mph. Very stable. The suspension (Fox on descent mode) just ate it up.

    I still love my triple up front. Like to see the 1x crowd do that.


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    Just finished building up my new Tallboy LTc. Most of the local trails are way too muddy to ride just yet, but I demoed an alloy one with a lower spec a few weeks ago in Sedona and liked that, so I'm pretty sure the addition of carbon and a nicer kit will only improve my first impression ;-)

    Some pre-ride observations:

    1) For what it is, it's crazy light. 26.32 lbs. with pedals and reverb dropper in a size large. Almost exactly 3lbs. lighter than my 2010 RIP 9.

    2) The rims are light-bicycle's new "All Mountain" 35mm rim. A bit of a pain to seat the tires given the crazy width, but once they are on they give the tires a *really* wide profile. The 2.35" Schwalbes I have one there look absolutely gigantic.

    3) The picture might not reveal this, but the yellow logos and stripes are basically that 80's neon lime green color (does that have a name?). I was pleasantly surprised by this.

    4) I don't think I'm going to miss a front derailleur.

    5) April sucks here. It rains a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by contemplating View Post
    The rims are light-bicycle's new "All Mountain" 35mm rim. A bit of a pain to seat the tires given the crazy width, but once they are on they give the tires a *really* wide profile. The 2.35" Schwalbes I have one there look absolutely gigantic..
    I'm curious as to how you get on with these. I rode 2.35 Hans Dampf all through last year. Even though there appeared to be a lot of room between the tire and the chain stay I found that the tire has polished away the paint on the chain stay and gone down into the carbon. It's not like my tires get that muddy either - it doesn't much rain here so I can only assume it was through flexing of the wheel.

    Perhaps carbon rims will be better due to stiffness, but you may want to put some hell tape there to protect your stays if you're going fat tires...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNormsk View Post
    I'm curious as to how you get on with these. I rode 2.35 Hans Dampf all through last year. Even though there appeared to be a lot of room between the tire and the chain stay I found that the tire has polished away the paint on the chain stay and gone down into the carbon. It's not like my tires get that muddy either - it doesn't much rain here so I can only assume it was through flexing of the wheel.

    Perhaps carbon rims will be better due to stiffness, but you may want to put some hell tape there to protect your stays if you're going fat tires...
    I've never had to tape the stays on any bike before, but I just looked and space is a bit tight. I'll throw some tape on as a preventive measure, see what I see after a month, and report back.

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    I'll post up pictures of the "damage" to my stays at the weekend after I clean the bike. It's a bit muddy now after last night's ride?

    Oh wait, did I say it doesn't much rain around here? Well actually that's true, the mud is from snow melt so the "damage" could be from mud after all... I'm now approaching 2000 miles and nearly two years (in August) on my TB LTc and it has had a fair bit of abuse and a handful of crashes now. It still looks good (from afar). When you inspect it up close the paint on mine has taken a hammering

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    So I have a tallboy ltc on order, should be done this week. The local shop has a brand new takeoff pike 160 off a new intense carbine they will put on for $200 extra. Is it worth it?

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    I think 160 is pushing it, but you can lower it if you need to. They would take the Fox and $200?

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    Yeah, I was thinking I'd lower it, I'll ride it first and see though. They will take $200 plus my Fox. Does that sound like they are giving me a deal?

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    Given that you are trading take off for take off and both forks have similar MSRPs, not really. Just to confirm: it's a Factory Float 34 CTD with Kashima coating?

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    Yeah, that's what mine comes with.

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    So are you saying you think it should be a wash? I'll talk to them tomorrow about it.

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    Tallboy LT and LTc Owners Thread

    My LBS ordered me a new 140 Pike and took the my factory fox from my LTC.... Even swap.


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    I didn't know the Float and the Pike had the same retail price, but even so, the Pike seems to have the killer reputation right now.
    The bike shop probably can't sell the Float as easily as the Pike, so an even swap probably doesn't interest them. Plus they will have some labor and inventory costs in making the swap.

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    How much does it cost to take it down to 150mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaseco View Post
    How much does it cost to take it down to 150mm
    Also, new Pikes come with a shock pump, a seal kit, and extra bottomless tokens. Make sure you get these. Also make sure it is an RCT3 Pike. There are OE versions that have fewer adjustments. I think $100 is closer to a fair price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    Also, new Pikes come with a shock pump, a seal kit, and extra bottomless tokens. Make sure you get these. Also make sure it is an RCT3 Pike. There are OE versions that have fewer adjustments. I think $100 is closer to a fair price.
    Yep - I'd dicker and get them down from the $200 to closer to $100.

    The bike should be run at 140mm up front.... but that's a different issue and I'll keep quiet.

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    Thanks guys I'll see what they say tomorrow.

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    Question for those of you with X01 or XX1 on your tallboys - SC specs them with a 34t chainring. Doesn't that seem a little tall? I'm back to biking after 7 year hiatus, so don't really have much frame of reference...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTB View Post
    Question for those of you with X01 or XX1 on your tallboys - SC specs them with a 34t chainring. Doesn't that seem a little tall? I'm back to biking after 7 year hiatus, so don't really have much frame of reference...
    It would be a bit tall for me. I think the best way to size 1x11 drivetrains on a trail bike is to think of the lowest gear you need on a conventional 2x10 or 3x10 with a 36 large cog in the back. Then pick the front chainring to give you the equivalent with the 42 that the SRAM 1x11 drivetrains have. I would personally go with 30t or even 28t if I had a lot of extended, steep climbs to do.

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    I'm running a 30 up front on x-01 coming off a 3x10 and think its great for the uphills


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    Quote Originally Posted by JTB View Post
    Question for those of you with X01 or XX1 on your tallboys - SC specs them with a 34t chainring. Doesn't that seem a little tall? I'm back to biking after 7 year hiatus, so don't really have much frame of reference...
    I had the same thought regarding the Bronson I just bought. Turned out I was right - for climbing out here in Colorado, the 34T is a little bit steep. Doable, but not much fun on a long, grinding climb. I just bought a 30T chainring (thanks, Backcountry.com 20% off coupon!), so hopefully that'll improve things without completely killing my ability to maintain speed on rolling terrain at the high end of the cassette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTB View Post
    Question for those of you with X01 or XX1 on your tallboys - SC specs them with a 34t chainring. Doesn't that seem a little tall? I'm back to biking after 7 year hiatus, so don't really have much frame of reference...
    I took that 34t off before my first ride

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    I have run 32,30,28 & 26 & although I could push the 32 on my steepest climbs, It was hard & I didn't feel like I was getting it back at the other end on my trails.

    So I kept going smaller until I thought I may have been loosing something at the top end.

    So I have settled on 28 tooth on 2 bikes & 26 on another, I also still have bikes with 2x10 but don't really ride them that much, More because I like my other bikes more.
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    It's going to be a good biking season
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    It's going to be a good biking season
    Sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamer41 View Post
    Sweet!

    Where's this?

    Mt. Herman. Monument Colorado (Front Range north of Colorado Springs).

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    Anyone ever have to replace the rubber bumper on the lower pivot/link?? I just inspected and regreased the bearings and the bumper was torn. Need a part number, so I can reorder one.

    Also noticed there is some play now when you compress and release the the suspension. This is right before u even start to decompess the shock. Not sure this is the result of the bumper being degraded. All bolts have been retorqued to spec.
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    My bumper tore out probably after the first 2 weeks of riding.

    Does it really do anything important?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkyrides View Post
    Anyone ever have to replace the rubber bumper on the lower pivot/link?? I just inspected and regreased the bearings and the bumper was torn. Need a part number, so I can reorder one.

    Also noticed there is some play now when you compress and release the the suspension. This is right before u even start to decompess the shock. Not sure this is the result of the bumper being degraded. All bolts have been retorqued to spec.
    Sounds like the du bushing at the rear shock eyelet. Highly recommend the roller bearings from real world cycling. http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id275.html.
    I have no interest in the company, just have found the product to be a long lasting improvement to the stock bushing. There is a lot of rotation at that bushing, and the bearing is the way to go....
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    Quote Originally Posted by reamer41 View Post
    Sounds like the du bushing at the rear shock eyelet. Highly recommend the roller bearings from real world cycling. RWC SHOCK EYE NEEDLE BEARING KITS.
    I have no interest in the company, just have found the product to be a long lasting improvement to the stock bushing. There is a lot of rotation at that bushing, and the bearing is the way to go....
    Thks Reamer, I'll take another look at that bushing and possibly upgrade as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkyrides View Post
    Anyone ever have to replace the rubber bumper on the lower pivot/link?? I just inspected and regreased the bearings and the bumper was torn. Need a part number, so I can reorder one.

    Also noticed there is some play now when you compress and release the the suspension. This is right before u even start to decompess the shock. Not sure this is the result of the bumper being degraded. All bolts have been retorqued to spec.
    This page has the exploded views with part numbers for your bike, but I agree that the play you feel isn't caused by the rubber bumper.

    Tallboy LT 1c - Exploded View Assembly | Santa Cruz Bicycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkyrides View Post
    Thks Reamer, I'll take another look at that bushing and possibly upgrade as well.
    Reamer was correct. Pulled the lower shock collars off and the bushing was toast. Little more worn on the drive side. The collar was looking a little worn as well. I just happen to have a package of bushings laying around and pressed the new one in for my ride this morning. That's 1,000 miles of hard use for those who track milage and wearable items.

    Thanks again Reamer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkyrides View Post
    Reamer was correct. Pulled the lower shock collars off and the bushing was toast. Little more worn on the drive side. The collar was looking a little worn as well. I just happen to have a package of bushings laying around and pressed the new one in for my ride this morning. That's 1,000 miles of hard use for those who track milage and wearable items.

    Thanks again Reamer.
    Glad I could help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    This page has the exploded views with part numbers for your bike, but I agree that the play you feel isn't caused by the rubber bumper.

    Tallboy LT 1c - Exploded View Assembly | Santa Cruz Bicycles
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