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  1. #1
    mtbr member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005

    Steep climbing with the Tallboy question

    Dear TB-riders,
    I own a tallboy for 3 years now.
    Also ride a rigid hardtail (Air9).
    Both have the same gearing: double 36/22 and 11/32.
    However, on my Tb, I experience severe leg-burning, on steep climbs in the last 1/4 part of marathons, be it race or casual riding.
    Did a 105km ride yesterday with about 1100 altimeters with the Tb.
    Been in the granny and 32 sprocket alot on those final climbs...
    On the flats or false flats however I could still maintain around 30k/u, even on the latest tracks at km 104.

    A week ago I did a race with the rigid Air9: 70km with 1400 altimeters.
    Here I could ride lots of the climbs on my 36 chainwheel.
    Even on the last climbs I could push till I got out of breath, whereas with the Tb my legs get sore first and I end up with a 'breath-surplus' on a particular 'late-in the race-climb', to revive again on the flat after the climb.
    Overall, averaged, I was faster on the rigid, though I lost some time on the descents where the Tb is far superior.

    It feels like the VPP2 is 'eating' some of the power on steep climbs.
    Should I fiddle more with the Monarch RT3 shock?

    Perhaps some tuning might help?
    I ride @ 25%sag.
    Or am I a 'hardtail' guy?

  2. #2
    Get to dah choppah
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    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    IMO check your knee to pedal spindle position. Particularly if you have the stock Thompson post with no setback you may be too far forward, which stresses your quads. Get back and lower...
    Santa Cruz TBc
    Pivot 429c

  3. #3
    some know me as mongo
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    maybe go a bit less in the sag department. I know on my nomad if I run about 25% sag the bike does not squat nearly as much as if I run the recommended 30% but I do lose some travel useage as well

  4. #4
    mtbr member
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Maybe I missing something here, but you're comparing climbing on a HT to a FS, of course you're losing some power that's a given and it's not just VPP it's any FS.
    Tallboy 3
    OG Ripley v2
    Carver 420 TI

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