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    Post your Butchers & Nickels!

    Let's see these sexy beasts!

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    Butcher R AM w/ Fox Float 32 in the front




    And here's the mutilator with Mt Tamalpais in the background- sun glare kinda missed up the pic


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    Very Nice!
    I'm on the 4 week(only 3 left) wait list for mine. Pics will follow.

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    Looks great!

    I'm still waiting for my white Butcher frame w/RP23 shock. I was told 3 weeks to get the frame from SC, 2 more days and it will be a month wait so far.

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    damn flickr is blocked at work! i want to see!!!

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    2011 Santa Cruz Butcher

    Here's my new Butcher;

    Med Frame w/ Fox RP23
    Fox36 Talas RLC 160mm Taper
    Mavic Crossmax SX Wheelset
    Truvativ Stylo OCT 170mm 24-36T Crank
    E.13 TurboCharger Bashguard
    XO Shifters & Rr. Der.
    XT Ft. Der & Cassette
    Avid Elixir R SL Brakes w/ XX 185mm Rotors
    Specialized S-Works Eskar 2.3 Tubeless Tires
    Chris King Taper Headset
    Easton MonkeyLite XC Low Rise Bars
    Thomson 70mm Stem / 0 Offset Seatpost
    WTB Silverado Seat
    Crank Bros. Acid pedals
    Santa Cruz Peaty Lock-On grips

    Complete Weight: 29 lbs

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    Sweet looking ride Angelbcel. I'm waiting for a white medium, good to see a pic of one. How about a ride report, how does it compare to your old bike?

    Enjoy the ride

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    hoping to see a Lime Green one........

    Just sold my L Heckler and always thought I could of done with a M as I have short legs!

    Hopefully going to get a Lime Green after Christmas as have a baby coming and have lots to buy!

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    Is it really possible that only 2 riders have received thier Butcher or Nickel bikes yet? Is SC waiting for summer to end?

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    Very nice rides guys. Only a couple of pics for a thread a week old couldn't mean many are out there yet.
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    maybe they're all too busy out riding...
    hold my beer...

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    I don't think there are that many out there either.
    Ive been waiting for mine for 5 weeks now.
    Paid for it in full 2 weeks ago hoping that that would magically get it here faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utahgeoff
    I don't think there are that many out there either.
    Ive been waiting for mine for 5 weeks now.
    Paid for it in full 2 weeks ago hoping that that would magically get it here faster.
    I imagine you'll be quite happy once you hit the trails. Can't comment on the Nickel, but the I swear they gave the Butcher it's name because it carves up trails. This bike is like a slingshot coming out of turns. Be sure to give us a trail report once you're bike comes in! What color did you order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haus Boss
    Be sure to give us a trail report once you're bike comes in! What color did you order?

    Any possibility of a ride report? What bike did you ride before?, to compare the Butcher too. I'm switching from a VPP bike to the new APP Butcher. And hopefully doing so before summer ends.

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    Hey Haus, tell us how your Butcher is going mate. You intial review two weeks ago was a little tainted by the heat and a light head, if I remember correctly. Have you had a good run on it now, what's your opinion, what are the strengths that you can see so far...., give us something to drool over.

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    Just got back from a nice 10 mile ride today. Let me tell you man, I LOVE THIS BIKE. I find myself going down technical terrain so much faster than I could have imagined before. The butcher totally carves up technical fire roads and trails alike. I haven't hucked it off any 4' + jumps/drops just yet, but I've ridden down some really gnarley rock gardens, over nasty roots, and washed out trails pretty damn fast and the butcher just eats it all up like it's an appetizer. Climbing can be a challenge on steeper ascents, but that's a given with the bike's geometry. I've also been riding with flats since I day 1 on the Butcher. I plan on throwing my clipless pedals on sometime soon and I have a feeling this is gonna make a big difference when tackling some of those 25 + degree ascents and more technical s/t. Also, I'd prefer to ride my h/t stumpjumper when riding really narrow trails less than 18" in width. I was on a couple today on a really steep hillside. Because of the slack head tube angle, the bike goes where ever you point it- even with the slightest movement/adjustment. Not so good on the super narrow stuff, but I found it's awesome when trying to make quick corrections when traveling at speed. When you hit anything with a nice downslope, the Butcher feels like a slingshot. This is especially true coming out of corners. Just a little bit of physical exertion and the bike really takes off. I have the bike setup for a really plush feel right now and I've bottomed it out a few times, BUT, you don't even know that you've bottomed out. The rear suspension is super plush pretty much all the way through the shock stroke. And like others have pointed out- it's pretty damn stiff. I haven't felt the slightest lateral flex in the bike and I weigh around 190lb. We'll see what happens when I throw some heavier stuff at it if I can make it up to Northstar this summer.

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    Thanks for the ride report. I've only ridden a Butcher @ a demo day in Santa Barbara, and in that 1 hour ride fell in love with the bike.

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    Awesome Haus, thanks mate
    It sounds like a very capable machine, if you try and stay with a Butcher in the gnarly steep, you might just end up as minced meat..

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    ...so when is SC gonna come out with the 4" travel APP 29er?

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    anyone got any Nickel ride reports or pics??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner518
    anyone got any Nickel ride reports or pics??
    not yet

    mine arrives late summer

    be patient arctic slalom ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haus Boss
    I imagine you'll be quite happy once you hit the trails. Can't comment on the Nickel, but the I swear they gave the Butcher it's name because it carves up trails. This bike is like a slingshot coming out of turns. Be sure to give us a trail report once you're bike comes in! What color did you order?
    I ordered a black D AM. (dang budget)
    Before buying I was able to ride a Butcher and a Nickel at a Santa Cruz Demo. Now I'm stuck waitingfor that feeling again.
    How did you manage to get yours so quickly Haus?

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    I live in Northern California The bike shops that carry SCruz round these parts sell more than 2-3 SC bikes per year. I'm sure SCruz wants to give bike shops moving larger volume priority.

    Also, I had originally ordered by Butcher in chocolate. I called in 3weeks after my order to see if they had any news and was told the Chocolates were on delay since they didn't have enough orders, but they had black in stock (at the time). I decided this was a minor trade-off, and I might still be waiting for my bike to ship if I stuck with the choco!

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    Picked up my bike at my LBS tonight. Took it for a quick spin around the block jumping off everything I could find. Even went over the bars once so it's officially broken in!

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    anyone got weight of a small nickel. alsways interesting to get the real world weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utahgeoff
    Picked up my bike at my LBS tonight. Took it for a quick spin around the block jumping off everything I could find. Even went over the bars once so it's officially broken in!
    Sweet! What size ,color, build kit? maybe post a pic,please for those who are still patiently waiting for ours.

    Thanks

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    Just finished (sorta) the build on my medium Nickel; got a 15QR kashima talas rlc with a rp23 in the back. The parts kit is a mix of 3 generations of XT/XTR, and some pretty stout wheels I laced up personally with XT high flange (Boat anchor!) hubs, 14 gauge spokes, and DT ex400 hoops. Still figuring out what stem and seatpost works best, so no final weight but it was a few c-hairs over 29 pounds with a maverick speedball post and race face diabolus stem. Hoping to bring it down closer to 28 lbs by not using spare AM/DH parts...
    Anyways with the insane build disclaimer out of the way, I must say that this bike is really superb. It pedals and climbs like a blur when the fork is in 120mm mode, and slackens out nicely for rough ground like a nomad in when in 150mm mode. The frame is stiff, so it is pretty confidence inspiring, and encourages more agressive riding than 125mm of rear travel would suggest. Even with 10mm more travel in the front than recommended, it still rides fine, and is a great bike to have a travel adjust fork to alter the geometry to suit the trail.
    Overall fit and finish is good too, the head tube was cleanly and evenly machined and almost mirror smooth on the inside, the bottom bracket shell had good clean threads, and the decals are so clean that they look like fine, hand-painted china. There are a few tiny drips and runs on the powder coat, for example a little wart on the rear IS brake mounts, but nothing that cannot be corrected or that is too noticeable.
    Looking forward to spending more time riding the Nickel and getting it dialed in, as it's a bit unconventional in a lot of ways. I think it will work for a lot of different types of riding, similar to how the Blur 4x and Specialized Pitch do, but with some modernized features like a tapered headtube, angular contact bearings, and creative options on cable routing.
    I'll see if I can find anything I don't like about the bike, but so far it looks like Santa Cruz has knocked another one out of the park!

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    Quote Originally Posted by overtorqued_nut
    Just finished (sorta) the build on my medium Nickel; got a 15QR kashima talas rlc with a rp23 in the back. The parts kit is a mix of 3 generations of XT/XTR, and some pretty stout wheels I laced up personally with XT high flange (Boat anchor!) hubs, 14 gauge spokes, and DT ex400 hoops. Still figuring out what stem and seatpost works best, so no final weight but it was a few c-hairs over 29 pounds with a maverick speedball post and race face diabolus stem. Hoping to bring it down closer to 28 lbs by not using spare AM/DH parts...
    Anyways with the insane build disclaimer out of the way, I must say that this bike is really superb. It pedals and climbs like a blur when the fork is in 120mm mode, and slackens out nicely for rough ground like a nomad in when in 150mm mode. The frame is stiff, so it is pretty confidence inspiring, and encourages more agressive riding than 125mm of rear travel would suggest. Even with 10mm more travel in the front than recommended, it still rides fine, and is a great bike to have a travel adjust fork to alter the geometry to suit the trail.
    Overall fit and finish is good too, the head tube was cleanly and evenly machined and almost mirror smooth on the inside, the bottom bracket shell had good clean threads, and the decals are so clean that they look like fine, hand-painted china. There are a few tiny drips and runs on the powder coat, for example a little wart on the rear IS brake mounts, but nothing that cannot be corrected or that is too noticeable.
    Looking forward to spending more time riding the Nickel and getting it dialed in, as it's a bit unconventional in a lot of ways. I think it will work for a lot of different types of riding, similar to how the Blur 4x and Specialized Pitch do, but with some modernized features like a tapered headtube, angular contact bearings, and creative options on cable routing.
    I'll see if I can find anything I don't like about the bike, but so far it looks like Santa Cruz has knocked another one out of the park!

    Nice lyrics, but post some pics plz :P

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    Thanks for the reports guys, more pics please.

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    Large Black Butcher D AM Kit
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    Finally got a crane rented to lift my frame into my truck. Definitely not a bike that will ever be able to make it up any kind of hill. Estimated build weight is somewhere around 42,000lbs.


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    Ooooh, our first Nickel. Can't wait to see what you build it with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitek79
    Finally got a crane rented to lift my frame into my truck. Definitely not a bike that will ever be able to make it up any kind of hill. Estimated build weight is somewhere around 42,000lbs.

    ?

    is the frame really so heavy? 7.37lbs or 3kg with shock in medium

    i have a blur lt2 and i think the frame in L has the same weight ...

    the fork is a good choice
    stiff as hell (!) and very light

    i have it on my rize

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    No, it's not heavy at all, but if you've seen any of the other threads on this bike, there are plenty of people whining about how heavy the frame is. I'm going to have around a 26lb build, and it's going to be badass. I'm super stoked on this bike.

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    Too bad about that fork choice (Thor). You're likely gonna regret that one.

    RockShox or Fox, thats it. And for good reason.
    Stuff.

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    Just a Butcher frame with RP23 rear shock. I'm waiting on the steerer tube spacers, since I have an 1 1/8 steerer on my Talas 150mm. Bicycle World in Kingman Arizona ordered the frame, and is swapping most of the parts from my Kona to the Butcher. Seat post is smaller than my Kona Dawg, so I'm getting a Thompson Elite (30.9mm) Cane Creek xx headset is here already.








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    I forgot to mention, my Butcher frame RP23 weighed exactly 7.31 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillwilly
    I forgot to mention, my Butcher frame RP23 weighed exactly 7.31 pounds.
    framesize medium, i guess?

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    yes, frame size medium. Should have the completed bike pictures up by Wednesday or Thursday I hope. I'm guessing the complete bike will weigh 31 pounds when it's finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillwilly
    yes, frame size medium. Should have the completed bike pictures up by Wednesday or Thursday I hope. I'm guessing the complete bike will weigh 31 pounds when it's finished.
    Please post up your thoughts on comparison between the Butcher and your old DAWG, Id be very interested to here how it is over bumpy terrain and braking. Congrats on the new ride!

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    I'll be picking up my completed bike, after work on Saturday. My LBS had to order a derailler for the new frame, the one on my dawg wouldn't work on the Butcher. Also the brake hoses were a little short, so new ones were ordered. Everything else is good to go, ride review and pictures of the complete bike will be posted next week some time.

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    Hi, I was thinking to the Nickel as a short travel "slack 'n' low" aggressive bike (i.e. Banshee Spitfire). It seems pretty heavy, so I guess it should stand some abuse (with "abuse" I don't mean 6' drops!). Do you know if a 150mm Revelation would void the warranty? With this fork it should have angles similar to the Butcher but with shorter CS and longer top-tube. Another questions: why no raw finish for Nickel and Butcher? At least, the bike builder on SC website doesn't show it as an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greb
    Hi, I was thinking to the Nickel as a short travel "slack 'n' low" aggressive bike (i.e. Banshee Spitfire). It seems pretty heavy, so I guess it should stand some abuse (with "abuse" I don't mean 6' drops!). Do you know if a 150mm Revelation would void the warranty? With this fork it should have angles similar to the Butcher but with shorter CS and longer top-tube. Another questions: why no raw finish for Nickel and Butcher? At least, the bike builder on SC website doesn't show it as an option.


    From the SC FAQ section on the Nickel:

    What fork sizes are recommended for the Nickel?


    120mm-140mm. The forks we offer are all 130mm, which is kind of the sweet spot, but they can all be reduced to 120mm or extended to 140mm by removing or installing a travel spacer.

    So yes, it would more than likely void the warranty.
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    Lookin' sweet guys! We've got a green Butcher coming into the shop in the next few weeks to build up as a bit of a shop/demo bike. Can't wait to thrash out a few rides on it. I'll post up some snaps when it arrives, for those curious about the green.

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    the night pictures came out like crap, hope to get more up soon. Pedals are black, not gold, ha ha The desert is Monolith Garden Kingman Arizona
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/52941571@N04/4884817458/" title="butcher 003 by flapjacksRfun, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4884817458_9b27d0d47a_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="butcher 003" /></a>
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/52941571@N04/4884205975/" title="butcher 002 by flapjacksRfun, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4884205975_9cd810249b_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="butcher 002" /></a>
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/52941571@N04/4884216435/" title="021 by flapjacksRfun, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4884216435_8246b3ab73_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="021" /></a>
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/52941571@N04/4884205895/" title="butcher 001 by flapjacksRfun, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4884205895_59582c2003_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="butcher 001" /></a>
    edit: my bike weighs 31 pounds

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    A few more pics

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/52941571@N04/4885289791/" title="whitebutcher 001 by flapjacksRfun, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4885289791_7a7e503d00_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="whitebutcher 001" /></a>
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/52941571@N04/4885289897/" title="whitebutcher 002 by flapjacksRfun, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4095/4885289897_485bb69685_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="whitebutcher 002" /></a>
    All done, I'm going to trade my fork and get a Fox 36 with a tapered steerer tube, with my tax return later this year. By then I'll be upgrading the rear cassette and get a new chain.

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    New Butcher

    Built my butcher finally, most parts are swapped from my other bike. I did just purchase a Revelation Team dual air tapered fork to try. Haven't installed it yet.


    Here's the current build:

    Medium Santa Cruz butcher
    Marzocchi all mtn. SL 1 160mm fork ( to be replaced w/ Rockshox Revelation team Dual air tapered 150mm)
    Easton 31.8 oversize carbon riser bar
    Easton stem 90mm
    Easton Havoc seatpost (to be replaced w/ Joplin 4)
    Hope M4 brakes 180mm front -160mm rear
    Bontrager rhythm Elite tubeless wheelset
    Kenda 2.3 Nevegals
    XTR crank
    Specialized Rival SL seat
    ODI ruffian lock-ons
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    butcher frame chocolate

    my new butcher frame size large, was afread of the color but it's really nice!

    http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/a...evogel/but.jpg

    tomorrow pics complete bike

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    Nice bikes! I like all the colors SC offers, I just wanted a white frame, because white can be seen from a great distance in the desert. Is 160mm too much fork length for the Butcher, or no? Thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropmachine.com
    Too bad about that fork choice (Thor). You're likely gonna regret that one.

    RockShox or Fox, thats it. And for good reason.
    I like black instead of white. Your point is?

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