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    Protecting the lower VPP linkage

    My Bronson is already missing some paint on the non-drive side bottom pivot, i.e. the carbon bit of the rear triangle that rides below the BB.

    So, questions:
    1) Anyone got a good way to protect this? Seems tough without interfering with the suspension; helicopter tape-type solutions aren't so good there...

    2) Anyone ever had issues with a VPP bike failing at that point due to multiple hard impacts? I imagine SC recognizes it as a vulnerable area and would overbuild the hell out of it, put some kevlar in the layup etc.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who's thought about this, and a search turned up a couple custom options, but wondering what others have done...

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    Cytoe's downtube guard, but I don't know if he makes one for the Bronson yet, and 3m mastic tape for any other impact areas, check the TRc picture thread for pictures of this.
    Santa Cruz Blur TRc

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    Gorilla Guards

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    Protecting the lower VPP linkage

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    Protecting the lower VPP linkage-imageuploadedbytapatalk1371568362.038739.jpg


    ...and linkage was protected on my Tallboy.
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    Been there, done that... don't remember it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful Tomcat View Post
    Homemade? Looks like asphalt roofing shingles.
    Truck bed-liner?

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    1/8" ABS molded to fit Blur XC, Tall Boy etc. Doesn't get mud pushed under it like the "floater" and doesn't flap the BB nor does it create a moment at the water bottle rivnut. Great for those without water bottle mounts as well.

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    Where do you get those?

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    googling 'cytoe downtube protector' gives a few mtbr threads but no website for the product or places to buy it. anyone know the mysterious source for cytoe protectors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    googling 'cytoe downtube protector' gives a few mtbr threads but no website for the product or places to buy it. anyone know the mysterious source for cytoe protectors?
    Here's my current ad: Rock protection for Santa Cruz and Niner frames - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories
    Thanks!

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    @cytoe:

    I'm interested in one of these for my Blur LTc. There are no water bottle mounting holes on this frame though. However I think with some heavy duty velcro or 3M dual lock it could be affixed to the down tube just fine. What do you think?
    "Got everything you need?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    @cytoe:

    I'm interested in one of these for my Blur LTc. There are no water bottle mounting holes on this frame though. However I think with some heavy duty velcro or 3M dual lock it could be affixed to the down tube just fine. What do you think?
    I've had several customers use the TRc plate on the Blur LTc. I think they used zip ties. 3M dual lock or velcro heavy duty velcro would probably work too. I use 3M VHB tape to mount the Niner WFO plate (no water bottles either).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Where do you get those?
    You will have to search the bay for it in cycling. I think Santa cruz tall boy or link protector should bring it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyrdrms View Post
    You will have to search the bay for it in cycling. I think Santa cruz tall boy or link protector should bring it up.
    Found it! Any idea if it would fit a Nomad? But for the money I may just give it a go.

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    I think most of the linkages are the same or very similar. The only one I am unsure of are the newest I have seen on the Bronson. The grease fitting at the rear triangle attachment has been rotated compared to older models. My early 2013 Blur has the "non-rotated" style. The current guard has a dimple which sets over the grease fitting and is used as an anti-rotation point. Anyway, most likely it will work fine.

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    Bought one, thanks!

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    Got one the other day and put it on my BronsonC last night, thanks cytoe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyrdrms View Post
    1/8" ABS molded to fit Blur XC, Tall Boy etc. Doesn't get mud pushed under it like the "floater" and doesn't flap the BB nor does it create a moment at the water bottle rivnut. Great for those without water bottle mounts as well.
    wow...somehow I missed your subtle slam to my plates. I have not heard of mud being pushed under it. Moment at the water bottle rivnut? Really? I have not heard of any issues of rivnuts being pulled out. I've designed my plates to minimize slapping, but it can happen on hard hits. I guess I could try using a zip tie, but that would look tacky...and what happens when that zip tie is dragged over rock. Hmm...was that subtle?

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    Well, didn't exactly say it was your plate so evidently you know of your own design issues so put a quater in your asszz because you played yourself! Was that better? Don't want to be too subtle! Yep working on the zip tie issue but it is still a great option and no complaints yet just as yours. Next time I will be sure and really candy coat, beat around the bushes about your plates. Oh yeah, read the threads. I did see one person stating the rivenut had pulled out. Maybe is was there way of dissing you subtle like? And perhaps it wasn't even due to the plate? Yes, weight catilevered to a fixed point will create a moment about that point. Too much moment and a failure will happen. Did you know that another company was making a fit all plate? Perhaps I was talking about that. Hmmmm....No I really was talking about yours but glad you see the flaws in your design just like I see the flaws in mine. I'm sure you worked to take as many out as possible just like I do. It's called design iterations. I will continue to perfect mine just as you will. So......\../

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyrdrms View Post
    Well, didn't exactly say it was your plate so evidently you know of your own design issues so put a quater in your asszz because you played yourself! Was that better? Don't want to be too subtle! Yep working on the zip tie issue but it is still a great option and no complaints yet just as yours. Next time I will be sure and really candy coat, beat around the bushes about your plates. Oh yeah, read the threads. I did see one person stating the rivenut had pulled out. Maybe is was there way of dissing you subtle like? And perhaps it wasn't even due to the plate? Yes, weight catilevered to a fixed point will create a moment about that point. Too much moment and a failure will happen. Did you know that another company was making a fit all plate? Perhaps I was talking about that. Hmmmm....No I really was talking about yours but glad you see the flaws in your design just like I see the flaws in mine. I'm sure you worked to take as many out as possible just like I do. It's called design iterations. I will continue to perfect mine just as you will. So......\../
    Dang, I took the troll bait eh? Anyway, thanks for the long response.

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    Hey, how did cutting out the bolt holes in the built-in rock protector go? What tool did you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewBird View Post
    Hey, how did cutting out the bolt holes in the built-in rock protector go? What tool did you use?
    You can use a Exacto knife. The rubber is thin and soft and cuts easily.

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    cytoe is the Ultra the only version you make for the Bronson C? By the way I've bought 2 other plates from you in the past. One for my Rip 9 and another for my Tallboy. I've never had any issues whatsoever, Grade A product here. All my buddies here in Vegas have used them as well. We ride some rough sh!t here in Bootleg Canyon and they have lasted with no problem.

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    cytoe design has worked great on my TB LTC and my friend's TB. I wish I had installed it from the get go. I only bought it after sustaining a nice gash in the carbon area where the bearings go through. I was running an MRP bash guard as well, so that didn't protect the linkage. I did have to sand it down a bit on the drive side since it was butting against the guard. It installed without the sanding, but the alignment with the downtube was askew.

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