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    Finally!

    Seems like there was a little delay in getting tapered 120's from fox, but it's all good. Weather is getting better and was able to take it for a nice ride Tuesday. So far I'm really impressed. Will post up thoughts after a few more rides. Looks sweet! Waiting on mntn king 2.4 for front
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    scrapes

    I have already scraped both side of the rear triangle by the grease ports, anyone else done this? were the bottom bolts are. I just put some tape on them and carry on if the carbon fiber frame can take it from me your all safe I brake everything!!! hahaha
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Man FTR you have a nice bike stable by now.

    This bike is gonna be a nice one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpichu
    I have already scraped both side of the rear triangle by the grease ports, anyone else done this? were the bottom bolts are. I just put some tape on them and carry on if the carbon fiber frame can take it from me your all safe I brake everything!!! hahaha
    Same here, only somehow I only managed to scrape the non drive side. Like you, I sure hope that the carbon in that location is somewhat impact resistant.

    I think I've narrowed down which log is the culprit... need to work a little more finess getting over it.

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    Scrapes

    I been really wrecking this bike this weekend I took another fall I am really not that bad of a rider but getting used to the bike has def been hard on my body! Oh not a scrape on the bike I can say its really tough I hope my spills stop though
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    My XL Tallboy:

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    Without getting into any arguments about weight, I can tell you it's pretty damn light. But, more importantly it rides even better than it looks

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    Looks Great Frame. I'm curious how tall you are. I'm debating between the XL and XXL. Your frame looks well proportioned for your height. Guessing it's around 26 pounds but like you say it's light, that's all I need to know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Frame
    My XL Tallboy:

    Without getting into any arguments about weight, I can tell you it's pretty damn light. But, more importantly it rides even better than it looks

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    Hi Serenity. I am 1.95m or 6'4". The XL feels right for me. As for the weight, I used the scale at my LBS today which confirmed my crude bathroom scale: 22lb 13oz, or 10.33 kg. With pedals and sealant.

    Show your Tallboys picture thread? Is there one?-dsc03167.jpg

    The build, if you're interested:
    XL frame with Fox suspension. 100mm fork
    Chris King headset
    Easton Monkeylite SL bar
    Titec pluto x-lite stem
    XTR shifters with Yumeya cables
    Formula R1 brakes 160mm floating rotors F/R
    Titec pork rind grips
    XTR crankset with 180mm cranks
    XTR cassette
    KMC SL9 chain
    Stans crow tyres 2.0
    Stans 355 rims
    alloy nipples
    DT Aerolite spokes
    DT 240s front hub
    DT 190 rear hub
    4ti eggbeaters
    Thomson masterpiece layback 350mm (at its limit)
    Selle Italia SLR kit carbonio saddle
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    crazy light

    I never tought i would see an xl 22 pound 29er, that is insane. How are the 355 stans? I have the arches on my build and wanted some lighter wheels but I was not sure the 355 would take the pounding.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpichu
    I never tought i would see an xl 22 pound 29er, that is insane. How are the 355 stans? I have the arches on my build and wanted some lighter wheels but I was not sure the 355 would take the pounding.
    I'm also not sure! So far so good. I've only been on 4 rides on the bike. Did a 2 hr ride on the weekend with a few rock gardens and things, but nothing scary. I have had 190 hubs and aerolite spokes on a HiFi for some time, so I'm confident with them. Difference is those wheels have Edge rims which I suspect are way stiffer and stronger than the 355's. I change tires often though, and I really battle to run the Edges tubeless. A real PITA as far as that goes. I decided to give the 355's a try. Very light and more practical than the Edges. I build my own wheels, and I spent more time getting these perfect than I have ever spent before. I tensioned them [B]slightly[B] tighter than Stans recommend (10%) and they turned out well. They feel pretty stiff, and I'm sure they'll be OK. I'll be sure to report back if I taco one. If I survive... I'm 200 lbs BTW
    One thing I can tell you is that this bike is a HUGE step up in performance from the HiFi which I also built up really light. The Tallboy is awesome, I'm sure you'd agree.

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    Cool I want to build another wheelset with 355s and american classic hubs so I might do it thanks for the info. I was riding a Sjumpumer 29er before the TB and I am really enjoying mine as well.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Race/Crash video

    My Tallboy on it's first race - and a little crash.
    http://www.cyclingtrek.org/video/Coyote%20Classic.wmv

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    Quote Originally Posted by red5jedi
    My Tallboy on it's first race - and a little crash.
    http://www.cyclingtrek.org/video/Coyote%20Classic.wmv

    Were you able to retrieve your Garmin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikej
    Were you able to retrieve your Garmin?

    I didnít notice it was missing until I crossed the finish line. Lucky for me there were some honest people that returned it to me when I went back to the where I crashed.

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    Stock XT set up for the most part. Gravity DX headset w/ Easton stem @ 130. I run a 120mm fork--it's a XXL, tires are FR3 team issue Bontrags. Wgt 28.6, no complaints, solid bike for jamming around.


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    Tallboy Rxc Build

    Well, my intent was to get the middle build package of the Tallboy (SPXxc), but my LBS had a 10%-off sale this weekend and only had the entry-level Rxc build in stock, so I couldnít resist. I hadnít seen any photos of this build, so Iíve posted some here if anyone is interested. One curious exception to the basic build was that mine came with the RP23 instead of Monarch shock. Dunno if there are supply issues for the Monarch.





    My questionably accurate bathroom scale shows 28.2lbs with pedals, so the diet is about to begin, with an Easton EA90 bar and Thomson Masterpiece seatpost on the way, and Iíll change the cassette to XT and pedals to Eggbeaters. This should save a little over a pound. The hunt is also on for a lighter wheelset, and Iíll go tubeless. At 135lbs Iím hoping for a very light set suitable for XC/endurance racing as well as every day use. Iíll be curious as to how much weight new wheels and tubeless will shed. Iíve budgeted $750 for the wheelset, and suggestions are welcome.

    Initial thoughts on the ride: I wonít pretend that my appreciation of the Tallboy compared to other bikes is especially nuanced as I am coming from a 26Ē hardtail, so itís dramatically different in several ways. Iíve only put about 5 hours on it so far, but the first thought that comes to mind is ďeffortlessĒ. While you can feel the impact of the big wheels and bike length on steering (4Ē longer than my 26Ē), it still feels very agile. And the big wheels and suspension just gobble up the trail. Climbing and descending obstacles, pedaling through rock gardens, and the speed I can carry through all of it is pretty impressive. The only negatives Iíve experienced so far was some chainsuck (mucky conditions), occasional pedal strikes, and the stock bars being too wide for twisty wooded singletrack. Also, for a rider of my size (5í7Ē), the bars arenít low enough for me. Iíll swap to a steeper angled stem and flip it, but thereís risk of damaging the toptube during a crash as the bars wonít clear it. Iíll post further thoughts as I log more time on it, but for now Iím all grins.

    Cheers,
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    Wheelset for your weight with your budget I would go with stans 355 hubs american classic hubs, that wheelset is prolly 1550 grams, and pretty stiff. You could go with lighter rims even do to your weight like the crest rims at 370 grams but I like a little more durability. Hope that helps. My TB is currently at 23.6 pounds with nothing crazy as far as parts.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by red5jedi
    My Tallboy on it's first race - and a little crash.
    http://www.cyclingtrek.org/video/Coyote%20Classic.wmv
    Bit of a bump but 2:25 really put a smile on my face. Yeah baby! Thats probably the most enjoyable race video I've seen. Props!

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    Nearly done.
    Just need to cut the steerer and bleed the front brake (I have a feeling that Spencer may have spent some time squeezing the lever without a rotor in place).

    Build is:
    XL Tallboy frame with Santa Cruz seatclamp
    Fox F29 with taper steerer and FIT cartridge
    Cane Creek XXIX taper headset
    Thomson X4 stem
    KCNC SC Bones bar
    Formula K18 brakes with Straitline levers
    XTR shifters
    Jetblack lock on grips (waiting on ESI chunkies)
    XTR crankset (waiting on new outboard bearing Middleburns)
    XT front and XTR rear derailleur
    XTR pedals
    XT cassette (11-34)
    Silver Hope hubs laced to Stans Arch rims with DT Swiss Competition spokes
    Salsa Rasta skewers
    Thomson Elite seatpost with ti bolt kit.
    WTB Silverado saddle
    For those of you who are interested, saddle to bar drop is approx 2".


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    This baby's not mine, but I got to test ride it at the Santa Cruz Demo.

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    +1 Tallboy in Switzerland. Ready to rock the alps!





    XL, 27 lbs

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    Looks fantastic, adequate for the Alps.

    Now I need one delivered to Germany
    (although I need to save a little $ first)


    Greetings Znarf

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    Got this a few weeks ago and now have a few races and a lot of rides on it and couldn't be happier. Such a huge step up from my bendy old 26'er. The frame is great, the fork with the X-Loc is perfect, and the rest of the parts are pretty much flawless. I'm not any faster but it's a damn fun bike!!

    XL frame with RS Monarch
    RS Reba XX 120mm with X-Loc, tapered steerer and Maxle
    XX drivetrain with DoubleTap shifters (not the best for MTB but they work)
    Avid Elixr CR Carbon (203/160) with XX rear disc (bent the stock disc)
    Mavic C29SSMAX

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    Here is my new ride. Just finished building it on Friday, rode it Friday afternoon, and then raced it Saturday. I had just hosed it off before taking these pictures.
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    BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUTIFUL bikes!

    All of them.

    Rather racy setups!!

    Greetings Znarf

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    Quote Originally Posted by newskoolbiker
    Here is my new ride. Just finished building it on Friday, rode it Friday afternoon, and then raced it Saturday. I had just hosed it off before taking these pictures.
    Sweet ride!

    Is that a large frame? And a 100mm fork? The front looks pretty low.

    What's your saddle height, center of BB to top of saddle?

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    It's an XL with a 100mm Minute 29er fork. The saddle height is ~34" from the pedals to the top of the saddle with 175mm cranks.

    Quote Originally Posted by fleanutz
    Sweet ride!

    Is that a large frame? And a 100mm fork? The front looks pretty low.

    What's your saddle height, center of BB to top of saddle?

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    My New Tallboy Build

    Hi all,

    Thought I'd share, I'm pretty excited about this bike. I received my frame Friday and built this bike Saturday. I've ridden it only once so far but love the feel of it! I'll update my impressions after a longer ride or two.

    Specs:
    Santa Cruz Tallboy, large
    Fox F29 fork 120mm w/ 15mm QR & straight 1 1/8 steerer
    SRAM Elixr CR Carbon brakes w/160mm XX rotors
    SRAM PG-990 Cassette
    KMC X9SL Chain
    Truvativ Noir 3.3 Team GXP Cranks, 175mm
    SRAM X9 Front Derailleur
    ESI Racer's Edge Grips
    Easton EC90 Carbon Flat Handlebars
    Cane Creek Headset
    SRAM X0 Rear Derailleur
    Selle Italia SLC Gel Flow Saddle
    Thompson Elite Masterpiece Seatpost
    SRAM X0 Shifter
    Jagwire Switch Cables (Carbon look)
    Richey Stem WCS 100mm
    Stan's ZTR Crest Wheels
    Kenda Small Block 8 Tires (Tubeless using Stan's)
    Titec Bar Ends
    Eggbeater pedals
    2 Carbon water bottle brackets
    Weight: Without the pedals & bar ends = 23.78 lbs
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    I have a BLT2 and a Tallboy size L for testing in my summer vacations.

    The frame is a piece of art, the bike eat ups like one!! It pedals great and notice that is easier to maintain speed with less effort tahn on my BLT.

    My only complain is the low bottom bracket and the 100mm in the rear, but is a Cross bike so .... maybe a BLT 29" in the future!





















    A big thanks to Portuguese Santacruz dealer - PERNALONGA.

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    Nice looking ride!

    I rode my new Tallboy 19 miles today, loved it! I'm looking forward to getting in some rock gardens this coming weekend!

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    Here's mine!



    Orange XL Tallboy (5.6 lb frame weight with the seat post clamp, no headset)
    Fox RP23
    Fox F29 TALAS (taper, QR15, Kashima coat)
    Thomson Elite seat post
    Easton Monkeylite SL handlebars
    RaceFace Deus XC stem
    Oury lock-on grips
    Chris King/Arch/SuperComp wheels
    Avid Elixir CR brakes
    XT M760 crankset
    XT M770 shifters and front derailleur
    XTR M970 Shadow rear derailleur

    Comes in at 26.1 lbs with XT pedals on the bathroom scale today. My local shop is turning my old King 26" wheels into 29ers with Crest rims though; that plus lighter tires, non-lock on grips and a couple other things should bring it close to 25 lbs without going crazy on parts.

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    Nice Razor69 - thats a killer build, really night weight.

    What hubs did you get with the Crests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyP5
    Got this a few weeks ago and now have a few races and a lot of rides on it and couldn't be happier. Such a huge step up from my bendy old 26'er. The frame is great, the fork with the X-Loc is perfect, and the rest of the parts are pretty much flawless. I'm not any faster but it's a damn fun bike!!

    XL frame with RS Monarch
    RS Reba XX 120mm with X-Loc, tapered steerer and Maxle
    XX drivetrain with DoubleTap shifters (not the best for MTB but they work)
    Avid Elixr CR Carbon (203/160) with XX rear disc (bent the stock disc)
    Mavic C29SSMAX
    My car rack broke sending Tallboy #1 crashing onto the highway at 60mph, here's almost-all-new #2:

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    Oooooo......never gave much thought to having an orange front triangle and a black swingarm......hmmmmm.
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    Congrats to your bike!
    Did you have any issues with the standard QR?
    Is the wheel stiff enough or would you recommend a 15mm?

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    I have standard QR on both my bikes.
    Have tried standard, 9mm and 15mm.
    I can tell no difference between any of them.
    To be honest I think the talk of stiffness is all hype for XC.
    If you have a good quality wheel build and do up your QR properly it will be all you need.

    I weigh 85kg and am doing purely XC.

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    Thanks TR.
    Looking forward to purchase a Tallboy soon.. . and with standard QR. ..

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    I just built this up a couple of days ago. I still need to shorted the rear brake line. I think I am going to try a shorter stem and a riser bar on it. The frame is a size Large. I really like the ride of it so far...







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    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/14732217" width="650" height="400" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/14732217">Santacruz Tallboy</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1579498">Surfas</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    frame: Large Tallboy matte black, Fox RP23
    fork: 2011 Fox Talas 29 tapered 15mm
    wheels: Stan's Arch, Hope Pro IIs
    tires: Maxxis Crossmark non UST but tubeless with Stans
    headset: Chris King mixed tapered headset
    stem: Truvativ Team stem 100mm
    bar: Truvativ Noir World Cup Carbon riser bar
    grip: ODI Lock on grips twist shift length
    shifters: SRAM XO Twist Shift
    front der: Shimano XT
    rear der: SRAM XO
    cranks: Truvativ Noir 175mm
    brakes: Avid Elixer CR
    cables: Jagwire Switch carbon/silver
    seat post: Gravity dropper turbo (not in pics)
    saddle: Fizik Tundra
    peddles: Time ATAC xs
    skewer: Salsa
    bottle cage: Tacx Tao

    26.2 lbs. with Gravity Dropper and shim.




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    Clearly digital scales, like digital tire pressure gauges, are not very accurate
    Why are there so many threads about cheap ass bikes?

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    Yeah I'd have to agree. Mine is built up with full XTR and Edge Carbon wheels and it's heavier than half the XT builds here. Go figure. I guess the gravitational pull is somewhat less in other States.

    I love the bike though. I'm just not sold on the Fox shock and Fork, Shock feels pretty "dead" and I wish the fork F29 120mm was a little plusher. I'd be tempted to try Rock Shox next time, but that's just personal opinion.

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    Some nice eye candy here, can't wait to get mine and have the real taste of the candy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now
    Yeah I'd have to agree. Mine is built up with full XTR and Edge Carbon wheels and it's heavier than half the XT builds here. Go figure. I guess the gravitational pull is somewhat less in other States.

    I love the bike though. I'm just not sold on the Fox shock and Fork, Shock feels pretty "dead" and I wish the fork F29 120mm was a little plusher. I'd be tempted to try Rock Shox next time, but that's just personal opinion.
    My XL with X9, XTR cranks, some pretty heavy wheels (1980g set), tires (1650g f&r) and a 400g Boobar comes in at 26.9 and change on two scales. I checked my scale with a gram calibration weight and it was within a few g's of being 100% accurate. I think I can easily get close to 25 with a few changes.

    I went RS out back with a Reba up front - so far its been bliss - the rear eats up everything and I don't think the front end is completely broken in yet, but its very plush IMHO. I am running my Reba at 140 though...

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    This is the first time I've owned a Fox fork. I had a Reba for my last 29er. The fork didn't take long to dial in and I think it feels a lot better than the Reba. Not to mention it's much stiffer with the 15mm axle. I would definitely choose the Fox over the RS if I had to do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike Turner
    Clearly digital scales, like digital tire pressure gauges, are not very accurate
    I'm sure that's the most plausible explanation

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZipsBiker
    This is the first time I've owned a Fox fork. I had a Reba for my last 29er. The fork didn't take long to dial in and I think it feels a lot better than the Reba. Not to mention it's much stiffer with the 15mm axle. I would definitely choose the Fox over the RS if I had to do it again.
    Did you have a QR or the maxle? I don't find the 15mm to be any stiffer than a maxle Reba. And I get full travel, something no Fox air has ever done for me. To each their own though.

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