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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBR_Saris View Post
    Who wants to take bets that the Chameleon comes back as a plus sized model?
    That's what was intimated to me... a new model Chameleon that could switch between 27.5+ and 29 wheel sizes. Take it with a huge grain of salt... this is just the word of one bike shop guy, based on what he said he saw on next years price list.

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    Anybody running a 120mm fork on their '15-'16 Chameleon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Surf View Post
    Anybody running a 120mm fork on their '15-'16 Chameleon?
    That's what I'd like to do with my '11 instead of the 140mm on there at the moment.

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    Nope. 130mm on my '14 though.

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    Picked up a Chameleon in the D config as I couldn't find a frame anywhere. I've always had my eye on the Chameleon and finally pulled the trigger when competitive cyclist lowered their prices. I will be running mine single speed as soon as the dropouts get here and the wheels are built. Anyway, noticed the sticker on my frame for size also states that the bike is meant for 29" wheels. Obviously a mistake, but has anyone else had the wrong sticker placed on their frame? Think this happed at the factory or the dealer? Post your lizards. (Chameleon)-img_20160917_095128.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    That's what I'd like to do with my '11 instead of the 140mm on there at the moment.
    Also would like to move to a lighter 1 1/8 fork for mine. Hard to find a non-taper.

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    2016 Santa Cruz Chameleon R Build Large. Took her on her maiden voyage today:


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    This is my first 650b (non+). Bike is super fun. It wheelies and manuals super easy. Plus there's nothing like standing up and mashing on a hardtail. The Rock Shox Sector Gold fork 130mm did well. One thing that surprised me is the Shimano SLX push/pull shifter also works like a push/push (something I found out by accident as I am used to Sram). I am halfway through a 1x10 conversion as I'm still waiting for my Goatlink and Sunrace 11-42 to arrive. With the Race Face 32nw and 11-36 cassette I don't know if I need more gearing. It climbed well in the 32-36, so I'm gonna have to think about that one. After flipping the large stem spacer to the top, the cockpit felt good. I like the size of the stock Race Face stem (70mm), so I'll probably keep it for a while. The stock bars are nice and wide, but I'd like a little more rise. I plan on getting carbon bars, so I'll get 'em with more rise. Only thing I think it really needs is a dropper post. Stock tires are Maxxis Minion DHRII 2.3 (F) and Maxxis Ardent 2.25 (R). They came stock tubeless with Stans added, and came with two little bottles of Stans. Initial Impression is it's a great bike. Dropper Post and Carbon Bars I'm gonna get immediately, with a Chromag Ranger or Deity Cavity stem and Hope Brakes on the not-so distant future list.

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    Carbon bars don't provide a ton of weight gain, and they can splinter into a million pieces from a hard impact. I'd honestly stick with aluminum, just for durability and safety. Or, at least be sure to stick with a reputable brand.

    Really nice bike you have!

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    I disagree with sticking the to aluminum comment. As you noted if you stick with a reputable brand, and clamp accordingly with a torque wrench and all you should be fine. Greg Minnar and many other pro downhill riders ride on a level that most of us will never reach with carbon bars, that are 200mm+ wide with complete confidence.

    NOW, that's not to say there aren't any incidents of carbon bars cracking, or breaking but I'd say it's so nominal that you should not even worry if you stick with a reputable company. Easton, Enve, Sram, just a name a few.

    You'll probably break a bone in your body from hard impact crash before you break carbon. At least it's happened to me.

    Now if you're gonna buy a Enve knock off from China that doesn't even look like anything on the market, then I'd be worried.

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    There's a YouTube clip of a guy standing with both feet in the clamp area of a cheap Chinese mtb bar with the grips on bricks. He's bouncing on it and when it breaks, says "and that's why you don't buy cheap Chinese stuff".

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    Went with aluminum bars to keep the cost down, and added a Chromag ranger 60mm:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Surf View Post
    Went with aluminum bars to keep the cost down, and added a Chromag ranger 60mm:

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    Hi, I was reading this thread for a while now and finally registered today!

    I pulled yesterday the trigger on a Chameleon D kit (large) after looking for a mountain bike for quite a while. By the way, the R kit seems to be not available anymore online.

    Will check back with some pictures and also probably some questions...mainly about the dropper and might also upgrade the components over time.

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    Nice after work ride today. Fresh rain. Cloud cover and cool weather. Finally summer is over!!

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    By the way, which frame size do you have? I am 5'10" and have a 2016 L. According to the SC size chart, I was right between M and L.

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    Post your lizards. (Chameleon)-img_0974.jpgPost your lizards. (Chameleon)-img_0973.jpg

    Built it up myself, I went for a more XC oriented set up, very fast on climbs and tons of fun on downhills.

    Rockshox Reba Solo Air SL 120mm
    DT Swiss Spline One XR-1501 Wheelset
    Schwalbe Nobby Nic tyres (front and back)
    Shimano XT 1x11 drive train
    Blackspire's Snaggletooth Oval Chainring 34T
    Truvativ Noir Carbon seat post and handle bars

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIDEALL View Post
    Nice after work ride today. Fresh rain. Cloud cover and cool weather. Finally summer is over!!
    Granite Bay, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondezee View Post
    Granite Bay, huh?
    You got it!!

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    Here's my chameleon i just finished building. Frame from ebay plus extra parts from when i upgraded my SOLO V1.. in road mode/roller trainer mode. my wife wants me to buy a road bike so i can ride with her when she goes road biking. i built this instead.. with schwalbe big one 27.5 semi slick tires.
    Post your lizards. (Chameleon)-b9122d2d-7b8d-4adf-8f93-3119c731f920.jpg
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    trail setup... pardon the ultra cool pedals. It has been replaced.
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    Fork is 150mm

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    I just got a Chameleon D spec! Can't wait to ride! First time on a mountain bike. Gonna have to read more threads on bike maintenance. Having disc brakes is new for me as well.

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    Congratulations to your new bike. I got the same model some moth ago and really am enjoying it. Ride on!

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    found 1...

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    Found one... after a bit of searching... can't wait to build it up. I have a 160/130 TALAS 34.

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    Finally

    Lusted after the 2015 Chameleon for a long time, had an order in with a local dealer but it was delayed and fell through. When the 2016 models were released I started getting more desperate and turned to Craigslist and shipped a frame over to Australia from there.

    Built up from scratch, love riding the single speed and just added the 150mm dropper to complete my ride.

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    New 2017 Santa Cruz Chameleon

    I was considering pulling the trigger on a Highball when my cousin who works in a LBS informed me that Santa Cruz is releasing a 2017 Chameleon, he said he may have hands on a demo come March. Not much else info, apparently they are keeping this under wraps until it is officially released. I called Santa Cruz directly and the guy I spoke to was pretty mum (and spoke mostly in code) but after I explained my dilemma he did say if such a bike was being released it would definitely be released before summer, and also they are not making it in carbon, only aluminum (just what I'm looking for) Apparently it will be released in 29 and 27.5. If anyone else gets any more info please feel free to post! I am torn on whether to get the Highball and set it up with a 120mm fork, or wait till possibly April/ May to see if I like all the specs and price on the new Chameleon. I have heard great things and I mostly ride trails but they are fairly well groomed and I like the characteristics of the Highball, but I have a feeling the Chameleon will be better suited for me. Luckily the weather here is pretty bad right now and most local trails are closed so the wait might not kill me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarrior View Post
    I was considering pulling the trigger on a Highball when my cousin who works in a LBS informed me that Santa Cruz is releasing a 2017 Chameleon, he said he may have hands on a demo come March. Not much else info, apparently they are keeping this under wraps until it is officially released. I called Santa Cruz directly and the guy I spoke to was pretty mum (and spoke mostly in code) but after I explained my dilemma he did say if such a bike was being released it would definitely be released before summer, and also they are not making it in carbon, only aluminum (just what I'm looking for) Apparently it will be released in 29 and 27.5. If anyone else gets any more info please feel free to post! I am torn on whether to get the Highball and set it up with a 120mm fork, or wait till possibly April/ May to see if I like all the specs and price on the new Chameleon. I have heard great things and I mostly ride trails but they are fairly well groomed and I like the characteristics of the Highball, but I have a feeling the Chameleon will be better suited for me. Luckily the weather here is pretty bad right now and most local trails are closed so the wait might not kill me...
    thats awesome. im saving up for a new bike now and wanted a Chameleon but its been pulled from their site for sometime now

    thanks for posting!!

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    Built it up myself, I went for a more XC oriented set up, very fast on climbs and tons of fun on downhills.

    Rockshox Reba Solo Air SL 120mm
    DT Swiss Spline One XR-1501 Wheelset
    Schwalbe Nobby Nic tyres (front and back)
    Shimano XT 1x11 drive train
    Blackspire's Snaggletooth Oval Chainring 34T
    Truvativ Noir Carbon seat post and handle bars
    Post your lizards. (Chameleon)-img_1285.jpg

    Winter build:

    MRP Rock Solid 490 Carbon Fork
    A Class VED6 Front Wheel
    Hand built Rear Wheel with A Class Hub, DT Swiss M442 Rim
    Ice Spiker Pro Studded Tires

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    ^ cool!

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    Post your lizards. (Chameleon)-anole_on_ss.jpg

    Well, people do often call them chameleons because they can change color from brown to green.
    2014 Santa Cruz Superlight 29
    2005 Jamis Dragon
    2003 Jamis Dakota XC converted to single speed

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    Gnarly- thanks for posting! I hear that the official launch date from Santa Cruz will be March 15th.

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    Getting closer...
    Just built up some wheels today.

    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
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    - White Industries 'The ONE' crankset on Phil Wood bottom bracket
    + Deore cranks with AB 32t oval ring on Shimano external bearing BB, XTR race pedals
    - Front brake Avid Juicy Ultimate - 185mm rotor
    + SRAM DB5 lever, Guide caliper, 180mm rotor
    - Rear brake Hayes Nine - 160mm rotor
    + SRAM DB5 lever and caliper, 160mm rotor
    + SRAM X0 shifters running the dropper and fork lockout
    - Mavic 823 rim laced to 10mm bolt-thru Paul Word Singlespeed Rear Disc Hub
    + Stan's Flow EX on Novatech cassette hub
    - Mavic 325 rim laced to sealed cartridge bearing hub
    + Stan's Flow EX on Novatech hub
    + Ardent 2.4" front, Ardent Race 2.35" rear
    - WTB Rocket saddle, Thompson Elite seatpost
    + Fizik Aliante saddle, Specialized Command Post Blacklite
    - Race Face Ride stem bolted to Atlas bars
    + Slammed Truvative 60mm stem with Easton Havoc carbon 750mm bars
    +ESI Chunky grips
    -+TOGS to come

    12.3kg

    About the same as my Kona Unit 29'er running Fasttraks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    12.3kg

    About the same as my Kona Unit 29'er running Fasttraks.
    Oops, almost exactly 1kg heavier than the Unit...

    But...
    After getting some 27mm tape and tubeless stems today...Post your lizards. (Chameleon)-20170327_204521.jpg

    11.97kg

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    Just adjusting the ebb after the ride today. Used a bit of carbon paste around the ebb and was tightening up the bolt and it snapped
    Ebb is toast. No chance of getting the bolt out.

    So. What ebb should I be looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Ebb is toast. No chance of getting the bolt out.
    Ok, so after a bit of deliberation and guestimation, I punched the barrel out as it looked like the bit of bolt in it was close to flush both sides.

    Phew! It was.

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    Back in with a new bolt, copper-slip and 10Nm.

    A Bushnell may be on it's way soon though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Ok, so after a bit of deliberation and guestimation, I punched the barrel out as it looked like the bit of bolt in it was close to flush both sides.

    Phew! It was.

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    Back in with a new bolt, copper-slip and 10Nm.

    A Bushnell may be on it's way soon though...
    whats that bolt for? im lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by nauc View Post
    whats that bolt for? im lost
    It's the bolt that pulls the wedge in to tighten up the eccentric bottom bracket.

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    Is this still relevant?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilikemtb999 View Post
    Is this still relevant?
    Very tidy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilikemtb999 View Post
    Is this still relevant?

    id ride it! lol

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    Anybody know where I can get a 2017 29 R1 Large online that ships? Can't find them anywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by wh11 View Post
    Anybody know where I can get a 2017 29 R1 Large online that ships? Can't find them anywhere
    According to Santa Cruz website, the only online retailers for them is,
    Colorado cyclist
    Competitive cyclist
    Cambria bike

    Did you try those three?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuenstock View Post
    According to Santa Cruz website, the only online retailers for them is,
    Colorado cyclist
    Competitive cyclist
    Cambria bike

    Did you try those three?
    Yup but the only large spec was the D. Been calling places all morning and found a large R1 at a LBS though!!! They're holding it for me until I get off work

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    On that same note has anyone seen a 27+R1 build for sale anywhere near PA? Everywhere seems to be sold out..
    All those online retailers are sold out...

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    Word on the street is that demand was much higher than expected and new bikes will be MY18

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    I'd been having some trouble with the chain popping off when back pedaling on the 42t after the 1x10 conversion. I was using the stock XT 10sp rear der. that spec'd on my '16 R build, and added the Sun 11-42 10sp cassette, goatlink and Race Face 32t NW.

    Today I added an 11sp Deore XT der., 11sp chain and moved the spacer on the BB from driveside to non driveside. This got me about 4 rotations back peddling instead of about 1/2 a rotation with the previous setup. I took note as to which tooth the chain started to jump on, then marked it with a Sharpie. There were three teeth where it would consistently start to jump. I took my large needle nose and applied a little pressure to slightly bend the cog at each mark. This seems to have done it. Now it can be back peddled on the 42 without any chain jump.

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    Word at my home is that demand is so high that some xxxxxx broke into my garage and stole my 2016 Lizard!

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