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    Post your TRAIL bullits...

    Id REALLY like to see some pics of people whose bullits are set up for trail riding. ie. dual rings at least, no Monster Ts or Shivers, but just good old fashioned trail bikes. How much does yours weigh?

    Im really looking for some options to save weight, yet maintain strength.

    Here's mine.
    Ive since swapped to sram shifters and mechs and also Hone cranks.



    I have no idea what it weighs.

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    Here's my old one. Have since swapped to a Heckler.

    Wheels are a good place to look to save weight, and maybe an air shock, but it'll always be a compromise between weight & strength unless you're willing to spend a big chunk of money.
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    My SC Bullit . Use it for trailriding, NS, some light DH and street/dirt-riding.
    Love this bike. It's just awesome!

    Set up: Medium transred Bullit frame, Marzocchi Z150 fork, Kenda Nevegal 2,5"tires (awesome),
    Raceface-bar and seatpost. Honecranks with Blackspire bash and chainrings. SRAM triggers with XTR derailleurs.

    Plan new rear wheel (sun ringle abbah/mtx) and new lock-on grips (Yeti hardcore)



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    I'm in the process of getting mine together. When it's finished, I'll throw up some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoTreadOnMe
    Id REALLY like to see some pics of people whose bullits are set up for trail riding. ie. dual rings at least, no Monster Ts or Shivers, but just good old fashioned trail bikes. How much does yours weigh?

    Im really looking for some options to save weight, yet maintain strength.

    Here's mine.
    Ive since swapped to sram shifters and mechs and also Hone cranks.

    I have no idea what it weighs.
    lighter post/seat/stem/bar. that would likely be the easiest/cheapest.

    what are you running for wheels? could save a bit there, most likely.

    air shock or ti spring, but those are spendy options. though if you go for an air shock, sell the coil setup to help pay for it.

    go to a lighter cassette when the current one dies (or get an alu lockring to replace the steel stock on)

    sell off the old stuff to help offset the cost.
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    I' ve no idea how much it weights. To make my ride more challenging I've changed my double ring to e-13 STS with 34T and Fox 36 on the picture has been swaped with 888, yet I still use it as a trail bike :-)

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    Just took my new Bullit on a quick trail ride. The high seat is offensive to the freerider in me, but it sure does pedal better than I expected.

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    As always, here's a pair.

    The red one weighs 32.6lbs. and the silver one is 33lbs. Good air shocks, decently light 6" travel forks, relatively light wheels (CrossMax XL), and lighter tires run tubeless (Weirwolf 2.5 Race--750g) can really bring the weight of a big hit bike down quite a bit without really sacrificing reliability for aggressive trail with some smaller jumps and drops thrown in.
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    Mine weighs 38 lbs as pictured. When I raced it cross country last summer, I had it down to 32 just by swapping out the tires and tubes (Tioga Factory DH 2.5s and Intense DH tubes vs. Panaracer FireXC 2.3s and Specialized turbo tubes). Even in heavy trim, it really pedals well. I can usually keep up with guys on much lighter and shorter travel bikes plus I don't have to worry about jumping off of stuff. And in light trim, it was good enough for a 2nd place in Sport!

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    Dang tom, 38lb with a 4lb fork Are you sure it is that heavy?

    Here is mine. Last I weighed it at just over 37lb. Tubless tires help a bit to shave grams. The specialized enduro 2.4 tubeless only weigh about 900g (in contrast to 1200-1400g for maxxis, michelin, or tioga tires of simillar size). Fork is a custom 2005 Z1, with TAS so 5-6" adjustable travel. It can handle all day epics or dh runs at northstar without changing a thing. Lighter tires are best if I have to run it in an xc type of race

    Since photo was snapped I have gone to a longer travel Gravity Dropper, added a DRS chainguide, and swapped from the 90mm stem to a 70mm. I think I will swap out to a 66 light for this season since I pretty much only ride this bike on more aggressive rides.

    Man, I gotta do something about that fricken green swingarm now that the holidays are over
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    Quote Originally Posted by dscot420
    Dang tom, 38lb with a 4lb fork Are you sure it is that heavy?
    You're right. I just reweighed it and came up with 34 lbs and change. There must've been a gremlin holding on the last time I weighed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom11919
    You're right. I just reweighed it and came up with 34 lbs and change. There must've been a gremlin holding on the last time I weighed it.
    Kind of figured that was a tad on the porky side for that light of a front end. Heavy forks and big dh tires/tubes seam to be the main culprits sending bullits towards the 40lb mark. I think 34-38lb makes a fun and trail worthy bullit. Any more weight and they are too cumbersome to ride on more epic rides. Any lighter and they lose their dh capabilities and stability in the rough stuff.

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    Ahh, this looks a bit better. Via photochop
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    Guys, I am LOVING these trail bullits. You're giving me some great ideas. Ive already made some major changes to mine since this thread started and as soon as UPS, USPS and FEDEX drop off my next shipments, Ill post up some newer pics. This is where she stands right now.

    Anyone perhaps got an extra thompson 28.6 post they'd like to get rid of? I can do paypal. Here is the latest shot of my velo.


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    question for the pike guys- how does the head angle feel with that fork? I am considering picking up a bullit frame, but dont have the coin for a frame/fork combo and already have a pike on my Chameleon I was considering using. Thanks for the input...

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    I think the Pike is a great fit personally. Lots of folks run a standard 5inch fork on their bullits with no complaints. An extra bit of travel sure doesnt hurt, I can tell you that much. Its a bit slacker. If you already have a pike, you know its a great fork. It will work fine as a trail fork, however, if you're planning on doing some nastier stuff, a 66 or z150 may be the better option in the long run.

    Im staying with the pike tho, as Im going for as light/solid a combo as I can find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoTreadOnMe
    Guys, I am LOVING these trail bullits. You're giving me some great ideas. Ive already made some major changes to mine since this thread started and as soon as UPS, USPS and FEDEX drop off my next shipments, Ill post up some newer pics. This is where she stands right now.

    Anyone perhaps got an extra thompson 28.6 post they'd like to get rid of? I can do paypal. Here is the latest shot of my velo.

    I've got one that I've trimmed about 2 inches off of. If it works for you, I'll sell it to you. It was a mistake because the post endded up being too short for long climbs so I had to get a different post. I bought a Diabolus post and its just awesome. I'll post a pic of my "trail Bullit" soon with diabolus post and Boxxer Ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry
    I've got one that I've trimmed about 2 inches off of. If it works for you, I'll sell it to you. It was a mistake because the post endded up being too short for long climbs so I had to get a different post. I bought a Diabolus post and its just awesome. I'll post a pic of my "trail Bullit" soon with diabolus post and Boxxer Ride.
    What is the overall length of the post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoTreadOnMe
    What is the overall length of the post?
    I'll check when I get home around 5. It was originally a 330mm post with about 50mm cut off but like I said, I'll measure it when I get home.
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    keg

    Quote Originally Posted by NoTreadOnMe

    What's in (or was in) that keg???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry
    I'll check when I get home around 5. It was originally a 330mm post with about 50mm cut off but like I said, I'll measure it when I get home.
    Just measured the post. It's 290mm.
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    What is the i2i and stroke for DHX air.

    I would like to put a DHX air on mine. What is the i2i and stroke. How does the DHX air perform with the Bullit? I would like to lighten mine up. Lighter wheels and DHX air. I think that I could go from 36# to 33.5#. That would make a very versatile bike.

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    8.5 X 2.5

    Quote Originally Posted by BubbaTime
    I would like to put a DHX air on mine. What is the i2i and stroke. How does the DHX air perform with the Bullit? I would like to lighten mine up. Lighter wheels and DHX air. I think that I could go from 36# to 33.5#. That would make a very versatile bike.
    That silver '03 Bullit in the pic above has one on it, and I did a writeup on the shock and bike on this forum and the DH/FR forum. It works extremely well...IMHO, better than the DHX coil I tried on it. For wheels, look at the CrossMax XLs. Amazingly light and strong and expensive. Several of us are running them around here, and they have all held up well under rocky abuse with tubeless tires.

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    Thanks !!

    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    That silver '03 Bullit in the pic above has one on it, and I did a writeup on the shock and bike on this forum and the DH/FR forum. It works extremely well...IMHO, better than the DHX coil I tried on it. For wheels, look at the CrossMax XLs. Amazingly light and strong and expensive. Several of us are running them around here, and they have all held up well under rocky abuse with tubeless tires.

    Thanks !! I will look up your review.

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    Another one

    Okay, here's my interpretation:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry
    Just measured the post. It's 290mm.
    Nah, not quite long enough for me either. Thanks for checking tho. If you run across another, let me know.

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    wow,

    I think that one's my favorite one yet, except my own, of course.Very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Bert
    What's in (or was in) that keg???

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    the rubber bullit. not the real thing, but what the hell, i'll butt my nose in here again. trail/light fr-dh duty. love it!

    i've compared it side by side to two bullets of similar size, and the geometry and pivot placement looks pretty damn similar.

    i'd not hesitate to buy the real thing, after being on this copy for about a year.

    36.5# as is, about 38 with full DH tires on board.
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    the rubber bullit. not the real thing, but what the hell, i'll butt my nose in here again. trail/light fr-dh duty. love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude
    Boxxer Ride?

    yep; me likey so far. very nice to drop it down to a little over 5" to climb, and then back up to 7" for the rest. i'm thinking the 07 version will have some sort of dual air/u-turn hybrid, ala the Pike Air U-turn stuff. that, with Motion Control damping would rock!

    i'm waiting on the 06 Motion Control internals to replace the 05 stuff (which SRAM/RS assured me is a doable swap) and seems like it'll be an easy job, at least form the pdf. service documents i've got downloaded. i've got a Pike on my hardtail that i love, and like the idea of having the same external adjustability in this fork.

    the damper side as is works much better for me with about 30ml more oil in it than the service docs/oil level stuff suggested. works fine for me as is now, but i still want the MC feature of the 06. and it'll run me far less $$$ than buying a new fork, even if i sold this one.
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    I was looking at an 05 on ebay for $369. I know it was there first run with that fork but so far, all I've heard are raves and no rants. Sick bike ya got there.

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    Here's mine...I keep on thinking of selling it for the Nomad but still I'm not ready to part with it yet...


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude
    I was looking at an 05 on ebay for $369. I know it was there first run with that fork but so far, all I've heard are raves and no rants. Sick bike ya got there.
    that is a super good deal. the 05 isn't a bad fork, the 06 is just better. Maxle feature, and Motion Control damping. i like the Maxle on my Pike, but don't really need it with this bike.

    if you get one of those cheap e-bay ones, then pop the 06 MoCo stuff into it, you've got an 06, other than the Maxle part. the price quote on the parts needed i've got from the guy who is ordering them for me is very good. i'll still have spent way less on it than a new 06.

    just waiting for the damn parts to all get in stock and so on.

    as is though, the fork feels very good. especially after an oil change, and adding that little bit of extra oil.

    for a bike that you are going to be climbing up a bunch with, before descending, this fork rocks.
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    Here's mine. Final version this time.

    Anyone want to guess what it weighs? I dont have a scale, need to go to a shop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NoTreadOnMe
    Final version this time.
    For how long?

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    trail

    good little bike.

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    OK, here's mine

    Here is my recently updated Bullit. Fresh powder and wheels.
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    What length of stem are you guys using? I'm looking for a shorter stem on mine, and found a deal on a 55mm stem. I'm about 5'4", on a Medium framed Bullit.

    Thanks! The bikes look great!

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    Here's my Trail Bullit, finally What a sweet ride. Err, maybe "Here's my Bullit on a Trail" instead
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    RockStar's Trail Bullit....
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbc
    What length of stem are you guys using? I'm looking for a shorter stem on mine, and found a deal on a 55mm stem. I'm about 5'4", on a Medium framed Bullit.

    Thanks! The bikes look great!

    I'm 5'4" w/ a 50mm on a Small

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    Finally got a pic of my "trail Bullit". 37lbs featherweight. Boxxer Ride, Vanilla RC with big hit revalve, Laserdisc DH wheelset with crap anodization of rear rim. I have a lot of fun on this bike.
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    Cool bike ^

    Orange rocks. Best SCB color out there IMO.

    Just haven't give up on my scratched black yet and got a PC job. Might do the chameleon Orange.

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    Bullit

    Here is mine....
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    Finally got the forks on, but I still got a few upgrades to make (brakes, wheels).

    Flat black paint NEVER gets clean, even with scrubbing. It looked so cool when in was fresh.

    I think I stumbled onto something pretty sweet with the truck bed liner on the rear triangle. When I got the frame, it had bad chainslap wear and lots of dings-- I didn't have the time or money to get a real paintjob so I went for it black hammerite and a ten dollar can of bed liner. I couldn't get the frame apart so I left the "guts" the original trans red and thought it came out pretty sweet.

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    * Frame Size & Color:Large red/black
    * Fork:Marzocchi All Mounatain 1 150mm
    * Brakes:Nashbar tektro OH YEAH!
    * Cranks:Fsa v-drive extreme (isis)
    * Front Derailleur:xt
    * Rear Derailleur:sram x-9
    * Pedals:sun-ringle zu-zu
    * Stem:ringle
    * Handlebar:titec hellbent low rise
    * Seatpost:thompson
    * Saddle:wtb
    * Bottom Bracket:fsa
    * Cassette:sram pg 970(I think)
    * Headset:cane creek s-2
    * Grips:ritchey
    * Front Tire:velociraptor 2.1
    * Front Rim:mavic 117
    * Front Hub/Skewer:shim deore
    * Rear Tire:velociraptor 2.1
    * Rear Rim:mav 117
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:deore
    * Weight:?

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    Now that's true ghetto-style. I gotta admit that I don't think I've ever seen bar ends on a Bullit...but hey...it's a Bullit...a do-anything bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    Now that's true ghetto-style. I gotta admit that I don't think I've ever seen bar ends on a Bullit...but hey...it's a Bullit...a do-anything bike.

    I really wanted some on my old bike, butI don't know how much I'll actually use them on this one.

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    Here's a better picture of me & my Trail Bullit.
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    same

    Same bike w/ a couple updates: yellow 823 on Hadley F&R.

    Two notes of interest: 1) yellow isn't that harsh in person 2) bike is dirty (just doesn't show)

    Next one will be good action shot.
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