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    Santa Cruz introduces new 27.5 Heckler


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    yikes, and the Blur XC & Blur LT are gone. 26 really is dead.

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    Yeah. Bikerumor writes:

    So whats left to 650B in their line-up? Just two of our favorite trail bikes the Nomad and Chameleon. The only other 26″ bikes in the stable are the V10 downhill bike, which just received a major update, and the dirt jump/pumptrack oriented Jackal. Since the Chameleon received a pretty major overhaul in November of last year, were really hoping for a new Nomad just in time for summer loving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markymark View Post
    yikes, and the Blur XC & Blur LT are gone. 26 really is dead.
    And the Superlight 26er

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    Quote Originally Posted by markymark View Post
    yikes, and the Blur XC & Blur LT are gone. 26 really is dead.
    They also removed the Superlight and moved the Tallboy LT back to the trailbike category.

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    Santa Cruz introduces new 27.5 Heckler-image.jpg

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    So I guess that's the remaining SC bike that some of the journos hinted was still to come after the Solo launch.

    The TB-LT back in the trail category means no TB TR. this year, I guess!

    Not only have the bikes all been re-categorised, but the kit options and pricing have changed. All of the red special kit prices are gone. The Bronson SPX Kit is now way more expensive than it was when the bike was released, for example. And there are now X0-1 kits listed.

    Given how quickly the web site seems to be changing these days, and how many mistakes have come and then been corrected, this could all change by Monday morning!

    I'm really beginning to wonder why they didn't just update and announce everything at the same time. Let people know exactly what their options were going to be. This slow dribble doesn't make much sense to me.

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    Glad to see the Heckler getting love, but I just got a 26" Heckler in Feb and would have been nice to know this was coming so I could have waited. Still, the RAM kit now cost $500 more which would have been out of my price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WasteMindu View Post
    Glad to see the Heckler getting love, but I just got a 26" Heckler in Feb and would have been nice to know this was coming so I could have waited. Still, the RAM kit now cost $500 more which would have been out of my price range.
    I just bought a Superlight 29 a couple months ago and I'm glad I did...I got the RXC kit with the Fox 120 front fork and list price was 2450, now the RXC with same fork is like 2900. Better brakes it looks like but not sure what else is better and no way I could afford 2900.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegweed View Post
    I just bought a Superlight 29 a couple months ago and I'm glad I did...I got the RXC kit with the Fox 120 front fork and list price was 2450, now the RXC with same fork is like 2900. Better brakes it looks like but not sure what else is better and no way I could afford 2900.
    Me and a buddy both bought new bikes and I really wanted to get something with 27.5, but I decided on Heckler with hopes to rebuild in a few years with 27.5. As the frame could always take 27.5, I would just have to get a new fork, I think.

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    BAM!

    Love that turquoise Heckler.

    How about building one with a 160mm Fox 36 and 26inch wheels?

    That'd be a super low bb single pivot monster. Only the longer stays stink

    I might just do that...

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    Prices went up across the board with 2014 build kits. The Bronson SPX kit is $233 more today and There are now XO-1 Kits!

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    i wonder how much longer theyll keep the TRc around... seems rather redundant with the Solo and i cant imagine theyll be selling too many TRcs now that customers have the option to buy a Solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehukatti View Post
    Yeah. Bikerumor writes:
    Chameleon isn't on the site anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Znarf View Post
    BAM!

    Love that Club Tropicana Heckler.

    How about building one with a 160mm Fox 36 and 26inch wheels?

    That'd be a super low bb single pivot monster. Only the longer stays stink

    I might just do that...
    Fixed, just because I cracked up at their name for the color.
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    Awesome! Now I own an antique!! Out of production = more valuable! (Right?!)
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    Right on!!!

    I think this is the coolest of the new models offered for several reasons. First, the Heckler is truly a legendary bike and was due for an update. I have always loved single pivot simplicity and durability thus the tradition continues. This geometry change for those who have not ridden a bike with it is the shiz. I rode a Kona Honzo last year that had the slack front end with a steep seat angle...it rips and I predicted that it would be on every AM/Enduro/Whatever-the-f*#k they are calling these bikes going forward. Nine months later, my predictions are validated.

    Second, the new Heckler runs the older shock length 8.5 X 2.5 standard. So for us old Nomad, Bullit, Heckler, Butcher, Nickel holdouts we can run whatever shock from our old bikes on it.

    Finally, Its a deal. You will not have to break the bank, get divorced or whatever to get in on the 650b Enduro thing.

    As it stands, I am thoroughly pleased with my Butcher and have zero intentions of replacing it anytime soon. However, this would be a worthy option if I opt not to shell out for the Bronson. It comes in a nice understated black too.
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    Nice!!! My buddy and I were just talking on how a 27.5 Heckler makes perfect sense and was wondering how long it would take them. I have been contemplating converting mine.

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    What are the specs on the build kits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
    What are the specs on the build kits?


    Should we hold your hand while we walk you to the website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123ski View Post
    Chameleon isn't on the site anymore
    It is now back

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    Just noticed that they adjusted the top tube length.

    Used to be 23.5/L and 24.5/XL

    Now 23/M. 24/L. 25/XL
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    Most likely so that you can run a 50-70mm stem comfortably. Also puts it closer to the length of the Nomad (and Bronson) which have alwasys felt longer than the Heckler/Butcher..etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123ski View Post
    Most likely so that you can run a 50-70mm stem comfortably. Also puts it closer to the length of the Nomad (and Bronson) which have alwasys felt longer than the Heckler/Butcher..etc.

    I think it is great......that was my one complaint when I had my Heckler. The Large was a little too short, but the XL felt a little too big. Now it looks like they got it just right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikej View Post
    I think it is great......that was my one complaint when I had my Heckler. The Large was a little too short, but the XL felt a little too big. Now it looks like they got it just right.
    I agree. I upgraded from Medium Heckler (which always felt too cramped with a 50mm stem) to a Medium Nomad, which felt just right with a 50mm stem.

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    no news about a superlight 27.5 with 125 travel? a monopivot in the trailride catalog?

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    I thought SC was very smart for "bronsoning" the heckler and offering a good option in the 650b AM category at an affordable pricepoint. However, I also think they're up in the night if they're going to pass off a DEORE equipped bike for almost 3k! Particularly when last years D kit model could be had for under 2k.

    Come on guys. How much did you spend on that freaking building?
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    But the DEORE stuff works great. The disc brakes are really, really good and it even has a clutch derailleur. Better than x.7 by far.

    X.7 gets upgraded shifters this year as well though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Znarf View Post
    But the DEORE stuff works great. The disc brakes are really, really good and it even has a clutch derailleur. Better than x.7 by far.

    X.7 gets upgraded shifters this year as well though...

    I'm sure the upcoming revised deore group will work well, but it's still deore. Unless competitor's bikes are comparably equipped in that pricepoint, it's going to impact an educated buyers decision.

    Overall, i think the the 27.5 heckson is going to be a great bike, just a bit under-equipped.
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    I'm actually a little sad at the turn they are heading. Dropping all 26 inch bikes, and having crazy prices just because they are 27inch? The Koolaid manufacturing is overflowing in SC headquarters...

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    Any word on a frame only? Price?

    I am perfectly happy with my Nickel for now, but if I ever move back to the mountains hawt dayum this would sweet!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmscheip View Post
    Any word on a frame only? Price?

    I am perfectly happy with my Nickel for now, but if I ever move back to the mountains hawt dayum this would sweet!!!
    Website says $1299.
    The cake is a lie.

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    Yowzers...must have missed that on their site. Hasn't that frame been $1049 for years now?

    Still a great deal compared to comparable frames I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmscheip View Post
    Yowzers...must have missed that on their site. Hasn't that frame been $1049 for years now?

    Still a great deal compared to comparable frames I suppose.
    I think it was less than $1100.00 before, but looks like that has changed. All in all, the frame is still a pretty good deal considering what you're getting. I would imagine they are still working some of the R&D costs through the heckler. Just last year it was "butchered" and now it has been "bronsoned".
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    Part of it might be to clear out the older inventory. Given the changes made, they need to sell the 26" frames and bikes. Few people will buy them if the new models are close to the same price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainbiker24 View Post
    Part of it might be to clear out the older inventory. Given the changes made, they need to sell the 26" frames and bikes. Few people will buy them if the new models are close to the same price.
    Fair idea, but they've got the V7 Hecklers on the VPLS right now for $550 so that should clear out a lot of their inventory.

    I still agree the Heckler is a helluva deal, just was bummed to see the $150 bump in price. Don't pay attention to me though, I am just an internet complainer that wishes I could be out riding my bike right now :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by daves4mtb View Post
    I'm kind of going back and forth between it, the Bronson, and the Turner Burner.
    I have my eyes on the Solo.

    I like my '12 SuperLight29 a lot, but it feels big even after a custom fitting.

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    Re: Santa Cruz introduces new 27.5 Heckler

    Quote Originally Posted by cmscheip View Post
    Fair idea, but they've got the V7 Hecklers on the VPLS right now for $550 so that should clear out a lot of their inventory.

    I still agree the Heckler is a helluva deal, just was bummed to see the $150 bump in price. Don't pay attention to me though, I am just an internet complainer that wishes I could be out riding my bike right now :P
    I don't see any V7 Hecklers on sale, only V6.1...

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    I think the $1299 includes a DT RWS hub.. From F.A.Q. on Santa Cruz site "The Heckler uses a 142x12 rear hub, and includes a DT RWS with the frame"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal380 View Post
    I think the $1299 includes a DT RWS hub.. From F.A.Q. on Santa Cruz site "The Heckler uses a 142x12 rear hub, and includes a DT RWS with the frame"
    I believe that stands for "rear wheel skewer" and does not include a hub.
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    Yeah, just the axle itself.

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    when are these going to be available? anyone ridden one yet?

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    Santa Cruz introduces new 27.5 Heckler

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    Cambria bike has them now available, Santa Cruz Heckler R AM 27.5 Kit (100127539) at CambriaBike.com
    The R AM kit is $3k and the D AM kit is $2.6k, I am debating frame or one the kits.
    But as far as I can see they do not list the fork model on the two builds.

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    The fork on the RAM kit is a RS Sektor Gold. IMO the Fox 34 fork in the next kit up is worth the extra $400.

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    got the frame last month,been ordering parts online since. took everything to my mechanic friend to put it together last night, when I found out I ordered wrong size tapered headset Will have to wait another week to ride, very excited anyway.

    edit: hopefully my bike mechanic assembly skills are better than my photo attaching skills but you get the idea
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    Cool, I just do not think that I am in the mood to build a bike right now.

    So I went to the lbs today to test the waters how much room to haggle there is and without asking he knocked already 10 % off the $3k model.

    Good for me that they did not have the right color in my size.


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    This makes me want to ride.
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    here we go again

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    Anyone been riding one yet? What do you think of the 439mm long chain stays? Longest of all the 150-160mm bikes I've been eyeing... Next closest is the Foes at 434, then a bunch at 432 and the lowest the Process at 425 (but with a crazy long wheelbase overall)

    The Norco Range seems the best balance 427 CS with 1149 WB... But I love the simplicity of the Heckler.
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