SC Tallboyc Component Kits

[DRILLINDK]

Longtime carbon Superfly rider here. However, I'm considering making the move from the Superfly to the Tallboy carbon due to a postponed arrival date from Trek.

I'm reviewing the SC TBc components kits on the Santa Cruz website, but it's kinda confusing. For the 32 Float 29 CTD Adjust FIT 120, it appears that they only offer a SRAM (I'm a SRAM guy) XX1 build kit with and options wheelset upgrade??? But, then I go to the Competitive Cyclist online website and can piece together a XX and/or an XO build.

Why doesn't SC offer more SRAM options, but another online retailer does? Sorry, just trying to wrap my hand around everthing. I'm leaning towards the Competive Cyclist XX build, but have never ridden XX1...sooooo....any info would be greatly appreciated!

[mtnbikej]

I am sure you looked at this:

Santa Cruz Bicycles TALLBOY CARBON

It varies from year to year......some years they don't offer Shimano kits....only SRAM. This year it is the other way around. Last year they offered more SRAM kits.

What you are seeing from Comp Cyclist is either an older kit/bike or maybe a custom that they put together.

[hillharman]

Also check out coloradocyclist.com if you want to do a custom build at a great price on a Tallboy carbon. Definitely go with the 120 mm fork.

[DRILLINDK]

Thanks for the replies, my head is really spinning now. I'm used to buying a Trek Superfly carbon and just riding it stock for the most part. Not having to really worry about piecing together a customized bike. I'm really liking the fact that I can build my bike from scratch on sites like Colorado Cyclist and Competitive Cyclist. I can get the components and wheelsets I want, right away, without having to spend a fortune swapping out parts and worry about selling used components.

Anyone have any example builds they have went with via online bike shops?

[DRILLINDK]

Just curious what your TBc weigh in at?

[hillharman]

I couldn't tell you. I've since moved all the parts over to a Tallboy LTc. My own build is an XT 3x10 drivetrain with XTR Shadow Plus RD, XT brakes, ENVE riser bars, Easton Haven stem, Kind Shock Lev 125mm dropper post, Fox Kashima CTD suspension, Chinese carbon rims laced to Chris King hubs.

I'd definitely think about XX1 if I had the money (and a compatible rear wheel).

[DRILLINDK]

I couldn't tell you. I've since moved all the parts over to a Tallboy LTc. My own build is an XT 3x10 drivetrain with XTR Shadow Plus RD, XT brakes, ENVE riser bars, Easton Haven stem, Kind Shock Lev 125mm dropper post, Fox Kashima CTD suspension, Chinese carbon rims laced to Chris King hubs.

I'd definitely think about XX1 if I had the money (and a compatible rear wheel).

What does your LTc weigh? Seriously considering an XX1 build, but don't think I can shell out $7400 + tax Santa Cruz lists it for. Do any online bike shops offer this build?

[BadHabit]

Just curious what your TBc weigh in at?

23.2 lbs for a 2011 Medium TBc with XX, 120 Talas, RP23, Crest rims and Syntace bits.

[DRILLINDK]

Thanks. I was hoping to get it under 25lbs with either an XX or XX1.

[TwoTone]

It's actually rather simple.

You have the stock kits from SC which any online retailer will have and then you have shops that get the frame and let you build it the way you want.

What you're seeing at CC is a custom kit they put together not one they are getting from SC.

I would suggest looking at Colorado Cyclist, they let you do a completly custom build for a reasonable price.

[DRILLINDK]

Thanks guys, much appreciated! So far, this is what I'm thinking:

Lg Tallboy Carbon
SRAM XX1 component group
Fox 32 Float 120mm
CK NothreadSet InSetI3
Shiano XTR Brakes w/ 160mm rotor

Hope Pro II Evo Hubs
Chineses carbon rims
DT Swiss Competition 14/15ga spokes
DR Swiss Alloy nipples
Hope XX1 142X12mm thru axle



Up for debate still:
Tire: Front-Racing Ron; Rear-Racing Ralph
Saddle: Douglas evolution saddle
Handlebar: Easton Haven Carbon riser bar
Seatpost: Niner RDO Carbon seatpost
Stem: Easton EC90 SL stem 10 degress 100mm


Any opinions?

[DRILLINDK]

23.2 lbs for a 2011 Medium TBc with XX, 120 Talas, RP23, Crest rims and Syntace bits.

That's pretty light! The lbs that's doing my custom build doesn't think I'm going to break below 25lbs with my large TBc build. See above for list of components. I'm shooting for low 24 lbs

[dirtdan]

Thanks guys, much appreciated! So far, this is what I'm thinking:

Lg Tallboy Carbon
SRAM XX1 component group
Fox 32 Float 120mm
CK NothreadSet InSetI3
Shiano XTR Brakes w/ 160mm rotor

Hope Pro II Evo Hubs
Chineses carbon rims
DT Swiss Competition 14/15ga spokes
DR Swiss Alloy nipples
Hope XX1 142X12mm thru axle



Up for debate still:
Tire: Front-Racing Ron; Rear-Racing Ralph
Saddle: Douglas evolution saddle
Handlebar: Easton Haven Carbon riser bar
Seatpost: Niner RDO Carbon seatpost
Stem: Easton EC90 SL stem 10 degress 100mm


Any opinions?

Yeah, F'n sweet.
Although I'd probably run a smaller stem. My LTc has a 70mm stem and it seems pretty nicely positioned for me. I'd have to do arm/chest measurements to have any relevance, but I'm 5'11" and ride a 56cm road frame if that helps. If you have another bike as a reference to compare some geometry on, you may want to check out effective top tube lengths between the two.

[BadHabit]

That's pretty light! The lbs that's doing my custom build doesn't think I'm going to break below 25lbs with my large TBc build. See above for list of components. I'm shooting for low 24 lbs

Medium 2011 TBc
120 Talas
RP23
Crest rims/hubs/9mm rear/15mm front
Raven 2.0 tires
XX drivetrain and brakes
KMC chain
Syntace F109 stem
Syntace Duraflite carbon bar
Syntace P6 seatpost
SC clamp
Fizik Aliante carbon saddle
ESI grips
Ti Frogs
King ti cage

weighed with a shop stand scale
Brakes noisy
Tires sketchy
Don't use the Talas often but it works

I think you'll be below 25.

[SoCal-Rider]

Thanks guys, much appreciated! So far, this is what I'm thinking:

Lg Tallboy Carbon
SRAM XX1 component group
Fox 32 Float 120mm
CK NothreadSet InSetI3
Shiano XTR Brakes w/ 160mm rotor

Hope Pro II Evo Hubs
Chineses carbon rims
DT Swiss Competition 14/15ga spokes
DR Swiss Alloy nipples
Hope XX1 142X12mm thru axle



Up for debate still:
Tire: Front-Racing Ron; Rear-Racing Ralph
Saddle: Douglas evolution saddle
Handlebar: Easton Haven Carbon riser bar
Seatpost: Niner RDO Carbon seatpost
Stem: Easton EC90 SL stem 10 degress 100mm


Any opinions?

You might want to go with a 180mm front brake rotor, depending on your weight. I ride at 190 lbs. I made the switch recently from 160 to 180mm and it made a difference. With the 160 it felt like I was having to pull too hard on the lever and that effected my modulation a bit. It only added about 30g...worth it for me. YMMV

Oh BTW nice build choices so far.

[DRILLINDK]

Thanks for the input.

[DRILLINDK]

Medium 2011 TBc
120 Talas
RP23
Crest rims/hubs/9mm rear/15mm front
Raven 2.0 tires
XX drivetrain and brakes
KMC chain
Syntace F109 stem
Syntace Duraflite carbon bar
Syntace P6 seatpost
SC clamp
Fizik Aliante carbon saddle
ESI grips
Ti Frogs
King ti cage

weighed with a shop stand scale
Brakes noisy
Tires sketchy
Don't use the Talas often but it works

I think you'll be below 25.

How do you like the Fizik aliante saddle? It one of the lightest ones on the market that still looks comfortable enough to ride.

[BadHabit]

How do you like the Fizik aliante saddle? It one of the lightest ones on the market that still looks comfortable enough to ride.

Very comfortable. I have several. They wear along the back edge.

I have an SLR Carbonio Flo (125 g) that I put on now and then to feel the lightness, but after a couple of rides on the SLR the Aliante is sweet relief.

[DRILLINDK]

Arch EX 29 Rear Custom Wheel
ARch EX 29 Front custom wheel
BB UNIT SRAM TV GXP ENG OUTBOARD PR 2011
BRAKE PART SHI DISC ROTOR RT86 160 6B
BRAKE DISC SHI BR-M985 BL985 KIT RR RESIN PAD
BRAKE DISC SHI BR-M985 BL985 PST KIT FTRESIN PAD
BRAKE PART SHIMANO DISC ADAPTER 160MM POST/STD REAR
CASSETTE SRAM XX1 11-SPEED 10-42T
CHAIN SRAM PCXX1 11-SPEED 118 LINKS
CRANKSET SRAM XX1 168Q 32T 175MM CARBON
ERGON GS1-L LEICHTBAU PRO RACING GRIPS: BLACK
FORK SUSPENSION FOX F120RLC DRCV E2 KASHIMA COATING BLACK
HEADSET PART WHEELS MANUF. SPACER CARBON 5MM 1-1/8IN 5/PACK
Hope Pro 2 EVO 12x42 End Caps
KING 1 1/8"-1.5" MIXED TAPERED HEADSET BLACK
LHT MASTERPIECE 30.9 X 350MM BLACK
PEDAL CRANK BROTHERS EGG BEATER 1 NATURAL STEEL
REAR DER SRAM XX1 LONG CAGE BLACK
Schwalbe Racing Ralph 29x2.25 SS pacestar
SCHWALBE NOBBY NIC HS411 29X2.35 EVO SS TUBELESS READY
SHIFT LEVER SRAM XX1 TRIGGER 11-SPEED BLACK REAR
Tallboy 1.1 L Carbon 13

So this is what I ended up going with. All XX1 components with XTR brakes. The saddle and stem are a loaner from my LBS. I'm going to swap a few stems and saddles to figure out what works best for me.

SADDLE BONTRAGER INFORM AFFINITY R 138 BLACK
STEM BONTRAGER RL 31.8MM 7 RISE 100MM BLACK

I'm considering either a Easton carbon stem with the Fizik aliante saddle. Eventually I'd like to go with some eggbeater 11 pedals, but I'm broke for now.

Total weight without pedals is 24.2lbs. Looking to get this under 24lbs with swapping the saddle and stem out.

[DRILLINDK]

Here's a pic:

[gfs69]

It is beautiful! Well done.

[Bmann_mtb]

So i am guessing for 2013 Fox only offers a talas in black and not a float 32 only in white?