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    Superlight 29 Rxc what would you upgrade first?

    Bored as heck since it's been raining for a week. Just got a Superlight 29 and was wondering what you experts would upgrade first-for around a couple hun and besides tires. Thanks for any input.
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    There is a 50/50 chance the elixir 5s on your bike suck, so i'd start there. Bluesky has SLX for screaming deal right now.

    Other than that, swapping the stem, bar and grips made a huge difference on mine.
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    Superlight 29 Rxc what would you upgrade first?

    I put some Burgtec offset bushings in mine to slacken the H/A 1deg....

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    We are in process of upgrading my wifes, we ordered a bashguard to get rid of the big ring and will be getting a new midcage rear derailleur, lock on ODI ruffian grips, Maxxis Ardent 2.25 front tire and some new SLX cranks, gravity dropper seatpost and probably some SLX brakes. After all this it sould be a great all around bike for her.
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    I did, in this order... Your needs will vary based on riding style and location...

    XT brakes
    Flat EC70 handlebar (I was lifting up the front end on tech climbs with the stock riser)
    ODI lock-ons
    Carbon seatpost (was on sale)

    Up next:
    New tires once the crossmarks die
    Maybe a new wheelset if something pops up
    A more dude-friendly saddle

    While you're ordering, grab 3-5 derailleur hangers. I went through 2 in the past 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    There is a 50/50 chance the elixir 5s on your bike suck, so i'd start there. Bluesky has SLX for screaming deal right now.

    Other than that, swapping the stem, bar and grips made a huge difference on mine.

    This is all. End of thread.
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    My upgrades:

    Ergon lock-on grips
    Removed big ring and replaced with Saint bashguard.
    Replaced saddle with Adamo Prologue (*highly* recommended as a "dude friendly" saddle)
    Sun Ringle Black Flag comp wheelset
    Racing Ralph 2.4 Front, Performance Tsali 2.2 R (running tubeless)
    Weight is 29.0 lbs in a size Medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    I did, in this order... Your needs will vary based on riding style and location...

    XT brakes
    Flat EC70 handlebar (I was lifting up the front end on tech climbs with the stock riser)
    ODI lock-ons
    Carbon seatpost (was on sale)

    Up next:
    New tires once the crossmarks die
    Maybe a new wheelset if something pops up
    A more dude-friendly saddle

    While you're ordering, grab 3-5 derailleur hangers. I went through 2 in the past 6 months.
    does the superlight support the new direct mount hangers? I was bending my derailleur hanger on my LTc every few rides (without even crashing) but once I switched to the direct mount things have been a lot more stable. I had one hard crash that tweaked it but I could bend it back by hand.

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    Things I have changed:
    ODI lock-on grips
    2.25 UST Ardents - I like the stock Crossmarks but they were not the UST version.
    XT brakes - the Elixer 5s are not horrible but the XTs are quite a bit better.
    The Cane Creek 10 was hard to adjust so I got a green Chris King - looks great on the black frame with green Santa Cruz.

    Bent the hanger pretty easily - I would recommend a backup or 2.

    Next on the list:
    One can shave off a fair amount of weight by replacing the bars and stem.
    I have a 2012 Superlight so I have the 100mm Rockshox Reba. I might get a 120mm Fox or another Reba - can't seem to make a decision on this. Mostly the 100mm is fine but there are those times...
    I need another set of wheels as backups.
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    I cut my bars, added some ergo grips, decent front tire, bash guard and started racing it. Looks like my next purchase may be a new shock as mine is blown.

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    Hi, have you actually tried it? I've been mulling over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhemmerde View Post
    Hi, have you actually tried it? I've been mulling over it.
    Tried what?
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    The offset bushings in a superlight

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhemmerde View Post
    The offset bushings in a superlight
    Who makes them for a Superlight 29? Checked Burgtec but didn't see any for the SL.

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    Yeah, they don't show the model, but don't know the dimensions for the bushings, you can also get them that way I think.

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    Have the d kit been riding since August
    Stock CC 10 Headset is crap, plastic rings. replaced after it self destructed with CC 40
    Grips to Ergons
    Race Face 70mm stem
    Stans Flow w/Hope Pro2 on front (had a Crest hoop, destroyed it)
    Stans Crest w/Hope Pro2 on rear
    Nobby Nic front and rear, 2.25, setup tubless
    Stock Elixer 1s lasted about 6 months, warranty replaced with 3s, so far so good
    Stock BB wore out. Replaced Race Face Turbine
    30.5 pounds large frame

    Interested to hear what others weigh in at

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgerow View Post
    Stock CC 10 Headset is crap, plastic rings. replaced after it self destructed with CC 40
    First time I've heard this - what were the warning signs, just looseness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    First time I've heard this - what were the warning signs, just looseness?
    Yeah, loose. I didn't do the work, but the shop took it apart and said the cups/rings were busted, and they are plastic. It is baically Cane Creeks entry level headset. Lasted maybe 6 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgerow View Post
    Yeah, loose. I didn't do the work, but the shop took it apart and said the cups/rings were busted, and they are plastic. It is baically Cane Creeks entry level headset. Lasted maybe 6 months
    Good to know. I've been on mine for about that long without issue as of yet.

    I did hear a creaking sound during a rough climb a couple weeks ago. Brought it in and the shop said it was nothing. Turns out it was my shoe platforms creaking on the Time peals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    Good to know. I've been on mine for about that long without issue as of yet.

    I did hear a creaking sound during a rough climb a couple weeks ago. Brought it in and the shop said it was nothing. Turns out it was my shoe platforms creaking on the Time peals.
    Don't forget, as I mentioned in my first post I have the "D" kit, which has a lot of lower end stuff on it. The OP has an R kit which is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgerow View Post
    Don't forget, as I mentioned in my first post I have the "D" kit, which has a lot of lower end stuff on it. The OP has an R kit which is better
    Yeah, I have the R kit as well, but they share the same headset.

    For what it's worth, I replaced my Avid brakes with XT before I even took the first ride as I knew they would be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgerow View Post
    Have the d kit been riding since August
    Stock CC 10 Headset is crap, plastic rings. replaced after it self destructed with CC
    30.5 pounds large frame

    Interested to hear what others weigh in at
    That's pretty heavy for a SL29. My L Rxc was 27.7 without pedals.

    Quote Originally Posted by wgerow View Post
    Yeah, loose. I didn't do the work, but the shop took it apart and said the cups/rings were busted, and they are plastic. It is baically Cane Creeks entry level headset. Lasted maybe 6 months
    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    Good to know. I've been on mine for about that long without issue as of yet.
    As my luck would have it, I've had the CC 10 on all four of our SC bikes and never had an issue.
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    My weigh in is with pedals (30.5 pounds) size large also.

    Considering the above changes/upgrades I have made, including Stans Flow front and Crest rear (both Hope Pro2 hubs) setup tubeless (w/Nobby nics).....what would be the best bang for buck to shed some weight.

    Some thoughts: still have stock seat, seat post, triple crankset, cassette.

    Pedals are SPDs from about 10-12 years ago. not sure of their weight but everytime I have removed them they sure feel heavy.

    would be nice th shed a pound or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgerow View Post
    Have the d kit been riding since August
    Stock CC 10 Headset is crap, plastic rings. replaced after it self destructed with CC 40
    Grips to Ergons
    Race Face 70mm stem
    Stans Flow w/Hope Pro2 on front (had a Crest hoop, destroyed it)
    Stans Crest w/Hope Pro2 on rear
    Nobby Nic front and rear, 2.25, setup tubless
    Stock Elixer 1s lasted about 6 months, warranty replaced with 3s, so far so good
    Stock BB wore out. Replaced Race Face Turbine
    30.5 pounds large frame

    Interested to hear what others weigh in at
    How do you like the 70mm stem? I'm 5'11" 32 inseam and just came off a medium Spearfish which I love. First impression of the SL is it's not as snappy turning as the Fish. I'm taking it out tonight for a trailride and I'll know more. It's a large And I have a 100mm stem and Thomson setback post. Same build kit that was on my Spearfish. The front end seems a bit harder to pull up than the SF but the wheelbase is also an inch longer. Same chainstay length.

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    I like the 70mm stem a lot. Although I am only 5'8" with 32" inseam. Regular seatpost.

    I have been riding the bike for almost exactly 12 months.....this week I happen to be riding a 26" Heckler as my SL is in the shop. First time back on a 26" bike in 12 mos. The Heckler is certainly more snappy, more playful, and front end comes up nice. I do miss the big wheels though for overall ride. Don't get me wrong, I really like the SL and can't wait to get back on it.

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    2012 R XC Kit Upgrade

    Been having my Superlight 29er for a year, bought July 2012. Everything that I have done has made the bike that much better of a trail bike. Don't know about you, but with all of these different wheel size bikes, I just feel tapped out. So, decided to keep my bike and upgrade parts that I know perform better as I continually ride trails. Hopefully, if you are looking at the best way to upgrade the Superlight 29er, I mapped it out for you here.

    So my upgrade evolution is as follows:
    1st Day - Dropped the wheels for Easton EA XC 90 and Specialized Captain Sworks in 2.0 size still with tubes.
    1st Week - Dropped the lame Avid 5 brakes for XT brakes.
    3rd month - Dropped the cassette, chain, crank, shifters for all XT drivetrain.
    6th month - Dropped handlebars, 85mm stem, Truvativ post for Thompson post and 70mm stem and Easton EC 70 650mm riser bars.
    7th month - Dropped Easton Wheels for Custom built Dave Speed Dream wheels with Stans Crest / King hubs.
    8th month - Went with Thompson 50mm stem and Haven 711 mm low riser bars.
    Last month - Dropped Thompson post for Rockshox Reverb dropper post. Went tubeless with Stan's juice and added Specialized Ground Control 2.1 size tires.

    Whew! I think that is everything.

    By far the best upgrade is the wheels. Not a cheap option, however no way am I willing to pay 3 grand on carbon wheels. I really think that a custom wheel set made for you, by someone who knows how to build wheels, is an immediate payoff. If you decide to go tubeless (shame to say it took me this long to do this), I have nothing but good things to say about the tubeless conversion as long as you stay away from the Sworks ($70)version tires. They do not hold air! Once I went to the lower price ($55) units, it was an easy process and I dig it!
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    Mine is sitting at 28lbs. I would really like to knock off a few lbs.
    Large frame. Specialized 90mm Pro set stem, Thomsom Elite setback, Sun Blag Flag with SWorks Fastraks set up tubeless, XT 11-34, Stylo crank 22-32 with Salsa bash, SWorks Prowess Carbon rise bar,WTB Lazer V,Shimano 520's, Elixer 3SL, Fox F29 and Cane Creek 10.
    Not alot of places to trim weight and still be a solid trail bike. I will swap out the Elixers for Deore hydros when I get the time but weight will be the same. I also am getting some binding from the headset. I thought it was steering bad then checked it on the stand and when tight enough to to not rattle I get binding. I tried swapping some bearings from a Cane Creek 40 and that didn't help. I hate to chance it but prob gonna have to got with Chris King. The more I ride this the more I love the rear suspension. SC has the single pivot nailed.

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    Here is the beauty. The sun face came back home with me from my trip to Brown County!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Mine is sitting at 28lbs. I would really like to knock off a few lbs.
    Large frame. Specialized 90mm Pro set stem, Thomsom Elite setback, Sun Blag Flag with SWorks Fastraks set up tubeless, XT 11-34, Stylo crank 22-32 with Salsa bash, SWorks Prowess Carbon rise bar,WTB Lazer V,Shimano 520's, Elixer 3SL, Fox F29 and Cane Creek 10.
    Not alot of places to trim weight and still be a solid trail bike. I will swap out the Elixers for Deore hydros when I get the time but weight will be the same. I also am getting some binding from the headset. I thought it was steering bad then checked it on the stand and when tight enough to to not rattle I get binding. I tried swapping some bearings from a Cane Creek 40 and that didn't help. I hate to chance it but prob gonna have to got with Chris King. The more I ride this the more I love the rear suspension. SC has the single pivot nailed.
    I had trouble with my Cane Creek 10 too. Replaced it. Apparently the 10 has some plastic components. I don't know why they would even bother. Mine lasted maybe 6 months

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    Looking into upgrading wheels next.

    Anyone know what the stock wheels weigh for comparison?

    And what wheels have you guys thrown on to good effect?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Stock wheels came in around 1925 grams. The Easton EA90 xc which was 1720 I believe. Like the wheels, still have them and may throw them on another bike. What it didn't like was a 19mm inside diameter, felt like the tire would roll sideways if that makes sense. Dave Speed Dream set came in at 1686 grams with stans tape. 21mm wide rim just makes the tire more expansive and easier tubeless set up, which means they pumped up with a floor pump. The wheels have a more solid feel as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25lbs&counting View Post
    Stock wheels came in around 1925 grams. The Easton EA90 xc which was 1720 I believe. Like the wheels, still have them and may throw them on another bike. What it didn't like was a 19mm inside diameter, felt like the tire would roll sideways if that makes sense. Dave Speed Dream set came in at 1686 grams with stans tape. 21mm wide rim just makes the tire more expansive and easier tubeless set up, which means they pumped up with a floor pump. The wheels have a more solid feel as well.
    Awesome, thanks!

    Gave Dave a call.

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    How much does this bike weigh?

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