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    Still working with Santa Cruz to figure out why my tire rubs my seat tube. They want to know my part numbers on my upper and lower links and I can't find them anywhere. Also, my RP23 Boost Valve tune is 225, do other riders with this shock have the same tune?? Thanks for your help!!!

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    Tallboy LT and LTc Owners Thread

    I saw the write up on Art's blog for Cory's bike. Wish he'd explained the shock choice. Everything else is pretty obvious (IMO since I have it sans carbon wheels), but the shock is novel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    Rear drop-out question...

    The non-drive side rear drop is a hub to carbon interface, correct?

    I mean, my frame has no metal insert, or spacer, in that area to buffer the carbon drop from the hub end.

    The drive side has a metal insert connected to the RD hanger.

    While the rear wheel fits perfectly as is, and no signs of adverse wear, it does seem like there should be something in there to protect the carbon from the hub end. I want to be sure I didn't loose a frame part.

    Anyone able to take a look at their frame?

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    Re: Tallboy LT and LTc Owners Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    Anyone able to take a look at their frame?
    Had the wheel off my bike yesterday putting on some IceTech rotors...yes, direct carbon contact. But my rr hub is a King and they have that smooth steel c-ring that snaps onto the axle end...no teeth to bite into the carbon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Had the wheel off my bike yesterday putting on some IceTech rotors...yes, direct carbon contact. But my rr hub is a King and they have that smooth steel c-ring that snaps onto the axle end...no teeth to bite into the carbon.
    Thanks.

    Yep, I've got the Kings too and it fits great, but just wanted to be sure.

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    How is this for customer service... I'm the second owner of my slightly used Tallboy LT frame and rode it for a total of an hour and a half. Discovered a frame issue and SC is giving me a new frame. Cheers Santa Cruz!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    Thanks.

    Yep, I've got the Kings too and it fits great, but just wanted to be sure.
    Just checked my wife's Bronson and it's the same.

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    Complete Custom Build, Derby Wheels w/ I9 Hubs

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    Thanks Hillarman. Only had one ride w/ the DB and Pike and the fork was the wrong offset so it will need some work. could use some pedals... i like the custom pike decals. It really ties the blue/black/white theme together.

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    Anyone measured the chain growth on a TBLTc?

    Converting to 1 x 10 and trying to work out what rear mech to use.

    Thanks.

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    Not sure about chain growth, but fwiw, I have 28tooth crank and 36 tooth Max in the rear cog, and I'm using a short cage Shimano Zee derailleur without any issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lejordi View Post
    Anyone measured the chain growth on a TBLTc?

    Converting to 1 x 10 and trying to work out what rear mech to use.

    Thanks.
    I run a med cage derailleur with a 2 X 10. Largest rear cog is 42 and front chain ring 38. You should be able to run a short cage derailleur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpo1 View Post
    I run a med cage derailleur with a 2 X 10. Largest rear cog is 42 and front chain ring 38. You should be able to run a short cage derailleur.
    20th with a 42 cog? What size is your small chainring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    20th with a 42 cog? What size is your small chainring?
    Ha. I don't know what I was thinking. My largest rear cog is a 36 and my smallest chainring is a 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpo1 View Post
    Ha. I don't know what I was thinking. My largest rear cog is a 36 and my smallest chainring is a 22.
    This is what I run. I checked out the 42T conversion thing and did a quick calc w/ my 22T ring...I think I might have a hard time keeping the front wheel on the ground w/ that combo. But if I up'd the front ring to a 24, then it's a reasonable jump and don't think I'd have an issue w/ keeping the front wheel down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    This is what I run. I checked out the 42T conversion thing and did a quick calc w/ my 22T ring...I think I might have a hard time keeping the front wheel on the ground w/ that combo. But if I up'd the front ring to a 24, then it's a reasonable jump and don't think I'd have an issue w/ keeping the front wheel down.
    OneUp recommends no smaller than 26 up front. Any lower and you risk damaging the hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    OneUp recommends no smaller than 26 up front. Any lower and you risk damaging the hub.
    Even w/ Ti or steel driveshells?
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    I don't think they specify. I would send them an email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Even w/ Ti or steel driveshells?
    The driveshell material definitely matters.

    It is also interesting to note that torque on the hub is the same regardless of ring size, if you are moving the bike at the same speed. Big cogs create a bigger lever arm, but lower force. Small cogs, smaller lever, bigger force. Torque is the same.

    The damage from a big cog would come if you smashed down on the pedals and the wheel was blocked and couldn't turn. So there is some risk, but there is no magic line between a 26 and 24 ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    This is what I run. I checked out the 42T conversion thing and did a quick calc w/ my 22T ring...I think I might have a hard time keeping the front wheel on the ground w/ that combo. But if I up'd the front ring to a 24, then it's a reasonable jump and don't think I'd have an issue w/ keeping the front wheel down.
    I'm lost. Are you talking about a 22x42 low?!

    And how does that effect keeping your front wheel down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    The driveshell material definitely matters.

    It is also interesting to note that torque on the hub is the same regardless of ring size, if you are moving the bike at the same speed. Big cogs create a bigger lever arm, but lower force. Small cogs, smaller lever, bigger force. Torque is the same.

    The damage from a big cog would come if you smashed down on the pedals and the wheel was blocked and couldn't turn. So there is some risk, but there is no magic line between a 26 and 24 ring.
    Just passing on info from their site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    Just passing on info from their site.
    Right man I know. Its a similar thing with rotor size limits that fork manufacturers set. They do it for liability reasons, but I was just explaining the physics behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    How'd you pull this off?
    Hey hill, notice that black Monarch damper body on the new Nomad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Hey hill, notice that black Monarch damper body on the new Nomad?
    I did... do you have one/are you going to get one? The larger volume positive and negative chambers sounds like a great improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Hey hill, notice that black Monarch damper body on the new Nomad?
    The real question is: where is the black Lyrik with 160-180mm travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    The real question is: where is the black Lyrik with 160-180mm travel?
    That's called an X-Fusion Vengeance
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    Had dreams about carbon wheels last night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    That's called an X-Fusion Vengeance
    Needs black stanchions!

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    Who can tell me which Wolftooth direct mount ring to order for the X1 crank on my TBLTc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Who can tell me which Wolftooth direct mount ring to order for the X1 crank on my TBLTc?
    Neither of the ones in that picture, as they are both BB30. You need the ring for the GXP cranks.

    Direct Mount for SRAM GXP Cranks – wolftoothcomponents.com

    Hope that helps.

    Edit: I now see that the long spindle BB30 and GXP rings are the same, but regardless, you have GXP cranks, so you need the GXP ring.

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    That's what I thought. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    I'm lost. Are you talking about a 22x42 low?!

    And how does that effect keeping your front wheel down?
    Too much torque to the rear wheel. I already have to watch it w/ a 22/36...the wheel comes up pretty easily in the steep ups.

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    Re: Tallboy LT and LTc Owners Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Had dreams about carbon wheels last night
    You're welcome

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    Re: Tallboy LT and LTc Owners Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    Needs black stanchions!
    Sharpie Magnum...best I can do.

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    Not too many pictures of the new carbon with green (which is really more yellow IMO) in this thread, so here's my new baby, straight out of the bike shop.
    It was a very emotional moment, almost felt like picking up my first born from the hospital
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Not too many pictures of the new carbon with green (which is really more yellow IMO) in this thread, so here's my new baby, straight out of the bike shop.
    It was a very emotional moment, almost felt like picking up my first born from the hospital
    Beautiful rig. Give us a ride report, and let us know when you are ready to start upgrading the suspension

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Not too many pictures of the new carbon with green (which is really more yellow IMO) in this thread, so here's my new baby, straight out of the bike shop.
    It was a very emotional moment, almost felt like picking up my first born from the hospital
    Nice... I have one on order in this color (although I preferred the 2013 with orange TBH).

    Are the tires High Rollers II? That's what the specs mention on SC website, but their picture has Ardents on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTB View Post
    Nice... I have one on order in this color (although I preferred the 2013 with orange TBH).

    Are the tires High Rollers II? That's what the specs mention on SC website, but their picture has Ardents on it.
    Yeah they are putting the Higher Roller 2's on them. Tubeless with Stans.
    I like the Ardents, but these seem pretty similar to Ardents, in terms of block height and even the tread pattern.

    I think last years orange looked nicer also!

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    Thanks! I was hoping for the High Rollers.

    I'm jealous - can't wait to get my hands on mine - should be here by the end of April. The wait is killing me...

    What an awesome bike - hope you have fun with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTB View Post
    Thanks! I was hoping for the High Rollers.

    I'm jealous - can't wait to get my hands on mine - should be here by the end of April. The wait is killing me...

    What an awesome bike - hope you have fun with it!
    I didn't know there was a wait on them. Luckily, my shop had this one in the box on the shelf.

    I hope I have fun with it too. Tomorrow was going to be my first "real ride" on it, but a snowstorm blew in last night. I guess I'll have to go skiing instead. Life is rough.

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    SC is out of the black frames (blue is in stock aparently) at the moment but is getting a new shipment in a couple weeks. My dealer had one in stock, but not my size...

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    I have the same colors and I love them!!! As stated above the HRs come on them and I put an ardent on the rear. Love the high roller up front but wanted a faster rolling tire out back. LBS let me swap the fox for the Pike and wow!!! Defiantly impressed and a huge upgrade in performance.

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    Tallboy LT and LTc Owners Thread

    Here's a pic when I picked it up


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoop5 View Post
    Here's a pic when I picked it up


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    Sick!!! Did you snatch my bike though? I ordered the exact same config - Enve wheels with yellow outline decals. Do the Enve decals match the yellow on the frame more or less?

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    Yep.... Looks great together!!!


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    I know the yellow Maxxis lettering doesn't match the yellow/green on the bike, but it still looks good together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    I know the yellow Maxxis lettering doesn't match the yellow/green on the bike, but it still looks good together.
    I think the red pedals are a bigger eye sore to the overall color scheme than the yellow Maxxis lettering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    I think the red pedals are a bigger eye sore to the overall color scheme than the yellow Maxxis lettering.
    Yes I was hoping they were just the shops test ride pedals.

    The shop tried to talk me into fluorescent green pedals but I stuck with some nice gray Azonics for a more sophisticated look

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